Chadlite’s life ruined from anxiety.

[russwestbrook]

Clickbaity threat title because I need eyes on this.

Had a good upbringing, both parents together, well-off family, good education, lots of friends in school, 2 year relationship when I was 15 so had that teenage love experience as well.

Get rated HTN+/chadlite here on the forum, just started a new course and get positive reinforcement from guys and girls in interactions but yet im so high inhib I can barely talk to them. A girl was sat next to me on the PCs today and put her hand over mine on my mouse jfl. when I had to introduce myself to the class I was psychically shaking, sweating and could barely breathe/talk.

What can I do? its seriously ruining my life.

@Seth Walsh tagging you just because I know you know your shit

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Try progesterone and thyroid

 

[Napoleon1800]

Try progesterone and thyroid

Progesterone????

 

[Deleted member 23558]

Progesterone????

Did I say cow shit?

 

[Krakowski]

Your changes have been saved.

 

[russwestbrook]

Try progesterone and thyroid

excuse my ignorance but are they just things I can try or do I need to be careful

 

[User28823]

Get some propranolol it will cure the physical effects of adrenaline you're experiencing, actually works insanely well too.

It won't cure the anxiety though and you will still be nervous, that must be fixed in other ways (neuroplasticity, exposure therapy, etc)

 

[Deleted member 23558]

excuse my ignorance but are they just things I can try or do I need to be careful

Progesterone 50 mg just before bed

Thyroid t3 10 mg 5 times a day

T4 50 mcg at noon and 50 mcg before bed

 

[Dr. Bludy]

Clickbaity threat title because I need eyes on this.

Had a good upbringing, both parents together, well-off family, good education, lots of friends in school, 2 year relationship when I was 15 so had that teenage love experience as well.

Get rated HTN+/chadlite here on the forum, just started a new course and get positive reinforcement from guys and girls in interactions but yet im so high inhib I can barely talk to them. A girl was sat next to me on the PCs today and put her hand over mine on my mouse jfl. when I had to introduce myself to the class I was psychically shaking, sweating and could barely breathe/talk.

What can I do? its seriously ruining my life.

@Seth Walsh tagging you just because I know you know your shit

No sugar diet for 1 month

 

[redmaxx]

A girl was sat next to me on the PCs today and put her hand over mine on my mouse jfl.

 

[letsdoit]

Try progesterone and thyroid

Daily doses?

 

[optimisticzoomer]

That's better than having anxiety and not being chadlite

 

[russwestbrook]

That's better than having anxiety and not being chadlite

honestly, ascending looks wise is only good for LTR. doesnt teach you consistent social skills and the ability to have good mental health.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

honestly, ascending looks wise is only good for LTR. doesnt teach you consistent social skills and the ability to have good mental health.

I know, I'm pretty sure if I got checked I would be diagnosed with clinical depression and perhaps even autism (Asperger's), I'm bad in social situations and always feel like the odd one out, and that people kind of dislike me. Been the same way since at least age 12-13
I see people worse looking than me with girlfriends or having sex, yet I'm too insecure and awkward to talk to any girls

 

[Octavian_Augustus]

@UndiagnosedSchizo

I guess this is probably Klinefelter's right?

 

[AspiringMogger]

Clickbaity threat title because I need eyes on this.

Had a good upbringing, both parents together, well-off family, good education, lots of friends in school, 2 year relationship when I was 15 so had that teenage love experience as well.

Get rated HTN+/chadlite here on the forum, just started a new course and get positive reinforcement from guys and girls in interactions but yet im so high inhib I can barely talk to them. A girl was sat next to me on the PCs today and put her hand over mine on my mouse jfl. when I had to introduce myself to the class I was psychically shaking, sweating and could barely breathe/talk.

What can I do? its seriously ruining my life.

@Seth Walsh tagging you just because I know you know your shit

Can’t relate. I have good personality and shit looks.

 

[Deleted member 4451]

CBD Oil.

 

[Deleted member 4451]

Can’t relate. I have good personality and shit looks.

