Can religious people keep their belief after going to school ?

[bakpaokukus]

What country do you live in ? Nobody is relihious here

Indonesia. Basically a mix of Pakistan and Philippines

 

[Lebgfinal]

Indonesia. Basically a mix of Pakistan and Philippines

Is it like we learn here ? Do you live in that ?

 

[bakpaokukus]

Is it like we learn here ? Do you live in that ?
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No, I mean there are some unfortunate niggas who have to live there tho but I personally live in a small random ass town

 

[TheAnomaly]

Think about it for two seconds. Our school system teaches values that goes agaisnt any religion (like christianity, judaism or islam); evolution, the fact earth exists since like thousands of years, etc.. All of this goes totally agaisnt the foundation of these religion. How can someone religious go to school and be competant in that matter, considering they believe in god and that evolution is fake. Do they simply become atheist or just pretend at school that they believe in it ?

Most schools are government indoctrination camps. Weak minded sheep are shat out to become compliant workslave drones. Just look at all the mindless NPCs who lined up to get the clotshot for a disease with a >99% survival rate. If you love God, you will cling to him, not the government.

 

[Andremln]

The Church (Catholic) accepts that the Earth is probably around 4 million years old as this is what the science says

My nigga please tell me this was a grammar mistake and you wanted to say 4.5 billion yrs

The idea that religion and science are in conflict is wrong and a very modern idea, which really came about with Voltaire.

Are we forgetting instances like what happened to Galileo, Giordano Bruno or Hypatia of Alexandria? Christian monks scraped her flesh from her bones, tore off her limbs, and burned her mutilated body because she promoted Neoplatonism which was key to influence niggas like Kepler or Newton who were an angular stone to modern science development

I'm not saying your whole essay/argument is wrong but you kind of oversimplified it tbh

 

[jacobrb07]

My nigga please tell me this was a grammar mistake and you wanted to say 4.5 billion yrs


Are we forgetting instances like what happened to Galileo, Giordano Bruno or Hypatia of Alexandria? Christian monks scraped her flesh from her bones, tore off her limbs, and burned her mutilated body because she promoted Neoplatonism which was key to influence niggas like Kepler or Newton who were an angular stone to modern science development

I'm not saying your whole essay/argument is wrong but you kind of oversimplified it tbh

Yeah it was a mistake

the church opposed galileo because he was going around telling people that he was right when he didn’t have much evidence in support of his position. That’s not to say that the heliocentric model wasn’t a popular model; scientists were fairly split over what revolves around what. The issue with him is that he went around telling people he was absolutely correct, when the evidence at the time was against him. He wasn’t able to explain some key issues with his model eg how the moon affected tides. The churches opposition to the model was on the basis that it wasn’t proven and could be seen when they banned Copernicus’ book on heliocentrism but after it was edited to say it was a hypothetical idea, the book was allowed again. Galileo didn’t help himself as he decided to attack the pope, who was interested in the subject and had made arguments for geocentrism. Galileo wrote a book in which he put the popes arguments in the mouth of a character named Simplicius, basically calling the pope an idiot. It was for these reasons he was put on house arrest, in order to stop him from spreading a view he could not prove.

Giordano Bruno was tried for heresy during the inquisition, for which he was guilty. Now yeah we can say that maybe people shouldn’t have been killed for heresy but that’s another matter.

Hypatia of Alexandria was probably not killed for her science and mathematics, although the Christian monks not understanding her philosophy and deeming her a witch no doubt had a part to play. It does seem that she was killed because she prevented the improvement of relations between the archbishop and the prefect.

Now again maybe they shouldn’t have been killed or persecuted but we must not forget that the church acknowledges that she has made mistakes, but ultimately we see that the church has fostered some of the greatest scientific, mathematic and philosophical minds there have been, so imo some misjudgments (some not even sanctioned by the church, more-so individuals acting on their own accord) do not detract from the positive impact the church has had on science as a whole.

 

[jacobrb07]

My nigga please tell me this was a grammar mistake and you wanted to say 4.5 billion yrs


Are we forgetting instances like what happened to Galileo, Giordano Bruno or Hypatia of Alexandria? Christian monks scraped her flesh from her bones, tore off her limbs, and burned her mutilated body because she promoted Neoplatonism which was key to influence niggas like Kepler or Newton who were an angular stone to modern science development

I'm not saying your whole essay/argument is wrong but you kind of oversimplified it tbh

We also mustn’t forget that some people (Jews) like to spread lies and distort what actually happened in church history, with many things not being as bad, even justifiable when the facts are observed.