Collagen maxing guide

I did not try to find any new research chemical just analyse the existing methods and see their effectiveness:

Dermarolling: 400% increase

Skin becomes thicker with greater than 400 % increase in collagen deposition and significantly more elastin . Collagen fibre bundles qualitatively increases, thickens and more loosely woven in both papillary and reticular dermis. It appears to have laid down in normal lattice pattern than in parallel bundles as in scar tissue.

Retin-a (tretinoin): 80% increase
Treatment of photodamaged skin with tretinoin produced an 80 percent increase in collagen I formation, as compared with a 14 percent decrease in collagen formation with the use of vehicle alone (P = 0.006).

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308193290803

Sunscreen: 56% increase
Collagen I formation was 56 percent less in the papillary dermis of photodamaged skin than in skin protected from the sun (P<0.001)

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308193290803

Red light: Increases collagen (4.6ug/ml -> 36.36ug/ml after 5hours)

Redlight therapy is legit

Infrared light therapy Aging: Photo Evidence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3926176/ After 30days of sessions lasting 15-30minutes http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687728/ Collagen production https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19593638 "In treated animals...

looksmax.org

https://looksmax.org/threads/redlight-therapy-on-testosterone-bone-growth-and-masseter-muscle.25781/

Copper peptides:

https://looksmax.org/threads/resear...-wound-healing-and-collagen-production.24409/

Oral collagen supplement:
Preliminary results are promising for the short and long-term use of oral collagen supplements for wound healing and skin aging. Oral collagen supplements also increase skin elasticity, hydration, and dermal collagen density

Oral Collagen Supplementation: A Systematic Review of Dermatological Applications - PubMed

Importance: The use of nutraceuticals such as collagen for skincare has been rising, but regulations are lacking on quality, absorption, and efficacy. To address this knowledge gap, clinical studies regarding the potential effects of collagen-based dietary supplements on skin are being...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

In summary, the present study demonstrated oral administration of collagen peptides from bovine bone could improve the laxity of chronologically aged skin by increasing skin collagen content and ratio of type I to type III collagen, but it had no effect on moisture retention of skin.

Effect of Orally Administered Collagen Peptides from Bovine Bone on Skin Aging in Chronologically Aged Mice

Collagen peptides (CPs) have demonstrated to exert beneficial effects on skin photoaging. However, little has been done to evaluate their effects on chronologically aged skin. Here, the effects of CPs from bovine bone on skin aging were investigated in ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Fasting: 92% DECREASE

A specific decrease in collagen synthesis in acutely fasted, vitamin C-supplemented, guinea pigs.

R G Spanheimer, B Peterkofsky

www.jbc.org

Aloe vera:
Glucomannan, a mannose-rich polysaccharide, and gibberellin, a growth hormone, interacts with growth factor receptors on the fibroblast, thereby stimulating its activity and proliferation, which in turn significantly increases collagen synthesis after topical and oral Aloe vera.9 Aloe gel not only increased collagen content of the wound but also changed collagen composition (more type III) and increased the degree of collagen cross linking. Due to this, it accelerated wound contraction and increased the breaking strength of resulting scar tissue

ALOE VERA: A SHORT REVIEW

Aloe vera is a natural product that is now a day frequently used in the field of cosmetology. Though there are various indications for its use, controlled trials are needed to determine its real efficacy. The aloe vera plant, its properties, mechanism ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Vitamin C (oral)

Vitamin C basically promotes collagen expression, and stimulates collagen production. I could make a full thread on vitamin C its so legit

The Roles of Vitamin C in Skin Health

The primary function of the skin is to act as a barrier against insults from the environment, and its unique structure reflects this. The skin is composed of two layers: the epidermal outer layer is highly cellular and provides the barrier function, and ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Reccomendation :

poorcel
vitamin c 500mg/ day
tretinoin (work up to 0.05% ED)
dermarolling 1mm (These derma roller size needles are more effective in inducing the production of collagen http://dermarollerqmd.com/demarolling-therapy/what-size-derma-roller-should-i-use/) 1 time weekly
sunscreen: spf 15 blocks 93% so in terms of ROI this is best

Richcel:
vitamin C 2grams /day (drink enough water so you dont get kidney stone
tretinoin (work up to 0.05% ED)
dermarolling 1mm 1 time weekly
sunscreen: spf 50
Bovine: 200mg / kg of body weight
Red light therapy: 15-30minutes daily
Aloe vera (topically or oral, although topical seems to have almost no irritation)

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[love=everything]

For anyone who wants to target specific areas
like if u have scaring or something


Use a derma stamp, theyre safer way safer than derma rolling or derma penning

rollers 100% scar skin if you dont get a legit derma roller and you dont regularly change it.


