Can you still get a girlfriend if your MTN ?

I agree mostly but discussing over rating is fckin pointless.

And yes the ppl here called chad are mostly htn max

Some are valid tho

Amnesia chad. Topzcat high tier chadlite. Ooga chadlite.
ooga, gaslighting rat as well as biggdink and some of these other users.

but srsly yeah there are some alrigth looking people obviously, i thibk peiple just make too big a deal of this rating stuff
 
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I agree mostly but discussing over rating is fckin pointless.

And yes the ppl here called chad are mostly htn max

Some are valid tho
Amnesia is prolly 5.5 PSL range tbh. He barely looks 6 PSL in cherrypicked frauded pictures.

TopzCat is HTN. Long midface and nose failo him hard. He frauds his pics too in case you haven't noticed.

No one here is a true chad in terms of appeal to western women. It's virtually impossible for someone with chad level looks to end up here.
 
ooga, gaslighting rat as well as biggdink and some of these other users.

but srsly yeah there are some alrigth looking people obviously, i thibk peiple just make too big a deal of this rating stuff
What do you mean gaslight? Ooga is a solid lad. Don’t know much about biggdink
 
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What do you mean gaslight? Ooga is a solid lad. Don’t know much about biggdink
its a joke since they often post muh im normie or ugly and i can get with women or whatever

Biggdink is blackpilled af though. Its just a meme most of his threads here
 
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Amnesia is prolly 5.5 PSL range tbh. He barely looks 6 PSL in cherrypicked frauded pictures.

TopzCat is HTN. Long midface and nose failo him hard. He frauds his pics too in case you haven't noticed.

No one here is a true chad in terms of appeal to western women. It's virtually impossible for someone with chad level looks to end up here.
Bro like no offense but you’re mad autistic.


Who gives a shit you know? Let them be htn, chad, flying car. Who cares.

Don’t focus on that bs. Improve yourself as best as you can
 
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Bro like no offense but you’re mad autistic.


Who gives a shit you know? Let them be htn, chad, flying car. Who cares.

Don’t focus on that bs. Improve yourself as best as you can
preach
 
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Bro like no offense but you’re mad autistic.


Who gives a shit you know? Let them be htn, chad, flying car. Who cares.

Don’t focus on that bs. Improve yourself as best as you can
Says the guy who called triggered and fatmaxxed subhuman JFL.
 
Says the guy who called triggered and fatmaxxed subhuman JFL.
Yeah I still think they are. But I’m not gonna invest hours upon hours arguing if they are.

I have my opinion and that’s it.
 
its a joke since they often post muh im normie or ugly and i can get with women or whatever

Biggdink is blackpilled af though. Its just a meme most of his threads here
Yeah. I figured. Some people like to gaslight truecels for the lols.

He even admits it's over for most of the indians here.
 
Yeah. I figured. Some people like to gaslight truecels for the lols.

He even admits it's over for most of the indians here.
i talk to him every day on discord jfl.

and ye like two years agi he used to post a lot of phenopill shit but he kept getting flamed then jfl

so now he does this clown shit.
 
i talk to him every day on discord jfl.

and ye like two years agi he used to post a lot of phenopill shit but he kept getting flamed then jfl

so now he does this clown shit.
Racepill is the most brutal pill tbh. Even light skin doesn't save me from it.
 
i talk to him every day on discord jfl.

and ye like two years agi he used to post a lot of phenopill shit but he kept getting flamed then jfl

so now he does this clown shit.
biggdink's shit isn't even funny smh
 
pakicel a little slow ngl
He can either spend thousand of dollars and years of effort to ascend to 5.5 PSL or just escortcel. The latter seems a lot more straightforward.
 
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He can either spend thousand of dollars and years of effort to ascend to 5.5 PSL or just escortcel. The latter seems a lot more straightforward.
idk bro okay go fo that, have fun idk
 
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He can either spend thousand of dollars and years of effort to ascend to 5.5 PSL or just escortcel. The latter seems a lot more straightforward.
@Korea thots
 
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If you're looksmaxxing specifically to get women. Escortmaxxing only makes sense.
But you still need to find something affordable. 1 hour with a stacy escort costs 500 dollars where I live. Betabuxxing is more cost effective but you gotta play emotional tampon etc.
 
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If you're looksmaxxing specifically to get women. Escortmaxxing only makes sense.
ok but i cant looksmax beyond 5.622 psl so whats the point
 
Yes it is only non-NT people that never had a gf even 2/10 guys have had girlfriends, 99% of men get a girlfriend at some point in their life

Looks theory is cope in LTRs guys can punch higher than their looks
Demographics pill too like @FailedNormieManlet I never got abgf in school coz the girls who wanted me o didn't find attractive due to high standards.
Looking back I should've swallowed my pride and what other people thought and just dated them tbh esp as they were really into me
 
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There is no point. 6 PSL + or death.

