But but LL will cripple you. But but if you go over 12cm you will be a cripple

[AustrianMogger]

Yea idk what this austrian guy is on. The anime girl pfp kind of gives the mental illness away. I just want to respond since what he's suggesting is dangerous and absurd.

your a nigger learn to read or log of this forum you grey

Yeah obviously

Obviously not, one is a naturally occurring risk free process that affects the whole body, not only the legs, the other a response to an artificial fracture. It's not the same mechanism

You won't even be able to run most likely and in some cases walk. Your movements will be impaired. And then there is obviously the risk of nerve damage like you said and I'm sure many others as well, like your bones not healing properly

This is pure cope. Why would you not be able to run if your bones are fused? Maybe not as fast yeah but not able at all? no.

Yeah you definitely know more about LL than me, I never had issues with height so I never even looked into it, so it's good that you replied with a more detailed explanation.

Even then I don't think you need to know much about LL to understand that a 20 or especially 30 cm increase is absurd and not sustainable for someone who is done growing.

You are low iq.

I really dont want to be mean to each other, we just have two different views. If you see nerve pain as possible, then you surely can see that motor function is also at risk. I would say that a 7cm increase in one surgery is reaching. 4 cm per surgery should be the max imo.

People do 8cm as a standard on femur.
I only did 6cm with mine cause i will do 1 more on femur and one more on tibia, 18cm total increase.
I never had nerve pain.
I have only heard of some cases who have had it and that was because they had a existing condition.

Really hoped someone with such a high rep would be more serious. What are your goals in LL?

I did LL, what did you do?

 

[Peco]

your a nigger learn to read or log of this forum you grey

This is pure cope. Why would you not be able to run if your bones are fused? Maybe not as fast yeah but not able at all? no.

You are low iq.

People do 8cm as a standard on femur.
I only did 6cm with mine cause i will do 1 more on femur and one more on tibia, 18cm total increase.
I never had nerve pain.
I have only heard of some cases who have had it and that was because they had a existing condition.

I did LL, what did you do?

Sounds like you are trying to self convince yourself that things will go well for you after a further increase. This is coping, not being realistic about the obvious health risks of something like this

 

[AustrianMogger]

Sounds like you are trying to self convince yourself that things will go well for you after a further increase. This is coping, not being realistic about the obvious health risks of something like this

Yeah true.
Whatever makes you happy.
At this point I dont wanna argue further with greys and guys with below nigger iq

 

[TheEndTimesAreHere]

This you?
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I dont even wanna respond to All this rubish you disgusting grey but you polute the forum with your low iq so i have too.
Again I am not talking about 30cm on one bone in one setting.
However if you legnthen your femur by lets say 7cm. You will lengthen for about 3 months, maybe 2.5. Then you consolidate. If you do certain supplements, use exogen and a HBOT you can fully consolidate in 1 month and walk unassisted by month 4.
If you are a subhuman this will extend to month 6.
If you are in a wheelchair during LL you have choosen a 1. Bad surgeon, 2. You are a fat fuck or 3. Your bone canal is as big as that of a child.
If you are lean you can easily use a walker + crutches.
I for myself never really used the wheelchair much besides going to the surgeon for check ups.
At home i uses crutches or a walker in my bath.
The p 2.2 can withstand using a crutch or walkers easily.
With Pmax you can even walk unassisted so no wheelchair for your ass.
So for lengthening 30cm you would need to do that 3 times.
You lengthen your femurs by 6cm and tibias by 4cm.
Rebreak and retract for the other 2 times.
Would take about 4 months each to heal.
Total of about 12 months.
Sure 12 months without walking in 3 years is not easy but then again you get 30cm.

The 30cm were an extreme example something your tiny brain cant comprehend since you still dont even know what nerves are.
I think you shouldnt do LL as you dont even understand the concept.
Realistically with a 7cm increase if you use pmax in either tibia or femur you wont really see any structural damage or at worst minor.

Can you be a pro athleat after lengtening 20cm in 2x 6cm femur, 4cm tibia? No.
Do you need that in your life?
No.
You will be fine and do Running, jogging, contact sports, climbing at a decent level.

As for the motor function loss this can only happen if your surgeon cuts your nerves.
I have never ever heard of someone getting paralised during lengthening phase.
Also this can be AVOIDED by staying at below 1.5mm a day femur or 1mm tibia (idealy 1mm femur, 0.75mm tibia).

femur lengthening is the preferance.

