The argument in favor of Retention

[wollet2]

You already disproved your own argument by arguing in favor of me and now you're back tracking

I never noticed you're this stupid, ignoring you now.

i didnt disprove anything

for people that cant get sex and are of low quality (Not normal people) abstinence will either drive them crazy or force them to go get sex, if they cant get sex (to me its more of a brain issue than looks or money) theyll try to self improve in whatever way that will delude them into thinking they deserve sex more now

so a simple tldr, for normal people that can get sex theres no real benefit from nofap or abstaining from sex, both feel about as good yeah sex isnt much better than masturbation, if you can get them no valid reason not to

 

[wollet2]

abstinence makes you delusional, unfortunately im not retarded and cant be deluded easily

 

[wollet2]

You are clearly almost disabled tier in your lack of logical capacity, so you are retarded.

Couldn't even work as a receptionist, it'd require too much mental bandwidth

how i think you misunderstadn me

my point was if you can already get sex theres no benefit from not getting sex or fapping , where will that constrained lust motivate you, you can already induldge in it , 'more sex' was ironic, nofap will not grant most sex havers more sex than they currently can possibly have

Yes, having sex with many women might be exciting if you’re going for a hedonistic approach. It depends on you if you want something pure that will last decades, or if you want to chase pleasure

i dont like your use of word pure , okay you want a more lasting and more familiar type of romantic love, more cuddles, less passion, less lust i respect that but its just you

 

[wollet2]

As you just said, for the 3rd time



I'm not responding to you anymore

hahaha good ignoring of the 'but' you gotta be hard trolling me which worked or just cant get what im saying

 

[wollet2]

Schopenhauer is the biggest misogynistic ragebaiter I love him

you want to love a woman and also love schopenhauters misogyny? very disturbing that type of love would be

 

[obscuredusk]

you want to love a woman and also love schopenhauters misogyny? very disturbing that type of love would be

I love his delusions

 

[wollet2]

I love his delusions

he was a delusional coper, went full retard with spirituality and hinduism

 

[imabetanumale]

I can also make up things like spirit, chakras, Energy, vibes, like if you eat, the animal or fruits or vegetable or any kindnof good spirit goes to your inner light and revitalizes It and then...

 

[iblamexyz]

Are you smarter than every genius in history, every religious and spiritual belief and prophet

Fucking copers, I am sick of it

I've noticed most people who deny nofap goon maliciously every day multiple times a day and do it to cope with their shitty existence

"Bro were incels there's nothing else to do"

Fucking gross, here are all the geniuses and religions of prominence explaining the benefits of nofap

You favor one study that says "test peaks at 7 days" over all of them? Why is testosterone alone the only consideration

If you're not an atheist, you already believe in nofap, AS LITERALLY NO ESOTERIC TRADITION DENIES IT

If it's not enough, then good riddance coomer, stay your ass away from me.

Absolutely. Here's a refined esoteric argument in favor of NoFap, now enriched with references to great geniuses, mystics, and historical figures who either explicitly or implicitly supported sexual restraint or transmutation of sexual energy, alongside nods to all major religious and spiritual systems.

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In Hinduism, the Rishis of old taught that brahmacharya (celibate discipline) refines ojas, the spiritual nectar that fuels enlightenment. Swami Vivekananda, a genius of spiritual insight, claimed:

Taoist sages practiced internal alchemy, transmuting jing into shen to attain immortality of spirit. This principle was echoed by Confucius, who taught restraint as the hallmark of a noble man (junzi).
In Buddhism, Gautama taught detachment from desire (tanha) as the root of liberation. Milarepa, the Tibetan yogi-mystic, meditated in caves for years, fueled by celibate clarity and spiritual fire.
Christian mystics, like St. Augustine—a philosophical titan—wrote in Confessions of lust as a great obstacle to the soul’s ascent.

The Desert Fathers retreated from Roman decadence, preserving their seed as they preserved the Gospel—believing their bodies to be temples for divine fire.

In Islam, the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) praised fasting as a protection for those without marriage, calling it the shield of the soul. Imam Al-Ghazali, the towering Sufi philosopher, described lust as a veil over the heart’s mirror.

Judaism, through the lens of Kabbalah, reveres sexual energy as yesod—the gateway between heaven and earth. Wasting seed disrupts the divine circuitry of shefa (flowing grace). Rabbi Nachman of Breslov warned that improper emission weakens the mind and dims spiritual insight.

Sikhism’s Gurus waged war against kaam (lust), one of the five spiritual thieves. Guru Nanak proclaimed that liberation comes to those who conquer desire, not those who are conquered by it.

