Can Bimax + Implant Achieve This Morph?

[PubertyMaxxer]

This is how 20mm bsso amd 6mm lf1 looks






Now would you say tgis morph is realistically achievable

 

[Greeicy]

That whore has the worst glonial angle I have ever seen in my life.

 

[Deleted member 4991]

Yes that looks achievable.

 

[Dude420]

Stop using bimax to correct overbite/underbite as a reference for people that have a good bite to begin with, you can't achieve the same transformation.

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Stop using bimax to correct overbite/underbite as a reference for people that have a good bite to begin with, you can't achieve the same transformation.

What reference should i use? Could you pm me your before after pics of your jaw surgery?

 

[ScramFranklin]

I'm going to assume that a large portion of the 20mm BSSO is due to the natural advancement of the mandible that happens when CCW is done (swings upward, giving more forward growth). Excellent result though.

 

[reptiles]

I'm going to assume that a large portion of the 20mm BSSO is due to the natural advancement of the mandible that happens when CCW is done (swings upward, giving more forward growth). Excellent result though.

I just realizes if this is 20 mm of bone growth couldnt you combine this with genioplasticty plus imdo.


Then you could get up to 4.1 cm of jaw growth which sounds excessive if you have a really short like mine it seems fully worth

 

[ScramFranklin]

I just realizes if this is 20 mm of bone growth couldnt you combine this with genioplasticty plus imdo.


Then you could get up to 4.1 cm of jaw growth which sounds excessive if you have a really short like mine it seems fully worth

4.1 cm would most likely be excessive, and idk if it's possible, even if being combined with IMDO. You probably don't need 4 cm. Smarter guys than myself did not have great opinions on IMDO on jawsurgeryforums. Just google IMDO and jawsurgeryforums and read some of the threads. Kavan is a very intelligent and knowledgeable user there (don't PM him). I know you have recession based upon your posts and comments, but it is likely you just need jaw surgery with the appropriate movements/rotations, maybe combined with genio if your chin is also recessed.

Jaw surgery combined with genio is common... I have never heard of someone doing IMDO, then jaw surgery, and I don't know how realistic it would be.

 

[Lars2210]

U can stop day-dreaming now

 

[reptiles]

4.1 cm would most likely be excessive, and idk if it's possible, even if being combined with IMDO. You probably don't need 4 cm. Smarter guys than myself did not have great opinions on IMDO on jawsurgeryforums. Just google IMDO and jawsurgeryforums and read some of the threads. Kavan is a very intelligent and knowledgeable user there (don't PM him). I know you have recession based upon your posts and comments, but it is likely you just need jaw surgery with the appropriate movements/rotations, maybe combined with genio if your chin is also recessed.

Jaw surgery combined with genio is common... I have never heard of someone doing IMDO, then jaw surgery, and I don't know how realistic it would be.

The surgery could help me hard my maxilla region is the worst part of my face.

Seems. Like it would ascend me hard ive got decent eye area my biggest issue is maxilla and a short mandible

 

[Deleted member 1849]

That whore has the worst glonial angle I have ever seen in my life.

how to improve gonial angle? I feel my jaw is lacking there.

 

[Greeicy]

how to improve gonial angle? I feel my jaw is lacking there.

Jaw fillers or implants.

 

[Deleted member 1849]

Jaw fillers or implants.
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could bimax help?

 

[Greeicy]

could bimax help?

No. There’s a distraction osteogenesis that fixes the glonial angle but I have to search for the exact name. Just get fillers or implants.

 

[Deleted member 1849]

No. There’s a distraction osteogenesis that fixes the glonial angle but I have to search for the exact name. Just get fillers or implants.

ramus implants with eppley huh? I need em

 

[Greeicy]

ramus implants with eppley huh? I need em

No such thing as ramus implants JFL. I think the term you’re looking for is custom jaw implants.

 

[curryslayerordeath]

4.1 cm would most likely be excessive, and idk if it's possible, even if being combined with IMDO. You probably don't need 4 cm. Smarter guys than myself did not have great opinions on IMDO on jawsurgeryforums. Just google IMDO and jawsurgeryforums and read some of the threads. Kavan is a very intelligent and knowledgeable user there (don't PM him). I know you have recession based upon your posts and comments, but it is likely you just need jaw surgery with the appropriate movements/rotations, maybe combined with genio if your chin is also recessed.

