Christians, explain this

[Lonely]

1. God is Immortal

2. Jesus was Mortal

3. God cannot die

4. Jesus died

5. How can Jesus be God?

You can extend this same argument to knowledge, power, etc too, not just mortality.

You cannot say “God can do anything”
Because God does not do thing not befitting his nature. For example, God will not become Satan, nor will God make himself cease to exist.

I’m not looking to hate or cause issues, just want to have a genuine discussion.

 

[Malllc2]

idk its all fake anyway

 

[Eggshells]

idk its all fake anyway

Nigga you don't even know shit. Why even reply?

 

[Softmax09]

1. God is Immortal

2. Jesus was Mortal

3. God cannot die

4 Jesus died

5. How can Jesus be God?

You cannot say “God can do anything”
Because God does not do thing not befitting his nature. For example, God will not become Satan, nor will God make himself cease to exist.

I’m not looking to hate or cause issues, just want to have a genuine discussion.

I’m not Christian but he died because he „wanted to“ he wanted to die for our sins and prob smth with the trinity and shi

 

[brainfartsh3h3]

trinity is hella weird islamic and judisim god make more sense

 

[Softmax09]

trinity is hella weird islamic and judisim god make more sense

No good makes sense.

 

[jaycc]

1. God is Immortal

2. Jesus was Mortal

3. God cannot die

4. Jesus died

5. How can Jesus be God?

You can extend this same argument to knowledge, power, etc too, not just mortality.

You cannot say “God can do anything”
Because God does not do thing not befitting his nature. For example, God will not become Satan, nor will God make himself cease to exist.

I’m not looking to hate or cause issues, just want to have a genuine discussion.

Jesus was just god in human form so that nigga died

God didnt die

 

[Lonely]

I’m not Christian but he died because he „wanted to“ he wanted to die for our sins and prob smth with the trinity and shi

Yeah well…God dying would make him…not God. In the same way, God making himself not All Knowing would make him not God. It’s rationally impossible.

 

[Lonely]

Jesus was just god in human form so that nigga died

God didnt die

How can God, an infinite being, be a human, which is a finite being?

That’s like being a square with three sides

 

[slogxER]

are u a muslim¿

 

[asdvek]

Christianity is bullshit bud

 

[jaycc]

How can God, an infinite being, be a human, which is a finite being?

That’s like being a square with three sides

IM not currently christian although i do want to read the bible and im interested in forming a relationship with god

So i cant really debate you

But id imagine its do to with the holy trinity right? Read up about it and see what you think

 

[Lonely]

are u a muslim¿

Yes

 

[Lonely]

IM not currently christian although i do want to read the bible and im interested in forming a relationship with god

So i cant really debate you

But id imagine its do to with the holy trinity right? Read up about it and see what you think

I know. This is a key component of the Hypostatic Union.

 

[Freestyleofnoone]

Jesus was not beholden to death, it did not have authority over him if he rose from the dead of his own power. And It was purposed to give salvation for man who deserves death, multiplying eternal life by Gods providence.

They were mocking him on the cross for this exact reason btw

 

[alurmo]

idk its all fake anyway

disgusting heresy

 

[Lonely]

Jesus was not beholden to death, it did not have authority over him if he rose from the dead of his own power. And It was purposed to give salvation for man who deserves death, multiplying eternal life by Gods providence.

They were mocking him on the cross for this exact reason btw

This is a separate thing. It doesn’t address my points.

 

[alurmo]

I’m not Christian but he died because he „wanted to“ he wanted to die for our sins and prob smth with the trinity and shi

he died for the sake of man, hes death was a form of rebellion, he couldve commited mass murder to the romans if he wanted to, he accepted the fate of being man, and thus died for the sake of man

 

[Softmax09]

Yeah well…God dying would make him…not God. In the same way, God making himself not All Knowing would make him not God. It’s rationally impossible.

Dont try to make any Religion rational

 

[anthony267]

1. God is Immortal

2. Jesus was Mortal

3. God cannot die

4. Jesus died

5. How can Jesus be God?

You can extend this same argument to knowledge, power, etc too, not just mortality.

You cannot say “God can do anything”
Because God does not do thing not befitting his nature. For example, God will not become Satan, nor will God make himself cease to exist.

I’m not looking to hate or cause issues, just want to have a genuine discussion.

Life is not only limited to Physical things, God is immortal beyond the physical life. The 2nd claim is far to complicated to dissect but I would say that God will not make himself cease to exist because it would make all cease to exist

 

[Softmax09]

he died for the sake of man, hes death was a form of rebellion, he couldve commited mass murder to the romans if he wanted to, he accepted the fate of being man, and thus died for the sake of man

But god can’t die?

 

[Lonely]

Dont try to make any Religion rational

Atheism is as much of a religion as any religion

 

[jaycc]

I know. This is a key component of the Hypostatic Union.

Just because jesus' human form dies, that doesnt mean god died.

The human body died but the human body was not the entirety of god.

