Christian Q n A thread

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Q n A for all the pipo here who have Qs.

If I ignore your question it’s because you asked a dumb question or it can be easily googled, for example “How is god real if bad thing happen”

Asserting value judgement statements without a valid justification for said Value leads to absurdities and an arbitrary criterion on what’s “Bad” or “Good” making it meaningless and thefore subjective. TLDR, I can simply say “God is Good because bad thing happen” and you cannot logically argue a case for we are equally right .


So yea bring it on my sons I don’t mind even Mohammedens asking questions I won’t discriminate inshallah

 

[Hernan]

why do niggers exist? why hasnt God stopped the Jews or helped us with that?

 

[Mainlander]

I dont believe in Free Will because of determinism

So the everything about the religion doesnt make any sense

 

[buddhistking]

When will you stop following the path of the many and join the path of the few brotha?

 

[ToryToad]

Opinion on jews ?

 

[Beanermaxxer]

Why do you believe in Christianity and not another religion?

 

[iblamexyz]

waterslop question's don't bother answering

bump great thread ping me if you have question's about Christianity

jfl I won't answer racist or dumbass remarks

 

[iblamexyz]

Why do you believe in Christianity and not another religion?

John 14:6 - Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

 

[Beanermaxxer]

John 14:6 - Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Imagine asking why and getting ‘because the book says so.’ That’s not faith that’s intellectual laziness dressed up as spirituality. If you were born in Pakistan you’d be quoting the Quran. If you were born in India, you’d be talking about Krishna. You weren’t ‘chosen by Christ,’ you were just born in a ZIP code with a Bible in every hotel drawer.

You didn’t find the truth, you were handed it like default character settings. And now you’re acting like citing a verse makes you enlightened when really you’re just parroting what your parents and Sunday school fed you.

Belief isn’t proof. If location changes your ‘eternal truth,’ then it was never universal to begin with, it was just indoctrination with local flavor.

Let’s be honest, most dudes cling to Christianity because they want structure without thinking. It’s looksmaxxing for the soul: slap on a belief system, feel morally superior, avoid confronting the void. You didn’t choose the truth, you inherited it and never questioned it.

 

[aussiecel]

I dont believe in Free Will because of determinism

So the everything about the religion doesnt make any sense

Determinism is completely consistent with Christianity. I am a Calvinist and determinist, and we believe that God has predestined who will be saved and who will be damned; we do not have free will.

This is not a heterodox viewpoint in Christianity either. The Thomist school, which is undoubtedly the most prominent within the Catholic Church, holds a similar view on predestination. Furthermore, because the vast majority of Protestant traditions outside of Lutheranism and Anglicanism are descended from Calvinism, most Protestants you meet will believe in predestination, if they grasp their church's doctrine.

 

[Klasik616]

Morals are subjective bro? I thought we had this debate before. How God exists but morals don't relate to him, answer @PrinceLuenLeoncur @ikramy. Isn't good or bad relative to something else?

 

[Mainlander]

Determinism is completely consistent with Christianity. I am a Calvinist and determinist, and we believe that God has predstined who will be saved and who will be damned; we do not have free will.

This is not a heterodox viewpoint in Christianity either. The Thomist school, which is undoubtedly the most prominent in the Catholic Church, believes in comparable predestination. Furthermore, because the vast majority of Protestant traditions outside of Lutheranism and Anglicanism are descended from Calvinism, most Protestants you meet will believe in predestination, if they grasp their church's doctrine.

I was and in some way kinda still am a christian

And i have always tried to connect determinism with Christianity


But what do you mean with damned Im not sure if im misunderstanding this because if i dont I have thought the same way

 

[Hernan]

God made everyone equal He says but isnt it clear that its bs?

 

[aussiecel]

I was and in some way kinda still am a christian

And i have always tried to connect determinism with Christianity


But what do you mean with damned Im not sure if im misunderstanding this because if i dont I have thought the same way

People are damned to hell simply because of God's will, regardless of their behaviour. Of course, a person who lives a holy life likely will receive salvation, but we cannot know or presume this; it is solely God's plan.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

why do niggers exist? why hasnt God stopped the Jews or helped us with that?

