Chin Protrusion in Blacks and Mulattos - Bimaxillary Protrusion doesn't have to be corrected?

[RandomGREY]

People have been saying that blacks with bimaxillary protrusion need to get extractions, but I disagree in moderate cases. Take a look at the following model

You can see the three lines, one at the front of the eye, one at the brow ridge and one at the tip of the nose. As long as the bimaxillary protrusion doesn't exceed that tip, imo it might be best simply to advance the chin to that line.

In my case

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More examples of gl people with this facial growth

Do you guys think this is a good idea in my case? Would the labiomental fold be a problem?

 

[RandomGREY]

Also yes ik my side profile sucks but somehow my jaw is good from front.

 

[aesthetic beauty]

People have been saying that blacks with bimaxillary protrusion need to get extractions, but I disagree in moderate cases. Take a look at the following model
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You can see the three lines, one at the front of the eye, one at the brow ridge and one at the tip of the nose. As long as the bimaxillary protrusion doesn't exceed that tip, imo it might be best simply to advance the chin to that line.

In my case

Advanced Accordingly



More examples of gl people with this facial growth
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Do you guys think this is a good idea in my case? Would the labiomental fold be a problem?

He doesn't have bimaxillary protrusion and you have craniofacial recession.

 

[pentamogged9000]

good analysis, wouldnt work for everyone but would definitely for me

 

[Alexanderr]

People have been saying that blacks with bimaxillary protrusion need to get extractions, but I disagree in moderate cases. Take a look at the following model
View attachment 2410239
You can see the three lines, one at the front of the eye, one at the brow ridge and one at the tip of the nose. As long as the bimaxillary protrusion doesn't exceed that tip, imo it might be best simply to advance the chin to that line.

In my case

Advanced Accordingly



More examples of gl people with this facial growth
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Do you guys think this is a good idea in my case? Would the labiomental fold be a problem?

He's mulatto and has limited bimaxillary protrusion, most blacks with bimaxillary protrusion will look like this.

Not to mention, Desire (the male model) has amazing forward growth so his chin barely has to protrude to be sufficient.

(Same lady)
Getting bimaxillary protrustion treated in conjunction with advancing the chin would probably be ideal for blacks.

 

[RandomGREY]

He doesn't have bimaxillary protrusion and you have craniofacial recession.

my midface is recessed ik, and yes everyone i posted does have bimaxillary protrusion. An example of someone without bimaxillary protrusion:

Compared to

You can see how the lips protrude from the face - and hes not even black.

 

[RandomGREY]

He's mulatto and has limited bimaxillary protrusion, most blacks with bimaxillary protrusion will look like this.
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Not to mention, Desire (the male model) has amazing forward growth so his chin barely has to protrude to be sufficient.
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(Same lady)
Getting bimaxillary protrustion treated in conjunction with advancing the chin would probably be ideal for blacks.

Yes, but in the case of mild protrusion (as in my case as a mutt), my approach could work.

 

[Deleted member 18582]

what you're calling bimaxillary protrusion is just an anteface, which is when the jaws exceed beyond the line drawn from the nasion to the chin

 

[Alexanderr]

Yes, but in the case of mild protrusion (as in my case as a mutt), my approach could work.

Yeah, but even then there's a case to be made they'd look better with less protrusion.

 

[RandomGREY]

what you're calling bimaxillary protrusion is just an anteface, which is when the jaws exceed beyond the line drawn from the nasion to the chin

yes, but in my case, it looks bad because the chin isnt protrusive so a simple wedge genio would suffice instead of annoying long correction process

Yeah, but even then there's a case to be made they'd look better with less protrusion.

Sure, but they would also have less full lips and less "anteface" look

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Over for us whitebois with this type of growth.

Cant even properly close my fucking mouth without looking like a homosexual chimpanzee

 

[RandomGREY]

@VenatorLuparius
@Blackgymmax

 

[mtcut3plush]

this facial growth

its calles recession coper

 

[RandomGREY]

its calles recession coper

just advance your "recession" when you have a condition called bimaxillary protrusion theory. Yes, I have chin recession but not jaw recession, which is an easy fix

 

[Alexanderr]

yes, but in my case, it looks bad because the chin isnt protrusive so a simple wedge genio would suffice instead of annoying long correction process

Sure, but they would also have less full lips and less "anteface" look

I would say a lot of blacks suffer from having lips that look too big.

The protrusion also means you'll need more chin advancement to look non-recessed relative to someone with less protrusion. Still, I don't think no protrusion is ideal for blacks, but it should be somewhat minimal.

Getting the protrusion treated can also reduce/remove a 'gummy smile' if you have one.

Then there's also the ''ape'' look they can suffer from due to having too much protrusion.

Overall, I think for a lot of blacks, getting protrusion treated and then a chin advancement seems best.

