Can leanmaxxing save me or should I continue bloatmaxxing until rope?

[GamerCel]

My height is like 170 and my weight 66 kg, i got decent muscle on legs and arms and shoulder, but some fat around thighs/stomach/chest
Should I even bother leanmaxxing or is semi-bloating the way to go for manlets

my phone camera is dog shit idk why picture is so bright

 

[Gengar]

you lack the bones to look good lean, you will look auschwitzmaxxed which is unattractive. i speak from experience.

 

[Lev Peshkov]

You would benefit hugely

 

[GamerCel]

you lack the bones to look good lean, you will look auschwitzmaxxed which is unattractive. i speak from experience.

You would benefit hugely

 

[Lev Peshkov]

U clearly have good zygos, zygos and hollows> fat bloat

 

[Deleted member 6908]

A lot of surgery needed, but base isn't terrible.

You're like mid-tier normie.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Could be lens distortion tho

Make a video clip, which minimises distortion has much as poss

 

[Stevensmithgerard]

My height is like 170 and my weight 66 kg, i got decent muscle on legs and arms and shoulder, but some fat around thighs/stomach/chest
Should I even bother leanmaxxing or is semi-bloating the way to go for manlets

my phone camera is dog shit idk why picture is so bright

Bro, get lean and stay lean. It will always be in style. Start training heavy and hard so that you look chiseled and thick like a god, not just "gaunt" and thin. Don't be lazy, and get your act together. You don't have much youth left, stop squandering your decent base by bloatmaxxing. Bust your ass in the gym, your diet, everything. What have you done today to get to your goal? Do you have a specific goal? Don't waste any more time playing games, cause there ain't much more left....

 

[mulattomaxxer]

You already look low bodyfat. I dont think you can leanmaxx much more then you are already at. You can continue trying to leanmaxx but you already look sub 15%.

If your after hollow cheeks you lack the bone structure for it.

 

[reptiles]

you lack the bones to look good lean, you will look auschwitzmaxxed which is unattractive. i speak from experience.

True but this a basic in terms of looksmaxing or else any surgery result you do will look awful

 

[Deusmaximus]

Bro, get lean and stay lean. It will always be in style. Start training heavy and hard so that you look chiseled and thick like a god, not just "gaunt" and thin. Don't be lazy, and get your act together. You don't have much youth left, stop squandering your decent base by bloatmaxxing. Bust your ass in the gym, your diet, everything. What have you done today to get to your goal? Do you have a specific goal? Don't waste any more time playing games, cause there ain't much more left....

How old is op?
Btw at 170cm looksmaxing is pretty useless anyway. No girl will see him as a male human. This height is death tier.

 

[GamerCel]

Could be lens distortion tho

Make a video clip, which minimises distortion has much as poss

yea looks a little different depending on how far away phone is, didnt know

How old is op?
Btw at 170cm looksmaxing is pretty useless anyway. No girl will see him as a male human. This height is death tier.

im 21, but you are giga coping
I will never be a chad, but no reason not to looksmaxx, it gives so many advantages other than fucking roasties

 

[Deusmaximus]

yea looks a little different depending on how far away phone is, didnt know

im 21, but you are giga coping
I will never be a chad, but no reason not to looksmaxx, it gives so many advantages other than fucking roasties

I have talked to so many girls, and they would NEVER EVER date a guy below 180cm.
Its so brutally over at 170. But deep down you already know that. You just try to cope.
Even fat ugly landwhales at least demand a tall guy. Thats bare minimum. You would need to search for legit dwarfs to get a lay.
Just look how many girls are doing tik tok videos about how disgusting they find short guys. They always talk about guys below 5`11, which is still 10cm taller than you. I am 178cm and called short but otherwise cute many times. Girls told me in the face that i would be their type with 10cm more height. Now remember, that you are 8cm shorter than me.
ITS O V E R

 

[randomuser2407]

you lack the bones to look good lean, you will look auschwitzmaxxed which is unattractive. i speak from experience.

It's not a matter of bones, he just lacks the muscle mass to look amazing lean. It's possible to look decent when you're just slightly muscular but it's difficult to maintain that weight for a long period of time.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Lol dude that's basically a photo.

You haven't moved a bit and just brought the camera closer, causing more distortion.

Actually be free and loose and move your face to the side and show your side-profile so we can see maxillary positioning.

Your lips are very good and you have good upper and lower cheekbones but I can't tell much else. Your brows are nice and low set. The eyes I can't make much off. Can't make much of your orbital rims.

Actually move your head. Show front, 3/4 and side profiles. All 3.

