CHIN = WIN

[Deleted member 23772]

If you have no chin, you can't win. I wouldn't even have found this site if I had a chin. Jaw is fucking law, the rest is cope. Muh height muh jbw muh physique muh eyes is prize muh hair muh lean. All useless if no chin.

Andrew Tate disagrees

 

[vaninskybird]

Meeks mogs.

I agree

First thing I said was that a pretty chin was important and excessive ogreness is not attractive.

But his chin is not good, he just gets haloed by everything else

 

[datboijj]

Chin is a part of the jaw YOU FUCKING DUMB FUCKING IDIOT

thare are well defined jaws with outward gonions but still no chin

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Andrew Tate disagrees

Just be the most googled man on the entire planet, multi-millionaire, gigastatusmaxxed, 6'3, gymcelled since 20 years back to compensate for 1 cm of bone bro.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

I agree

But his chin is not good, he just gets haloed by everything else

Just be gigaüberhandsome in every area of the entire face to compensate for a feature that is not even particularly bad, strawmen are insane copes tbh because you know it's a hyperbole.

 

[vaninskybird]

Just be gigaüberhandsome in every area of the entire face to compensate for a feature that is not even particularly bad, strawmen are insane copes tbh because you know it's a hyperbole.

I don't see how this is a hyperbole nor a strawman fallacy

You say that my chin is ogre an not good but the same would apply to this guy here if he was more bloated with a thinner jaw

As I said ogre, surpasses lower lip and non defined front shape. Next.
This is a chin you can't lose with.
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His chin is good because it's haloed by the rest of his face, not because it's better than mine by nature

 

[HarrierDuBois]

I don't see how this is a hyperbole nor a strawman fallacy

You say that my chin is ogre an not good but the same would apply to this guy here if he was more bloated with a thinner jaw

His chin is good because it's haloed by the rest of his face, not because it's better than mine by nature

His chin is way way more harmonic and attractive than yours. Perfect vertical line that touches most projected part of chin and lower lip. Also he has great front shape to it, masculine looking. Yours is just round and inharmonious. Rest of his face is not great esp eye area. Pretty chin carries always.

 

[vaninskybird]

His chin is way way more harmonic and attractive than yours. Perfect vertical line that touches most projected part of chin and lower lip. Also he has great front shape to it, masculine looking. Yours is just round and inharmonious. Rest of his face is not great esp eye area. Pretty chin carries always.

Bro, what?

His chin is "better" purely because he's better looking overall
If i was leaner with a wider jaw, i too would get haloed from mumbai to andromeda

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Bro, what?
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His chin is "better" purely because he's better looking overall
If i was leaner with a wider jaw, i too would get haloed from mumbai to andromeda

I legit said the opposite, his chin carries him despite rest of face being unideal especially eye area. His chin mogs since ideal pretty chins are as close in projection to lower lip as possible. Your chin exceeds that ratio disproportionately which is not pretty. His front shape is also pretty and sharp while yours isn't.

 

[vaninskybird]

I legit said the opposite, his chin carries him despite rest of face being unideal especially eye area.

That is simply not true, his jaw is already top tier and his eye area is not even bad, overall he has good harmony

His front shape is also pretty and sharp while yours isn't.

Sharpness has nothing to do with chin, it's about bloat and skull size

His chin mogs since ideal pretty chins are as close in projection to lower lip as possible

That is debatable

CHIN ≠ WIN
It's all bout the overall attractiveness
If i was a bretty boy with top tier jaw and eye area, my chin would have been perfect

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Sharpness has nothing to do with chin, it's about bloat and skull size

Pretty chins are either sharp/pointy or square. Not round.

That is debatable

As long as nose is not overgrown it is always ideal.

CHIN ≠ WIN
It's all bout the overall attractiveness
If i was a bretty boy with top tier jaw and eye area, my chin would have been perfect

Your chin would never look good on prettyboys since it's overgrown. Maybe you could pull off gymcel looks but not a single prettyboy has your chin. Prettyboys have pointy chins.

 

[vaninskybird]

Pretty chins are either sharp/pointy or square. Not round.

