can someone that roided tell me if ill get fibrosis with a 3y+ blast?

[infrainfra]

Title

i want to do a 3 year blast with no test base so im scared of doing hcg every 6 weeks or so. i want to wipe out any residual e2 during my teenage years to grow until late ~20s. my ERs are going to be hypersensitive so any e2 in my system (while using hcg) will cause harm and eventually sabotage my aggressive heightmaxxing plan.
Can i get away with not using hcg or anything?



idk who to tag

@SlayerJonas
@aids
@ICL
@Zagro

 

[160cmcurry]

i want to do a 3 year blast with no test base

 

[ICL]

i want to do a 3 year blast with no test base

What are u blasting brah

o im scared of doing hcg every 6 weeks or so.

U dont need to use HCG, in the long run you will lose more of $$ compared to T which would get you way more.

Additionally, you'll be desensitized; it's called tachyphylaxis.

 

[infrainfra]

whats the reason for a test base? nothing except some slight cognitive benefits + gym i wont be going to anyway. adding test will close my plates and thats something normies will not understand @aids

 

[infrainfra]

What are u blasting brah

tren+ halo not sure about doses yet prolly 2mg halo and 25mg tren e e3d?

U dont need to use HCG, in the long run you will lose more of $$ compared to T which would get you way more.

Additionally, you'll be desensitized; it's called tachyphylaxis.

yes but im not trying to have testosterone in my system. its just a “keep my balls alive” question. if i do tren and halo with no test base for 3+ years can i get away from not making breaks and using hcg or wtv?

imma look into tachyphylaxis

 

[ICL]

tren+ halo not sure about doses yet prolly 2mg halo and 25mg tren e e3d?


yes but im not trying to have testosterone in my system. its just a “keep my balls alive” question. if i do tren and halo with no test base for 3+ years can i get away from not making breaks and using hcg or wtv?

imma look into tachyphylaxis

U need a testosterone base regardless

Low T symptoms still appear since ur gonna rape your endocrine production

 

[anondude]

Low t and stronger will make u wanna kill yourself if u las6 months on that id be suprised

 

[infrainfra]

U need a testosterone base regardless

Low T symptoms still appear since ur gonna rape your endocrine production

not rlly. the androgen receptor is still activated regardless of having T or no T. the AAS bind the receptor even stronger. so its not the same as being low t.

 

[infrainfra]

U dont need to use HCG, in the long run you will lose more of $$ compared to T which would get you way more.

A

so back to my main question : do i need to do hcg every ~5-6 weeks to keep “balls alive “ to prevent fibrosis? on a puberty enchantment long blast

 

[ICL]

not rlly. the androgen receptor is still activated regardless of having T or no T. the AAS bind the receptor even stronger. so its not the same as being low t.

that doesn't prevent low tsymptoms because of testosterone metabolites and tren profile which spikes progestrone to doom

 

[ICL]

so back to my main question : do i need to do hcg every ~5-6 weeks to keep “balls alive “ to prevent fibrosis? on a puberty enchantment long blast

No


the only reason ur balls stay alive is bc of LH and FSH sustaining

Taking halo and tren is gonna destroy the lh/fsh, it wont be saved by hcg every now and then

 

[infrainfra]

that doesn't prevent low tsymptoms because of testosterone metabolites and tren profile which spikes progestrone to doom

the only symptoms ill have is 0 e2 symptoms. testosterones loss is compensated by exogenous androgens. my progesterone will be raped due to my hpg axis being shut down. but as far as i remember progesterone might be beneficial. also im planning to microdose tren idk about the dose yet

 

[infrainfra]

No


the only reason ur balls stay alive is bc of LH and FSH sustaining

Taking halo and tren is gonna destroy the lh/fsh, it wont be saved by hcg every now and then

yeah but adding in test wouldn’t help me in this reason. taking test also signals your brain to stop lh/fsh.

so is it chill if i do 3+ years of blasting roids non stop in terms of not causing any long term harm? i mean ISS kids receive halo throughout their development so

 

[Joeseminate]

dawg if everyone is telling you to use test, use test it doesnt even need to do much you can do 150-200 a week cheap as fuck will make you feel way better and tren for 3 years isnt going to work. Use hcg either way for ball atrophy 1-2x a week

 

[infrainfra]

dawg if everyone is telling you to use test, use test it doesnt even need to do much you can do 150-200 a week cheap as fuck will make you feel way better and tren for 3 years isnt going to work. Use hcg either way for ball atrophy 1-2x a week

there is no reason for test besides cognitive maintenance. if i use test i will spike my e2 it ruins my whole heightmaxxing plan

 