Its more painful tho.

 

[Lorsss]

I did not try to find any new research chemical just analyse the existing methods and see their effectiveness:

Dermarolling: 400% increase
View attachment 79729
Skin becomes thicker with greater than 400 % increase in collagen deposition and significantly more elastin . Collagen fibre bundles qualitatively increases, thickens and more loosely woven in both papillary and reticular dermis. It appears to have laid down in normal lattice pattern than in parallel bundles as in scar tissue.

Retin-a (tretinoin): 80% increase
Treatment of photodamaged skin with tretinoin produced an 80 percent increase in collagen I formation, as compared with a 14 percent decrease in collagen formation with the use of vehicle alone (P = 0.006).

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308193290803

Sunscreen: 56% increase
Collagen I formation was 56 percent less in the papillary dermis of photodamaged skin than in skin protected from the sun (P<0.001)

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308193290803

Red light: Increases collagen (4.6ug/ml -> 36.36ug/ml after 5hours)

Redlight therapy is legit

Infrared light therapy Aging: Photo Evidence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3926176/ After 30days of sessions lasting 15-30minutes http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687728/ Collagen production https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19593638 "In treated animals...

looksmax.org

https://looksmax.org/threads/redlight-therapy-on-testosterone-bone-growth-and-masseter-muscle.25781/

Copper peptides:

https://looksmax.org/threads/resear...-wound-healing-and-collagen-production.24409/

Oral collagen supplement:
Preliminary results are promising for the short and long-term use of oral collagen supplements for wound healing and skin aging. Oral collagen supplements also increase skin elasticity, hydration, and dermal collagen density

Oral Collagen Supplementation: A Systematic Review of Dermatological Applications - PubMed

Importance: The use of nutraceuticals such as collagen for skincare has been rising, but regulations are lacking on quality, absorption, and efficacy. To address this knowledge gap, clinical studies regarding the potential effects of collagen-based dietary supplements on skin are being...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

In summary, the present study demonstrated oral administration of collagen peptides from bovine bone could improve the laxity of chronologically aged skin by increasing skin collagen content and ratio of type I to type III collagen, but it had no effect on moisture retention of skin.

Effect of Orally Administered Collagen Peptides from Bovine Bone on Skin Aging in Chronologically Aged Mice

Collagen peptides (CPs) have demonstrated to exert beneficial effects on skin photoaging. However, little has been done to evaluate their effects on chronologically aged skin. Here, the effects of CPs from bovine bone on skin aging were investigated in ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Fasting: 92% DECREASE

A specific decrease in collagen synthesis in acutely fasted, vitamin C-supplemented, guinea pigs.

R G Spanheimer, B Peterkofsky

www.jbc.org

Aloe vera:
Glucomannan, a mannose-rich polysaccharide, and gibberellin, a growth hormone, interacts with growth factor receptors on the fibroblast, thereby stimulating its activity and proliferation, which in turn significantly increases collagen synthesis after topical and oral Aloe vera.9 Aloe gel not only increased collagen content of the wound but also changed collagen composition (more type III) and increased the degree of collagen cross linking. Due to this, it accelerated wound contraction and increased the breaking strength of resulting scar tissue

ALOE VERA: A SHORT REVIEW

Aloe vera is a natural product that is now a day frequently used in the field of cosmetology. Though there are various indications for its use, controlled trials are needed to determine its real efficacy. The aloe vera plant, its properties, mechanism ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Vitamin C (oral)
View attachment 79742
Vitamin C basically promotes collagen expression, and stimulates collagen production. I could make a full thread on vitamin C its so legit