Similar to this.

 

[CursedOne]

Lol dude that's basically a photo.

You haven't moved a bit and just brought the camera closer, causing more distortion.

Actually be free and loose and move your face to the side and show your side-profile so we can see maxillary positioning.

Your lips are very good and you have good upper and lower cheekbones but I can't tell much else. Your brows are nice and low set. The eyes I can't make much off. Can't make much of your orbital rims.

Actually move your head. Show front, 3/4 and side profiles. All 3.

Similar to this.

autistic moves

 

[Deleted member 6908]

autistic moves

I was emphasising on my droopy eyelid failo :-(

Surgery needed.

 

[GamerCel]

Lol dude that's basically a photo.

I have talked to so many girls, and they would NEVER EVER date a guy below 180cm.
Its so brutally over at 170. But deep down you already know that. You just try to cope.
Even fat ugly landwhales at least demand a tall guy. Thats bare minimum. You would need to search for legit dwarfs to get a lay.
Just look how many girls are doing tik tok videos about how disgusting they find short guys. They always talk about guys below 5`11, which is still 10cm taller than you. I am 178cm and called short but otherwise cute many times. Girls told me in the face that i would be their type with 10cm more height. Now remember, that you are 8cm shorter than me.
ITS O V E R

you are giga coping, a guy 180 cm is obviously preferred, but how come I have seen young male manlets with qt gfs?
The tik tok girls and the girls you were talking to are major sluts
also an underrated fact is that height requirement is more important on white guys, ethnics are affected less (black dont count as ethnic)

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Yo shit, ngl, your lower tier is kinda decent.

I think your mandible is VERY GOOD

Strengths of your mandible:

1. Parallel to the ground (Straight as fuck)
2. Lengthy. Elongated mandible. It comes long and far.
3. Your gonial angle is strong. VERY STRONG INFACT.

I know however WHY your jaw doesn't stand-out as much as it could or at least not from the front and I could be wrong. PSL autists, do correct me. Your ramus is on the short-side. It's the bone that comes down from the ear-lobe to the bottom of the gonial angle. Women are supposed to have a short ramus and men a long one. Yours is short. However your mandible is very long and strong. So your lower-tier is strong and looks good, but depending on whether you make exception for the short ramus. I can see some girls finding you attractive and some not, simply because of the shorter Ramus. Subliminally this is what they pick-up.

Your mouth and chin area are also very strong.

Your lower tier is your strength.

Your eye-area may be what's holding you back. Again a psl autist can correct me but your eyes are close-set I think? Meaning close-together. Mine are close-together too. It takes away from the strength of the lower-tier by giving off the impression of weak-genes. I dunno why. Could be wrong. If he doesn't have low IPD correct me psl autists.

Your nose has a slight downward slope at the end. This could also be holding you back. Black guys like Usher as a celebrity example can rock-that but not ethnics. You have star-trek, geek appeal. You're a semi good looking geek. The eyes make ya look a bit of a geek for some reason, but one girls could be drawn to if ya had a better body.

You're 170cm which is 5'7 and that's an instant failo. I'm 5'8 and trust me, you need leg lengthening but I wouldn't get it unless you are down for going through the trenches. I know they'll be a twit on here that reads this and tells you not to and to just use lifts, as if it's comfortable wearing fucking cushions in your footwear everywhere you go.

Overall you're about a high-tier normie. Photos distort your real rating. I had a feeling you';d look a bit better in video.

I don't know if there's surgery for your ramus, so your jaw is more prominent from a front-view. Your maxillary positioning is solid without being great. Weaknesses are close-set eyes and orbital rims and slightly the nose. You may have a tiny bit of a long-face, could be wrong, but not much. That's your midface ratio btw.

Halos and failos combined in your face. Height means the failos could stand-out more depending on the girl. A Stacey will see the failos and I think you know that.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

This is the bone you're lacking @GamerCel

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Actually.

It might just be your extra long sideburn that makes it seem as though your ramus is short?

Shave your sideburns you muppet.

 

[GamerCel]

This is the bone you're lacking @GamerCel

I see, was looking up the bones you wrote got me confused af.
I havent tried tindermaxxing or anything, but im gonna try to check if im truly subhuman

Actually.

It might just be your extra long sideburn that makes it seem as though your ramus is short?