Having social anxiety doesn't mean shit personality lmao

It's a phase for a couple of people with unresolved trauma

 

[Akhi]

op send me your face ill tell if youre htn or chadlite

disregard hindu raters

 

[Dbeyduvudhs]

I have bad anxiety as well but for me consuming alcohol eliminates it 1000%

But when I drink I don’t notice that women or anyone else treats me differently so I don’t think anxiety is my problem.

 

[Dbeyduvudhs]

You have to remember anxiety has it’s purpose.

It stops us from doing socially retarded things. When I’m drunk I can ruin my reputation by saying very stupid things.

Anxiety has its purpose.

 

[Seth Walsh]

Clickbaity threat title because I need eyes on this.

Had a good upbringing, both parents together, well-off family, good education, lots of friends in school, 2 year relationship when I was 15 so had that teenage love experience as well.

Get rated HTN+/chadlite here on the forum, just started a new course and get positive reinforcement from guys and girls in interactions but yet im so high inhib I can barely talk to them. A girl was sat next to me on the PCs today and put her hand over mine on my mouse jfl. when I had to introduce myself to the class I was psychically shaking, sweating and could barely breathe/talk.

What can I do? its seriously ruining my life.

@Seth Walsh tagging you just because I know you know your shit

Be yourself more around people. Girls too. Just literally be yourself and don't give a fuck what anyone thinks.

I was/am in such a similar situation to you so here's what to note.

As a Chadlite in college - ALL normies will try to snake you or suck up to you. You shouldn't need to "identify your friends". If you genuinely get along with someone, then they're your friend. If you feel they're trying to be your ally, then they only care what they can get out of you. But don't let that make you cynical - just try to be easy going, even if that's not in your nature.

Most important piece of advice I'll probably drop on this forum, below:

Chadlites with anxiety get this weird complex where they have girls literally flirt with them in the middle of the day. The Chadlite with anxiety will never be the cool person that's expected from him, based on his "shell/outer appearance".

The problem that fucks with his mind is; he'll falsely rationalise this as rejecting girls' advances and having high standards etc. When the case is just his awkwardness. So - get out of your head as much as possible. Don't be afraid to be humorous or even flirt/joke with girls even if you're not into them. It'll prevent you from developing more anxiety and thinking "oh I have the looks but just not the NT" bs.

So:

1. Don't try be the ladies man in front of big groups (guys will get jealous)
2. Don't try be the man's man in small groups of incels (they'll grow resent coz you're a chadlite)
3. Keep it light hearted and talk to as many randoms as possible in college. It'll build your esteem and it'll let people know you have self-confidence
4. Get out of your head
5. Try actually make friends with girls too but not like how you see normies do it (talking about classes, events, semester shit) - make it about her, without asking her stupid questions. So basically, if she says something weird, joke about it and if she's not a bitch, she'll find that unique and endearing. Also don't cope with (ohhh if I flirt with 100 girls they'll all want to fuck me and I don't want that... that won't happen). Just try relax and be independent without isolating yourself.

So I guess "just be funny theory", with girls - but do it in isolation (don't try mog other guys). Even better if you can flirt with some girl, in front of other girls coz that could set them all up against each other if you really have the looks. But what I mean is, be your most upbeat worry-free self if you can. And in groups of guys just be your chill self.

Flirting is a weapon in college, not for getting laid but for social status. If you can pin a 1 or more chicks against each other, then you automatically have status among their crowd. If you really connect with a girl then things might go further, but THAT IS UP TO YOU. So don't be afraid of giving a girl the wrong impression, just be fun around each new girl you meet but never do that boring normie dross.

New guys - chill
New girls - playful, even if she's ugly af.

But you don't have to put extra effort into any of this, just discern the nuance. Keep things very separate. When in mixed groups, "just do nothing theory ".

I mean, just be yourself but consider those things I said coz that's really how the dynamics play out. You don't need to be a standup comic infront of girls but don't be coy either.