Your chin would never look good on prettyboys since it's overgrown. Maybe you could pull off gymcel looks but not a single prettyboy has your chin. Prettyboys have pointy chins.

And i'm telling you, my chin would also be pointy if i was less bloated ( bonus with a wider jaw )
All the guys you showed me are chad territory, you didn't shown a single inkwell that gets carried by perfect chin because there is no such thing

CHIN ≠ WIN
The 2 guys above would have been pretty even with recessed chins

 

[HarrierDuBois]

And i'm telling you, my chin would also be pointy if i was less bloated ( bonus with a wider jaw )
All the guys you showed me are chad territory, you didn't shown a single inkwell that gets carried by perfect chin because there is no such thing

CHIN ≠ WIN
The 2 guys above would have been pretty even with recessed chins

Sure those guys are gl either way. None of these guys would be even pushing HTN without their chins though.

 

[vaninskybird]

Sure those guys are gl either way. None of these guys would be even pushing HTN without their chins though.

The first guy should not be in the same category as the other 2, he mogs them into oblivion
And i fail to see how much of a halo is chin for the other 2, they would have looked exactly the same from the front with a recessed chin
How does the 2 guys have a pointier and sharper chin than me? If they were fatter their chin would also be more "rounded"

Chin is more like an accessory, trivial, compared to jaw, eyes and harmony

 

[HarrierDuBois]

The first guy should not be in the same category as the other 2, he mogs them into oblivion
And i fail to see how much of a halo is chin for the other 2, they would have looked exactly the same from the front with a recessed chin
How does the 2 guys have a pointier and sharper chin than me? If they were fatter their chin would also be more "rounded"

Chin is more like an accessory, trivial, compared to jaw, eyes and harmony

None of these guys chins exceed the lower lip line so they look better. If you've ever been 15% bodyfat and don't chinmog them then stop using that argument.

 

[vaninskybird]

None of these guys chins exceed the lower lip line so they look better.

It's not a good profile pic so i can't assess accurately this information and they would have looked exactly the same from the front if their chin were recessed or exceed the lower lip line

If you've ever been 15% bodyfat and don't chinmog them then stop using that argument.

Unfortunately, i have never been close to that bf % , i'm trying to do better, so hopefully i get there

 

[HarrierDuBois]

It's not a good profile pic so i can't assess accurately this information and they would have looked exactly the same from the front if their chin were recessed or exceed the lower lip line

You are aware that the rating goes down even though front remains similar right? I look upper MTN from the front but LTN from side due to chin. Also recessed chins always lose height in front perspective. Here are the guys I sents side profiles if you want to measure:

Unfortunately, i have never been close to that bf % , i'm trying to do better, so hopefully i get there

Stop speculating then ffs come with actual proof.

 

[FrenchChad]

Yes and i replied with this

How can you have a perfect chin if it gets dragged down by the other stuff

Meeks also mogs me into oblivion, but his chin is incel tier and mine is better
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He have a bad chin projection from side but from front he have a top-tier shape and width, bad example.

 

[vaninskybird]

after / before

This pic is to show you the effect of bloat on the chin
Just because he was fat doesn't mean his chin was rounded or bad
His chin looks more defined now but it doesn't carry him because his overall looks is meh

Stop speculating then ffs come with actual proof.

You are aware that the rating goes down even though front remains similar right? I look upper MTN from the front but LTN from side due to chin. Also recessed chins always lose height in front perspective.

Side profile is not that important, front has priority

Here are the guys I sents side profiles if you want to measure:

I would argue that they would look better with more chin projection, especially the second guy

 

[HarrierDuBois]

after / before

This pic is to show you the effect of bloat on the chin
Just because he was fat doesn't mean his chin was rounded or bad
His chin looks more defined now but it doesn't carry him because his overall looks is meh

Chin shape is same only jaw changed, chin is practically all bone.

Side profile is not that important, front has priority

Front is not that important irl when people see you 90% in 3/4 and side view. Direct front view is rare. Profile is crucial irl.

