Can we still not shorten midface in 2023?

[Tasty17]

I cut the edges off and now just have a plat piece of silicon that i clench on.

Can you take a picture? I’d be grateful.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Can you take a picture? I’d be grateful.

 

[Tasty17]

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What's the reason for that? Any difference compared to the original upper mouthguard?

 

[Deleted member 21044]

What's the reason for that? Any difference compared to the original upper mouthguard?

It was too narrow.

 

[Tasty17]

It was too narrow.

Chad. How long are you chewing on it? Do you think a single upper mouthguard is enough to shorten midface?

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Chad. How long are you chewing on it? Do you think a single upper mouthguard is enough to shorten midface?

Few days. It already fucked up my molars, pushed them up into alveola.

But the 3mm shortening was from light clenching without mouthguard for about two months.

 

[Tasty17]

Few days. It already fucked up my molars, pushed them up into alveola.

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But the 3mm shortening was from light clenching without mouthguard for about two months.

I naturally clench. So the mouthguard f* up your molars? Why do you continue?

 

[Deleted member 21044]

I naturally clench. So the mouthguard f* up your molars? Why do you continue?

I will balance it out.

 

[Tasty17]

I will balance it out.

How do you intend to balance it out? Thanks man.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

How do you intend to balance it out? Thanks man.

Frontclecnhing/forward clenching.

 

[Deleted member 18594]

Yes.

While clenching is it necessary to keep proper body-neck posture or can you be slouched?

 

[Deleted member 21044]

While clenching is it necessary to keep proper body-neck posture or can you be slouched?

Not too important but forward head posture will lead to less ccwr.

 

[Tasty17]

Frontclecnhing/forward clenching.

You seriously need to make a guide for us incels and save us from depression.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Ye same midface ratio as me tbh
OBO is an option
With wider ipd my midface looks fine at like 0.95

 

[Tasty17]

Ye same midface ratio as me tbh
OBO is an option
With wider ipd my midface looks fine at like 0.95

It's brutal how rare OBO is. I haven't seen a single before-after on here.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

It's brutal how rare OBO is. I haven't seen a single before-after on here.

There was that one by @CosmicMaxxer with pics of just eye area. But it didn't look that good

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

There was that one by @CosmicMaxxer with pics of just eye area. But it didn't look that good

He just went overboard and added too much when all he needed was 3-4mm but honestly it looks like the surgery went well with no bad side-effects.

 

[MadTwatter]

One of the most important things that gives a face harmony.

I sit at 0.88-0.90 which is brutal…

Clench your jaws and grind your teeth
I'm amazed how feckless people wander through life with nothing worth stressing about. Like do you have a job? a relationship? any kind of deadline? or are you just on autopilot all day?

 

[Deleted member 18879]

Clench your jaws and grind your teeth
I'm amazed how feckless people wander through life with nothing worth stressing about. Like do you have a job? a relationship? any kind of deadline? or are you just on autopilot all day?

ive been neet for 7 years

 

[Tasty17]

Clench your jaws and grind your teeth
I'm amazed how feckless people wander through life with nothing worth stressing about. Like do you have a job? a relationship? any kind of deadline? or are you just on autopilot all day?

I do that already.

 

[Tasty17]

He just went overboard and added too much when all he needed was 3-4mm but honestly it looks like the surgery went well with no bad side-effects.

Can you post the eyes?

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

Can you post the eyes?

It's on his thread if you look through it you'll find it in <5 mins. Just type looksmaxx obo cosmicmaxxer on google to find it. "actual box osteotomy patient..." is the name.

 

[Jerryterry129]

Few days. It already fucked up my molars, pushed them up into alveola.

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But the 3mm shortening was from light clenching without mouthguard for about two months.