Don't be afraid to comment on bullshit like what they're wearing, or what they say. If you're talking to a girl and it's awkward and you don't know what to do, just repeat what she says in a funny way later on in the conversation. (don't really have examples for this)

If some girls wearing a Harvard hoodie. Just say "why do you wear a harvard hoodie "... since your a Chadlite she'll probably say "haha oh well I started wearing this after bla bla bla" and conversation will just flow. If she says "why are you asking that", don't take it as "rejection", just keep talking normally but avoid talking factually and statistically about everything.

No one's ever delved into what it's like to have an NT conversation with a girl at college - but it's basically just being yourself without being boring and/or having a nervous breakdown or seeming drunk/high/weird.

Let people know you're there, let people know you pick up on the small things without being serious and analytical. Enjoy your days. Don't think about blackpill, redpill or competition.

Biggest takeaway is to try have lots of long conversations with different people. Best times for this is walking back from college with someone. Go for a coffee with them. Spend alone time with people and you'll do the best. And give everyone a chance, don't isolate yourself, but don't feel the need to be that invisible guy in large groups either. I needa go to bed so probably didn't explain myself well and wrote this in like 30seconds but keep me updated on how things go for you

 

[Deleted member 16280]

SRRI. Shown to be effective in many cases of social anxiety. Now JFL at me, copers.

 

[Deleted member 21666]

No such thing as anxiety for Chadlite, you are HTN at best

 

[Raydolf_Peatler]

Clickbaity threat title because I need eyes on this.

Had a good upbringing, both parents together, well-off family, good education, lots of friends in school, 2 year relationship when I was 15 so had that teenage love experience as well.

Get rated HTN+/chadlite here on the forum, just started a new course and get positive reinforcement from guys and girls in interactions but yet im so high inhib I can barely talk to them. A girl was sat next to me on the PCs today and put her hand over mine on my mouse jfl. when I had to introduce myself to the class I was psychically shaking, sweating and could barely breathe/talk.

What can I do? its seriously ruining my life.

@Seth Walsh tagging you just because I know you know your shit

Thyroid + Androgens (Mainly Dht) + Peating + Eliminating micronutrient deficiencies using chronometer will reduce your anxiety.

I have made a peat resource list.

 

[Dbeyduvudhs]

Thyroid + Androgens (Mainly Dht) + Peating + Eliminating micronutrient deficiencies using chronometer will reduce your anxiety.

I have made a peat resource list.

I don’t think peat is the best for anxiety. He recommends caffeine use

 

[chadison]

Be yourself more around people. Girls too. Just literally be yourself and don't give a fuck what anyone thinks.

I was/am in such a similar situation to you so here's what to note.

As a Chadlite in college - ALL normies will try to snake you or suck up to you. You shouldn't need to "identify your friends". If you genuinely get along with someone, then they're your friend. If you feel they're trying to be your ally, then they only care what they can get out of you. But don't let that make you cynical - just try to be easy going, even if that's not in your nature.

Most important piece of advice I'll probably drop on this forum, below:

Chadlites with anxiety get this weird complex where they have girls literally flirt with them in the middle of the day. The Chadlite with anxiety will never be the cool person that's expected from him, based on his "shell/outer appearance".

The problem that fucks with his mind is; he'll falsely rationalise this as rejecting girls' advances and having high standards etc. When the case is just his awkwardness. So - get out of your head as much as possible. Don't be afraid to be humorous or even flirt/joke with girls even if you're not into them. It'll prevent you from developing more anxiety and thinking "oh I have the looks but just not the NT" bs.

So:

1. Don't try be the ladies man in front of big groups (guys will get jealous)
2. Don't try be the man's man in small groups of incels (they'll grow resent coz you're a chadlite)
3. Keep it light hearted and talk to as many randoms as possible in college. It'll build your esteem and it'll let people know you have self-confidence
4. Get out of your head
5. Try actually make friends with girls too but not like how you see normies do it (talking about classes, events, semester shit) - make it about her, without asking her stupid questions. So basically, if she says something weird, joke about it and if she's not a bitch, she'll find that unique and endearing. Also don't cope with (ohhh if I flirt with 100 girls they'll all want to fuck me and I don't want that... that won't happen). Just try relax and be independent without isolating yourself.