Jaw surgery combined with genio is common... I have never heard of someone doing IMDO, then jaw surgery, and I don't know how realistic it would be.

He is among the lowest intelligence members of this forum and there's practically no point explaining this to him (has been attempted numerous times). Honestly, I would like to see Kavan's opinion on his retarded rambling but he missed the registration deadline to that forum .

 

[StolenDays]

He is among the lowest intelligence members of this forum and there's practically no point explaining this to him (has been attempted numerous times). Honestly, I would like to see Kavan's opinion on his retarded rambling but he missed the registration deadline to that forum .

I will lend him my acc tbh tbh ngl

 

[curryslayerordeath]

I will lend him my acc tbh tbh ngl

pls do so reading the back and forth between him and some of the users there on monobloc would be cagefuel

 

[StolenDays]

pls do so reading the back and forth between him and some of the users there on monobloc would be cagefuel

I will just copy paste his posts instead and assume his identity

I don't need advice from them anyways
But I need to fix my PC first

 

[curryslayerordeath]

I will just copy paste his posts instead and assume his identity

I don't need advice from them anyways
But I need to fix my PC first

you are not skilled enough to truly assume his identity. @reptiles is a creature of vast intelligence and creativity. some filthy incel like u will never be able to truly argue the true benefits of "forward growth of the entire fucking face" or "ultrasupergigaterabimax" to some low iq surgerycels.

 

[Patient A]

No. There’s a distraction osteogenesis that fixes the glonial angle but I have to search for the exact name. Just get fillers or implants.

What is the exact name?

 

[Greeicy]

What is the exact name?

Couldn’t find it. Ask @reptiles

 

[Deleted member 3962]

thats a hard maybe. bimax on people who are downwards grown/w fucked up bite is legit but it doesnt cause such drastic changes to a properly grown face. with implants added it might be possible tho.
pm a surgeon and ask tbh

 

[ScramFranklin]

He is among the lowest intelligence members of this forum and there's practically no point explaining this to him (has been attempted numerous times). Honestly, I would like to see Kavan's opinion on his retarded rambling but he missed the registration deadline to that forum .

lol you are not wrong. I have mentioned seeing an actual surgeon multiple times to no avail..... mad scientist surgery combinations are not the way to go. It is kind of frustrating how so many users here don't understand the very basic movements and rotations (combine these 3 things to get 5 cm of forward growth, forward is good right?!). I have mentioned my frustrations, especially when users speak so "matter of factly" about completely incorrect statements. Literally spreading stupidity to the other users. The "CCW is ALWAYS good" meme bothers me quite a bit.

I did not realized that jawsurgeryforums closed registrations.

Even the good lookism users have left. Justthewayyouare was a fantastic, intelligent poster who actually was knowledgeable about the various intricacies of surgeries, and I learned a lot from him (I am by no means as knowledgeable as users such as users such as him). But I still try to spread basic knowledge from what I do know, and I fully admit if I am inexperienced in a subject. Unlike many users hear, who make ridiculous statements, yet get upvoted consistently. I guess confidence in your statements, no matter how false they may be is all it takes...

 

[Phoenix997]

This is how 20mm bsso amd 6mm lf1 looks






Now would you say tgis morph is realistically achievable

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U can stop day-dreaming now

138k just for jaw surgery lol wow that surgeon milked that shit like a good sociopath.

If you don’t have insurance the surgeon wouldn’t charge nearly that amount. Gunson and Sailer are 60-80K.

The "CCW is ALWAYS good" meme bothers me quite a bit.

What type of rotation should you get if you have a long face, your mandible is downwards grown, But your maxilla is short at the front so you have a weak smile/ show very little teeth when talking.

In that case CCW-r would bury the maxilla right? But CW would steepen the mandible plane even further. Is the answer in these cases to get CW-r bimax with a chin wing to flatten the mandible ?

 

[curryslayerordeath]

lol you are not wrong. I have mentioned seeing an actual surgeon multiple times to no avail..... mad scientist surgery combinations are not the way to go. It is kind of frustrating how so many users here don't understand the very basic movements and rotations (combine these 3 things to get 5 cm of forward growth, forward is good right?!). I have mentioned my frustrations, especially when users speak so "matter of factly" about completely incorrect statements. Literally spreading stupidity to the other users. The "CCW is ALWAYS good" meme bothers me quite a bit.