Dude ur getting the exact opposite

I’m 99.999% sure You’re making your midface longer by clenching the molars

You’re doing the opposite of what you want to do

Clenching the front teeth will make your midface shorter

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Dude ur getting the exact opposite

I’m 99.999% sure You’re making your midface longer by clenching the molars

You’re doing the opposite of what you want to do

Clenching the front teeth will make your midface shorter

It's the first step in realignment. Molars are just the first to react. The other teeth then follow. It's impossible to lengthen midface by clenching.

 

[Jerryterry129]

It's the first step in realignment. Molars are just the first to react. The other teeth then follow. It's impossible to lengthen midface by clenching.

If you put pressure on the back of the maxilla/molar area it will cause the back of the maxilla to rotate giving you a longer midface

It’s happened to people all the time. You’re giving yourself a longer midface

 

[Deleted member 21044]

If you put pressure on the back of the maxilla/molar area it will cause the back of the maxilla to rotate giving you a longer midface

It’s happened to people all the time. You’re giving yourself a longer midface

That would apply if you put pressure only on the molars, which isn't possible. I put pressure on the whole arch, molars are just the first in the line. Others follow. The whole maxilla shortens, all teeth move up.

 

[Whatashame]

One of the most important things that gives a face harmony.

I sit at 0.88-0.90 which is brutal…

90% of gl males have a midface between 0.9 and 0.96.

 

[Whatashame]

hahahahaha

btw my midface is like 0.95-0.96 and i am called a horseface frequently. brutal

it probably isnt, u just dont know how to measure

 

[Whatashame]

That would apply if you put pressure only on the molars, which isn't possible. I put pressure on the whole arch, molars are just the first in the line. Others follow. The whole maxilla shortens, all teeth move up.

You are just affecting the teeth, not the maxilla. Max you can do is to lose bone density.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

You are just affecting the teeth, not the maxilla. Max you can do is to lose bone density.

POWERFUL WHITEPILL: bruxism & ramus lengthening through alveolar remodeling (gonial angle correction)

Ima keep it short. The alveola is very malleable. Teeth can shift in it, both sideways and up/down. This is the core principle of orthodontics. Apllying pressure on molars will remodel the underlying alveola and subsequently the mandibular body in a way to support the tooth root, which...

looksmax.org

 

[Whatashame]

POWERFUL WHITEPILL: bruxism & ramus lengthening through alveolar remodeling (gonial angle correction)

Ima keep it short. The alveola is very malleable. Teeth can shift in it, both sideways and up/down. This is the core principle of orthodontics. Apllying pressure on molars will remodel the underlying alveola and subsequently the mandibular body in a way to support the tooth root, which...

looksmax.org

Just linked to a post made by urself that says the same thing, without any evidence whatsoever, not even the scientific article name.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Just linked to a post made by urself that says the same thing, without any evidence whatsoever, not even the scientific article name.

Redditor alert.

 

[Whatashame]

Redditor alert.

sure, redditor lol. Go irl and talk the things you talk, without any proof and with bad argumentations no one will take u seriously

 

[Deleted member 21044]

sure, redditor lol. Go irl and talk the things you talk, without any proof and with bad argumentations no one will take u seriously

Bone apposition at the mandibular angles as a radiological sign of bruxism: a retrospective study - BMC Oral Health

Background The main objective of this investigation was to determine on panoramic radiographs the prevalence of macroscopically visible alterations (bone apposition in combination with directional change) in the mandibular angle region in bruxism patients. Another aim was to describe and detect...

bmcoralhealth.biomedcentral.com

 

[Deleted member 8758]

Mirin nordic skull

Hallstatt culture, its proto celtic, mostly central european

 

[LebenistneHure]

That's terrible.
I have a 1:1 midface ratio

Again. Who. The. Fuck. Asked?

 

[Deleted member 21765]

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How many hours a day do you clench on it?

 

[Deleted member 21044]

How many hours a day do you clench on it?

Idk i clench when i can.

 

[bobsmith03]

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yo what are these scans called?

 

[Maalik]

Show more forehead + increase the size of your jaw, especially mandible is the only thing you can do to harmonise.
Straight up surgical reduction of midface seems like a botch minefield