So I guess "just be funny theory", with girls - but do it in isolation (don't try mog other guys). Even better if you can flirt with some girl, in front of other girls coz that could set them all up against each other if you really have the looks. But what I mean is, be your most upbeat worry-free self if you can. And in groups of guys just be your chill self.

Flirting is a weapon in college, not for getting laid but for social status. If you can pin a 1 or more chicks against each other, then you automatically have status among their crowd. If you really connect with a girl then things might go further, but THAT IS UP TO YOU. So don't be afraid of giving a girl the wrong impression, just be fun around each new girl you meet but never do that boring normie dross.

New guys - chill
New girls - playful, even if she's ugly af.

But you don't have to put extra effort into any of this, just discern the nuance. Keep things very separate. When in mixed groups, "just do nothing theory ".

I mean, just be yourself but consider those things I said coz that's really how the dynamics play out. You don't need to be a standup comic infront of girls but don't be coy either.

Don't be afraid to comment on bullshit like what they're wearing, or what they say. If you're talking to a girl and it's awkward and you don't know what to do, just repeat what she says in a funny way later on in the conversation. (don't really have examples for this)

If some girls wearing a Harvard hoodie. Just say "why do you wear a harvard hoodie "... since your a Chadlite she'll probably say "haha oh well I started wearing this after bla bla bla" and conversation will just flow. If she says "why are you asking that", don't take it as "rejection", just keep talking normally but avoid talking factually and statistically about everything.

No one's ever delved into what it's like to have an NT conversation with a girl at college - but it's basically just being yourself without being boring and/or having a nervous breakdown or seeming drunk/high/weird.

Let people know you're there, let people know you pick up on the small things without being serious and analytical. Enjoy your days. Don't think about blackpill, redpill or competition.

Biggest takeaway is to try have lots of long conversations with different people. Best times for this is walking back from college with someone. Go for a coffee with them. Spend alone time with people and you'll do the best. And give everyone a chance, don't isolate yourself, but don't feel the need to be that invisible guy in large groups either. I needa go to bed so probably didn't explain myself well and wrote this in like 30seconds but keep me updated on how things go for you

Excellent response. I am in my last year of college and I can concur with everything you said. This is what I would do if I was sent back in time, with my current looks level (HTN). Unfortunately, I was a sub-5/average up until around the middle of my first year, so I was forced to learn all of this the hard way and it has negatively impacted my perception of humanity and self-confidence. I firmly believe men that are HTNs or better should be guarded from finding the blackpill, since it will likely only lead to a decrease in self-confidence and higher anxiety, without improving their looks much (since they are starting high on the scale to begin with). Also, I would prefer chadlites not knowing about the blackpill and becoming full blown chads, because it would be over for me (lol).

 

[chadison]

@Seth Walsh also I’ll input my experience with GPT-4 just because I know you’ll actually use it and your content on here is quality. I would recommend pre-prompting GPT-4 in addition to using WebPilot Plugin. I have been able to do some really neat stuff with it, such as scraping websites and getting useful information condensed. For example, I’ll ask GPT “WebPilot: (insert link here) Scrape this website page and do {list of actions}. Then answer these questions: {questions}.” I have been able to do this with homework in my classes, as well as many other things in my life, and it has saved me lots of time now. For $20/mo, its an absolute steal.

 

[Samiscool234]

Purchase some chloroform, soak a cloth in the chloroform and hold the cloth against your face for at least 15 minutes

 

[Deleted member 43403]

Roids

 

[Johanjohan]

Excellent response. I am in my last year of college and I can concur with everything you said. This is what I would do if I was sent back in time, with my current looks level (HTN). Unfortunately, I was a sub-5/average up until around the middle of my first year, so I was forced to learn all of this the hard way and it has negatively impacted my perception of humanity and self-confidence. I firmly believe men that are HTNs or better should be guarded from finding the blackpill, since it will likely only lead to a decrease in self-confidence and higher anxiety, without improving their looks much (since they are starting high on the scale to begin with). Also, I would prefer chadlites not knowing about the blackpill and becoming full blown chads, because it would be over for me (lol).

