Carnivore diet is fucking idiotic and veganism isn't far behind

[Brinntid]

If you're doing the carnivore diet unironically in 2025 you’ve completely fried your brain from too many Joe Rogan clips and TikTok pseudoscience. You're not a wolf. You're not a Mongolian warlord. You're a guy with clogged arteries, chronic constipation, and a credit card bill from buying 14 pounds of grass-fed beef every week like it’s going to solve your life.


You cut out fiber. You cut out all plant nutrients. You cut out carbs. And you think you're becoming some ultra test maxxing sigma male. No. What you're doing is wrecking your gut microbiome, killing your digestion, tanking your vitamin C intake and turning your toilet into a medieval torture device. The only people who need to be carnivore are people with severe autoimmune diseases and even they don’t stick with it long-term. You think you're going to outsmart every nutritionist and actual medical researcher because you follow an ex-bodybuilder on Instagram with zero credentials.

Look at the facts. Fiber literally feeds your gut bacteria. Without it your digestion gets worse. Not better. The only reason some of you feel good in the first 2 weeks is because you stopped eating processed trash. But try living like that for 6 months. You’ll be back here crying about fatigue, brain fog and how you haven’t had a normal shit in weeks. Also you’re not getting vitamin C. Liver has some, sure. But you’re not eating raw liver daily. You’re eating ribeye and hoping your teeth don’t fall out.

Let’s not forget about diabetes. Carnivore clowns love to flex that they’ve “cured” their blood sugar problems by cutting all carbs, but what they really did was sidestep the issue. You didn’t fix your metabolism, you just nuked every source of glucose and called it a win. Then your body stopped being able to handle carbs at all. Congrats, you gave yourself carb intolerance.


That’s why so many of these meatheads started sneaking honey into their diets. They realized living off steak alone made them feel like garbage. Zero carbs tanked their energy, wrecked their thyroid, destroyed their workouts, and left them cold, weak, and foggy. So now they’re drizzling honey on raw liver like it’s some ancient biohack when really it’s just their body begging for basic fuel. They’ll cope and say it’s “ancestral” when in reality they’re trying to undo the damage they did from eating like a malnourished dog for months

And let’s not pretend vegans are any better. Same cult, different flavor. You swapped steak larping for tofu and oat milk and now you’re iron-deficient, low test, and coping by telling everyone how much “cleaner” you feel while looking like a prepubescent wizard.


You have no B12 unless you're taking supplements. You have garbage omega-3 intake unless you’re choking down algae oil like a fish. You eat carbs all day but none of it fuels anything because you’re skinny-fat and avoiding lifting in case it “hurts your joints.” Plant protein is inferior. Period. You can make it work but it’s a struggle. Most of you don’t.


Both need to stop. Neither diet is optimal. Carnivore is cope for fat guys who want a shortcut to weight loss without understanding anything about nutrition. Veganism is cope for soft guys trying to morally bypass their own health deterioration by saying it’s “for the animals.” You’re both starving for attention and lackluster micronutrients.


If you want to max out looks, performance, energy and longevity you eat like an actual human. Balanced, real food. Quality meat. Fruits. Vegetables. Some carbs. No magic, no cult, just common sense and discipline. You don’t get face gains from steak-only autism or quinoa-fueled pacifism. You get it from a proper training plan, sleeping right and not eating like an extremist.


Stop Larping. You’re not ancient. You’re not enlightened. You’re just annoying bro.

 

[Orc]

i'd rather try the shotgun diet than seize eating carbs

literally everything that tastes good has carbs in it

 

[Brinntid]

i'd rather try the shotgun diet than seize eating carbs

literally everything that tastes good has carbs in it

Yes, 100%. Carbs are the body’s preferred fuel source and shouldn’t be avoided unless there’s a medical reason. And glucose is the most efficient and readily used energy source for the human body.

 

[Tyler1]

so Carnivore means eating only cooked muscle meat?

 

[Brinntid]

so Carnivore means eating only cooked muscle meat?

Carnivore used to be only meat, eggs and raw milk. (products...) All three suck for you long term if you don't have any other nutrients to balance out or benefit from them.

 

[copercel123]

If you're doing the carnivore diet unironically in 2025 you’ve completely fried your brain from too many Joe Rogan clips and TikTok pseudoscience. You're not a wolf. You're not a Mongolian warlord. You're a guy with clogged arteries, chronic constipation, and a credit card bill from buying 14 pounds of grass-fed beef every week like it’s going to solve your life.