Blacks exist because God created them in his image.

I’m assuming you mean then when you say “Niggers”

As for Jews well that’s a good one but honestly neither are religious questions but I’ll say the reason why Jews rule the world is partly due to gods innate gifts he bestowed upon them in his grace and mercy as the Jews may be divorced from god but he still loves them

Read Hosea 1 and 2 for more

 

[Klasik616]

God made everyone equal He says but isnt it clear that its bs?

Human rights also thinks all humans are born equal in something.

 

[aussiecel]

God made everyone equal He says but isnt it clear that its bs?

You are misinterpreting it. Everyone has an equal soul, but we do not share other characteristics.

1 Corinthians 15:39-41 (ESV):

"39 For not all flesh is the same, but there is one kind for humans, another for animals, another for birds, and another for fish. 40 There are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies, but the glory of the heavenly is of one kind, and the glory of the earthly is of another. 41 There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for star differs from star in glory."

 

[iblamexyz]

Imagine asking why and getting ‘because the book says so.’ That’s not faith that’s intellectual laziness dressed up as spirituality. If you were born in Pakistan you’d be quoting the Quran. If you were born in India, you’d be talking about Krishna. You weren’t ‘chosen by Christ,’ you were just born in a ZIP code with a Bible in every hotel drawer.

You didn’t find the truth, you were handed it like default character settings. And now you’re acting like citing a verse makes you enlightened when really you’re just parroting what your parents and Sunday school fed you.

Belief isn’t proof. If location changes your ‘eternal truth,’ then it was never universal to begin with, it was just indoctrination with local flavor.

Let’s be honest, most dudes cling to Christianity because they want structure without thinking. It’s looksmaxxing for the soul: slap on a belief system, feel morally superior, avoid confronting the void. You didn’t choose the truth, you inherited it and never questioned it.

this an interesting standpoint

although we have met thru org

this is incredibly disrespectful to assume my side of story without even hearing it

which you are not wrong

my intro to Christ was thru my best friend (we move live and been brought up in the uk)

although I may add the uk isn't Christian country

I went 17 years without hearing the gospel

my parents and my family claim to be Christian yet do not follow a Christ like life

you aren't accounting for the Arab or Indian Christian

of course I will quote a verse from the book of god

because god word is better than mine

again very disrespect to assume I never questioned it

BECASUE TRUST ME

I did over and over again

I am very informed on Christianity and Islam

I will agree wth the Looksmaxxing of the soul

but you, yourself most likely don't believe or rejected god for whatever reason and never gave him a true go

''you were handed it like default character settings''

never went to Sunday school

never took school serious to begin with failed school

parents did a very bad job at telling me about Jesus and told basic info

I KNOW ABOUT CHRIST

because I did my own research

yes my best friend told me about it

but I am not a sheep

we talked and discussed about god for a whole year

before I even made a decision

so therefore your thread is wrong about me

 

[Mainlander]

People are damned to hell simply because of God's will, regardless of their behaviour. Of course, a person who lives a holy life likely will receive salvation, but we cannot know or presume this; it is solely God's plan.

And what is hell ?

Is it the place you are going after death?

Or the fact that you dont believe in God on earth?

 

[Hernan]

Blacks exist because God created them in his image.

I’m assuming you mean then when you say “Niggers”

As for Jews well that’s a good one but honestly neither are religious questions but I’ll say the reason why Jews rule the world is partly due to gods innate gifts he bestowed upon them in his grace and mercy as the Jews may be divorced from god but he still loves them

Read Hosea 1 and 2 for more

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Yeah and why no extra grace and mercy for us? doesnt he love us all equally?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

I dont believe in Free Will because of determinism

So the everything about the religion doesnt make any sense

I don’t get this? This ain’t even a question out you stating your beliefs lmfao

When will you stop following the path of the many and join the path of the few brotha?

Christianity is the truth, I don’t join or leave religion based on my own materialistic cringe tribalism. I go based off evidence.


God isn’t generic god is either real or not real, all religions are either false or one is true no in between. I have chosen the correct one due to this one having the most evidence on its side and it being true.

People are damned to hell simply because of God's will, regardless of their behaviour. Of course, a person who lives a holy life likely will receive salvation, but we cannot know or presume this; it is solely God's plan.