You are ltn-mtn bro

 

[Akhi]

OP ive been in a similar place as you and I have acceptable levels of anxiety now

dm if you want to know what I did/do

 

[chadison]

You are ltn-mtn bro

True. In truth, I just live in a massive bubble of delusion.

 

[Allornothing]

HTN+/chadlite

Sure

 

[ecig]

Clickbaity threat title because I need eyes on this.

Had a good upbringing, both parents together, well-off family, good education, lots of friends in school, 2 year relationship when I was 15 so had that teenage love experience as well.

Get rated HTN+/chadlite here on the forum, just started a new course and get positive reinforcement from guys and girls in interactions but yet im so high inhib I can barely talk to them. A girl was sat next to me on the PCs today and put her hand over mine on my mouse jfl. when I had to introduce myself to the class I was psychically shaking, sweating and could barely breathe/talk.

What can I do? its seriously ruining my life.

@Seth Walsh tagging you just because I know you know your shit

Improve your sleep diets, takes some supplements/nootropics like fish oil ( they makes me feel so good, chill, no anxiety)

 

[Seth Walsh]

@Seth Walsh also I’ll input my experience with GPT-4 just because I know you’ll actually use it and your content on here is quality. I would recommend pre-prompting GPT-4 in addition to using WebPilot Plugin. I have been able to do some really neat stuff with it, such as scraping websites and getting useful information condensed. For example, I’ll ask GPT “WebPilot: (insert link here) Scrape this website page and do {list of actions}. Then answer these questions: {questions}.” I have been able to do this with homework in my classes, as well as many other things in my life, and it has saved me lots of time now. For $20/mo, its an absolute steal.

Yeah I use gpt4 with custom instructions to give brief answers and to avoid being PC. Makes it a lot more powerful

 

[Seth Walsh]

@Seth Walsh also I’ll input my experience with GPT-4 just because I know you’ll actually use it and your content on here is quality. I would recommend pre-prompting GPT-4 in addition to using WebPilot Plugin. I have been able to do some really neat stuff with it, such as scraping websites and getting useful information condensed. For example, I’ll ask GPT “WebPilot: (insert link here) Scrape this website page and do {list of actions}. Then answer these questions: {questions}.” I have been able to do this with homework in my classes, as well as many other things in my life, and it has saved me lots of time now. For $20/mo, its an absolute steal.

 

[russwestbrook]

Sure

feel free to rate me in dm

 

[chadison]

View attachment 2456930

love it. If OpenAI is struggling to prevent backdoors just by proper prompting, imagine where we'll be in 10 years. Seems like a Skynet future isn't that far-fetched. Even Altman was talking about his worries a week ago with that Buddhist guy

 

[Seth Walsh]

love it. If OpenAI is struggling to prevent backdoors just by proper prompting, imagine where we'll be in 10 years. Seems like a Skynet future isn't that far-fetched. Even Altman was talking about his worries a week ago with that Buddhist guy

Yeah I expect a lot to change even 1 year from now simply due to access to GPT.

Wouldn’t want to be someone whose job relies on processes/procedures and gatekeeping technical info to prevent competition in to their role.

Job market will have high demand for creatives; top grades will mean less than they ever did before. I expect to see more bias/favouritism/discrimination in career onboarding. Less emphasis on merit and more emphasis on “how fast you can learn anything and get good at it” (i.e., IQ)

Looks and IQ have never been as important as they are right now.

It’s not about what you know and what you can do - it’s about what you look like you know and what you look like you can do.

IQ, creativity, solution-oriented thinking, critical thinking and general understanding will bridge that gap.

