Can we get a blast & cruise guide?

[Schönling]

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should include everything from cruise length to keeping fertility etc.

 

[Shadosh101]

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should include everything from cruise length to keeping fertility etc.

just watch vigorous steve and mpmd

 

[5.5psl]

just watch vigorous steve and mpmd

I hate mpmd
Nobody should take his videos seriously he literally recommends 250 mg for first cycle JFL
Heavily underdoses everything just to sound high IQ to his audience

 

[Shadosh101]

I hate mpmd
Nobody should take his videos seriously he literally recommends 250 mg for first cycle JFL
Heavily underdoses everything just to sound high IQ to his audience

he preaches minimal effective dose instead of retarded doses for first cycles, he preaches actual safe PED use instead of "take 500mg test with dbol kickstart", hes much smarter about PEDs than anyone else on this forum jfl

 

[SoundnVision]

I hate mpmd
Nobody should take his videos seriously he literally recommends 250 mg for first cycle JFL
Heavily underdoses everything just to sound high IQ to his audience

If you cant look good on 250mg you won't ever look good on 500 either and you will have alot more side effects at higher doses so he's actually right.

 

[anoncell]

use a different forum where there's more educated people for it

 

[TFWnoCatgirl]

use a different forum where there's more educated people for it

r/steroids is unironically very informative

 

[Gluteus]

If you cant look good on 250mg you won't ever look good on 500 either and you will have alot more side effects at higher doses so he's actually right.

He's arguably right in the health, longevity, and sides management perspective. Most roid users here are looking to get a top tier physique ASAP so that they can maximize their chances of getting laid. A 250mg cycle is excruciatingly slow from their perspective.

 

[Deleted member 27472]

If you cant look good on 250mg you won't ever look good on 500 either and you will have alot more side effects at higher doses so he's actually right.

You do realise 500mg is a beginner dose? Most people can run that for months upon months and there bloodwork won’t even be bad. Even @Blackgymmax will agree. 250 is TRT for some people. Shutting yourself down for 250 test is utterly stupid. the funny thing is Derek didn’t even build his physique off low doses. He’s only pushing low doses to be a good role model

Most body builders run grams upon grams of gear.

 

[Blackgymmax]

You do realise 500mg is a beginner dose? Most people can run that for months upon months and there bloodwork won’t even be bad. Even @Blackgymmax will agree. 250 is TRT for some people. Shutting yourself down for 250 test is utterly stupid. the funny thing is Derek didn’t even build his physique off low doses. He’s only pushing low doses to be a good role model

Most body builders run grams upon grams of gear.

1.5-2g is bodybuilder dose

 

[Deleted member 24002]

If you hop on gear without 2 years of natty gains you’re stupid

 

[Deleted member 27472]

1.5-2g is bodybuilder dose

Yeah agreed and guys expect to look like you running 250 or 500 lol. If you get sides from 500 test roids aren’t roid for you @SoundnVision

 

[Blackgymmax]

Yeah agreed and guys expect to look like you running 250 or 500 lol. If you get sides from 500 test roids aren’t roid for you @SoundnVision

Lul sides from 500mgs hahahaha

 

[5.5psl]

he preaches minimal effective dose instead of retarded doses for first cycles, he preaches actual safe PED use instead of "take 500mg test with dbol kickstart", hes much smarter about PEDs than anyone else on this forum jfl

500 mg with dbol is actually the best cycle to start with and then up the dosage when you hit a plateau

 

[Deleted member 27472]

500 mg with dbol is actually the best cycle to start with and then up the dosage when you hit a plateau

Don’t you think running dbol at the start with Test could be hard to manage E2 for a beginner

 

[Gluteus]

Don’t you think running dbol at the start with Test could be hard to manage E2 for a beginner

Dbol at a reasonable dosage isn't going to typically cause crazy estrogen sides. A minority of users can feel like absolute shit on Dbol though. Tren and Superdrol have always had milder sides for me when compared to Dbol. Tbol is probably a safer bet for a first time user.

 

[SoundnVision]

You do realise 500mg is a beginner dose? Most people can run that for months upon months and there bloodwork won’t even be bad. Even @Blackgymmax will agree. 250 is TRT for some people. Shutting yourself down for 250 test is utterly stupid. the funny thing is Derek didn’t even build his physique off low doses. He’s only pushing low doses to be a good role model

Most body builders run grams upon grams of gear.

80mg is trt 250 is a cycle .
And some people blow up on 250 so 500 wouldn't be needed

 

[Moggable]

r/steroids is unironically very informative

One of the only based places on Reddit consists of roid abusers. Not a coincidence.

 

[Shadosh101]

500 mg with dbol is actually the best cycle to start with and then up the dosage when you hit a plateau

i actually cant tell if youre trolling jfl

 

[5.5psl]

i actually cant tell if youre trolling jfl

Bro I'm serious
Read this thread of mine : https://looksmax.org/threads/literally-feeling-normal-on-500-mg-test-jfl.696565/