Canine Fossa and the 2 Types of Hollow Cheeks

[thecel]

Have you ever noticed there're 2 kinds of hollow cheeks?

It isn't just lighting; it's all a matter of canine fossa. How deep the canine fossa is.

Here's the range of canine fossa depths from shallow (left) to deep (right):

Shallow canine fossa hollow cheeks:

Deep canine fossa hollow cheeks:

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(PDF) The canine fossa and the evolution of the midface in humans

PDF | Citation: The canine fossa and the evolution of the midface in humans[J]. Abstract: The canine fossa is an important feature in the facial... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

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Fig.1 Variability of the canine fossa in current humans From left to...

Download scientific diagram | Variability of the canine fossa in current humans From left to right: little expanded and shallow canine fossa (Y1 CAH86 EXP-ESTE -photo Q.W.); expanded and shallow (LPPMANC collection -photo F.R.T.); expanded and relatively deep (SON 02.03.21 -photo A.J.A.E.)...

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[Deleted member 11748]

No its just the lighting. i forgot the models name, but his hollowing looks normal in other pics

 

[Deleted member 11748]

ok found it his name is John James Todd

^Normal hollow cheeks

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

isn't that high cheekbones vs low cheekbones? high cheekbone is masculine

 

[thecel]

isn't that high cheekbones vs low cheekbones? high cheekbone is masculine

Low IQ

Can't you see how the cheekbones connect to the maxilla smoothly with shallow canine fossae forming a single unit, while deep canine fossae cause inward depressions that create separations between the bottoms of the cheekbones and the maxilla?

 

[zeke714]

isn't that high cheekbones vs low cheekbones? high cheekbone is masculine

No, both are high. Just the bone mass are different.

Shallow mogs because v-shape cheeks

 

[thecel]

No, both are high. Just the bone mass are different.

Shallow mogs because v-shape cheeks

Deep is more masculine imo

 

[AlwaysHaveQuestions]

Low IQ

Can't you see how the cheekbones connect to the maxilla smoothly with shallow canine fossae forming a singular unit, while deep canine fossae cause inward depressions that create a separation between the bottoms of the cheekbones and the maxilla?

yea i see now. possible application of this knowledge is to do bone reduction in that area?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Looks like I have deep

 

[zeke714]

Deep is more masculine imo

The problem is You can't see any angularity in Deep. Shallow mogs because v-shape cheeks are visible to the naked eye.

 

[AcneScars]

Wouldn’t greater lower maxillary projection give the illusion of having a deeper fossa?

 

[Deleted member 9670]

deep canine fossa mogs hard

 

[Deleted member 9670]

your iq is wasted on this forum

 

[Deleted member 9670]

Looks like I have deep

chadpreet once again

 

[RealSurgerymax]

Actually deep canine fossa can cause nasolabial folds I dont think its a good look:

I accidentally forgot to remove the quotes when I responded above:

What are the best interventions to have, in order to correct mild Nasolabial folds long-term?

Fillers<Fat grafts

Kybella injections when this has to do with with resistant fat mounds over the nasolabial folds

Midface lift when it is because of aging but probably a cover up that won’t last long if you are in your 20s or 30s

Jaw advancement surgery will help if the right osteotomies are made and correct V-Y closure is performed

Nasolabial malar fat pad liposuction if, again having to do with resistant fat mounds over the nasolabial fold. For liposuction if this area you need to have a lot of fat here, if you don’t lypolysis injections are best.

Subcision does not work well.

And adding:

If due to a deep canine Fossa, a new way to deal with this is bone augmentation with bone grafts using a Allogenic 50/50 cortical-cancellous bone chips in a PRF membrane graft with cortical punctures for vascularization. This replaces paranasal implants which are also an option but seem too close to alveolar bone for my comfort.

 

[thecel]

Wouldn’t greater lower maxillary projection give the illusion of having a deeper fossa?

Yes I guess that's why Black people apparently have deeper fossae

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

Have you ever noticed there're 2 kinds of hollow cheeks?

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It isn't just lighting; it's all a matter of canine fossa. How deep the canine fossa is.

Here's the range of canine fossa depths from shallow (left) to deep (right):

View attachment 1094466

Shallow canine fossa hollow cheeks:

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Deep canine fossa hollow cheeks:

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(PDF) The canine fossa and the evolution of the midface in humans

PDF | Citation: The canine fossa and the evolution of the midface in humans[J]. Abstract: The canine fossa is an important feature in the facial... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

Fig.1 Variability of the canine fossa in current humans From left to...