I would argue that they would look better with more chin projection, especially the second guy

Male gaze cope. I'm done with this shit.

 

[vaninskybird]

He have a bad chin projection from side but from front he have a top-tier shape and width, bad example.

Could you provide a better example?

Male gaze cope. I'm done with this shit.

And i could say "aspie ratios cope"

he would look worse with your lower lip argument

Chin shape is same only jaw changed, chin is practically all bone.

Yes, it's the same, but it looks more rounded because he's fatter, do i have to explain how fat works?

Front is not that important irl when people see you 90% in 3/4 and side view. Direct front view is rare. Profile is crucial irl.

Cap, when you're on a date and the hoe sits across you, she's gonna see the front
I'm gonna use Meeks as an example again, by saying that his profile is subpar but it didn't matter

 

[HarrierDuBois]

And i could say "aspie ratios cope"

he would look worse with your lower lip argument

Are you retarded? Of course he would look worse with lower lip augmentation he needs boneshaving in the chin for balance and not look like a shark. You know jack about looks if you thought lower lip increase was the way to go here.

Yes, it's the same, but it looks more rounded because he's fatter, do i have to explain how fat works?

No you don't but your chin does not have a good shape since fat is usually not stored in the mentolabial fold and yours is not good.

Cap, when you're on a date and the hoe sits across you, she's gonna see the front
I'm gonna use Meeks as an example again, by saying that his profile is subpar but it didn't matter

3/4 is what you see 90% of the time still.

 

[vaninskybird]

Are you retarded? Of course he would look worse with lower lip augmentation he needs boneshaving in the chin for balance and not look like a shark. You know jack about looks if you thought lower lip increase was the way to go here.

That's not what i meant, when i said "lower lip argument" i meant your argument about chin being aligned with the lower lip, he would look worse if his chin was the way deem perfect

No you don't but your chin does not have a good shape since fat is usually not stored in the mentolabial fold and yours is not good.

It is perfectly fine, it's not something detrimental and i couldn't care less about mentolabial angle, i believe it's good enough, what makes my chin look more rounded is the fat around the cheeks and jaw

3/4 is what you see 90% of the time still.

Maybe, but it's at a glance. If you engage in conversation with someone, most of the time is gonna be frontal, you can't talk with someone by constantly showing your side profile like an aspie

 

[nitesik]

If only I had that level of facial leanness and bonemass.

everyone in vinland saga are fucking bonemoggers. Literally ideal masc phenos

 

[juste]

wide chin = win

 

[HarrierDuBois]

wide chin = win

Pointy chin can also be win, just have one at all.

 

[juste]

Pointy chin can also be win, just have one at all.

no you need WIDE chin
spherical chin = subhuman

 

[HarrierDuBois]

no you need WIDE chin
spherical chin = subhuman

Spherical is subhuman, triangular pointy is not.

 

[User49]

What the actual fuck are you serious? Name ONE ratio affected by brow density and infraorbital support.

orbital vector. Also ratios isn’t everything for eye area. Ur lashes, brows, color are shit which is way more important. These are indicators of youth and health.

 

[User49]

I don't see how this is a hyperbole nor a strawman fallacy

You say that my chin is ogre an not good but the same would apply to this guy here if he was more bloated with a thinner jaw

His chin is good because it's haloed by the rest of his face, not because it's better than mine by nature

He’s mixed. His chin shouldn’t be that protrusive.

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

So over for me

 

[Deleted member 23157]

Chin is cope. WHAT YOU need is good gonial angle.

 

[Son of gigachad]

this is john hamm in madmen. his side profile and 3/4 is where u can see his gonial angle usually and its not subhuman by any means, but nothing mogger either. jaw projection/muscle definition there is weak af not sure if body fat distribution plays into it, but from the front it looks bordeline non existent. ask yourself ( or any of the millions of women fiending over him ) in a split second, does he look good. yes, he does. now, imagine him ( or morph him ) with an non mogger chin. does he look worse? yes, he does. now imagine him with a fully recessed non existent chin. well, looks like our multiple emmy award winning gigachad was reduced to dust, and u can try the same experiment with george clooney or any other chin mogger. jaw isnt truly law, but chin is ( if u are a chincel and u havent transplanted a viking beard on ur face or glued your pubes or smth, what are u even doing )

 

[HarrierDuBois]

orbital vector. Also ratios isn’t everything for eye area. Ur lashes, brows, color are shit which is way more important. These are indicators of youth and health.

