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Hello everyone,
First of all, I'd like to say that I truly don’t believe the deformities I suffer from are due to genetics. Before the adenoid issue developed, I didn’t have droopy eyelids, a dorsal hump on my nose, a narrow face, or a recessed chin. None of my family members have any of the features I just mentioned either.
In the photos above, I was around 3–4 years old, before the adenoid formed. After the adenoid appeared, it stayed for around 4–5 months and completely ruined my face.
In these photos, I was around 5–6 years old.
On top of that, due to mouth breathing caused by the adenoid, I developed a hunchback. I had poor posture with a hunched back until I was around 11–12 years old, which worsened my facial structure even more.
In the lower photos, I was around 11–12 years old.
Right now, I’m 13 years old and will turn 14 in about a year. I’ve managed to fix my hunchback through various exercises. I now breathe exclusively through my nose 24/7, even while sleeping. How can I be so sure? I downloaded an app on my phone called “ZZZ Meter” to monitor whether I breathe through my mouth or nose during sleep. I used it for 2–3 days, and the results showed I was consistently breathing through my nose. I also searched online for “signs of mouth breathing while sleeping,” and thankfully, none of them apply to me.
I take great care of my health, nutrition, and sleep. I never cheat with packaged foods. I don’t even drink water from plastic bottles—only from a metal flask. On weekdays, I sleep at least 8 hours; on weekends, at least 9 hours. I go to bed around 10 PM. I consume very little bread, pasta (gluten and carbs), salt, and sugar. Instead, I eat homemade meals in proper portions and snack on fruits, vegetables, and greens. I found the ideal water intake for my height and weight online and drink 1.5–2 liters daily. I do daily stretching and walk for an average of 30 minutes a day. I avoid spending too much time on screens unless necessary. I sleep on my back and always maintain an upright posture during the day (even while sitting), using chairs with proper lumbar support.
In short, every factor or habit other than the deformity itself that could affect my facial development is in a positive state.
It’s obvious that the deformation in my face was caused by the adenoid. Because of mouth breathing, my palate (maxilla) became narrow and I developed an overbite. As a result, my face grew in a downward direction, and my palate became V-shaped and concave. This also caused my teeth to become crowded. To fix the issue, I went to an orthodontist. Around 7–8 months ago, I got braces, and my teeth are now straight. Yesterday, my doctor gave me a type of elastic called “rubber bands” to correct my overbite.
But it makes no sense. These bands won’t move my lower jaw forward—they’ll just pull my upper jaw backward. As a result, my maxilla will become recessed or flat, which will make my face look even worse. I had already researched this and learned that a better alternative would be using a fixed functional appliance (Herbst, Twin Force, Twin Block, Powerscope, etc.). These appliances move only the lower jaw forward skeletally, not just dentally, and thus create real bone-structure changes in facial convexity, like in this GIF animation.
Results of Functional Fixed Appliances:
[Series of image links showing positive effects of Herbst, Twin Block, etc.]
resmim.net
Results of Appliances Like Forsus and Rubber Bands (Which Pull Maxilla Backward):
[Series of image links showing negative effects like increased nasal hump, recessed midface, etc.]
resmim.net
Although both appliance types aim to move the jaw forward, fixed functional appliances also positively affect nasal angles and sometimes even reduce a nasal hump. In contrast, Forsus and rubber bands pull the maxilla backward, which can cause or worsen a nasal hump and make the nose appear larger or more pronounced. I explained all this to my doctor in a respectful and clear manner, showing all my research and evidence. He agreed with my findings and praised my effort, but said my upper and lower jaw development is already complete. He claimed that at this point, neither type of appliance would have a skeletal effect and that only my teeth positions could be changed. So, he gave me the rubber bands and said they wouldn’t affect my maxilla.
I objected, but it was no use. I had no choice but to take them. Since getting them yesterday, I haven’t used them—and I don’t plan to. I have no idea how he determined my jaw development is complete. It doesn't make sense to me.
The age limit for the appliances I want:
At what age does jaw development stop in males:
At my next appointment, I plan to download and show these photos to my doctor. For now, my only hope is the expander they’re going to give me. I feel stuck and overwhelmed. All my efforts can’t end in disappointment. I’m so tired of feeling ashamed when going outside, of people staring at me, of older girls mocking me, of having no self-confidence. I’m sick of constantly squinting and pushing my jaw forward like a maniac just to look “normal.” Please don’t misunderstand me—I have no bad intentions. I just want to be a normal person and live a normal life.
Sorry for the long message, and thank you so much in advance. What should I do from here? What steps should I take?
Thanks again, and I wish you all the best.