The Roles of Vitamin C in Skin Health

The primary function of the skin is to act as a barrier against insults from the environment, and its unique structure reflects this. The skin is composed of two layers: the epidermal outer layer is highly cellular and provides the barrier function, and ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Reccomendation :

poorcel
vitamin c 500mg/ day
tretinoin (work up to 0.05% ED)
dermarolling 1mm (These derma roller size needles are more effective in inducing the production of collagen http://dermarollerqmd.com/demarolling-therapy/what-size-derma-roller-should-i-use/) 1 time weekly
sunscreen: spf 15 blocks 93% so in terms of ROI this is best

Richcel:
vitamin C 2grams /day (drink enough water so you dont get kidney stone
tretinoin (work up to 0.05% ED)
dermarolling 1mm 1 time weekly
sunscreen: spf 50
Bovine: 200mg / kg of body weight
Red light therapy: 15-30minutes daily
Aloe vera (topically or oral, although topical seems to have almost no irritation)

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people who follow this guide can reach 50 years old and look like they are 30

 

[x30001]

I use 1.75mm derminator2 on fast mode for hair

 

[make_it_to_the_top]

pure ascorbic acid powder mixed with water and applied immediately after microneedling. The vitC serums are garbage. It's very delicate

How much VitC should I mix with water? Is [1/2 teaspoon VitC: 1 tablespoon distilled water] proportion legit (first result in google)?

 

[x30001]

How much VitC should I mix with water? Is [1/2 teaspoon VitC: 1 tablespoon distilled water] proportion legit (first result in google)?

Yep that's fine. There's no exact dose you need. Just make sure you cover your microneedled area with the solution

 

[Deleted member 1212]

This thread is exactly what I needed.
I need perfect newborn tier skin to compensate for my lack of bones.
I need skin like this bish

She is so fucking sexy

 

[MrCucumber]

Just dermaroll, been saying this since my first day here which was before this post was made.

 

[Wool]

when using the red light thing, do you need a serum?

 

[Nosecel9000]

1mm ideal for collagen

Bruh why not directly do MICRODERMABRASION fag?

 

[GoMadAndSTFU]

Ok so we need to put sunscreen 24/24 ??

 

[Deleted member 439]

Ok so we need to put sunscreen 24/24 ??

no bro
only when youre going outside

 

[GoMadAndSTFU]

Last question , are red light from amazon good enought ?

 

[Deleted member 1383]

I did not try to find any new research chemical just analyse the existing methods and see their effectiveness:

Dermarolling: 400% increase
View attachment 79729
Skin becomes thicker with greater than 400 % increase in collagen deposition and significantly more elastin . Collagen fibre bundles qualitatively increases, thickens and more loosely woven in both papillary and reticular dermis. It appears to have laid down in normal lattice pattern than in parallel bundles as in scar tissue.

Retin-a (tretinoin): 80% increase
Treatment of photodamaged skin with tretinoin produced an 80 percent increase in collagen I formation, as compared with a 14 percent decrease in collagen formation with the use of vehicle alone (P = 0.006).

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308193290803

Sunscreen: 56% increase
Collagen I formation was 56 percent less in the papillary dermis of photodamaged skin than in skin protected from the sun (P<0.001)

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308193290803

Red light: Increases collagen (4.6ug/ml -> 36.36ug/ml after 5hours)

Redlight therapy is legit

Infrared light therapy Aging: Photo Evidence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3926176/ After 30days of sessions lasting 15-30minutes http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687728/ Collagen production https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19593638 "In treated animals...

looksmax.org

https://looksmax.org/threads/redlight-therapy-on-testosterone-bone-growth-and-masseter-muscle.25781/

Copper peptides:

https://looksmax.org/threads/resear...-wound-healing-and-collagen-production.24409/

Oral collagen supplement:
Preliminary results are promising for the short and long-term use of oral collagen supplements for wound healing and skin aging. Oral collagen supplements also increase skin elasticity, hydration, and dermal collagen density

Oral Collagen Supplementation: A Systematic Review of Dermatological Applications - PubMed

Importance: The use of nutraceuticals such as collagen for skincare has been rising, but regulations are lacking on quality, absorption, and efficacy. To address this knowledge gap, clinical studies regarding the potential effects of collagen-based dietary supplements on skin are being...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

In summary, the present study demonstrated oral administration of collagen peptides from bovine bone could improve the laxity of chronologically aged skin by increasing skin collagen content and ratio of type I to type III collagen, but it had no effect on moisture retention of skin.