[Joeseminate]

there is no reason for test besides cognitive maintenance. if i use test i will spike my e2 it ruins my whole heightmaxxing plan

im guessing this thread is a joke and I fell for the bait

 

[infrainfra]

im guessing this thread is a joke and I fell for the bait

no it isnt lol. give me 2 reasons for adding in testosterone that would benefit me

 

[Joeseminate]

no it isnt lol. give me 2 reasons for adding in testosterone that would benefit me

you are completely right please go run this cycle I was 100% wrong come back with results bhai

 

[infrainfra]

you are completely right please go run this cycle I was 100% wrong come back with results bhai

idk if this is irony or

 

[ICL]

yeah but adding in test wouldn’t help me in this reason. taking test also signals your brain to stop lh/fsh.

Forget about LH/FSH

you're taking tren and halo

They are gone

Testosterone isnt gonna change anything, and it will mostly be marginal. The only reason to take test is to avoid low T symptoms

the only symptoms ill have is 0 e2 symptoms. testosterones loss is compensated by exogenous androgens. my progesterone will be raped due to my hpg axis being shut down. but as far as i remember progesterone might be beneficial. also im planning to microdose tren idk about the dose yet

Fair enough but the androgens dont do everything testosterone does, the metabolites are still missing

 

[infrainfra]

Forget about LH/FSH

you're taking tren and halo

They are gone

Testosterone isnt gonna change anything, and it will mostly be marginal. The only reason to take test is to avoid low T symptoms

Fair enough but the androgens dont do everything testosterone does, the metabolites are still missing

the metabolites like e2 and dht? androgens will cover test and dht. e2 is gone. thats the point. if i respond really bad i will s-equol a ERẞ agonist

 

[infrainfra]

Taking halo and tren is gonna destroy the lh/fsh, it wont be saved by hcg every now and the

then why do some ppl on this forum say blah blah 250 tren and then they say they use hcg every 2 weeks? like is the testicular atrophy REALLY THAT BAD?

 

[ICL]

then why do some ppl on this forum say blah blah 250 tren and then they say they use hcg every 2 weeks? like is the testicular atrophy REALLY THAT BAD?

I'm not sure about fibrosis and if the scar tissue is permanent, but, HCG is not gonna save your balls especially at that freq

 

[infrainfra]

I'm not sure about fibrosis and if the scar tissue is permanent, but, HCG is not gonna save your balls especially at that freq

fuck it imma do that long blast and no hcg. worst case imma just have smaller balls.
was the tachyphylaxis about hgh or my roids?

 

[ICL]

fuck it imma do that long blast and no hcg. worst case imma just have smaller balls.
was the tachyphylaxis about hgh or my roids?

Hcg


Although hgh can get desensitized after like 2-3 years in high dose

 

[infrainfra]

Hcg


Although hgh can get desensitized after like 2-3 years in high dose

ohh i thought u said i will get desensitized from tren and halo AR desensitization so i was wondering what made u say that. im bot doing hcg as ive done more research and testicular atrophy goes back to normal within a year after stopping steroids. spermatogenisis goes back ~ 1 year too. this is without pct too.


about the hgh. the receptors usually resensitize if u pin once daily

 

[ICL]

about the hgh. the receptors usually resensitize if u pin once daily

I thought it would resensitize if you do it EOD rather than daily

hGH desensitization: Why you may not want to inject hGH everyday (heightmaxers GTFIH)

Prevention of Growth Deceleration after Withdrawal of Growth Hormone Therapy in Idiopathic Short Stature Meir Lampit, Ze’ev Hochberg. The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, Volume 87, Issue 8, 1 August 2002, Pages 3573–3577. Published 01 August 2002. The treatment of children with...

looksmax.org

Interesting to read + it's a 2 year time frame, so, could be relevant

 

[infrainfra]

I thought it would resensitize if you do it EOD rather than daily

hGH desensitization: Why you may not want to inject hGH everyday (heightmaxers GTFIH)

Prevention of Growth Deceleration after Withdrawal of Growth Hormone Therapy in Idiopathic Short Stature Meir Lampit, Ze’ev Hochberg. The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism, Volume 87, Issue 8, 1 August 2002, Pages 3573–3577. Published 01 August 2002. The treatment of children with...

looksmax.org

Interesting to read + it's a 2 year time frame, so, could be relevant

even if there was some nuance to pinning eod o would stick to ED. all studies and protocols take a dose before bed ED. amd pinning eod would just mimic having pulses 15 days a month instead everyday. its just so weird.

what stack r u on?