Shave your sideburns you muppet.

idk bro, heres pic with glasses so u can compare with a straight line

 

[Stevensmithgerard]

you are giga coping, a guy 180 cm is obviously preferred, but how come I have seen young male manlets with qt gfs?
The tik tok girls and the girls you were talking to are major sluts
also an underrated fact is that height requirement is more important on white guys, ethnics are affected less (black dont count as ethnic)

Get a real slayer haircut. Get lean. Get big. Get lifts. Get a nose job. Think about actual leg lifts one day. Ascend. You do have potential

 

[Deleted member 6908]

I see, was looking up the bones you wrote got me confused af.
I havent tried tindermaxxing or anything, but im gonna try to check if im truly subhuman

idk bro, heres pic with glasses so u can compare with a straight line
View attachment 690848

Yeah your ramus is fine.

You have Chad lower-tier and the rest of your face is Normie.

Your eye-area is normie. If you made that pretty with surgery and fixed the end of the nose a little, you'd have the right blend of masculine and pretty-boy.

Your mouth and chin are very strong.

Saying all this, with the face you've got, if you were 6'2, you'd be seen as Chad-lite. So in your case it's really mostly the height that's the issue.

Your orbital rims and eyes seeming a bit dull are the only facial problems.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Get a real slayer haircut. Get lean. Get big. Get lifts. Get a nose job. Think about actual leg lifts one day. Ascend. You do have potential

This is why I say still-pictures are not accurate. Everyone thought he was low tier normie till he took a video lol.

 

[loksr]

I have talked to so many girls, and they would NEVER EVER date a guy below 180cm.
Its so brutally over at 170. But deep down you already know that. You just try to cope.
Even fat ugly landwhales at least demand a tall guy. Thats bare minimum. You would need to search for legit dwarfs to get a lay.
Just look how many girls are doing tik tok videos about how disgusting they find short guys. They always talk about guys below 5`11, which is still 10cm taller than you. I am 178cm and called short but otherwise cute many times. Girls told me in the face that i would be their type with 10cm more height. Now remember, that you are 8cm shorter than me.
ITS O V E R

Reminder that you have a goblin face and if at ANY point a girl tells you that you’re “not her type” the problem is your FACE.

Reminder that manlet chad is fucking those “teehee 6 foot plus only” sluts up the ass as we speak

 

[GamerCel]

Get a real slayer haircut. Get lean. Get big. Get lifts. Get a nose job. Think about actual leg lifts one day. Ascend. You do have potential

This is why I say still-pictures are not accurate. Everyone thought he was low tier normie till he took a video lol.

Ait, thanks boys
Im gonna do those things and show you results

 

[GamerCel]

Reminder that you have a goblin face and if at ANY point a girl tells you that you’re “not her type” the problem is your FACE.

Reminder that manlet chad is fucking those “teehee 6 foot plus only” sluts up the ass as we speak

Yeah that guy is clearly giga coping by saying 178 cm is too short for women, easier for women to reject by height rather than directly calling his face subhuman

 

[Deusmaximus]

Reminder that you have a goblin face and if at ANY point a girl tells you that you’re “not her type” the problem is your FACE.

Reminder that manlet chad is fucking those “teehee 6 foot plus only” sluts up the ass as we speak

Of course my face is not attractive. That doesnt change the fact that 170cm is instant pussy closer and borderline dwarfism. I have enough friends that are 190cm and unattractive face, and still have decent success. Other small with handsome face, but heavy struggle.

 

[loksr]

Yeah that guy is clearly giga coping by saying 178 cm is too short for women, easier for women to reject by height rather than directly calling his face subhuman

He’s probably larping, I doubt any women have said any of that shit to him.

Maybe he’s just been rejected thousands of times and he’s coping going “n-no it c-can’t be my f-face.... mommy s-says I’m handsome.. it must be my height”

 

[loksr]

Of course my face is not attractive. That doesnt change the fact that 170cm is instant pussy closer and borderline dwarfism. I have enough friends that are 190cm and unattractive face, and still have decent success. Other small with handsome face, but heavy struggle.

Not an instant pussy closer by any means. It’s a negative but face can still easily overcome it. Instant pussy closer happens at legit female heights like 5’4” and shit, that’s the level where face is gonna struggle to get you past it

 

[Deleted member 3573]

Bloatmax. Girls love the extra weight on their clit and nipples

 

[Deusmaximus]

He’s probably larping, I doubt any women have said any of that shit to him.