Effect of Orally Administered Collagen Peptides from Bovine Bone on Skin Aging in Chronologically Aged Mice

Collagen peptides (CPs) have demonstrated to exert beneficial effects on skin photoaging. However, little has been done to evaluate their effects on chronologically aged skin. Here, the effects of CPs from bovine bone on skin aging were investigated in ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Fasting: 92% DECREASE

A specific decrease in collagen synthesis in acutely fasted, vitamin C-supplemented, guinea pigs.

R G Spanheimer, B Peterkofsky

www.jbc.org

Aloe vera:
Glucomannan, a mannose-rich polysaccharide, and gibberellin, a growth hormone, interacts with growth factor receptors on the fibroblast, thereby stimulating its activity and proliferation, which in turn significantly increases collagen synthesis after topical and oral Aloe vera.9 Aloe gel not only increased collagen content of the wound but also changed collagen composition (more type III) and increased the degree of collagen cross linking. Due to this, it accelerated wound contraction and increased the breaking strength of resulting scar tissue

ALOE VERA: A SHORT REVIEW

Aloe vera is a natural product that is now a day frequently used in the field of cosmetology. Though there are various indications for its use, controlled trials are needed to determine its real efficacy. The aloe vera plant, its properties, mechanism ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Vitamin C (oral)
View attachment 79742
Vitamin C basically promotes collagen expression, and stimulates collagen production. I could make a full thread on vitamin C its so legit

The Roles of Vitamin C in Skin Health

The primary function of the skin is to act as a barrier against insults from the environment, and its unique structure reflects this. The skin is composed of two layers: the epidermal outer layer is highly cellular and provides the barrier function, and ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Reccomendation :

poorcel
vitamin c 500mg/ day
tretinoin (work up to 0.05% ED)
dermarolling 1mm (These derma roller size needles are more effective in inducing the production of collagen http://dermarollerqmd.com/demarolling-therapy/what-size-derma-roller-should-i-use/) 1 time weekly
sunscreen: spf 15 blocks 93% so in terms of ROI this is best

Richcel:
vitamin C 2grams /day (drink enough water so you dont get kidney stone
tretinoin (work up to 0.05% ED)
dermarolling 1mm 1 time weekly
sunscreen: spf 50
Bovine: 200mg / kg of body weight
Red light therapy: 15-30minutes daily
Aloe vera (topically or oral, although topical seems to have almost no irritation)

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I do all of this except for the red light therapy.

 

[x30001]

I do all of this except for the red light therapy.

Red light therapy is awesome.

 

[Eclipse]

Would you actually recomend using retin-a
for sensitive skin? I have tendention to get popped blood vessels and redness

 

[GoMadAndSTFU]

A simple lamp ordered on amazon work ?

Guys note that Jordan Barett often show his red light therapy on instagram storys

 

[Zeta ascended]

how often do you dermaroll if you use 1mm?

I would do it once every 2 weeks to no more than once a week.

 

[SoCal69]

Damn so fasting actually fucks your collagen production up?
That kinda sucks, I started fasting a month ago(16 off 8 on daily) and assumed this is better for health...

 

[Wannabe6ft2]

Damn so fasting actually fucks your collagen production up?
That kinda sucks, I started fasting a month ago(16 off 8 on daily) and assumed this is better for health...

IF should be alright (I assume)

 

[Deleted member 439]

IF should be alright (I assume)

yeah the study was done for a 96hour fast (in rats btw)

 

[Rimcel]

Damn so fasting actually fucks your collagen production up?
That kinda sucks, I started fasting a month ago(16 off 8 on daily) and assumed this is better for health...