First of all, I'd like to say that I truly don’t believe the deformities I suffer from are due to genetics. Before the adenoid issue developed, I didn’t have droopy eyelids, a dorsal hump on my nose, a narrow face, or a recessed chin. None of my family members have any of the features I just mentioned either.
In the photos above, I was around 3–4 years old, before the adenoid formed. After the adenoid appeared, it stayed for around 4–5 months and completely ruined my face.
In these photos, I was around 5–6 years old.
On top of that, due to mouth breathing caused by the adenoid, I developed a hunchback. I had poor posture with a hunched back until I was around 11–12 years old, which worsened my facial structure even more.
In the lower photos, I was around 11–12 years old.
Right now, I’m 13 years old and will turn 14 in about a year. I’ve managed to fix my hunchback through various exercises. I now breathe exclusively through my nose 24/7, even while sleeping. How can I be so sure? I downloaded an app on my phone called “ZZZ Meter” to monitor whether I breathe through my mouth or nose during sleep. I used it for 2–3 days, and the results showed I was consistently breathing through my nose. I also searched online for “signs of mouth breathing while sleeping,” and thankfully, none of them apply to me.
I take great care of my health, nutrition, and sleep. I never cheat with packaged foods. I don’t even drink water from plastic bottles—only from a metal flask. On weekdays, I sleep at least 8 hours; on weekends, at least 9 hours. I go to bed around 10 PM. I consume very little bread, pasta (gluten and carbs), salt, and sugar. Instead, I eat homemade meals in proper portions and snack on fruits, vegetables, and greens. I found the ideal water intake for my height and weight online and drink 1.5–2 liters daily. I do daily stretching and walk for an average of 30 minutes a day. I avoid spending too much time on screens unless necessary. I sleep on my back and always maintain an upright posture during the day (even while sitting), using chairs with proper lumbar support.
In short, every factor or habit other than the deformity itself that could affect my facial development is in a positive state.
It’s obvious that the deformation in my face was caused by the adenoid. Because of mouth breathing, my palate (maxilla) became narrow and I developed an overbite. As a result, my face grew in a downward direction, and my palate became V-shaped and concave. This also caused my teeth to become crowded. To fix the issue, I went to an orthodontist. Around 7–8 months ago, I got braces, and my teeth are now straight. Yesterday, my doctor gave me a type of elastic called “rubber bands” to correct my overbite.
But it makes no sense. These bands won’t move my lower jaw forward—they’ll just pull my upper jaw backward. As a result, my maxilla will become recessed or flat, which will make my face look even worse. I had already researched this and learned that a better alternative would be using a fixed functional appliance (Herbst, Twin Force, Twin Block, Powerscope, etc.). These appliances move only the lower jaw forward skeletally, not just dentally, and thus create real bone-structure changes in facial convexity, like in this GIF animation.
Results of Functional Fixed Appliances:
[Series of image links showing positive effects of Herbst, Twin Block, etc.]
result of functional fixed apc
result of functional fixed apc resmi indir - Resim Yükle - Hızlı Resim
resmim.net
Results of Appliances Like Forsus and Rubber Bands (Which Pull Maxilla Backward):
[Series of image links showing negative effects like increased nasal hump, recessed midface, etc.]
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416869 2 En 3 Fig23 HTML resmi indir - Resim Yükle - Hızlı Resim
resmim.net
Although both appliance types aim to move the jaw forward, fixed functional appliances also positively affect nasal angles and sometimes even reduce a nasal hump. In contrast, Forsus and rubber bands pull the maxilla backward, which can cause or worsen a nasal hump and make the nose appear larger or more pronounced. I explained all this to my doctor in a respectful and clear manner, showing all my research and evidence. He agreed with my findings and praised my effort, but said my upper and lower jaw development is already complete. He claimed that at this point, neither type of appliance would have a skeletal effect and that only my teeth positions could be changed. So, he gave me the rubber bands and said they wouldn’t affect my maxilla.
I objected, but it was no use. I had no choice but to take them. Since getting them yesterday, I haven’t used them—and I don’t plan to. I have no idea how he determined my jaw development is complete. It doesn't make sense to me.
The age limit for the appliances I want:
At what age does jaw development stop in males:
At my next appointment, I plan to download and show these photos to my doctor. For now, my only hope is the expander they’re going to give me. I feel stuck and overwhelmed. All my efforts can’t end in disappointment. I’m so tired of feeling ashamed when going outside, of people staring at me, of older girls mocking me, of having no self-confidence. I’m sick of constantly squinting and pushing my jaw forward like a maniac just to look “normal.” Please don’t misunderstand me—I have no bad intentions. I just want to be a normal person and live a normal life.
Sorry for the long message, and thank you so much in advance. What should I do from here? What steps should I take?
Thanks again, and I wish you all the best.