I do not believe in Calvinism

You send yourself to hell by not wanting to unite with god he doesn’t send you there. You want god to force you to be with him for all eternity despite you in your life making it very clear you want nothing to do with him?

God works in mysterious ways but still even he desires for you to make your choice and that can sway him. Amos in the OT begged god to forgive Isreal and god said “Had you not begged I would had destroyed Isreal” the point stands you don’t know the alien ineffable mind of god so it’s best not to try ponder on things beyond our comprehension this is also what god told Job.

 

[aussiecel]

And what is hell ?

Is it the place you are going after death?

Or the fact that you dont believe in God on earth?

If you are not saved, you will go to hell.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

And what is hell ?

Is it the place you are going after death?

Or the fact that you dont believe in God on earth?

The first actual normal question God bless you brother

Hell in eastern Christianity aka true authentic original Christianity is not just a place but a state of mind a state of spiritual death and how you’ll experience/react to gods divine energies his divine life based on your spiritual state upon death.

We all end up in the same place during the Eschaton (Resurrection) but depending on how we lived out life it’ll determine how you experience gods life. So a believer who followed god will experience the radiance of god as a brilliant warmth and peace, whilst an sinner hater will experience the VERY SAME warmth and peace as an blinding searing light that will burn them like fire.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

I don’t get it? God has grace on all humans but Jews well let’s just say they are not having the best off times and will need their gifts to get past being genocided every decade by a new group

God still loves them though as Romans mentions. But the reality is they aren’t the “Chosen” people anymore that’s Christian’s

However you forget what Jesus says in Matt 10. He mentions how those who choose him will suffer in this world and won’t prosper here as a guarantee. Read the book of Ecclesiasties/Job for more on this. These are called the Wisdom books.

Yeah and why no extra grace and mercy for us? doesnt he love us all equally?

 

[Hernan]

I don’t get it? God has grace on all humans

jews apparently get extra.

but Jews well let’s just say they are not having the best off times and will need their gifts to get past being genocided every decade by a new group

God still loves them though as Romans mentions. But the reality is they aren’t the “Chosen” people anymore that’s Christian’s

However you forget what Jesus says in Matt 10. He mentions how those who choose him will suffer in this world and won’t prosper here as a guarantee.

doesnt specify those who oppose him thrive or does it?

Read the book of Ecclesiasties/Job for more on this. These are called the Wisdom books.

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so basically God punishes those who follow him and rewards jewish satanists who kill people, destroy Europe and rape children?

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

jews apparently get extra.

doesnt specify those who oppose him thrive or does it?

so basically God punishes those who follow him and rewards jewish satanists who kill people, destroy Europe and rape children?

Well the books of wisdom explain in detail that bad things sometimes happen to good people and good things sometimes happen to bad people

I wouldn’t say Jews get extra when the whole world hates them, most people hate Jews tbh anti semetism is more common than black fatigue imo. Even in the gym yesterday people were openly shitting on them

Nope you misunderstood me. I never said god punishes his chosen and rewards those who hate him, I said that “shit happens”

Christian’s literally conquered the whole planet and the richest nations are Christian’s (or were lol) point is though shit happens

 

[Beanermaxxer]

this an interesting standpoint

although we have met thru org

this is incredibly disrespectful to assume my side of story without even hearing it

which you are not wrong

my intro to Christ was thru my best friend (we move live and been brought up in the uk)

although I may add the uk isn't Christian country

I went 17 years without hearing the gospel

my parents and my family claim to be Christian yet do not follow a Christ like life

you aren't accounting for the Arab or Indian Christian

of course I will quote a verse from the book of god

because god word is better than mine

again very disrespect to assume I never questioned it

BECASUE TRUST ME

I did over and over again

I am very informed on Christianity and Islam

I will agree wth the Looksmaxxing of the soul

but you, yourself most likely don't believe or rejected god for whatever reason and never gave him a true go

''you were handed it like default character settings''

never went to Sunday school

never took school serious to begin with failed school

parents did a very bad job at telling me about Jesus and told basic info

I KNOW ABOUT CHRIST

because I did my own research

yes my best friend told me about it

but I am not a sheep

we talked and discussed about god for a whole year

before I even made a decision

so therefore your thread is wrong about me

Fair, you’re clearly not totally uninformed and respect for being honest about your background. But here’s the reality check:

You still didn’t arrive at Christianity in a vacuum. The odds of you ‘discovering the truth’ just so happening to match the dominant religion of your environment are astronomically low if this were truly objective truth-seeking. Replace UK with Saudi Arabia, and odds are you’d be quoting Hadith instead of John. That’s not a dig at you that’s just how human psychology and cultural imprinting work.