You cut out fiber. You cut out all plant nutrients. You cut out carbs. And you think you're becoming some ultra test maxxing sigma male. No. What you're doing is wrecking your gut microbiome, killing your digestion, tanking your vitamin C intake and turning your toilet into a medieval torture device. The only people who need to be carnivore are people with severe autoimmune diseases and even they don’t stick with it long-term. You think you're going to outsmart every nutritionist and actual medical researcher because you follow an ex-bodybuilder on Instagram with zero credentials.

Look at the facts. Fiber literally feeds your gut bacteria. Without it your digestion gets worse. Not better. The only reason some of you feel good in the first 2 weeks is because you stopped eating processed trash. But try living like that for 6 months. You’ll be back here crying about fatigue, brain fog and how you haven’t had a normal shit in weeks. Also you’re not getting vitamin C. Liver has some, sure. But you’re not eating raw liver daily. You’re eating ribeye and hoping your teeth don’t fall out.

Let’s not forget about diabetes. Carnivore clowns love to flex that they’ve “cured” their blood sugar problems by cutting all carbs, but what they really did was sidestep the issue. You didn’t fix your metabolism, you just nuked every source of glucose and called it a win. Then your body stopped being able to handle carbs at all. Congrats, you gave yourself carb intolerance.


That’s why so many of these meatheads started sneaking honey into their diets. They realized living off steak alone made them feel like garbage. Zero carbs tanked their energy, wrecked their thyroid, destroyed their workouts, and left them cold, weak, and foggy. So now they’re drizzling honey on raw liver like it’s some ancient biohack when really it’s just their body begging for basic fuel. They’ll cope and say it’s “ancestral” when in reality they’re trying to undo the damage they did from eating like a malnourished dog for months

And let’s not pretend vegans are any better. Same cult, different flavor. You swapped steak larping for tofu and oat milk and now you’re iron-deficient, low test, and coping by telling everyone how much “cleaner” you feel while looking like a prepubescent wizard.


You have no B12 unless you're taking supplements. You have garbage omega-3 intake unless you’re choking down algae oil like a fish. You eat carbs all day but none of it fuels anything because you’re skinny-fat and avoiding lifting in case it “hurts your joints.” Plant protein is inferior. Period. You can make it work but it’s a struggle. Most of you don’t.


Both need to stop. Neither diet is optimal. Carnivore is cope for fat guys who want a shortcut to weight loss without understanding anything about nutrition. Veganism is cope for soft guys trying to morally bypass their own health deterioration by saying it’s “for the animals.” You’re both starving for attention and lackluster micronutrients.


If you want to max out looks, performance, energy and longevity you eat like an actual human. Balanced, real food. Quality meat. Fruits. Vegetables. Some carbs. No magic, no cult, just common sense and discipline. You don’t get face gains from steak-only autism or quinoa-fueled pacifism. You get it from a proper training plan, sleeping right and not eating like an extremist.


Stop Larping. You’re not ancient. You’re not enlightened. You’re just annoying bro.

 

[Brinntid]

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You guys are everywhere.

 

[Tyler1]

Carnivore used to be only meat, eggs and raw milk. (products...) All three suck for you long term if you don't have any other nutrients to balance out or benefit from them.

Some berries are carnivore, fish olyster too you don't know what a carnivore diet is

You look at tiktoks and see overcooked meat and eggs and think that's a carnivore diet that's a fake carnivore diet no carnivorous animal eats like this

 

[Brinntid]

Some berries are carnivore, fish olyster too you don't know what a carnivore diet is

You look at tiktoks and see overcooked meat and eggs and think that's a carnivore diet that's a fake carnivore diet no carnivore eats like that

90% of people come into carnivore diet thinking that they should only consume meat. I want people to survive and not get diabetes like the carnivore diet founder

 

[chadisbeingmade]

I would rather be vegan than Carnivore tbh.

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

I read ALL of this

 

[bp3nthusiast]

If you're doing the carnivore diet unironically in 2025 you’ve completely fried your brain from too many Joe Rogan clips and TikTok pseudoscience. You're not a wolf. You're not a Mongolian warlord. You're a guy with clogged arteries, chronic constipation, and a credit card bill from buying 14 pounds of grass-fed beef every week like it’s going to solve your life.


