Clavicle lengthening

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How much can you expect to lengthen your clavicles on average from the age of 18-25 with either hgh, mk-677 or other igf-1 enhancers.
 
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Don_and-idk said:
yeah but mk is shit and its too low to cause any growth also theres no proof of mk677 being used for growth:ogre:
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Ngga do ur research mk-677 litterly pushes gh. I can find the studys to support it but here is what I roughly remember.

10-25mg/day of mk677 increases igf-1 with 20-40% over a couple weeks
Where 1-2 iu of hgh increase igf-1 with 20-50%
This increase in igf-1 have been proven to be biologically significant for bone growth.
 
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nobody knows especially not any of these greys

just ask chatgpt and check your growth plates age
 
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TfImOn? said:
Ngga do ur research mk-677 litterly pushes gh. I can find the studys to support it but here is what I roughly remember.

10-25mg/day of mk677 increases igf-1 with 20-40% over a couple weeks
Where 1-2 iu of hgh increase igf-1 with 20-50%
This increase in igf-1 have been proven to be biologically significant for bone growth.
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1-2 ius for bone growth :feelskek:
 
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TfImOn? said:
Ngga do ur research mk-677 litterly pushes gh. I can find the studys to support it but here is what I roughly remember.

10-25mg/day of mk677 increases igf-1 with 20-40% over a couple weeks
Where 1-2 iu of hgh increase igf-1 with 20-50%
These doses have been proven to be biologically significant for bone growth.
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nigga are you retarded??? no ones pinning 2 IU
 
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TfImOn? said:
It's not about what people are pinning it's about what studys have shown to be statistically significant.

Also an increase in mk-677 leads to an increase in igf-1.
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bruh whatever mate u can cope with mk677 haha ive grown 4cm now in frame with hgh but do whatever you want(y)
 
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Don_and-idk said:
Jfl @ greys need to take 50mg just to have the same effect of dudes who pin 4iu alsonu forgot the gazillion side effects this shit has:lul:
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Nigga when taking 4 iu u reach igf-1 levels of 50-150% higher than normal. 25mg of mk-677 can put u in the lower range, but because your body self regulates the hgh by producing it itself you still get to keep your body's natural feedback system, that actually end up lowering side effects to some degree compared to hgh, when u inject hgh u ignore this system, increasing insulin resistance even more, also you destroy the natural rhythm of hgh production, where mk-677 just produces it at night. You can also go read research on side effect risk on mk-677 and hgh and see that the risk are lower with mk-677.
 
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TfImOn? said:
Nigga when taking 4 iu u reach igf-1 levels of 50-150% higher than normal. 25mg of mk-677 can put u in the lower range, but because your body self regulates the hgh by producing it itself you still get to keep your body's natural feedback system, that actually end up lowering side effects to some degree compared to hgh, when u inject hgh u ignore this system, increasing insulin resistance even more, also you destroy the natural rhythm of hgh production, where mk-677 just produces it at night. You can also go read research on side effect risk on mk-677 and hgh and see that the risk are lower with mk-677.
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Not correct natty hgh production literally returns very quick in like 3 days.
 
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Don_and-idk said:
Not correct natty hgh production literally returns very quick in like 3 days.
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Are you low IQ? I never talked about the natty production being shut down as being the problem, I'm talking about the natural rhythm of hgh being shut down as the problem, when you go to rem sleep HGH production peaks. Your clearly taking a compound you do not understand how works.
 
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TfImOn? said:
Are you low IQ? I never talked about the natty production being shut down as being the problem, I'm talking about the natural rhythm of hgh being shut down as the problem, when you go to rem sleep HGH production peaks. Your clearly taking a compound you do not understand how works.
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Wym? Hgh is also being injected before sleep. Also studies prove that this doesnt matter.
The Tauber et al. Studies: Clinical trials explicitly compared giving growth-deficient patients HGH via a continuous, steady 24-hour infusion versus giving it in pulsatile, simulated bursts. The result? The continuous, steady delivery resulted in significantly higher IGF-1 generation and vastly superior growth rates than trying to mimic "natural" pulses:lul::lul::lul:

The Albertsson-Wikland Clinical Data: Landmark trials studying injection frequencies proved that moving from multiple small, erratic doses to a single, stable daily depot injection optimized growth velocity in humans. This is why the entire global medical community uses a daily, non-pulsatile injection of rhGH and completely ignores secretagogues like MK-677.
 