You say you questioned it, good. But questioning within the confines of two Abrahamic faiths isn’t the same as unfiltered, cross-cultural philosophical exploration. Most people ‘search’ within what’s familiar, not what’s true.

You didn’t get beamed the gospel directly into your soul, your best friend, who was likely raised Christian, brought it to you. That’s still second-hand inheritance, just with a social rather than parental vector.

Quoting scripture as self-proof still falls flat, that’s circular logic. Imagine a Muslim saying, ‘The Quran is the truth because the Quran says so.’ You wouldn’t buy it. So why expect others to when you do the same with the Bible?





And don’t confuse conviction with objectivity. You can feel strongly about something and still be wrong. Billions do. The sincerity of your belief doesn’t override the statistical and cultural influence that shaped it.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Morals are subjective bro? I thought we had this debate before. How God exists but morals don't relate to him, answer @PrinceLuenLeoncur @ikramy. Isn't good or bad relative to something else?

We have and you still failed to provide an account for “morality” so you lost. Unless you provide an account it’ll forever remain something that isn’t real in your paradigm. If you take it to its logical conclusion you end up as an absolute nihilist

Fair, you’re clearly not totally uninformed and respect for being honest about your background. But here’s the reality check:

You still didn’t arrive at Christianity in a vacuum. The odds of you ‘discovering the truth’ just so happening to match the dominant religion of your environment are astronomically low if this were truly objective truth-seeking. Replace UK with Saudi Arabia, and odds are you’d be quoting Hadith instead of John. That’s not a dig at you that’s just how human psychology and cultural imprinting work.

You say you questioned it, good. But questioning within the confines of two Abrahamic faiths isn’t the same as unfiltered, cross-cultural philosophical exploration. Most people ‘search’ within what’s familiar, not what’s true.

You didn’t get beamed the gospel directly into your soul, your best friend, who was likely raised Christian, brought it to you. That’s still second-hand inheritance, just with a social rather than parental vector.

Quoting scripture as self-proof still falls flat, that’s circular logic. Imagine a Muslim saying, ‘The Quran is the truth because the Quran says so.’ You wouldn’t buy it. So why expect others to when you do the same with the Bible?





And don’t confuse conviction with objectivity. You can feel strongly about something and still be wrong. Billions do. The sincerity of your belief doesn’t override the statistical and cultural influence that shaped it.

Too lazy to refute or explain it but think god Jay dyer explains it

 

[vevcred2_0]

How can God and blackpill exist simultaneously

I think I have a good answer just wanted to hear your take on it lol

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

How can God and blackpill exist simultaneously

I think I have a good answer just wanted to hear your take on it lol

Blackpill is the reality of life.


The great fall from grace of Adam and Eve corrupted the universe and brought death despair and inequality into it. It wasn’t just a fall for humans but a fall for the cosmological order. Animals went from living together in harmony to hunting one another, humans went from being loving and kind to killing each other.


This is the consequence of the fall. This is why the Blackpill exists brother

 

[Deleted member 142629]

How can we accurately distinguish between genuine divine revelation and human imagination or psychological experiences in matters of faith?

 

[Beanermaxxer]

Too lazy to refute or explain it but think god Jay dyer explains it

‘I won’t explain my beliefs, go watch 3 hours of Jay Dyer content’ cope. Imagine needing a YouTube theologian to defend your worldview, that’s not faith, that’s outsourcing your brain. If you can’t articulate it yourself, you don’t believe it. You just subscribe to it like a podcast.

Don’t make a fucking Q&A thread if you are not going to answer with your own arguments.

