Close set eyes ??

[wxtr]

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Also remembee that ipd gets slightly smaller due to the fact u look at small point / look blank

 

[1360p]

Chad gpt also said 0.45

i mean its wrong anyone on the forum will agree its 0.42.

as i said bro your focusing one one ratio that you cannot change and its not even particualrly bad. its slightly close set

the comical examples like charlie kirk and marko jaric all have ESR thats like 0.38, which is much lower then 0.41 or 0.42

another thing I will say is that you should also acount for bigonial width.

see this thread

https://looksmax.org/threads/why-some-people-look-normal-despite-low-es-ratios.2188741/

you want to atrophy your masseter muscles to make your face appear less bloated. dont chew or get wider lower third it would look worse and more bloated / close set

 

[wxtr]

i mean its wrong anyone on the forum will agree its 0.42.

as i said bro your focusing one one ratio that you cannot change and its not even particualrly bad. its slightly close set

the comical examples like charlie kirk and marko jaric all have ESR thats like 0.38, which is much lower then 0.41 or 0.42

another thing I will say is that you should also acount for bigonial width.

see this thread

https://looksmax.org/threads/why-some-people-look-normal-despite-low-es-ratios.2188741/

you want to atrophy your masseter muscles to make your face appear less bloated. dont chew or get wider lower third it would look worse and more bloated / close set

But bigoniak should be almost same as zygos

 

[1360p]

But bigoniak should be almost same as zygos

This is not true. in the above photo, the guy (channing tatum) has a 0.40 ES ratio

but his eyes look significantly closer set when his masseters are wider.

switch back and forth between the photos. your ESR doesnt change here, but you look slightly better due to narrower masseters.


in other words, if your ESR is "bad" due to wide zygos, then its fine, if its bad due to close set eyes, thats not good. you seem to have wide zygos, which is why your eye spacing doesnt appear so wierd.

 

[1360p]

you look better with narrower bigonial. you can do this by masseter atrophy (many methods, you can look this up). and debloat. your ESR is not different in these two photos.

 

[wxtr]

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This is not true. in the above photo, the guy (channing tatum) has a 0.40 ES ratio

but his eyes look significantly closer set when his masseters are wider.
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switch back and forth between the photos. your ESR doesnt change here, but you look slightly better due to narrower masseters.


in other words, if your ESR is "bad" due to wide zygos, then its fine, if its bad due to close set eyes, thats not good. you seem to have wide zygos, which is why your eye spacing doesnt appear so wierd.

Are my zygos high set? Also i dont see a diffrence idk why + getting lean will make it look more close? And getting a new lower third spawned ?

 

[1360p]

Are my zygos high set? Also i dont see a diffrence idk why + getting lean will make it look more close? And getting a new lower third spawned ?

getting lean will not make it look more close. getting lean will make them look less close. the other guy is mistaken.

your zygos are high set i would say. or at least medium set. you have wide zygos.

The area under your zygos is too round.

if you look there is a clear difference, your face looks much more harmonious in the left photo. I explained it a while ago in this post:

https://looksmax.org/threads/why-some-people-look-normal-despite-low-es-ratios.2188741/

you should read this. this is the best and a non invasive way to improve your perceived eye spacing

You do have HTN potential though. in the left photo i would consider you HMTN (after reducing width of lower third). this is very acheivable with masseter atrophy (such as botox, or just not chewing hard foods) and leaning out. you **should** get lean.

 

[wxtr]

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you look better with narrower bigonial. you can do this by masseter atrophy (many methods, you can look this up). and debloat. your ESR is not different in these two photos.

getting lean will not make it look more close. getting lean will make them look less close. the other guy is mistaken.

your zygos are high set i would say. or at least medium set. you have wide zygos.

The area under your zygos is too round.
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if you look there is a clear difference, your face looks much more harmonious in the left photo. I explained it a while ago in this post:

https://looksmax.org/threads/why-some-people-look-normal-despite-low-es-ratios.2188741/

you should read this. this is the best and a non invasive way to improve your perceived eye spacing

You do have HTN potential though. in the left photo i would consider you HMTN (after reducing width of lower third). this is very acheivable with masseter atrophy (such as botox, or just not chewing hard foods) and leaning out. you **should** get lean.

Ai said that getting angular face from puffy round is going to make eyes appear closer since the face isnt soft anymore and attention will focus on eyes , is it true or no
Also tysm for helpin rn

 

[wxtr]

Also would cantho pexy be good for me? Overall and for my close set situation?

 

[1360p]

Ai said that getting angular face from puffy round is going to make eyes appear closer since the face isnt soft anymore and attention will focus on eyes , is it true or no
Also tysm for helpin rn

AI is being retarded

if your face is less puffy, it will be narrower, which will make the eyes appear wider in relation to the facial width

ESR is measured using the following: IPD / Byzigomatic width

as i proposed in the other post, one could also get an idea using IPD / bigonial width.


either way, getting leaner will make the face appear narrower, therefore increasing ESR. the affect of this will be mostly present in the bigonial area (below the zygos) as this is where most people store fat. in terms of actual numbers, your ESR might go to 0.420 -> 0.425 (so bareley an increase), but your lower third will appear narrower. and make your entire face seem slimmer and less bloated.

 

[jeremyy]

View attachment 54409482x zomm back cam and also a selfie same day
Whats my esr and do i have close set??
Also my palate is narrow would expansion make it more close set??
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Didnt have to tell me your palate was narrow

I already could tell by those dark spaces on the ends of your teeth

 

[1360p]

Also would cantho pexy be good for me? Overall and for my close set situation?

if you widen the outer corners of your eye, this would also improve the appearance of your eyes. I dont usually like to advocate for hardmaxxes at all. and in your case you can become HTN i beleive without any surgeries. but if you want to do it it wouldnt hurt.

 

[1360p]

also, your mouth is too downturned.
in the left photo all i did was make your midface slightly longer, upturned corners, and leaned out your lower third slightly

no changes to the eye area whatsoever.