Pic I sent was old and in bad light. My eyebrows have now doubled in density since I've been on minox and my color is T10/light brown with strong limbal rings irl. But yes my orbital vector is a big issue which I have already been researching infraorbital implants for, any advice for infra implants?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Chin is cope. WHAT YOU need is good gonial angle.

I have good gonial angle and tall ramus, legit all about chin.

 

[Deleted member 23157]

I have good gonial angle and tall ramus, legit all about chin.

What if you have narrow jawline with big chin?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

jaw isnt truly law, but chin is

Same as Maher, Gandy, and O'Pry, unideal jaws but ideal chins. Hanm is a perfect example because he was one of the guys who came to mind as well for someone legit slaying exclusively due to chin.

 

[Bashan]

What if you have narrow jawline with big chin?

Joker type shit. Genius trait.

 

[Bashan]

Chin is all

 

[HarrierDuBois]

What if you have narrow jawline with big chin?

Jon Hamm, Gandy, Maher are all guys with non broad jaws carried by chins.

 

[loksr]

It's all about the eyes

unironically it's not
guys with perfect a10 hunter eyes who are chinless look like serial killers and not in the good way
I've personally met a guy like that and I wouldn't blame you for not believing me because I wouldn't believe anyone who said that, but it's true

but how it actually works is, provided you don't have any MASSIVE flaws, if you have EITHER a good lower third OR a good eye area, you're probably going to be good looking regardless of anything else.

 

[forevermirin]

unless its literally subhuman, no one facial feature can break a face as much as eyes. an ltn chin with everything else good would still mog.

 

[Deleted member 17872]

unironically it's not
guys with perfect a10 hunter eyes who are chinless look like serial killers and not in the good way

The serial killer in question

 

[Son of gigachad]

Same as Maher, Gandy, and O'Pry, unideal jaws but ideal chins. Hanm is a perfect example because he was one of the guys who came to mind as well for someone legit slaying exclusively due to chin.

i remember this one morph of john kortajarena with a left and right pic not sure where it is rn , all that was changed was the chin, and not even by much at all, mostly forward projection reduced. i instantly thought the entire face looked worse, and it took me a good minute to realise it was only a chin morph, and this had happened another time. all this being said, not sure how old u are but iv seen indications that T/DHT maxxing might save a chincel in his early twenties, mid to late twenties if ur super lucky.

 

[loksr]

The serial killer in question
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brutal you have a woman's eyeballs if you think that's chinless

 

[Son of gigachad]

The serial killer in question
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side profile i remember from that dating video i saw here that he does look kinda recessed in his lower third, but jfl if u think meeks looks anywhere near true chincel from the front ( if i understood ur post correctly )

 

[Deleted member 17872]

brutal you have a woman's eyeballs if you think that's chinless

 

[HarrierDuBois]

The serial killer in question
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Who has a 99th percentile chin?

 

[loksr]

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side profile is cope
brad pitt proved that a long ass time ago

meaning this:

is not chinless

and this:

is.

 

[Deleted member 17872]

side profile i remember from that dating video i saw here that he does look kinda recessed in his lower third, but jfl if u think meeks looks anywhere near true chincel from the front ( if i understood ur post correctly )

I was exaggerating but small chin is one of the most overrated failo on PSL. Many goodlooking guys have short or recessed chins or both like Johnny Depp. As long as you are not chinless you are kinda safe.

I don't understand why @loksr says being chinless is unattractive. No shit if you don't have a chin you are not unattractive but as long as you are above average it's not gonna affect you much.

Now look at Rami Malek. Great lower third objectively and good coloring but he's barely above average because of shit eyes.

Who has a 99th percentile chin?

If that's 99th percentile to you then i'm sorry for you.