I did not realized that jawsurgeryforums closed registrations.

Even the good lookism users have left. Justthewayyouare was a fantastic, intelligent poster who actually was knowledgeable about the various intricacies of surgeries, and I learned a lot from him (I am by no means as knowledgeable as users such as users such as him). But I still try to spread basic knowledge from what I do know, and I fully admit if I am inexperienced in a subject. Unlike many users hear, who make ridiculous statements, yet get upvoted consistently. I guess confidence in your statements, no matter how false they may be is all it takes...

I relate so much to your last paragraph lol. Lurking on many old "ascended" users profiles on lookism and jsf (justthewayyouare, tyd, questforaesthetics, etc) helped me learn so much about the process and procedures. There's so many aesthetic inconsistencies in stuff that people say here (like this thread) which would result in terrible surgery outcomes (thankfully no surgeon would ever do so). Although I am a textbook doli CCW impaction case, it is quite funny when short-skulled brachys here are advised to do 10 degrees of counterclockwise rotation jfl. Most people can learn about their own case just by visiting a few relatively blackpilled maxfac's tbh while simultaneously doing their own research.

 

[Uglyandfat]

U can stop day-dreaming now

I have insurance and have an underbite no need to dream

 

[ScramFranklin]

What type of rotation should you get if you have a long face, your mandible is downwards grown, But your maxilla is short at the front so you have a weak smile/ show very little teeth when talking.

In that case CCW-r would bury the maxilla right? But CW would steepen the mandible plane even further. Is the answer in these cases to get CW-r bimax with a chin wing to flatten the mandible ?

Shooting from the hip here, it seems as though CW rotation of the maxilla, and CCW rotation of the maxilla would be what you want.. but again, it's not that simple. Rotations can be done either through downgrafting or impaction, or a combination of them. With little teeth in the maxilla showing, some type of downgrafting should be done... I am not sure whether braces could stabilize a bite, when those other (opposite) rotations are done. Although it would not surprise me if it could be done. I don't see why not.

I relate so much to your last paragraph lol. Lurking on many old "ascended" users profiles on lookism and jsf (justthewayyouare, tyd, questforaesthetics, etc) helped me learn so much about the process and procedures. There's so many aesthetic inconsistencies in stuff that people say here (like this thread) which would result in terrible surgery outcomes (thankfully no surgeon would ever do so). Although I am a textbook doli CCW impaction case, it is quite funny when short-skulled brachys here are advised to do 10 degrees of counterclockwise rotation jfl. Most people can learn about their own case just by visiting a few relatively blackpilled maxfac's tbh while simultaneously doing their own research.

Btw, just curious, what are your plans?

Absolutely. We are not all identical "dolls" who need similar movements/rotations. It's all unique, and having a "balanced" face is the end goal. And even with very experienced surgeons, I have seen atrocious results... it's just not as easy as members here think. There are many variables to take into place....

I have had two jaw surgery consultations. The first surgeon (or maybe just his software) labeled me a "severe brachyfacial". I brought that up to my second surgeon... he said I am a mix of brachy and doli... my mandible is like this: " -\"..... so the posterior part of my mandible is flat and then there is step off"where it steepens quite a bit. My current plan (via my proposed surgeon) is advancement of both jaws, CCW of my mandible, and a three piece Lefort 1 of my maxilla ( with CCW, although the entire maxilla is being moved down as well, so downgrafting of the entire maxilla, just more from the posterior). Also a minor genioplasty

 

[ThisLifeKillsMe]

Stop using bimax to correct overbite/underbite as a reference for people that have a good bite to begin with, you can't achieve the same transformation.

This. People cope with it since at least half a decade

 

[RazerGlazer]

That whore has the worst glonial angle I have ever seen in my life.

Is there any surgery for gonial angle? I think what she lacks is the ramus, right?

 

[WillVisitGandy]

Couldn’t find it. Ask @reptiles

Are you talking about chin wing ?

U can stop day-dreaming now

Just go in Russia/Europe, it'll be litteraly 10x cheaper than this.