Maybe he’s just been rejected thousands of times and he’s coping going “n-no it c-can’t be my f-face.... mommy s-says I’m handsome.. it must be my height”

Not an instant pussy closer by any means. It’s a negative but face can still easily overcome it. Instant pussy closer happens at legit female heights like 5’4” and shit, that’s the level where face is gonna struggle to get you past it

You are braindead and just a coping manlet. 170cm is A DEATH SENTENCE. At this point i will stop discussing with you. The face of chico on 170cm would struggle hard in germany.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

I have talked to so many girls, and they would NEVER EVER date a guy below 180cm.
Its so brutally over at 170. But deep down you already know that. You just try to cope.
Even fat ugly landwhales at least demand a tall guy. Thats bare minimum. You would need to search for legit dwarfs to get a lay.
Just look how many girls are doing tik tok videos about how disgusting they find short guys. They always talk about guys below 5`11, which is still 10cm taller than you. I am 178cm and called short but otherwise cute many times. Girls told me in the face that i would be their type with 10cm more height. Now remember, that you are 8cm shorter than me.
ITS O V E R

Tbh this is real.

178 is 5'10 and was seen as a solid height for a man several years ago.

That has now increased to 180cm

It is insane, utterly insane, that 2cm can make all the difference.

I will be doing leg lengthening being only 173cm. I've had relative success with girls, but not as much as when I was in my teens and early 20s and much is due to the reason that being below 180cm immediately makes you less masculine. You can run pretty boy game while girls are still in a JB frame of mind and they're all like; "awwww, he's so cute and I just wanna eat him", but once they get the craving for a masculine guy, that's the end-of-the-story.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Bloatmax. Girls love the extra weight on their clit and nipples

Bloat? You mean bulk?

 

[loksr]

You are braindead and just a coping manlet. 170cm is A DEATH SENTENCE. At this point i will stop discussing with you. The face of chico on 170cm would struggle hard in germany.

Keep telling yourself it’s your height bro, whatever keeps you from roping you goblin faced subhuman.

Reminder that all the girls that have rejected you for being “too short” have gargled the cum of guys who are shorter than you.

Face is king just stop coping

 

[Deleted member 6908]

You already look low bodyfat. I dont think you can leanmaxx much more then you are already at. You can continue trying to leanmaxx but you already look sub 15%.

If your after hollow cheeks you lack the bone structure for it.

Building muscle will enhance his face. Trust me. There is a science behind it. Can't be assed to Google it.

 

[GamerCel]

Bloatmax. Girls love the extra weight on their clit and nipples

Bloat? You mean bulk?

https://looksmax.org/threads/bloatmaxxing-is-legit.50060/

 

[Deusmaximus]

Keep telling yourself it’s your height bro, whatever keeps you from roping you goblin faced subhuman.

Reminder that all the girls that have rejected you for being “too short” have gargled the cum of guys who are shorter than you.

Face is king just stop coping

I observe couples and social dynamics in clubs on a daily base. I never never never never ever see a small guy with a attractive girl. Not even once in a whole year. Height is the most important sign of dominance and power. I know many females, and talked with then about their preference. None of them would EVER date a small guy with a chad face. They all have chads with tall height available. You NEED both, or its over. Btw op is far away from beeing a chad.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

Keep telling yourself it’s your height bro, whatever keeps you from roping you goblin faced subhuman.

Reminder that all the girls that have rejected you for being “too short” have gargled the cum of guys who are shorter than you.

Face is king just stop coping

You're both right.

If you're 8+ in the looks department then you can get away with 5'7 and land a 5'4 Stacey. Even 5'6 with a strong frame and a bit of masculine charisma, but that is pushing it and she can't be into wearing heals and any more than 5'3/5'4.

The guys who are between 6-7/10 need to be at least 5'10 tall though and it is arguable that this needs to be 5'11.

The jump from a 6-7 out of 10 face to an 8/10+ face is huge. You can't have a single failo and the eye-area has to be spot-on with a diamond jaw and lengthy, parallel to the ground.

I've seen 5/10 guys back at Uni with 6'2+ height, a bit of charisma and they've slayed. Their midfaces were compact tho and the girls were top tier normies with makeup and bods.

Height can halo you if you have a bit of charisma to add onto your acceptable facial looks. (Wide shoulder frame assisted)

 

[mulattomaxxer]

Building muscle will enhance his face. Trust me. There is a science behind it. Can't be assed to Google it.

I have seen peoples faces improve from gaining muscles, but I have also seen peoples faces remain the same after gaining muscle.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

https://looksmax.org/threads/bloatmaxxing-is-legit.50060/

That's muscle bulk with high body fat.

Don't listen to these incels. They're truly dumb.

 

[loksr]

I observe couples and social dynamics in clubs on a daily base. I never never never never ever see a small guy with a attractive girl. Not even once in a whole year. Height is the most important sign of dominance and power. I know many females, and talked with then about their preference. None of them would EVER date a small guy with a chad face. They all have chads with tall height available. You NEED both, or its over.