 

[Beanermaxxer]

Blackpill is the reality of life.


The great fall from grace of Adam and Eve corrupted the universe and brought death despair and inequality into it. It wasn’t just a fall for humans but a fall for the cosmological order. Animals went from living together in harmony to hunting one another, humans went from being loving and kind to killing each other.


This is the consequence of the fall. This is why the Blackpill exists brother

So you’re telling me lions started mauling gazelles because two naked humans ate a fruit in a magic garden? Bro, that’s not blackpill, that’s biblical fanfiction.

You’re mixing ancient myth with internet nihilism and calling it ‘truth.’ The blackpill is about brutal biological realism, SMV, looks, status. Not cosmic apple lore. Evolution explains predation better than Eden ever did.

 

[iblamegenetics-]

i dont know whats wrong with me i keep shifting away im even kinda confused now idk i keep questioning gods reality and also i keep shifting away from him i need some help my body doesnt believe in god if u asked me 2-5 years ago do i believe in him id say with my heart yes now i force myself

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

‘I won’t explain my beliefs, go watch 3 hours of Jay Dyer content’ cope. Imagine needing a YouTube theologian to defend your worldview, that’s not faith, that’s outsourcing your brain. If you can’t articulate it yourself, you don’t believe it. You just subscribe to it like a podcast.

Don’t make a fucking Q&A thread if you are not going to answer with your own arguments.

I have done it far too much here I have debated every Muslim and GAYtheist in this site and won every single debate with no exception. But I’m very busy today I infact regret making this thread cos I don’t have the time today to make it ahahah but it is what it is oh fucking well

But yeah go watch that and you’ll see my view of just type “Jay dyer TAG”

Why bother debating it here again?

 

[Beanermaxxer]

i dont know whats wrong with me i keep shifting away im even kinda confused now idk i keep questioning gods reality and also i keep shifting away from him i need some help my body doesnt believe in god if u asked me 2-5 years ago do i believe in him id say with my heart yes now i force myself

Sounds like you’re being honest with yourself, and that’s not a bad thing. A lot of people go through phases where belief feels automatic, then suddenly it doesn’t. Questioning isn’t weakness, it’s part of growth.

It’s okay to admit that you don’t know. Forcing belief out of fear or guilt just builds resentment. If something’s true, it should hold up to questioning. If it doesn’t, maybe it wasn’t what you thought it was.

You don’t owe anyone a performance of faith. It’s better to be uncertain and honest than convinced and hollow. Keep asking questions, even uncomfortable ones. That’s how you get to whatever truth is actually yours.

 

[Beanermaxxer]

I have done it far too much here I have debated every Muslim and GAYtheist in this site and won every single debate with no exception. But I’m very busy today I infact regret making this thread cos I don’t have the time today to make it ahahah but it is what it is oh fucking well

But yeah go watch that and you’ll see my view of just type “Jay dyer TAG”

Why bother debating it here again?

Alright, but if your belief system only holds up when Jay Dyer explains it and not when you do, then it’s not really your worldview, it’s his.

If you’re too busy to defend it, cool. But telling people to just “go watch a guy online” while claiming you’ve won every debate doesn’t exactly scream confidence. Faith or any worldview, should be something you can stand on without outsourcing it to YouTube every time someone pushes back.

Some of us aren’t looking to “win debates,” we’re just trying to figure out what actually makes sense. If the truth needs a middleman, it might not be the truth.

 

[Deleted member 130915]

Genuine question here:

How do you, as a Christian, reconcile the ideas of free will and an omniscient/omnipotent god?

I’ve asked many Christians yet have never received an answer I found satisfying.

For example, one time I was just told that “God operates outside of this existence” or something like that.

However, I don’t see how the allows for free will, since the world itself, since the state of the world at any given point would still be exactly known and no other state could exist at that moment, even if God doesn’t operate on our “timeline”, since his knowledge would have been present at the creation of the world.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

i dont know whats wrong with me i keep shifting away im even kinda confused now idk i keep questioning gods reality and also i keep shifting away from him i need some help my body doesnt believe in god if u asked me 2-5 years ago do i believe in him id say with my heart yes now i force myself

It’s fine I suggest you look into Eastern Orthodoxy it has the answers to the questions you’re asking.