Download scientific diagram | Variability of the canine fossa in current humans From left to right: little expanded and shallow canine fossa (Y1 CAH86 EXP-ESTE -photo Q.W.); expanded and shallow (LPPMANC collection -photo F.R.T.); expanded and relatively deep (SON 02.03.21 -photo A.J.A.E.)...

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Nice observation. @Soalian brought this up in anither thread but I don’t remember in what context. Imo deep canine fossa mogs hard due to looking brutally animalistic. Shaloow looks polished pretty boy tbh. Alain delon for example looks dangerous even though he’s comparatively small.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@thecel at high bfs deep canines make you look bloated and your cheekbones look worse no?

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

@thecel at high bfs deep canines make you look bloated and your cheekbones look worse no?

@thecel pls tag me in the answer to this question

 

[Deleted member 2748]

aren't deep canine fossae more prone to developing nasolabial folds ? good thread btw

 

[LastHopeForNorman]

Yes I guess that's why Black people apparently have deeper fossae

So if i have advancment lefort 1 i would have ilusion of deep canine fosa?

 

[thecel]

@thecel at high bfs deep canines make you look bloated and your cheekbones look worse no?

@thecel pls tag me in the answer to this question

@AsGoodAsItGets @PrestonYnot

I don’t understand how it’d make you look bloated.

can u explain why you suspect that’s the case?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@AsGoodAsItGets @PrestonYnot

I don’t understand how it’d make you look bloated.

can u explain why you suspect that’s the case?

Deeper canines mean more space for fat to build up. Making the cheekbones look like potatoes at high bfs also fwrd growth is what prevents sagging of soft tissues .Just an assumption tho. I might be completely wrong

 

[N1c]

Another good high IQ tread from you. I think that shallow canine fossa mogs. I think i have deep canine fossa but it is hard to see since i am a bit rescesd

 

[LastHopeForNorman]

So i have shallow canine fossa right?

 

[Babushkacatlady]

 

[zeke714]

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A big difference in cheekbones and a subtle difference in nose projection, other than that everything else looks the same.

 

[Deleted member 6128]

So i have shallow canine fossa right?
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Not even shallow they’re just normal

 

[Deleted member 6128]

Nice thread but I think shallow mogs it looks more aesthetic although deep looks more masculine

 

[Deleted member 12611]

No its just the lighting. i forgot the models name, but his hollowing looks normal in other pics

The 2nd type happens when light is above and to the side of you with the shadow being cast by cheekbones forwards and down, the first when the light is above and in front of you, with a shadow being cast by the cheekbones backwards and down. This is my experience when looking in the mirror.

This also shows what I am saying.

 

[thecel]

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It looks like they moved the parts of the maxilla around the sides of the nose and kept the nose in the same position, no?

 

[Babushkacatlady]

It looks like they moved the parts of the maxilla around the sides of the nose and kept the nose in the same position, no?

I think so. The nose does tend to change shape too but it isn't shown here.

 

[StrangerDanger]

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Curious, what does O'Pry have? He doesn't have that broad curve like the 3nd image, his is a bit sunken in like in the 1/2nd pic except more prominient at the zygos. Is it because they are much higher? He has a pretty good maxilla

 

[zeke714]

Is there a way to tell if its shallow or deep without leanmaxxing or x-ray?

 

[Deleted member 685]

Fuck is canine fossa

 

[Deleted member 4562]

Actually surprised there is so much disagreement, shallow mogs hard and it's not even close tbh, it's what literally everyone thinks about when you say hollow cheeks

 

[Mewton]

Actually surprised there is so much disagreement, shallow mogs hard and it's not even close tbh, it's what literally everyone thinks about when you say hollow cheeks

Deep mogs imo it gives impression of mogger undereye support

 

[Prettyboy]

What type are mine?
https://looksmax.org/threads/my-lower-third-training-routine.437193/
#4

 

[RoundHouse]

What type are mine?
https://looksmax.org/threads/my-lower-third-training-routine.437193/
#4

1st pic, i got the second one, probably depends more on lighting tho mate

 

[Deleted member 15099]

Have you ever noticed there're 2 kinds of hollow cheeks?

