Can i achieve this hollowness with surgery?

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Im putting my lips forward and engaging mass eaters (not sucking in anything). I have a deepbute and my jaw rotation is a bit recessed. Im getting braces and will fix the deepbite/recession. Can i achieve this without anything or is lipoban/ buccalfat removal needed? Also im 17
 
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@Tylermax @MyDreamIsToBe183CM @DarkAscender @albanianblackguy you guys know anything?
 
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You got huge potential bro. Mirin hard. You can achieve this without buccal fat removal or lipoban
 
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seems really too fucking hollow, barrett type of hollow, not sure if achievable without surgery ( of course i mean totally unflexed etc) and yes u look good
 
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uncanny
 
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Why would u want this type of hollowness?
I bet u could get decent hollows without any surgery
 
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Im putting my lips forward and engaging mass eaters (not sucking in anything). I have a deepbute and my jaw rotation is a bit recessed. Im getting braces and will fix the deepbite/recession. Can i achieve this without anything or is lipoban/ buccalfat removal needed? Also im 17
id aim for slightly less hollow this uncanny
 
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Why would u want this type of hollowness?
I bet u could get decent hollows without any surgery
Right now i look decently puffy (close up) even tho im lean. I think this because of my recession causing me to have slight sfs (15.5 cm width and 19 cm skull lenght). Hopefully i will have 20 cms after the jaw rotation and maybe more when fully developed at age 20. Although i will never get the ideal since my forehead is tiny and no surgeries for that. Also this is the specific light under normal lighting it would be significantly less uncanny i think
 
seems really too fucking hollow, barrett type of hollow, not sure if achievable without surgery ( of course i mean totally unflexed etc) and yes u look good
I will post the results of telling gf about my "incel" life tmrw i have to work early tmrw so i got to sleep now.
 
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0 appeal
 
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looks retarded.
 
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Under this specific light i agree. I think outside with for example blue sky its way less uncanny and more natural. I could be wrong ofcourse.
hollows should be invisible in most light.

if they're not people will think you've got a disease or that you're a hobo.
 
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Im putting my lips forward and engaging mass eaters (not sucking in anything). I have a deepbute and my jaw rotation is a bit recessed. Im getting braces and will fix the deepbite/recession. Can i achieve this without anything or is lipoban/ buccalfat removal needed? Also im 17
It’s time to look up and smack yourself for being ND, just go socialize.
 
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hollows should be invisible in most light.

if they're not people will think you've got a disease or that you're a hobo.
I mean more like the deepness it adds to face you get what i mean?
 
This does not look good.

Having cheeks this hollow is very unappealing.

Dont do it
 
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It’s time to look up and smack yourself for being ND, just go socialize.
I will try. Im in break year right now and will have college in september. You might already know i went to do mechanical engineering but it was horrbile the study and people there. (Got passively bullied you could say)
 
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I will try. Im in break year right now and will have college in september. You might already know i went to do mechanical engineering but it was horrbile the study and people there. (Got passively bullied you could say)
Good job on trying, the only why to stop bullies to smack them ima be honest. But don’t end up like Barrett
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