Its like if you have a school with many buildings, and you knock down the history department, the school is still chilling

 

[anthony267]

he died for the sake of man, hes death was a form of rebellion, he couldve commited mass murder to the romans if he wanted to, he accepted the fate of being man, and thus died for the sake of man

agree

 

[jaycc]

Atheism is as much of a religion as any religion

I actually agree

 

[anthony267]

Atheism is as much of a religion as any religion

agree

 

[Lonely]

Life is not only limited to Physical things, God is immortal beyond the physical life. The 2nd claim is far to complicated to dissect but I would say that God will not make himself cease to exist because it would make all cease to exist

So your response is “God works in mysterious ways”

and I would argue, God dying in any capacity is as problematic as him ceasing to exist

 

[Softmax09]

Atheism is as much of a religion as any religion

It’s more of a cult than a religion

 

[alurmo]

But god can’t die?

read a religious book.

 

[Malllc2]

Nigga you don't even know shit. Why even reply?

you genuinely think they got a magic mf making all your decisions or some bs? its all cope

 

[Softmax09]

read a religious book.

Which one?

 

[anthony267]

So your response is “God works in mysterious ways”

and I would argue, God dying in any capacity is as problematic as him ceasing to exist

not what i said, let me try again. Life to a christian is not physical but spiritual. If I were to not have God, I would be dead in my sin. The physical body is not of importance. Obv im on this forum to improve myself, the Bible talks about that as well, to not waste your body or potential

 

[Eggshells]

you genuinely think they got a magic mf making all your decisions or some bs? its all cope

Nigga what are you even talking about???
just say you're retarded fag

 

[Lonely]

not what i said, let me try again. Life to a christian is not physical but spiritual. If I were to not have God, I would be dead in my sin. The physical body is not of importance. Obv im on this forum to improve myself, the Bible talks about that as well, to not waste your body or potential

I get that, but that’s another thing. The main topic is how you’d justify Jesus being God, dying, when God cannot die

 

[anthony267]

I just posted a thesis where I talk about this
https://looksmax.org/threads/materi...-life-3000-word-thesis.1987987/#post-27674562

 

[Malllc2]

Nigga what are you even talking about???
just say you're retarded fag

im not a faggot nor am I retarded lmao. you think something with zero evidence is real? good for you then

 

[jaycc]

I get that, but that’s another thing. The main topic is how you’d justify Jesus being God, dying, when God cannot die

Just because jesus' human form dies, that doesnt mean god died.

The human body died but the human body was not the entirety of god.

Its like if you have a school with many buildings, and you knock down the history department, the school is still chilling

 

[Eggshells]

im not a faggot nor am I retarded lmao. you think something with zero evidence is real? good for you then

You just said "idk" on something you have no knowledge off. Why should you reply even tho it's not anything related about the topic. You are pretty much retarded doing this bullshit

 

[beimero]

How can God, an infinite being, be a human, which is a finite being?

That’s like being a square with three sides

He was never fully human.

 

[ijustwannaascendlol]

Yeah well…God dying would make him…not God. In the same way, God making himself not All Knowing would make him not God. It’s rationally impossible.

Why is this RANDOM NIGGA descriving god? U cant think of infinity being finite.

 

[Freestyleofnoone]

This is a separate thing. It doesn’t address my points.

The point is a question of power, Jesus died and yet is immortal, so obviously the premise is wrong. Immortal obviously doesn’t have to mean cannot die when considering anything is possible to God. Through Gods own perfectly reflected image and likeness.

 

[beimero]

im not a faggot nor am I retarded lmao. you think something with zero evidence is real? good for you then

If god was right in front of you, good and evil won't be in balance and therefore humans won't truly have free will. He chose to not make himself evident so that you choose to believe. Not be forced to follow the path

 

[Lonely]

Why is this RANDOM NIGGA descriving god? U cant think of infinity being finite.

God has certain traits and properties

 

[Malllc2]

If god was right in front of you, good and evil won't be in balance and therefore humans won't truly have free will. He chose to not make himself evident so that you choose to believe. Not be forced to follow the path

50/50 chance everything you believe in isn't real. I wouldnt take those odds

 

[ijustwannaascendlol]

God has certain traits and properties

Says who?

 

[Lonely]

He was never fully human.

How can you be both divine, and not divine at the same time?

How is it logically possible to say that you are a created being, and an uncreated being?

 

[Lonely]

Says who?

You can simply ask yourself:

“What makes God, God?”

And you’ll find your answer

 

[Lonely]

The point is a question of power, Jesus died and yet is immortal, so obviously the premise is wrong. Immortal obviously doesn’t have to mean cannot die when considering anything is possible to God. Through Gods own perfectly reflected image and likeness.

“Jesus died and yet is immortal”

“He is a bachelor and yet is married”

They’re the same type of statement

 

[beimero]

50/50 chance everything you believe in isn't real. I wouldnt take those odds

Better to die Christian than not. If you lived as a Christian you lived normal but just righteous life. It's a good way of living regardless

 

[beimero]

How can you be both divine, and not divine at the same time?

How is it logically possible to say that you are a created being, and an uncreated being?

It's not logical to us for God to have always existed and exist. Yet it is the truth. Some things we can't fully process. Just like kids don't always understand why parents give them certain orders or forbid them from doing something.