Theory Canine Fossa and the 2 Types of Hollow Cheeks

What kind of canine fossa mogs?

  • Shallow canine fossa

    Votes: 28 46.7%
  • Deep canine fossa

    Votes: 32 53.3%

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Have you ever noticed there're 2 kinds of hollow cheeks?



It isn't just lighting; it's all a matter of canine fossa. How deep the canine fossa is.

Here's the range of canine fossa depths from shallow (left) to deep (right):



Shallow canine fossa hollow cheeks:



Deep canine fossa hollow cheeks:






 
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AlwaysHaveQuestions said:
isn't that high cheekbones vs low cheekbones? high cheekbone is masculine

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Can't you see how the cheekbones connect to the maxilla smoothly with shallow canine fossae forming a single unit, while deep canine fossae cause inward depressions that create separations between the bottoms of the cheekbones and the maxilla?
 
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good thread. I always knew that the david laid type hollow cheeks were impossible for me because I didn't have that bone projection around the nose area but I never bothered to look into what it was
 
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thecel said:
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Can't you see how the cheekbones connect to the maxilla smoothly with shallow canine fossae forming a singular unit, while deep canine fossae cause inward depressions that create a separation between the bottoms of the cheekbones and the maxilla?
yea i see now. possible application of this knowledge is to do bone reduction in that area?
 
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Actually deep canine fossa can cause nasolabial folds I dont think its a good look:

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I accidentally forgot to remove the quotes when I responded above:

What are the best interventions to have, in order to correct mild Nasolabial folds long-term?

Fillers<Fat grafts

Kybella injections when this has to do with with resistant fat mounds over the nasolabial folds

Midface lift when it is because of aging but probably a cover up that won’t last long if you are in your 20s or 30s

Jaw advancement surgery will help if the right osteotomies are made and correct V-Y closure is performed

Nasolabial malar fat pad liposuction if, again having to do with resistant fat mounds over the nasolabial fold. For liposuction if this area you need to have a lot of fat here, if you don’t lypolysis injections are best.

Subcision does not work well.

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If due to a deep canine Fossa, a new way to deal with this is bone augmentation with bone grafts using a Allogenic 50/50 cortical-cancellous bone chips in a PRF membrane graft with cortical punctures for vascularization. This replaces paranasal implants which are also an option but seem too close to alveolar bone for my comfort.
 
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thecel said:
Have you ever noticed there're 2 kinds of hollow cheeks?

View attachment 1094464

It isn't just lighting; it's all a matter of canine fossa. How deep the canine fossa is.

Here's the range of canine fossa depths from shallow (left) to deep (right):

View attachment 1094466

Shallow canine fossa hollow cheeks:

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Deep canine fossa hollow cheeks:

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Nice observation. Soalian @Soalian brought this up in anither thread but I don’t remember in what context. Imo deep canine fossa mogs hard due to looking brutally animalistic. Shaloow looks polished pretty boy tbh. Alain delon for example looks dangerous even though he’s comparatively small.
 
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PrestonYnot said:
thecel @thecel at high bfs deep canines make you look bloated and your cheekbones look worse no?
thecel @thecel pls tag me in the answer to this question
 
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PrestonYnot said:
thecel @thecel at high bfs deep canines make you look bloated and your cheekbones look worse no?
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thecel @thecel pls tag me in the answer to this question

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I don’t understand how it’d make you look bloated.

can u explain why you suspect that’s the case?
 
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thecel said:
AsGoodAsItGets @AsGoodAsItGets Preston @PrestonYnot

I don’t understand how it’d make you look bloated.

can u explain why you suspect that’s the case?
Deeper canines mean more space for fat to build up. Making the cheekbones look like potatoes at high bfs also fwrd growth is what prevents sagging of soft tissues .Just an assumption tho. I might be completely wrong
 
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Another good high IQ tread from you. I think that shallow canine fossa mogs. I think i have deep canine fossa but it is hard to see since i am a bit rescesd
 
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So i have shallow canine fossa right?
 
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Nice thread but I think shallow mogs it looks more aesthetic although deep looks more masculine
 
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GigaChang said:
No its just the lighting. i forgot the models name, but his hollowing looks normal in other pics
The 2nd type happens when light is above and to the side of you with the shadow being cast by cheekbones forwards and down, the first when the light is above and in front of you, with a shadow being cast by the cheekbones backwards and down. This is my experience when looking in the mirror.

This also shows what I am saying.
 
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thecel said:
It looks like they moved the parts of the maxilla around the sides of the nose and kept the nose in the same position, no?
I think so. The nose does tend to change shape too but it isn't shown here.
 
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Babushkacatlady said:
Curious, what does O'Pry have? He doesn't have that broad curve like the 3nd image, his is a bit sunken in like in the 1/2nd pic except more prominient at the zygos. Is it because they are much higher? He has a pretty good maxilla

 
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Is there a way to tell if its shallow or deep without leanmaxxing or x-ray?
 
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Actually surprised there is so much disagreement, shallow mogs hard and it's not even close tbh, it's what literally everyone thinks about when you say hollow cheeks
Deep mogs imo it gives impression of mogger undereye support
 
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thecel said:
Have you ever noticed there're 2 kinds of hollow cheeks?

View attachment 1094464

It isn't just lighting; it's all a matter of canine fossa. How deep the canine fossa is.

Here's the range of canine fossa depths from shallow (left) to deep (right):

View attachment 1094466

Shallow canine fossa hollow cheeks:

View attachment 1094468 View attachment 1094469 View attachment 1094470 View attachment 1094471 View attachment 1094472 View attachment 1094490 View attachment 1094492

Deep canine fossa hollow cheeks:

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I have deep canine fossa then
 
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The second guy in other lighting:
 
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I have the second type:cop:
 
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I have the Alain demon type cheeks
 
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2nd look more robust imo.
 
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Both look good but shallow better for aging
 
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thecel said:
Have you ever noticed there're 2 kinds of hollow cheeks?

View attachment 1094464

It isn't just lighting; it's all a matter of canine fossa. How deep the canine fossa is.

Here's the range of canine fossa depths from shallow (left) to deep (right):

View attachment 1094466

Shallow canine fossa hollow cheeks:

View attachment 1094468 View attachment 1094469 View attachment 1094470 View attachment 1094471 View attachment 1094472 View attachment 1094490 View attachment 1094492

Deep canine fossa hollow cheeks:

View attachment 1094476 View attachment 1094477 View attachment 1094478 View attachment 1094479 View attachment 1094483 View attachment 1094485 View attachment 1094487





Deep mogs. Shallow can sometimes make your face appear more narrow whereas deep never will.
 

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