 

[Deleted member 18582]

yes, but in my case, it looks bad because the chin isnt protrusive so a simple wedge genio would suffice instead of annoying long correction process

Sure, but they would also have less full lips and less "anteface" look

OK, i was just thrown off by your language. Bimaxillary protrusion refers to when you have that prominent lip appearance because of dramatically outward pointing incisors. Anteface refers to when the maxilla and mandible are forward grown enough beyond that line and and often but not always comes alongside that upturned philtrum + prominent lip appearance. It sounds to me like you are trying to get an anteface look rather than a "camouflaged bimaxillary retrusion look."


I agree though that you would better have a genioplasty than bimax. Your maxilla looks forward grown enough. The issues are the chin and the upper maxilla. I think infrazygos would help you a lot.

 

[aesthetic beauty]

my midface is recessed ik, and yes everyone i posted does have bimaxillary protrusion. An example of someone without bimaxillary protrusion:
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Compared to
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You can see how the lips protrude from the face - and hes not even black.

He has full lips that isn't what bimaxillary protrusion is. Bimaxillary protruison is when the maxilla protrudes too far forward in relation to the mandible.

vs

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[RandomGREY]

He has full lips that isn't what bimaxillary protrusion is. Bimaxillary protruison is when the maxilla is when the maxilla protrudes too far forward in relation to the mandible.

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Those lips are caused by bimaxillary protrusion. Promise. You are cross referencing models w slight protrusion to nearly deformed people with extreme protrusion. Mild-Moderate Protrusion can look good if chin is advanced sufficiently.

 

[aesthetic beauty]

Those lips are caused by bimaxillary protrusion. Promise. You are cross referencing models w slight protrusion to nearly deformed people with extreme protrusion. Mild-Moderate Protrusion can look good if chin is advanced sufficiently.

You can just look at their dental arches and see they don't have bimaxillary protrusion. They are just very forward grown. Their maxilla doesn't protrude which is why the arch is entirely straight and looks properly aligned when compared to the mandible.

Also, full lips are not caused by bimaxillary protrusion. Different people have different lip sizes and fullness based on their genetics. Is Jolie recessed? What about Hexum?

 

[aesthetic beauty]

my midface is recessed ik, and yes everyone i posted does have bimaxillary protrusion. An example of someone without bimaxillary protrusion:
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Compared to
View attachment 2410273View attachment 2410276

You can see how the lips protrude from the face - and hes not even black.

Its your chin that is recessed.

just advance your "recession" when you have a condition called bimaxillary protrusion theory. Yes, I have chin recession but not jaw recession, which is an easy fix

Your chin is apart of your jaw. That is why you are recessed, your overgrown maxilla is pushing your jaw back into your face.

my midface is recessed ik, and yes everyone i posted does have bimaxillary protrusion. An example of someone without bimaxillary protrusion:
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Compared to
View attachment 2410273View attachment 2410276

You can see how the lips protrude from the face - and hes not even black.

You cannot be a top model with bimaxillary protrusion. Even a little bit can destroy your face.
PMC4362187

 

[RandomGREY]

Ik my chin is recessed, that’s why I’m getting a Genio. The point of the post is that In my case or ppl like me with mild protrusion getting a Genio is better than getting the protrusion corrected in order to have to profile of the biracial models I posted.

 

[thereallegend]

let your wisdom teeth grow in

 

[VenatorLuparius]

I agree, some bimax protrusion is not a failo as long as chin is parallel.

However from the front people can tell if you have it, in your case it's moderate and nothing to worry about. Mine looked disgusting because of my recessed chin.

 

[ConfusedBolivian]

Also yes ik my side profile sucks but somehow my jaw is good from front.

Recessed

 

[aesthetic beauty]

Ik my chin is recessed, that’s why I’m getting a Genio. The point of the post is that In my case or ppl like me with mild protrusion getting a Genio is better than getting the protrusion corrected in order to have to profile of the biracial models I posted.

You won’t get the side profile of those models because they don’t have bimaxillary protrusion and their maxillas aren't recessing their face and lowering their gonial angle. The best you can hope for is this.

Ik my chin is recessed, that’s why I’m getting a Genio. The point of the post is that In my case or ppl like me with mild protrusion getting a Genio is better than getting the protrusion corrected in order to have to profile of the biracial models I posted.

You are correct that slding genio or a chin filler would be better for you aesthetically, but you still need to fix your bimaxillary protrusion. It is not something you can just ignore. You need to get this and then do chin filler or genio.
PMC7668059

 

[RandomGREY]

You won’t get the side profile of those models because they don’t have bimaxillary protrusion and their maxillas aren't recessing their face and lowering their gonial angle. The best you can hope for is this.
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You are correct that slding genio or a chin filler would be better for you aesthetically, but you still need to fix your bimaxillary protrusion. It is not something you can just ignore. You need to get this and then do chin filler or genio.
PMC7668059

Look at my morph and 3d plan, bringing the chin forward creates a harmonious profile. Yes the lips still protrude but it ends up looking like the example profiles I showed. It looks like a normal anteface besides my infra recession. Besides I don't want to extract teeth to bring back my protrusion because it is mild and extractions lead to bone loss. It is normal for blacks and mullattos to have some degree of protrusion.

 

[Krakowski]

Over for us whitebois with this type of growth.
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Cant even properly close my fucking mouth without looking like a homosexual chimpanzee

Downwardgrowth is so subhuman, but I am even worse than you.