This you?
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I dont even wanna respond to All this rubish you disgusting grey but you polute the forum with your low iq so i have too.
Again I am not talking about 30cm on one bone in one setting.
However if you legnthen your femur by lets say 7cm. You will lengthen for about 3 months, maybe 2.5. Then you consolidate. If you do certain supplements, use exogen and a HBOT you can fully consolidate in 1 month and walk unassisted by month 4.
If you are a subhuman this will extend to month 6.
If you are in a wheelchair during LL you have choosen a 1. Bad surgeon, 2. You are a fat fuck or 3. Your bone canal is as big as that of a child.
If you are lean you can easily use a walker + crutches.
I for myself never really used the wheelchair much besides going to the surgeon for check ups.
At home i uses crutches or a walker in my bath.
The p 2.2 can withstand using a crutch or walkers easily.
With Pmax you can even walk unassisted so no wheelchair for your ass.
So for lengthening 30cm you would need to do that 3 times.
You lengthen your femurs by 6cm and tibias by 4cm.
Rebreak and retract for the other 2 times.
Would take about 4 months each to heal.
Total of about 12 months.
Sure 12 months without walking in 3 years is not easy but then again you get 30cm.

The 30cm were an extreme example something your tiny brain cant comprehend since you still dont even know what nerves are.
I think you shouldnt do LL as you dont even understand the concept.
Realistically with a 7cm increase if you use pmax in either tibia or femur you wont really see any structural damage or at worst minor.

Can you be a pro athleat after lengtening 20cm in 2x 6cm femur, 4cm tibia? No.
Do you need that in your life?
No.
You will be fine and do Running, jogging, contact sports, climbing at a decent level.

As for the motor function loss this can only happen if your surgeon cuts your nerves.
I have never ever heard of someone getting paralised during lengthening phase.
Also this can be AVOIDED by staying at below 1.5mm a day femur or 1mm tibia (idealy 1mm femur, 0.75mm tibia).

I'm just giving my honest thoughts... I do hope you're right, but my understanding of LL is just different I guess.

I'm right now talking with a doctor about femur lengthening btw.

with 1mm a day the nerver can barely keep up. The new soft tissue is also less elastic and will need a slower pace. This is also since a lot of the new tissue already is scar tissue. The nerve also will not be of the quality of someone that naturally has that length.

I've been going off my own knowledge up to this part, I quickly asked claude and gemini what their thoughts were (of course those arent on the level of an actual doctor) and their answers were congruent with me. I do concede that their claims became a lot less strong when presenting your arguments and telling them that of course it isnt all stretching.

 

[AustrianMogger]

femur lengthening is the preferance.

I'm just giving my honest thoughts... I do hope you're right, but my understanding of LL is just different I guess.

I'm right now talking with a doctor about femur lengthening btw.

with 1mm a day the nerver can barely keep up. The new soft tissue is also less elastic and will need a slower pace. This is also since a lot of the new tissue already is scar tissue. The nerve also will not be of the quality of someone that naturally has that length.

I've been going off my own knowledge up to this part, I quickly asked claude and gemini what their thoughts were (of course those arent on the level of an actual doctor) and their answers were congruent with me. I do concede that their claims became a lot less strong when presenting your arguments and telling them that of course it isnt all stretching.

At this point whatever man.
There are many caes and just look up what they do with dwarfs.
I myself felt how the tissue normalised. At the end of lenghtening i had wide legs due to not getting a itb release (only do that above 6cm)
Now my legs are compelty normal 6 months after surgerys. I can run and jump again.
On the LL discord there have been man guys doing even 8cm femur and 7cm tibia back to back yet they still recovered decently.
When i get my other double LL in 2028 (6.3cm tibia, 5.7cm femur) I do expect my recovery to go similary.
20cm has also been done multiple times in 3 operations without Problem but i would do it in 2 osteotomies per bone or 4 operations.

This is my last post on the subject. Go ahead and do your LL, aim for 5-6cm and piss off.
Idk which LL surgeon you are tlaking too but most are very conservative since they want you get back to 100%

 

[TheEndTimesAreHere]

At this point whatever man.
There are many caes and just look up what they do with dwarfs.
I myself felt how the tissue normalised. At the end of lenghtening i had wide legs due to not getting a itb release (only do that above 6cm)
Now my legs are compelty normal 6 months after surgerys. I can run and jump again.
On the LL discord there have been man guys doing even 8cm femur and 7cm tibia back to back yet they still recovered decently.
When i get my other double LL in 2028 (6.3cm tibia, 5.7cm femur) I do expect my recovery to go similary.
20cm has also been done multiple times in 3 operations without Problem but i would do it in 2 osteotomies per bone or 4 operations.

This is my last post on the subject. Go ahead and do your LL, aim for 5-6cm and piss off.
Idk which LL surgeon you are tlaking too but most are very conservative since they want you get back to 100%

I also have to go study for my prob exam, cheers!