View attachment 1094464

It isn't just lighting; it's all a matter of canine fossa. How deep the canine fossa is.

Here's the range of canine fossa depths from shallow (left) to deep (right):

View attachment 1094466

Shallow canine fossa hollow cheeks:

View attachment 1094468View attachment 1094469View attachment 1094470View attachment 1094471View attachment 1094472View attachment 1094490View attachment 1094492

Deep canine fossa hollow cheeks:

View attachment 1094476View attachment 1094477View attachment 1094478View attachment 1094479View attachment 1094483View attachment 1094485View attachment 1094487

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(PDF) The canine fossa and the evolution of the midface in humans

PDF | Citation: The canine fossa and the evolution of the midface in humans[J]. Abstract: The canine fossa is an important feature in the facial... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

Fig.1 Variability of the canine fossa in current humans From left to...

Download scientific diagram | Variability of the canine fossa in current humans From left to right: little expanded and shallow canine fossa (Y1 CAH86 EXP-ESTE -photo Q.W.); expanded and shallow (LPPMANC collection -photo F.R.T.); expanded and relatively deep (SON 02.03.21 -photo A.J.A.E.)...

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I have deep canine fossa then

 

[Deleted member 15305]

The second guy in other lighting:

 

[Entschuldigung]

I have the second type

 

[Vermilioncore]

I have the Alain demon type cheeks

 

[WhiteGoodman]

2nd look more robust imo.

 

[Deleted member 3679]

Both look good but shallow better for aging

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

Have you ever noticed there're 2 kinds of hollow cheeks?

View attachment 1094464

It isn't just lighting; it's all a matter of canine fossa. How deep the canine fossa is.

Here's the range of canine fossa depths from shallow (left) to deep (right):

View attachment 1094466

Shallow canine fossa hollow cheeks:

View attachment 1094468View attachment 1094469View attachment 1094470View attachment 1094471View attachment 1094472View attachment 1094490View attachment 1094492

Deep canine fossa hollow cheeks:

View attachment 1094476View attachment 1094477View attachment 1094478View attachment 1094479View attachment 1094483View attachment 1094485View attachment 1094487

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(PDF) The canine fossa and the evolution of the midface in humans

PDF | Citation: The canine fossa and the evolution of the midface in humans[J]. Abstract: The canine fossa is an important feature in the facial... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

Fig.1 Variability of the canine fossa in current humans From left to...

Download scientific diagram | Variability of the canine fossa in current humans From left to right: little expanded and shallow canine fossa (Y1 CAH86 EXP-ESTE -photo Q.W.); expanded and shallow (LPPMANC collection -photo F.R.T.); expanded and relatively deep (SON 02.03.21 -photo A.J.A.E.)...

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Deep mogs. Shallow can sometimes make your face appear more narrow whereas deep never will.

 

[GorLee]

Deep mogs imo because you look much more dangerous

 

[pwettyboijens]

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is right more forward or left

 

[Birdcell]

Lighting + position thing
Next thread please

 

[pwettyboijens]

Have you ever noticed there're 2 kinds of hollow cheeks?

View attachment 1094464

It isn't just lighting; it's all a matter of canine fossa. How deep the canine fossa is.

Here's the range of canine fossa depths from shallow (left) to deep (right):

View attachment 1094466

Shallow canine fossa hollow cheeks:

View attachment 1094468View attachment 1094469View attachment 1094470View attachment 1094471View attachment 1094472View attachment 1094490View attachment 1094492

Deep canine fossa hollow cheeks:

View attachment 1094476View attachment 1094477View attachment 1094478View attachment 1094479View attachment 1094483View attachment 1094485View attachment 1094487

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(PDF) The canine fossa and the evolution of the midface in humans

PDF | Citation: The canine fossa and the evolution of the midface in humans[J]. Abstract: The canine fossa is an important feature in the facial... | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

Fig.1 Variability of the canine fossa in current humans From left to...

Download scientific diagram | Variability of the canine fossa in current humans From left to right: little expanded and shallow canine fossa (Y1 CAH86 EXP-ESTE -photo Q.W.); expanded and shallow (LPPMANC collection -photo F.R.T.); expanded and relatively deep (SON 02.03.21 -photo A.J.A.E.)...

www.researchgate.net

why do i have the shallow type then even tho my canine fossa is deep