Indigenous shamans around the world—whether the Amazonian ayahuasqueros or Siberian tunguska visionaries—practiced periods of sexual abstinence before rituals. They knew the seed was life-force, and its loss dulled the soul's antennae.

Even in modern Baha’i teachings, restraint is praised as the cultivation of spiritual refinement—placing detachment above indulgence.

Geniuses Who Echoed the Same​

Nikola Tesla, arguably the most brilliant inventor of the modern age, attributed his focus and genius to celibacy:


Leonardo da Vinci, celibate by most accounts, preserved his sexual energy and transmuted it into creative genius across art, science, and philosophy.

Isaac Newton, who discovered gravity and redefined physics, was famously abstinent. His obsession with alchemy and divine laws suggests he intuitively grasped sexual transmutation.

Immanuel Kant, the titan of Western philosophy, never married nor had known relations—his mind a cathedral of cold clarity.

Pythagoras, the mystic mathematician, enforced celibacy among his inner circle, teaching that discipline of the flesh was necessary for harmony with the divine.

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, mentor to Swami Vivekananda, never allowed his semen to spill and regarded women as manifestations of the Divine Mother. He said:


Mahatma Gandhi, who experimented with brahmacharya later in life, believed sexual abstinence sharpened the soul’s sword:


Arthur Schopenhauer, though often bleak, saw lust as the binding force of will—the primal illusion humanity must transcend.

Even Sigmund Freud, the father of psychoanalysis, acknowledged that sublimated libido powers great creativity and culture.

The Esoteric Conclusion​

The retention of one’s seed is the mystical act of turning lead (lust) into gold (gnosis). It is the magician’s discipline, the sage’s secret, the artist’s muse.

Every major religion whispers this truth in its sacred tongue. Every genius who stared into the abyss and brought back light walked this silent road.

Throughout all of human history it has been well known

The only period which anyone would claim it's deniable, is now,

Additionally, all major porn websites are owned by JEWS

YOU FAGGOTS HATE THE JEWS, JEWS THIS JEWS THAT

BUT BECAUSE YOU LIKE COOMING...

THEY PROBABLY ARENT DOING ANYTHING NEFARIOIS RIGHT?

JUST MAKING MONEY RIGHT?

@superpsycho
@Debetro
@PseudoMaxxer
@autistic_tendencies
@Epochs

super high iq thread lowkey BOTB thread

 

[PseudoMaxxer]

Insane IQ, I’ve been slowing down on gooning and I’m stopping now, already on day 3.

Can see the mental clarity and my vibrations being higher already.

The Jews are turning niggas into zombies.

 

[Tr0ubLe]

I reverse aged on retention.
Regrowing my hairline as of late. So high T it's like a second puberty. It's changing my face and my voice.
Gives you insane aura and magnetism despite being skinny.
Thing is nobody does it right.
All WDs are a relapse. All food is bad and destroys your semen. You gotta follow a very strict diet to avoid wds and not lose ojas.

 

[Tr0ubLe]

Freemasons and CIA practice this btw.

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

Freemasons and CIA practice this btw.

100%

I reverse aged on retention.
Regrowing my hairline as of late. So high T it's like a second puberty. It's changing my face and my voice.
Gives you insane aura and magnetism despite being skinny.
Thing is nobody does it right.
All WDs are a relapse. All food is bad and destroys your semen. You gotta follow a very strict diet to avoid wds and not lose ojas.

How long did this take? What day# did you notice all this?

Insane IQ, I’ve been slowing down on gooning and I’m stopping now, already on day 3.

Can see the mental clarity and my vibrations being higher already.

The Jews are turning niggas into zombies.

Nigger relapsed

 

[permaNTmasking]

not gooning until I materialize prime Kelly Monaco in a lucid dream and fuck the shit out of her

 

[AuraMaxxing]

I see where you’re coming from and that’s the same thought which pushed me to give it a try. I was on semen retention for 6 months (no porn, softcorn pictures or even movies with nudity) and my life certainly improved a lot. Now I bust like once or twice a day and it’s the exact same as it was when I was retaining.

Why?

Well because it wasn’t the retention in its own which led to a better life, it was the fact that I started working out, meditating and eating better.

I with experience am able to say for myself that nofap (whilst not completely useless because it propels you to improve) doesn’t work. The only time I would recommend it to someone is if they’re experiencing genuine problems related to sex such as ED.

 

[Tr0ubLe]

100%

How long did this take? What day# did you notice all this?

Nigger relapsed

Takes a while. But If you do it right then you'll achieve it faster. Diet and celibacy