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Wym? Hgh is also being injected before sleep. Also studies prove that this doesnt matter.
The Tauber et al. Studies: Clinical trials explicitly compared giving growth-deficient patients HGH via a continuous, steady 24-hour infusion versus giving it in pulsatile, simulated bursts. The result? The continuous, steady delivery resulted in significantly higher IGF-1 generation and vastly superior growth rates than trying to mimic "natural" pulses:lul::lul::lul:

The Albertsson-Wikland Clinical Data: Landmark trials studying injection frequencies proved that moving from multiple small, erratic doses to a single, stable daily depot injection optimized growth velocity in humans. This is why the entire global medical community uses a daily, non-pulsatile injection of rhGH and completely ignores secretagogues like MK-677.
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Yes your talking for growth effects. I'm talking about side effects, there is a difference. For example can non natural injection of hgh, ruin ur sleep patterns and disrupt sleep to some degree, but your sleep rhythm and sleep quality is also dependent on ur body's natural hgh release.
 
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TfImOn? said:
Yes your talking for growth effects. I'm talking about side effects, there is a difference. For example can non natural injection of hgh, ruin ur sleep patterns and disrupt sleep to some degree, but your sleep rhythm and sleep quality is also dependent on ur body's natural hgh release.
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what?
 
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TfImOn? said:
Okay fair I will give you that one, but still doesn't answer any of my other questions. What you are doing right now is nitty picking arguments and ignoring the ones where you know I'm right.
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u mean the side effects thing?:lul:
 
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Don_and-idk said:
u mean the side effects thing?:lul:
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Also you nitty picking studys.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The effect of growth hormone administration on human sleep: a dose-response study - PubMed

<p>Human growth hormone and saline were administered for one night each to normal volunteers in a cross-over study. A dose of 2 units im given 15 min before bedtime had no effect on sleep EEG parameters. In contrast, 5 units resulted in a 19% decrease in slow-wave sleep (p < 0.01) and a 13%...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Studys conducted there it shows a disruption slow-wave sleep just ask. The evidence is mixed therefore no certain conclusion can be made. Also both studys use very few people meaning alot of variables are in play.

Yes what I'm exactly arguing is side effects for mk-677 are less, in return you get less growth effects. That's what I have been saying from the start, but your were arguing that mk-677 have worse side effects than hgh, and that mk-677 in small can't give growth.
 
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Also you nitty picking studys.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The effect of growth hormone administration on human sleep: a dose-response study - PubMed

<p>Human growth hormone and saline were administered for one night each to normal volunteers in a cross-over study. A dose of 2 units im given 15 min before bedtime had no effect on sleep EEG parameters. In contrast, 5 units resulted in a 19% decrease in slow-wave sleep (p < 0.01) and a 13%...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Studys conducted there it shows a disruption slow-wave sleep just ask. The evidence is mixed therefore no certain conclusion can be made. Also both studys use very few people meaning alot of variables are in play.

Yes what I'm exactly arguing is side effects for mk-677 are less, in return you get less growth effects. That's what I have been saying from the start, but your were arguing that mk-677 have worse side effects than hgh, and that mk-677 in small can't give growth.
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study says it increased 13% rem sleep tho and that level of sleep worsening could have any other reason. Also what do you think about this: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6240568/
i will research more thohohohohoho
 
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TfImOn? said:
Also you nitty picking studys.
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The effect of growth hormone administration on human sleep: a dose-response study - PubMed

<p>Human growth hormone and saline were administered for one night each to normal volunteers in a cross-over study. A dose of 2 units im given 15 min before bedtime had no effect on sleep EEG parameters. In contrast, 5 units resulted in a 19% decrease in slow-wave sleep (p < 0.01) and a 13%...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Studys conducted there it shows a disruption slow-wave sleep just ask. The evidence is mixed therefore no certain conclusion can be made. Also both studys use very few people meaning alot of variables are in play.

Yes what I'm exactly arguing is side effects for mk-677 are less, in return you get less growth effects. That's what I have been saying from the start, but your were arguing that mk-677 have worse side effects than hgh, and that mk-677 in small can't give growth.
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ahh yeah u could say it can cause height growth but that is only 2cms more than placebo group:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:compared to rHGH which has +5cm/year more than copek677 https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8207831/ incase of side effects u could say they are similar but meon 8IUs am fine so ur here coping. also ur a retarded greycel with 30 posts and join date af apr.9 talking me about knowledge jfl. U tiktokcels are among the most retarded here
 
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TfImOn? said:
How much can you expect to lengthen your clavicles on average from the age of 18-25 with either hgh, mk-677 or other igf-1 enhancers.
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1-3in. Natural growth is (to be more exact) 2mm per year (Since age 12)
 
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