You cut out fiber. You cut out all plant nutrients. You cut out carbs. And you think you're becoming some ultra test maxxing sigma male. No. What you're doing is wrecking your gut microbiome, killing your digestion, tanking your vitamin C intake and turning your toilet into a medieval torture device. The only people who need to be carnivore are people with severe autoimmune diseases and even they don’t stick with it long-term. You think you're going to outsmart every nutritionist and actual medical researcher because you follow an ex-bodybuilder on Instagram with zero credentials.

Look at the facts. Fiber literally feeds your gut bacteria. Without it your digestion gets worse. Not better. The only reason some of you feel good in the first 2 weeks is because you stopped eating processed trash. But try living like that for 6 months. You’ll be back here crying about fatigue, brain fog and how you haven’t had a normal shit in weeks. Also you’re not getting vitamin C. Liver has some, sure. But you’re not eating raw liver daily. You’re eating ribeye and hoping your teeth don’t fall out.

Let’s not forget about diabetes. Carnivore clowns love to flex that they’ve “cured” their blood sugar problems by cutting all carbs, but what they really did was sidestep the issue. You didn’t fix your metabolism, you just nuked every source of glucose and called it a win. Then your body stopped being able to handle carbs at all. Congrats, you gave yourself carb intolerance.


That’s why so many of these meatheads started sneaking honey into their diets. They realized living off steak alone made them feel like garbage. Zero carbs tanked their energy, wrecked their thyroid, destroyed their workouts, and left them cold, weak, and foggy. So now they’re drizzling honey on raw liver like it’s some ancient biohack when really it’s just their body begging for basic fuel. They’ll cope and say it’s “ancestral” when in reality they’re trying to undo the damage they did from eating like a malnourished dog for months

And let’s not pretend vegans are any better. Same cult, different flavor. You swapped steak larping for tofu and oat milk and now you’re iron-deficient, low test, and coping by telling everyone how much “cleaner” you feel while looking like a prepubescent wizard.


You have no B12 unless you're taking supplements. You have garbage omega-3 intake unless you’re choking down algae oil like a fish. You eat carbs all day but none of it fuels anything because you’re skinny-fat and avoiding lifting in case it “hurts your joints.” Plant protein is inferior. Period. You can make it work but it’s a struggle. Most of you don’t.


Both need to stop. Neither diet is optimal. Carnivore is cope for fat guys who want a shortcut to weight loss without understanding anything about nutrition. Veganism is cope for soft guys trying to morally bypass their own health deterioration by saying it’s “for the animals.” You’re both starving for attention and lackluster micronutrients.


If you want to max out looks, performance, energy and longevity you eat like an actual human. Balanced, real food. Quality meat. Fruits. Vegetables. Some carbs. No magic, no cult, just common sense and discipline. You don’t get face gains from steak-only autism or quinoa-fueled pacifism. You get it from a proper training plan, sleeping right and not eating like an extremist.


Stop Larping. You’re not ancient. You’re not enlightened. You’re just annoying bro.

clavicular son! hi

 

[bp3nthusiast]

I read ALL of this

But cant read a job aplication

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

But cant read a job aplication

I want a job

 

[Tyler1]

90% of people come into carnivore diet thinking that they should only consume meat. I want people to survive and not get diabetes like the carnivore diet founder

Even fruit is sometimes carnivorous because you convert it into saturated fat if you don't eat fruit often

I don't know if this is true but I once heard it from Aajonus Vonderplanitz I think

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

But cant read a job aplication

Nigger it’s 9 paragraphs that only takes two minutes to read

 

[bp3nthusiast]

Nigger it’s 9 paragraphs that only takes two minutes to read

 

[Tyler1]

90% of people come into carnivore diet thinking that they should only consume meat. I want people to survive and not get diabetes like the carnivore diet founder

All I can tell you is that it is not a carnivore diet it is a fake carnivore diet and you will never be 100% healthy on it but still better than most diets today

 

[AlphaLooksmaxxer666]

All diets are cope. Just eat less and exercise

 

[Sub5UglyMan]

That’s me

 

[bp3nthusiast]

That’s me

jfl it, it was funny

 

[14mOgginIgguhs88]

Yea that shit is pseudoscience just do a balanced diet with fats, carbs and protein. 50% protein, 30% carb and 20% fat. Fiber and probiotics are important. I would avoid high sugar drinks and candy etc.

 

[Brinntid]

I would rather be vegan than Carnivore tbh.

Of course. Much healthier, still bad.