The GAYthiest idiot above me is just here to push people into nihilism. Ask yourself do you want to belive in something that says life and everything has no meaning and is pointless? Do you want to believe in something that cannot justify its own claims ? Even science relies on induction and identity over time which once again atheists cannot explain why it exists the way it does and how it exists. Do you REALLY REALLY want to follow something this stupid and illogical infact atheism literally contradicts the laws of logic

• Atheism = Materialism (usually): It assumes that only matter and physical processes exist.
• Logic is Abstract & Immaterial: The laws of logic (like the law of non-contradiction) are not material things — they aren’t located in space, time, or brains.
• Materialism Can’t Account for Abstract Laws:
  • If only physical things exist, then universal, unchanging, immaterial laws shouldn’t exist.
  • But logic is universal and unchanging — it applies everywhere and always.
• 
  
• Atheism is Self-Refuting:
  • Atheists use logic to argue against God.
  • But their worldview can’t justify the existence or authority of logic itself.
  • So they are borrowing logic from a worldview (theism) that can account for it.
• 
  
• Only Theism Grounds Logic:
  • In the Christian worldview, logic reflects the rational mind of God.
  • Therefore, logic has a foundation: it exists because it is grounded in God’s unchanging nature.

TLDR:
Therefore, atheism undermines itself — it uses tools (logic) that only make sense if God exists.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Alright, but if your belief system only holds up when Jay Dyer explains it and not when you do, then it’s not really your worldview, it’s his.

If you’re too busy to defend it, cool. But telling people to just “go watch a guy online” while claiming you’ve won every debate doesn’t exactly scream confidence. Faith or any worldview, should be something you can stand on without outsourcing it to YouTube every time someone pushes back.

Some of us aren’t looking to “win debates,” we’re just trying to figure out what actually makes sense. If the truth needs a middleman, it might not be the truth.

“Whatever truth is yours”

Perfectly justified why Gaytheism leads to mental brain rott and retardstion.


Either it’s true or not. Truth is OBJECTIVE but ofc in your dumb gay paradigm you can’t even say what true and false because you can’t even trust your own cognitive faculties to tell you what is real .

I don’t actually like you tbh, I actually despise you. I hate you, you dare come on my thread try to dishearten people with your nihilistic bullshit you son of the devil if I ever saw you I’d beat the living shit outta you fuck off my thread cunt and forever enjoy being in my ignore

 

[iblamegenetics-]

It’s fine I suggest you look into Eastern Orthodoxy it has the answers to the questions you’re asking.

The GAYthiest idiot above me is just here to push people into nihilism. Ask yourself do you want to belive in something that says life and everything has no meaning and is pointless? Do you want to believe in something that cannot justify its own claims ? Even science relies on induction and identity over time which once again atheists cannot explain why it exists the way it does and how it exists. Do you REALLY REALLY want to follow something this stupid and illogical infact atheism literally contradicts the laws of logic

• Atheism = Materialism (usually): It assumes that only matter and physical processes exist.
• Logic is Abstract & Immaterial: The laws of logic (like the law of non-contradiction) are not material things — they aren’t located in space, time, or brains.
• Materialism Can’t Account for Abstract Laws:
  • If only physical things exist, then universal, unchanging, immaterial laws shouldn’t exist.
  • But logic is universal and unchanging — it applies everywhere and always.
• 
  
• Atheism is Self-Refuting:
  • Atheists use logic to argue against God.
  • But their worldview can’t justify the existence or authority of logic itself.
  • So they are borrowing logic from a worldview (theism) that can account for it.
• 
  
• Only Theism Grounds Logic:
  • In the Christian worldview, logic reflects the rational mind of God.
  • Therefore, logic has a foundation: it exists because it is grounded in God’s unchanging nature.

TLDR:
Therefore, atheism undermines itself — it uses tools (logic) that only make sense if God exists.

thanks for this i actually understand what u mean and it does make sense i am orthodox btw serbian orthodox

 

[Beanermaxxer]

“Whatever truth is yours”

Perfectly justified why Gaytheism leads to mental brain rott and retardstion.