 

[ICL]

even if there was some nuance to pinning eod o would stick to ED. all studies and protocols take a dose before bed ED. amd pinning eod would just mimic having pulses 15 days a month instead everyday. its just so weird.

what stack r u on?

Nothing

 

[teenroider310]

Title

i want to do a 3 year blast with no test base so im scared of doing hcg every 6 weeks or so. i want to wipe out any residual e2 during my teenage years to grow until late ~20s. my ERs are going to be hypersensitive so any e2 in my system (while using hcg) will cause harm and eventually sabotage my aggressive heightmaxxing plan.
Can i get away with not using hcg or anything?



idk who to tag

@SlayerJonas
@aids
@ICL
@Zagro

Retard

 

[Deleted member 163913]

Title

i want to do a 3 year blast with no test base so im scared of doing hcg every 6 weeks or so. i want to wipe out any residual e2 during my teenage years to grow until late ~20s. my ERs are going to be hypersensitive so any e2 in my system (while using hcg) will cause harm and eventually sabotage my aggressive heightmaxxing plan.
Can i get away with not using hcg or anything?



idk who to tag

@SlayerJonas
@aids
@ICL
@Zagro

are u retarded?

 

[Deleted member 163913]

are u retarded?

if u take any anabolic other than hgh u will supress ur hpta and u won't be able to produce test so ur going hypo and its obviously not something u would want so if u want to prevent test for some reason?? just take trt or a cruise dose like 100-200 the usual trt dose or maybe a bit like 250 but inject daily or 5x to keep stable e2 + dht spikes and run into no sides or u can up the test dose and use primo or mast or eq as a ai

 

[infrainfra]

Retard

are u retarded?

Elaborate faggots

 

[Deleted member 163913]

Elaborate faggots

read the reply

 

[infrainfra]

if u take any anabolic other than hgh u will supress ur hpta and u won't be able to produce test so ur going hypo and its obviously not something u would want so if u want to prevent test for some reason?? just take trt or a cruise dose like 100-200 the usual trt dose or maybe a bit like 250 but inject daily or 5x to keep stable e2 + dht spikes and run into no sides or u can up the test dose and use primo or mast or eq as a ai

just stupid asf, i already responded to these typa arguments 5 times. YOU DOMT NEED TESTOSTERONE if you run other stronger androgens like 19 nors or wtv

 

[Deleted member 163913]

just stupid asf, i already responded to these typa arguments 5 times. YOU DOMT NEED TESTOSTERONE if you run other stronger androgens like 19 nors or wtv

even if u use mtren u will still be hypo..

 

[infrainfra]

even if u use mtren u will still be hypo..

so? nigga ur always hypo unless u use hcg. the goal is to be hypo

 

[Deleted member 163913]

just stupid asf, i already responded to these typa arguments 5 times. YOU DOMT NEED TESTOSTERONE if you run other stronger androgens like 19 nors or wtv

what is the goal of doing this anyways cuz 125mg of test will stil not harm u

 

[infrainfra]

what is the goal of doing this anyways cuz 125mg of test will stil not harm u

but will not benefit me in any way and in fact adding in testosterone that aromatizes will spike my estrogen that binds my already hypersensitive ERs from roids and ais

 

[Deleted member 163913]

but will not benefit me in any way and in fact adding in testosterone that aromatizes will spike my estrogen that binds my already hypersensitive ERs from roids and ais

son

 

[Deleted member 163913]

but will not benefit me in any way and in fact adding in testosterone that aromatizes will spike my estrogen that binds my already hypersensitive ERs from roids and ais

yes bro 125mg test will spike ur e2

 

[infrainfra]

yes bro 125mg test will spike ur e2

yes thats around my natural levels prob. spike means put e2 back into my system after my main plan was to nuke it

 

[teenroider310]

Elaborate faggots

Have you ever seen a bee waste their time explaining to flies why honey is better than shit

 

[infrainfra]

Have you ever seen a bee waste their time explaining to flies why honey is better than shit

yeah ok u do ur test and close ur plates ~8 months before they naturally would faggot even if u use whatever dose ai

 

[infrainfra]

I'm not sure about fibrosis and if the scar tissue is permanent, but, HCG is not gonna save your balls especially at that freq

 

[infrainfra]

Hcg


Although hgh can get desensitized after like 2-3 years in high dose

now if i think about it hcg is just useless on cycle since the leydig cells get desensitized and if i do it every 2 weeks it isnt going to do shit. just use it post cycle simce the ball atrophy goes back to baseline a year post blast

 

[introvertedextrover]

Have you ever seen a bee waste their time explaining to flies why honey is better than shit

ok icl you cooked with this one

 

[infrainfra]

ok icl you cooked with this one

no he didnt hes a degenerate