 

[mandiblade]

If you want to refute the carnivore diet, this is not how you do it. I'm not a carnivore zealot rn, but you didn't do a very good job

chronic constipation

According to mayoclinic:

Constipation generally means passing fewer than three stools a week or having a difficult time passing stool

This is what it is characterized by, and this is of no biological relevance beyond a diagnosis. I guess the best "definition" I can think of rn is "the inability to pass stool despite its presence in the bowel." Unless you have meat/butter stuck in your colon, you are not "chronically constipated" as a carnivore

What you're doing is wrecking your gut microbiome

There was a case study done on a carnivore who had a perfectly fine gut microbiome. Numerous anecdotes on reddit as well.

Also you’re not getting vitamin C. Liver has some, sure. But you’re not eating raw liver daily. You’re eating ribeye and hoping your teeth don’t fall out

Muscle meat contains some vitamin C. WDYM "hoping your teeth don't fall out?"

Then your body stopped being able to handle carbs at all. Congrats, you gave yourself carb intolerance

Source for the first sentence? Wouldn't the 2nd sentence mean you have insulin "hypersensitivity,"(assuming it's true) completely fixing the issue?

That’s why so many of these meatheads started sneaking honey into their diets.

Is it because they were "carb intolerant?"

Zero carbs tanked their energy, wrecked their thyroid, destroyed their workouts, and left them cold, weak, and foggy.

(I have not researched thyroid function deeply, so I could be wrong about this)
It seems as though carbohydrates are only conductive to thyroid function due to their insulinemic response. BCAA consumption should be enough to replicate this while on a carnivore diet
About working out, if you're talking about hypothyroid, see my above comment. If you mean carb in general providing glycogen, yes, workouts should be suboptimal while on ketogenic diets.

swapped steak larping for tofu and oat milk and now you’re iron-deficient, low test, and coping by telling everyone how much “cleaner” you feel while looking like a prepubescent wizard

How is that "better" than carnivore?

You have no B12 unless you're taking supplements

Evolutionarily, correct. However, in today's society, I'm pretty sure most plant products are fortified in this.

Carnivore is cope for fat guys who want a shortcut to weight loss without understanding anything about nutrition

If I were to go carnivore, I would continue after leaning out. 95% stay after leaning out as well.

Even fruit is sometimes carnivorous because you convert it into saturated fat if you don't eat fruit often

Dude....what....

 

[hybobu]

i mean one dude who preaches basically only raw meat said that through ketosis you literally cant do cardio like how do you seriously do just meat, i honestly cant imagine eating 7g of carbs a day and being vegan is stupid because the pesticides, amount of animals killed, carbon emissions etc to get your fucking tofu is so much more damaging than just buying from your local butcher, so if you want to help the environment and animals being vegan isnt it

 

[mandiblade]

@Never Get Up @thereallegend @PrimalPlasty give me some reps please

 

[Tyler1]

Dude....what....

What is the problem? You can look it up some carnivores say that

 

[Brinntid]

If you want to refute the carnivore diet, this is not how you do it. I'm not a carnivore zealot rn, but you didn't do a very good job

According to mayoclinic:

This is what it is characterized by, and this is of no biological relevance beyond a diagnosis. I guess the best "definition" I can think of rn is "the inability to pass stool despite its presence in the bowel." Unless you have meat/butter stuck in your colon, you are not "chronically constipated" as a carnivore

There was a case study done on a carnivore who had a perfectly fine gut microbiome. Numerous anecdotes on reddit as well.

Muscle meat contains some vitamin C. WDYM "hoping your teeth don't fall out?"

Source for the first sentence? Wouldn't the 2nd sentence mean you have insulin "hypersensitivity,"(assuming it's true) completely fixing the issue?

Is it because they were "carb intolerant?"

(I have not researched thyroid function deeply, so I could be wrong about this)
It seems as though carbohydrates are only conductive to thyroid function due to their insulinemic response. BCAA consumption should be enough to replicate this while on a carnivore diet
About working out, if you're talking about hypothyroid, see my above comment. If you mean carb in general providing glycogen, yes, workouts should be suboptimal while on ketogenic diets.

How is that "better" than carnivore?

Evolutionarily, correct. However, in today's society, I'm pretty sure most plant products are fortified in this.

If I were to go carnivore, I would continue after leaning out. 95% stay after leaning out as well.

Dude....what....