Never ever try to convince someone you’re needed because of things you’ve already done. Also use the unspoken, or talk about your involvement in something forward looking. That’s how you win, really.

 

[chadison]

Yeah I expect a lot to change even 1 year from now simply due to access to GPT.

Wouldn’t want to be someone whose job relies on processes/procedures and gatekeeping technical info to prevent competition in to their role.

Job market will have high demand for creatives; top grades will mean less than they ever did before. I expect to see more bias/favouritism/discrimination in career onboarding. Less emphasis on merit and more emphasis on “how fast you can learn anything and get good at it” (i.e., IQ)

Looks and IQ have never been as important as they are right now.

It’s not about what you know and what you can do - it’s about what you look like you know and what you look like you can do.

IQ, creativity, solution-oriented thinking, critical thinking and general understanding will bridge that gap.

Never ever try to convince someone you’re needed because of things you’ve already done. Also use the unspoken, or talk about your involvement in something forward looking. That’s how you win, really.

This is what I have seen in the job market as well. Very soon, gone will be the days of a standard corporate desk job. You will need to be good-looking enough to get through HR and look smart. More importantly though, as you mentioned, you will need to be able to demonstrate you are flexible and can quickly adapt in times of uncertainty and volatility. This will lead to an even greater wealth gap than what currently exists, as the high-IQ, good-looking people will dominate much more than they would have fifty, or even just ten years ago. If you've seen the movie Elysium, I think it is probable that humanity ends up somewhat similar to what the movie portrays as a future, especially once they get the ball rolling on genetically engineered human babies (assuming we don't have a nuclear war or some other disaster happen first, like a much more deadly genetically engineered pandemic).

Being creative, confident, good-looking enough (HTN+), and smart enough (say around 120 IQ) will likely be the most valuable attributes one can possess.

 

[Deleted member 7580]

Lol my man

Chadlite on this forum = ltn irl

 

[Deleted member 16501]

Search JulienHimself on YouTube and watch his videos

 

[Kamui]

Clickbaity threat title because I need eyes on this.

Had a good upbringing, both parents together, well-off family, good education, lots of friends in school, 2 year relationship when I was 15 so had that teenage love experience as well.

Get rated HTN+/chadlite here on the forum, just started a new course and get positive reinforcement from guys and girls in interactions but yet im so high inhib I can barely talk to them. A girl was sat next to me on the PCs today and put her hand over mine on my mouse jfl. when I had to introduce myself to the class I was psychically shaking, sweating and could barely breathe/talk.

What can I do? its seriously ruining my life.

@Seth Walsh tagging you just because I know you know your shit

 

[russwestbrook]

Get some propranolol it will cure the physical effects of adrenaline you're experiencing, actually works insanely well too.

It won't cure the anxiety though and you will still be nervous, that must be fixed in other ways (neuroplasticity, exposure therapy, etc)

just got prescribed this. thanks bro. anyone else got any experience/thoughts on propranolol?

 

[Meganut]

Clickbaity threat title because I need eyes on this.

Had a good upbringing, both parents together, well-off family, good education, lots of friends in school, 2 year relationship when I was 15 so had that teenage love experience as well.

Get rated HTN+/chadlite here on the forum, just started a new course and get positive reinforcement from guys and girls in interactions but yet im so high inhib I can barely talk to them. A girl was sat next to me on the PCs today and put her hand over mine on my mouse jfl. when I had to introduce myself to the class I was psychically shaking, sweating and could barely breathe/talk.

What can I do? its seriously ruining my life.

@Seth Walsh tagging you just because I know you know your shit

ashwaganda for 2 months bro.

 

[BloodClot]

Anxiety is no joke bro, people without it wouldn’t understand. Ima pm you

 

[HerpDerpson]

Did I say cow shit?

Cow shit might help (gut microbiome maxxing).

 

[autistic_tendencies]

Broccoli sprouts are said to cure autistic tendencies

 

[lovemaxer]

IQ Problem touch grass brain transplant