Either it’s true or not. Truth is OBJECTIVE but ofc in your dumb gay paradigm you can’t even say what true and false because you can’t even trust your own cognitive faculties to tell you what is real .

I don’t actually like you tbh, I actually despise you. I hate you, you dare come on my thread try to dishearten people with your nihilistic bullshit you son of the devil if I ever saw you I’d beat the living shit outta you fuck off my thread cunt and forever enjoy being in my ignore

Look, I’m not even atheist, I’m agnostic. I don’t claim to have all the answers or to know the absolute truth. I just admit that some things are beyond clear proof, and I’m open to questioning.

Calling that “brain rot” or throwing insults just shows how little real confidence there is in those rigid positions. If truth is truly objective, it can handle questions without resorting to hate.

No hate from me, just honest doubts and a search for understanding.

 

[Beanermaxxer]

“Whatever truth is yours”

Perfectly justified why Gaytheism leads to mental brain rott and retardstion.


Either it’s true or not. Truth is OBJECTIVE but ofc in your dumb gay paradigm you can’t even say what true and false because you can’t even trust your own cognitive faculties to tell you what is real .

I don’t actually like you tbh, I actually despise you. I hate you, you dare come on my thread try to dishearten people with your nihilistic bullshit you son of the devil if I ever saw you I’d beat the living shit outta you fuck off my thread cunt and forever enjoy being in my ignore

Trustingyour own brain like it’s some flawless truth machine is peak delusion. Your mind’s just a survival hack, not a truth detector. It’s wired to keep you alive, not to hand you objective reality on a silver platter.

You get hit with cognitive biases, illusions, emotional hijacks, and faulty memories all day. Confirmation bias? Yeah, that’s your brain ignoring facts that don’t fit your ego.

Even your “logic” is often just emotional excuses dressed up as reasoning. So when you say “I know what’s real,” you’re basically flexing your brain’s flaws like they’re strengths.

Real wisdom? Question your own fucking thoughts first.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

thanks for this i actually understand what u mean and it does make sense i am orthodox btw serbian orthodox

Brother then what’s the issue? Im a convert it orthodoxy myself and it has changed my life I cannot explain it what a massive gift to be born into it glory to god

This is a good VIDOE of jay debating the best atheist on this topic




But I can get another one for you but essentially Athiests as you know utilise god and theistic concepts such as Morakity, ethics, logic etc which literally cannot exist in their belief system because it isn’t material.

Infact in their belief system we are jsut random goop wnd they can’t even say what “sentience” is lmfao . It’s pathetic and sad such a hollow shallow life these rats live. Look how the GAYtheist ran to you to bring you down and make you a nihilist like him understand this, life’s hard but God is the only one that we know is true without God we can’t trust anything or understand anything

• Knowledge is not a random collection of neurons firing.
• To have true knowledge, there must be:
• A subject (a mind),
• An object (what is known),
• A relation between the two.

In GAYtheism

• If humans are just accidental chemical processes, then:
• Thoughts are just physical brain states, not rational conclusions.
• There's no reason to trust human cognition as reliable or truth-oriented.
• Evolution selects for survival, not necessarily truth.

Here’s the problem for atheists using SOYANCE humans do have knowledge, logic, and rationality

• We engage in science, ethics, logic, and reasoning.
• This presupposes that:
  
  • Truth exists,
  • Our minds can access it,
  • Reality is rational and knowable

Therefore Knowledge implies an ultimate, transcendent Knower

• If knowledge exists universally (e.g. truths of math, logic), then:
  • There must be a source or ground of universal, rational order.
• 
  
• That source is a divine, infinite Mind — God — who knows all things.

Conclusion? Without God, you get skepticism or nihilism

• Atheism can’t account for:
  • Objective truth
  • Meaning
  • Logic
  • Identity
• 
  
• Thus, atheism leads to epistemological self-destruction: it uses reason while denying the basis for reason.

See how retarded Gaytheism is.

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Look, I’m not even atheist, I’m agnostic. I don’t claim to have all the answers or to know the absolute truth. I just admit that some things are beyond clear proof, and I’m open to questioning.

Calling that “brain rot” or throwing insults just shows how little real confidence there is in those rigid positions. If truth is truly objective, it can handle questions without resorting to hate.