 

[Wishful]

Look at my morph and 3d plan, bringing the chin forward creates a harmonious profile. Yes the lips still protrude but it ends up looking like the example profiles I showed. It looks like a normal anteface besides my infra recession. Besides I don't want to extract teeth to bring back my protrusion because it is mild and extractions lead to bone loss. It is normal for blacks and mullattos to have some degree of protrusion.

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What App is that?

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Downwardgrowth is so subhuman, but I am even worse than you.

Nah, downward growth looks good as long as your frankfurt plane is alright

My issue is bimaxillary protrusion which makes it hard to close my lips. Its very fixable tho as I have gaps in my teeth

 

[RAMU KAKA]

Nah, downward growth looks good as long as your frankfurt plane is alright

My issue is bimaxillary protrusion which makes it hard to close my lips. Its very fixable tho as I have gaps in my teeth

Wouldn't closing those natural gaps recess our maxilla tho?

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Wouldn't closing those natural gaps recess our maxilla tho?

Would only make the lips appear less protrusive which would look better on me anyways

 

[RAMU KAKA]

I think we're kinda in the same boat op? Gonial angle above average but fucked up profile like jaw and infraorbitals recession, canine protrusion? What do you say

 

[Deleted member 27660]

You won’t get the side profile of those models because they don’t have bimaxillary protrusion and their maxillas aren't recessing their face and lowering their gonial angle. The best you can hope for is this.
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You are correct that slding genio or a chin filler would be better for you aesthetically, but you still need to fix your bimaxillary protrusion. It is not something you can just ignore. You need to get this and then do chin filler or genio.
PMC7668059

top 5 user for me

 

[aesthetic beauty]

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I think we're kinda in the same boat op? Gonial angle above average but fucked up profile like jaw and infraorbitals recession, canine protrusion? What do you say

What do your teeth look like?

 

[Blackgymmax]

Jfl you're subhuman. I need to get on discord w you fr

 

[Blackgymmax]

You need a genio tho your bimax protrusion isn't horrid. If you remove it you might end up looking Indian or something at this point

 

[Deleted member 30679]

Jfl you're subhuman. I need to get on discord w your fr

Fucking black nigger

 

[RAMU KAKA]

What do your teeth look like?

Although the upper ones are straight from front

 

[RandomGREY]

Jfl you're subhuman. I need to get on discord w you fr

Plz lmaoo
Literally name ur price

 

[RandomGREY]

You need a genio tho your bimax protrusion isn't horrid. If you remove it you might end up looking Indian or something at this point

yeah plus i don’t wanna loose jaw material through extractions. as my wide jaw is like my only good trait. Do u think I need infras and rhino as well?
Is there hope for me?

 

[Blackgymmax]

yeah plus i don’t wanna loose jaw material through extractions. as my wide jaw is like my only good trait. Do u think I need infras and rhino as well?
Is there hope for me?

Infras yes
Rhino
I mean why not? a nice Rhino makes anyone look slightly better

 

[RandomGREY]

Infras yes
Rhino
I mean why not? a nice Rhino makes anyone look slightly better

Thanks, rlly appreciate.
Would you suggest anything else? Eye work?

 

[IlDux]

You won’t get the side profile of those models because they don’t have bimaxillary protrusion and their maxillas aren't recessing their face and lowering their gonial angle. The best you can hope for is this.
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You are correct that slding genio or a chin filler would be better for you aesthetically, but you still need to fix your bimaxillary protrusion. It is not something you can just ignore. You need to get this and then do chin filler or genio.
PMC7668059

he didn’t do anything to the nose right? it was just a bimax (plus genio?) that made him upturn his nose?

 

[Unsh]

People have been saying that blacks with bimaxillary protrusion need to get extractions, but I disagree in moderate cases. Take a look at the following model
View attachment 2410239
You can see the three lines, one at the front of the eye, one at the brow ridge and one at the tip of the nose. As long as the bimaxillary protrusion doesn't exceed that tip, imo it might be best simply to advance the chin to that line.

In my case

Advanced Accordingly



More examples of gl people with this facial growth
View attachment 2410244View attachment 2410245


Do you guys think this is a good idea in my case? Would the labiomental fold be a problem?

I have the same thing, I had a ASO planned

 

[Unsh]

let your wisdom teeth grow in

what is the use of growing these teeth?

 

[Deleted member 24770]

Over for us whitebois with this type of growth.
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Cant even properly close my fucking mouth without looking like a homosexual chimpanzee

Im curry with the same jfl my aryan genes cucked me wish i was 100% dravidian and have proper occlusion

 

[Deleted member 27660]

I agree, some bimax protrusion is not a failo as long as chin is parallel.

However from the front people can tell if you have it, in your case it's moderate and nothing to worry about. Mine looked disgusting because of my recessed chin.

did u just get genio? i’m wondering how to approach, would rather avoid extractions

 

[Deleted member 27660]

I have the same thing, I had a ASO planned

did u not go with it? what happened? genio instead?