The rope is to the left.
No one ascends that hard. To be 6 PSL, you need top tier eye area and lower third, which surgery can't get you.
 
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No one ascends that hard. To be 6 PSL, you need top tier eye area and lower third, which surgery can't get you.
How hard do you think someone can ascend?

Most people lack the eye area definetly, but a lot of people can get better lower3rd's off leanmaxxing alone.
 
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How hard do you think someone can ascend?

Most people lack the eye area definetly, but a lot of people can get better lower3rd's off leanmaxxing alone.
eye area can be ascended by improving brows lashes and wearing contacts assuming you have average eyes to 5.5 PSL
dk about lower thirds lot of people I see lack the base but there are also a lot that do have a good base. All in all lower third is easy to ascend with implants or other surgeries.

I say average 4 PSL boyo can ascend .75 psl with softmaxxes and like .25 to .75 PSL more with hardmaxxes totalling out to 5-5.5 PSL looksmaxxed
 
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Bro as a fellow minority you should know especially that basically every ugly ethnic has had relationships with girls of his race, at least that.

No it isn't, where do you live where it's like this? Most people are fucking UGLY, they live good lives and have gfs through being NT and socially competent.

Unless you are in some high-class city in chadstralia there is no way that HTN is average JFL you need to open your eyes.


Black guy dating above his weight



Ethnic dating above his weight



White man dating above his weight



And I used girls of the same race each time so you can't say muh "different races of girls like different things" JFL cope destroyed

Nah they're all looksmatched because of fakeup.

Slap there face with this a few times and they'll literally descend 3 points :lul:
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1646849880389
 
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How hard do you think someone can ascend?

Most people lack the eye area definetly, but a lot of people can get better lower3rd's off leanmaxxing alone.
Depends on your failos and starting point.

Some people are ugly due to dogshit pheno and weird facial proportions. Nothing can help them, not even surgery.

Some are just tall white guys who are fat. They can go from truecel to chad by losing weight.

Others are otherwise normies with mostly average features but one or two bad features like jaw or nose, which can be fixed with surgery. They can go from below average to MTN-HTN.

The only people who can ascend from normie to chad are people with top tier eye area, ratios and phenotype but have giga recessed jaws or something. In these cases, something like bimax can be lifechanging.

But all in all. Improving your looks by any significant amount is hard af and not always possible.
 
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eye area can be ascended by improving brows lashes and wearing contacts assuming you have average eyes to 5.5 PSL
dk about lower thirds lot of people I see lack the base but there are also a lot that do have a good base. All in all lower third is easy to ascend with implants or other surgeries.

I say average 4 PSL boyo can ascend .75 psl with softmaxxes and like .25 to .75 PSL more with hardmaxxes totalling out to 5-5.5 PSL looksmaxxed

Depends on why your eye area is bad. If you have dogshit PFL and canthal tilt, then you will never had a good eye area.

Implant results are mostly dogshit and bloatmax you. Fillers can work but they are temporary. Both cannot replicate natural chad bone structure.

I'd say 1 PSL at the very most on average.
 
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you raised your standards from 5.623 to 6 psl a minute ago not hard to imagine you'll raise the bar even higher in a short time
 
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you raised your standards from 5.623 to 6 psl a minute ago not hard to imagine you'll raise the bar even higher in a short time
Oh yea. It's alread 6.192.

That's when life starts.
 
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you're right knowing the hoe @Korea is he'll make em 6.5 PSL next week

5.5 PSL doesn't betabux :rolleyes:
Light betabuxxing. Like buying presents for her on bdays and valentines day. Also, being her emotional tampon and delusionmaxxing her to think she fogs VS models. This only applies for 5.5 PSL dudes dating up.
 
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Depends on why your eye area is bad. If you have dogshit PFL and canthal tilt, then you will never had a good eye area.
agreed
Implant results are mostly dogshit and bloatmax you. Fillers can work but they are temporary. Both cannot replicate natural chad bone structure.
from what i've seen they either ascend you alot or barely make a diference. It's normal for implants to cause bloat the first few months though.
I'd say 1 PSL at the very most on average.
makes sense
 
Light betabuxxing. Like buying presents for her on bdays and valentines day. Also, being her emotional tampon and delusionmaxxing her to think she fogs VS models. This only applies for 5.5 PSL dudes dating up.
That's just cucked I would rather date a 5-5.5 PSL hoe instead of a 6 PSL if it means I have to gaybestfriendmax for her
 
Oh yea. It's alread 6.192.

That's when life starts.
I think you've already cucked yourself by your standards
if not then itll happen the next time
 
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