No hate from me, just honest doubts and a search for understanding.

Fair enough I misjudged you
I said what I said becuase you could see the despair in his face and instead you decided to be an annoying person an attack him and bring him down. You’re a monster due to how you replied you want the world to be as confused and cringe as you be cringe and confused in your little corner

 

[iblamexyz]

Fair, you’re clearly not totally uninformed and respect for being honest about your background. But here’s the reality check:

You still didn’t arrive at Christianity in a vacuum. The odds of you ‘discovering the truth’ just so happening to match the dominant religion of your environment are astronomically low if this were truly objective truth-seeking. Replace UK with Saudi Arabia, and odds are you’d be quoting Hadith instead of John. That’s not a dig at you that’s just how human psychology and cultural imprinting work.

You say you questioned it, good. But questioning within the confines of two Abrahamic faiths isn’t the same as unfiltered, cross-cultural philosophical exploration. Most people ‘search’ within what’s familiar, not what’s true.

You didn’t get beamed the gospel directly into your soul, your best friend, who was likely raised Christian, brought it to you. That’s still second-hand inheritance, just with a social rather than parental vector.

Quoting scripture as self-proof still falls flat, that’s circular logic. Imagine a Muslim saying, ‘The Quran is the truth because the Quran says so.’ You wouldn’t buy it. So why expect others to when you do the same with the Bible?





And don’t confuse conviction with objectivity. You can feel strongly about something and still be wrong. Billions do. The sincerity of your belief doesn’t override the statistical and cultural influence that shaped it.

I won't disagree with since your coming from a very logic standpoint although it very philosophical

by this you could argue I wouldn't be quoting anything

and unfortunately be spreading evolution to be true

as I in my faith and apologetics

I question all religions

and have had debates with plenty of Muslims on discord

evangelized at college

answer tons of questions from the old test new test

yes my friend was brought Christian

but Chirst is the only logical god (separate thread for this statement)

I will always use my bible as the word of god

and I expect a muslim to do so also

however with things like the crucifixion of jesus

that's more historically accurate then Julius Caesar William Shakespeare

there's less evidence for Pythagoras existing than Jesus

 

[Harold O'brien]

why is the christian god a huge fucking retard

nothing he does makes sense and he is extremely hypocritical and bipolar

 

[Klasik616]

It’s fine I suggest you look into Eastern Orthodoxy it has the answers to the questions you’re asking.

The GAYthiest idiot above me is just here to push people into nihilism. Ask yourself do you want to belive in something that says life and everything has no meaning and is pointless? Do you want to believe in something that cannot justify its own claims ? Even science relies on induction and identity over time which once again atheists cannot explain why it exists the way it does and how it exists. Do you REALLY REALLY want to follow something this stupid and illogical infact atheism literally contradicts the laws of logic

• Atheism = Materialism (usually): It assumes that only matter and physical processes exist.
• Logic is Abstract & Immaterial: The laws of logic (like the law of non-contradiction) are not material things — they aren’t located in space, time, or brains.
• Materialism Can’t Account for Abstract Laws:
  • If only physical things exist, then universal, unchanging, immaterial laws shouldn’t exist.
  • But logic is universal and unchanging — it applies everywhere and always.
• 
  
• Atheism is Self-Refuting:
  • Atheists use logic to argue against God.
  • But their worldview can’t justify the existence or authority of logic itself.
  • So they are borrowing logic from a worldview (theism) that can account for it.
• 
  
• Only Theism Grounds Logic:
  • In the Christian worldview, logic reflects the rational mind of God.
  • Therefore, logic has a foundation: it exists because it is grounded in God’s unchanging nature.

TLDR:
Therefore, atheism undermines itself — it uses tools (logic) that only make sense if God exists.

What does God and logic have in common, and why are you so proud of saying this without buying your first book on logic from the last 300 years atleast?

 

[iblamexyz]

why is the christian god a huge fucking retard

nothing he does makes sense and he is extremely hypocritical and bipolar

why do you think he's a retard?

what makes you think nothing makes sense?

 

[TheBlackpilledOne]

If God is all powerful why did I beat him at Fortnite