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Whats my esr and do i have close set??
Also my palate is narrow would expansion make it more close set??
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Everyone always told me its sub 0.42 or max 0.43 before why also ai told me now that the shadow could possibly be the reason my esr is a bit higher? would it drop 0.02? Without shadows ?? Cos bone dosent change but idknah they look good
In back cam???almost ideal
your ESR is 0.42View attachment 54409482x zomm back cam and also a selfie same day
Whats my esr and do i have close set??
Also my palate is narrow would expansion make it more close set??
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yea almost still close set but nothing to worry about muchIn back cam???
ESR is a heavily overhyped ratio and 0.42 is bareley close set. i can find plenty of good looking people with as low as 0.40Everyone always told me its sub 0.42 or max 0.43 before why also ai told me now that the shadow could possibly be the reason my esr is a bit higher? would it drop 0.02? Without shadows ?? Cos bone dosent change but idk
send photo looking more down or straight, in your photo your looking up.Also i got a lazy eye and very tired eyes if this affects ipd
But compact mid face is good no? Also esr will drop from expansion? And from growing up?your ESR is 0.42
while this is teechnically close set, i dont think thats your main issue, because your skull needs to be longer to compensate. your eye area is actually fine (There are many attractive people with ESR around 0.4-0.42, but they all have midface ratios much longer then yours) but your midface looks too compact, which makes your entire face looks small. just tilt your head down more instead of looking up and ayou might look better.
and a wider pallate wouldnt hurt.
The reason you look off (and i dont think you look bad by the way, i would consider you MTN) is because your midface is way too compact.
In the samw formula? 2x zomm back cam ( noy mirror pic )send photo looking more down or straight, in your photo your looking up.
.42 is barely close set? please stop coping bro adriana limas bf had .39 lmfaoESR is a heavily overhyped ratio and 0.42 is bareley close set. i can find plenty of good looking people with as low as 0.40
I hate my eyes gngyea almost still close set but nothing to worry about much
nothing you can do about it so rope or go er igI hate my eyes gng
But his ipd is way smaller than mine xd.42 is barely close set? please stop coping bro adriana limas bf had .39 lmfao
compact mid face is not really good, people used to say that like 5 years ago when they were all grays, but its better to be longer slightly in terms of attractiveness. your mid face will get longer as you age for sure. your ES ratio tends to decrease though slightly as you age, but not by much (mine stayed the exact same from like 13-17, i measured in older photos), but my midface got longer, which is expectedBut compact mid face is good no? Also esr will drop from expansion? And from growing up?
Yes im short faced without my fore head shown ( 6 cm )
Here palateView attachment 5441020View attachment 5441022
yeah but .42 esr is kinda brutal ngl but lwk it doesnt look like .42 on u more like .44But his ipd is way smaller than mine xd
it doesnt look good dude im sorrycompact mid face is not really good, people used to say that like 5 years ago when they were all grays, but its better to be longer slightly in terms of attractiveness. your mid face will get longer as you age for sure. your ES ratio tends to decrease though slightly as you age, but not by much (mine stayed the exact same from like 13-17, i measured in older photos), but my midface got longer, which is expected
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this guy for example looks harmonious with similar esr to you and coloring, due to his longer midface.
yeah. it will make you look better i think. looking up makes you look slighyly worse IMOIn the samw formula? 2x zomm back cam ( noy mirror pic )
I wonder why , also u think if i spawn a new jaw in cos im recesed they eyes would look closer ? And if i get more angular would they look more far?yeah but .42 esr is kinda brutal ngl but lwk it doesnt look like .42 on u more like .44
But same ratio for set eyes?yeah. it will make you look better i think. looking up makes you look slighyly worse IMO
longer midface looks better then shorter midface usually.it doesnt look good dude im sorry
your ESR wont change, but they will appear more normally set becasue of the surrounding features, your eyebrows will appear lower set, and less ueeBut same ratio for set eyes?
getting leaner could make it look more close setI wonder why , also u think if i spawn a new jaw in cos im recesed they eyes would look closer ? And if i get more angular would they look more far?
How???getting leaner could make it look more close set
i agree that longer midface is better than shorter midface but neither are good i believe the ideal is like .98 and 1.02 after that it starts looking badlonger midface looks better then shorter midface usually.
we have the same esr lolView attachment 54409482x zomm back cam and also a selfie same day
Whats my esr and do i have close set??
Also my palate is narrow would expansion make it more close set??
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his is like 1.06 or something. too compact.i agree that longer midface is better than shorter midface but neither are good i believe the ideal is like .98 and 1.02 after that it starts looking bad
Is lower set eyes and less uee make close set eyes look more wjdei agree that longer midface is better than shorter midface but neither are good i believe the ideal is like .98 and 1.02 after that it starts looking bad
saw it somewhere and its true i myself have .47.25 esr which is kinda wide (46.5 is the best) and after losing weigt it looks a bit more closer dont know why it happens honestlyHow???
Also here side ( morphed myself a mandible eeee ) good brow ridge?his is like 1.06 or something. too compact.
So im so puffy yet will look worse wowsaw it somewhere and its true i myself have .47.25 esr which is kinda wide (46.5 is the best) and after losing weigt it looks a bit more closer dont know why it happens honestly
dunno honestlyIs lower set eyes and less uee make close set eyes look more wjde
His eyes look good the asian guy
yes his ESR is 0.42.His eyes look good the asian guy
the dude at the top has .41 esr but doesnt look close set at all esr has its flaws i agree
No way to increase esr without obo? Also why do my eyes not look so close ? and is getting lean from puffy + dying eye brows makes it look more closeyes his ESR is 0.42.
theo james (the other guy) has 0.41
your eye distance is basically impossible to change. getting lean could change ESR slightly by reducing byzygo if your fat but it will still proboably be 0.42 for you.No way to increase esr without obo? Also why do my eyes not look so close ? and is getting lean from puffy + dying eye brows makes it look more close
I need be htnyour eye distance is basically impossible to change. getting lean could change ESR slightly by reducing byzygo if your fat but it will still proboably be 0.42 for you.
your eyes look fine. the issue is your midface, becasue your tilting your head up. you look fine and you will look better with age. your currently MTN
So i should say no to expansion? Just get a bimax? ( bimax makes eyes look closer or no? ) cos im recesed afyour eye distance is basically impossible to change. getting lean could change ESR slightly by reducing byzygo if your fat but it will still proboably be 0.42 for you.
your eyes look fine. the issue is your midface, becasue your tilting your head up. you look fine and you will look better with age. your currently MTN
with a longer midface (so it would be like 1-0.95 ish instead of 1.12) which you have nowSo i should say no to expansion? Just get a bimax? ( bimax makes eyes look closer or no? ) cos im recesed af
Chad gpt also said 0.45with a longer midface (so it would be like 1-0.95 ish instead of 1.12) which you have now
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you should have at the minimum these two lines be equal. your IPD should not be longer then your midface. the fact that your tilting your head up is making your midface appear shorter, so a normal head tilt lenghtens the appearanece of the midface, which you should do. also it grows with puberty
im not that knowledgeble on these procedures. just get MSE or whatever its called for wider lower third, but the main issue is midface brother