They started sneaking in honey because they got pre-diabetes, founder of carnivore legit discredited it and said that he regrets creating the diet.

Veganism isnt far off, but its slightly better since you wont hurt yourself as much.

 

[hardmaxxx]

If you're doing the carnivore diet unironically in 2025 you’ve completely fried your brain from too many Joe Rogan clips and TikTok pseudoscience. You're not a wolf. You're not a Mongolian warlord. You're a guy with clogged arteries, chronic constipation, and a credit card bill from buying 14 pounds of grass-fed beef every week like it’s going to solve your life.


You cut out fiber. You cut out all plant nutrients. You cut out carbs. And you think you're becoming some ultra test maxxing sigma male. No. What you're doing is wrecking your gut microbiome, killing your digestion, tanking your vitamin C intake and turning your toilet into a medieval torture device. The only people who need to be carnivore are people with severe autoimmune diseases and even they don’t stick with it long-term. You think you're going to outsmart every nutritionist and actual medical researcher because you follow an ex-bodybuilder on Instagram with zero credentials.

Look at the facts. Fiber literally feeds your gut bacteria. Without it your digestion gets worse. Not better. The only reason some of you feel good in the first 2 weeks is because you stopped eating processed trash. But try living like that for 6 months. You’ll be back here crying about fatigue, brain fog and how you haven’t had a normal shit in weeks. Also you’re not getting vitamin C. Liver has some, sure. But you’re not eating raw liver daily. You’re eating ribeye and hoping your teeth don’t fall out.

Let’s not forget about diabetes. Carnivore clowns love to flex that they’ve “cured” their blood sugar problems by cutting all carbs, but what they really did was sidestep the issue. You didn’t fix your metabolism, you just nuked every source of glucose and called it a win. Then your body stopped being able to handle carbs at all. Congrats, you gave yourself carb intolerance.


That’s why so many of these meatheads started sneaking honey into their diets. They realized living off steak alone made them feel like garbage. Zero carbs tanked their energy, wrecked their thyroid, destroyed their workouts, and left them cold, weak, and foggy. So now they’re drizzling honey on raw liver like it’s some ancient biohack when really it’s just their body begging for basic fuel. They’ll cope and say it’s “ancestral” when in reality they’re trying to undo the damage they did from eating like a malnourished dog for months

And let’s not pretend vegans are any better. Same cult, different flavor. You swapped steak larping for tofu and oat milk and now you’re iron-deficient, low test, and coping by telling everyone how much “cleaner” you feel while looking like a prepubescent wizard.


You have no B12 unless you're taking supplements. You have garbage omega-3 intake unless you’re choking down algae oil like a fish. You eat carbs all day but none of it fuels anything because you’re skinny-fat and avoiding lifting in case it “hurts your joints.” Plant protein is inferior. Period. You can make it work but it’s a struggle. Most of you don’t.


Both need to stop. Neither diet is optimal. Carnivore is cope for fat guys who want a shortcut to weight loss without understanding anything about nutrition. Veganism is cope for soft guys trying to morally bypass their own health deterioration by saying it’s “for the animals.” You’re both starving for attention and lackluster micronutrients.


If you want to max out looks, performance, energy and longevity you eat like an actual human. Balanced, real food. Quality meat. Fruits. Vegetables. Some carbs. No magic, no cult, just common sense and discipline. You don’t get face gains from steak-only autism or quinoa-fueled pacifism. You get it from a proper training plan, sleeping right and not eating like an extremist.


Stop Larping. You’re not ancient. You’re not enlightened. You’re just annoying bro.

1000000000000000 iq

 

[mandiblade]

What is the problem? You can look it up some carnivores say that

Them saying it doesn't make it true. You should not be learning stuff like this from rumors on carnivore forums. You should be listening to debates and reading studies

They started sneaking in honey because they got pre-diabetes

You claimed that they had "carb intolerance." Yet, they started chugging down honey and they were fine?

founder of carnivore legit discredited it and said that he regrets creating the diet

Paul Saladino did indeed move to the animal based diet. However,
1. It was not because of "carb intolerance"
2. It was likely due to electrolyte problems, a thiamine deficiency, or another problem he would have been able to fix while remaining a carnivore

Veganism isnt far off, but its slightly better since you wont hurt yourself as much.

The only real attack you had on carnivore here was that it's expensive and that some people may get electrolyte imbalances(which can be resolved). That's a bit better than being a low-t, O3 deficient skinnyfatcel.