I’m not arguing with you, I’m being nice enough to tell you how the world actually works so you can stop being delusional about your height and instead work on improving what matters: your face.

>hurr I’ve never seen attractive girl with short guy hurr
Yeah yeah, sure bro, whatever copes your boat. Do you have a oneitis? Manlet chad is giving her a creampie right now while you seriously consider literally disabling yourself with LL surgery only to still get rejected by all of the girls.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

I have seen peoples faces improve from gaining muscles, but I have also seen peoples faces remain the same after gaining muscle.

Or you mean they were so ugly that nothing could save them.

An average to marginally above average face with solid lower-tier can improve a lot from muscular development.

Of course nothing can save an ugly guy, but guys with good lower thirds that start gymmaxing are always gonna improve. Unless their eye-area is terrible or their midface an elongated joke.

 

[loksr]

You're both right.

If you're 8+ in the looks department then you can get away with 5'7 and land a 5'4 Stacey. Even 5'6 with a strong frame and a bit of masculine charisma, but that is pushing it and she can't be into wearing heals and any more than 5'3/5'4.

The guys who are between 6-7/10 need to be at least 5'10 tall though and it is arguable that this needs to be 5'11.

The jump from a 6-7 out of 10 face to an 8/10+ face is huge. You can't have a single failo and the eye-area has to be spot-on with a diamond jaw and lengthy, parallel to the ground.

I've seen 5/10 guys back at Uni with 6'2+ height, a bit of charisma and they've slayed. Their midfaces were compact tho and the girls were top tier normies with makeup and bods.

Height can halo you if you have a bit of charisma to add onto your acceptable facial looks. (Wide shoulder frame assisted)

6-7/10 irl can be shorter than that, your cut offs are way too high
Your cutoffs are more like what girls SAY rather than what girls DO

but I am assuming 6-7/10 irl means above average looking, if it’s the normie rating of “every average person is a 6-7/10” then yeah fsir enough

 

[GamerCel]

I observe couples and social dynamics in clubs on a daily base.

And this is not pure autism? Wtf are you doing there even

That's muscle bulk with high body fat.

Don't listen to these incels. They're truly dumb.

lmao its just a meme

 

[Deusmaximus]

I’m not arguing with you, I’m being nice enough to tell you how the world actually works so you can stop being delusional about your height and instead work on improving what matters: your face.

>hurr I’ve never seen attractive girl with short guy hurr
Yeah yeah, sure bro, whatever copes your boat. Do you have a oneitis? Manlet chad is giving her a creampie right now while you seriously consider literally disabling yourself with LL surgery only to still get rejected by all of the girls.

On what kind of base do you argument? Are you seeing guys at 170cm having hot gfs? Are you basing on a study? Can you send me? You want to tell me how the world works, but what is your base?
I am going out since 10yrs. With and without 6cm lifts.
I am having a lot of small and tall friend.
I have a decent laycount and talked to many girls.
So what is your base of knowledge?
Let me guess... the normal .me „face is everything“ cope?
Yes face is everything, but height is the base.

 

[Deleted member 6908]

6-7/10 irl can be shorter than that, your cut offs are way too high
Your cutoffs are more like what girls SAY rather than what girls DO

but I am assuming 6-7/10 irl means above average looking, if it’s the normie rating of “every average person is a 6-7/10” then yeah fsir enough

Ok.

6-7/10 irl and ethnic then.

JBW + 6-7/10 irl has a cut-off height of what then in your opinion? White guy. 5'5? Cmon now bro. You will struggle to get a decent looking normie girl to sleep with you if you're 5 feet 5 and have a 6-7/10 face. They are looking directly straight at you and that smells of bad genetics right away. You better look mesmerising facially or have status/money.

6-7 is above average looking, yes, but HOT girls only care about guys with 8+ faces unless they have the height to halo to decent looking face

 

[Deleted member 6908]

6-7 is above average looking, yes, but HOT girls only care about guys with 8+ faces unless they have the height to halo their just decent looking faces

 

[loksr]

Ok.

6-7/10 irl and ethnic then.

JBW + 6-7/10 irl has a cut-off height of what then in your opinion? White guy. 5'5? Cmon now bro. You will struggle to get a decent looking normie girl to sleep with you if you're 5 feet 5 and have a 6-7/10 face. They are looking directly straight at you and that smells of bad genetics right away. You better look mesmerising facially or have status/money.

Obviously 5’8”-5’7” the normal “that’s a manlet” height.
Don’t try to make the jump from 5’11” to 5’5” like that