I ve read somewhere that intermittent fasting is actually good for preserving youthful look. But I can’t remember the exact details

 

[Imonlyhere]

is there any way to help recover from years of malnutrition/underweight
Other then the alrdy posted stuff that helps in this particular case?

 

[Deleted member 773]

Been doing all this shit and my skin still looks like that of a 30 year old.

I think Minox permenantely fucked me up.

 

[xForgotMyName]

I ve read somewhere that intermittent fasting is actually good for preserving youthful look. But I can’t remember the exact details

Most studies I've read report decreased IGF-1 which results in reduced collagen synthesis during the fasted state.
However, the same studies report increase in progenitor/stem cells.

I might be wrong but i think caloric restriction/fasting without deficiency of essential nutrients is good overall for your skin.

if you look for example at this study(look at the Figure 6-H)

A Periodic Diet that Mimics Fasting Promotes Multi-System Regeneration, Enhanced Cognitive Performance, and Healthspan - PubMed

Prolonged fasting (PF) promotes stress resistance, but its effects on longevity are poorly understood. We show that alternating PF and nutrient-rich medium extended yeast lifespan independently of established pro-longevity genes. In mice, 4 days of a diet that mimics fasting (FMD), developed to...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

despite lower IGF-1 levels that would make you expect muscle loss, there's a slight increase in lean muscle at the end of the fast.

something similar is probably happening with the skin.

Been doing all this shit and my skin still looks like that of a 30 year old.

I think Minox permenantely fucked me up.

are you using rets?

 

[Deleted member 773]

Bump cause I’m doing this and ppl need to see this

 

[Omari Mescudi]

Bump cause I’m doing this and ppl need to see this

Is your skin making any improvement since the minox?

 

[Deleted member 773]

Is your skin making any improvement since the minox?

No. Absolutely nothing.

 

[OCDMaxxing]

Which red light lamps would you recommend guys?

That jooov shit is way overpriced.

 

[sorrowfulsad]

thats not really how it works

 

[HighTierNormie]

DERMAROLLING CREATES MICROSCOPIC SCAR TISSUE
The other reason why collagen synthesis will cease prematurely is because dermarolling causes damage to the extracellular matrix in the form of scarring. Scarring occurs because dermarolling destroys the scaffolding in which collagen adheres, which means that even if collagen is being made, it will not be able to maintain its place in the extracellular matrix, and instead of being held in the skin, will be metabolized and destroyed by the body. The more you dermaroll, the more scar tissue you will make, and the more scar tissue present in your skin means less space for collagen, elastin and other proteins associated with healthy skin to adhere. The result is premature skin sagging and wrinkling.

Scarring from dermarolling will happen at the microscopic level and will not be visible like a major skin scar is visible. The visibility of scarring from dermarolling is seen after years in the form of thin, sagging skin due to collagen loss and the breakdown of the extracellular matrix and the killing of live skin.

How Dermarolling Causes Collagen Breakdown, Premature Aging, and Possi

If I had a dollar for every time I was asked whether or not dermarolling/micro-needling was beneficial to skin, I would have enough money to buy that Hitachi transmission electron microscope I have had my eye on. If you’re in a hurry, the answer is: no. Dermarolling is dangerous and has no skin...

www.oumere.com

.
guys apparently dermarolling is bad for you
and i got fucking scars dermarolling with a 1.5mm dermaroller because im stupid

 

[her]

DERMAROLLING CREATES MICROSCOPIC SCAR TISSUE
The other reason why collagen synthesis will cease prematurely is because dermarolling causes damage to the extracellular matrix in the form of scarring. Scarring occurs because dermarolling destroys the scaffolding in which collagen adheres, which means that even if collagen is being made, it will not be able to maintain its place in the extracellular matrix, and instead of being held in the skin, will be metabolized and destroyed by the body. The more you dermaroll, the more scar tissue you will make, and the more scar tissue present in your skin means less space for collagen, elastin and other proteins associated with healthy skin to adhere. The result is premature skin sagging and wrinkling.

Scarring from dermarolling will happen at the microscopic level and will not be visible like a major skin scar is visible. The visibility of scarring from dermarolling is seen after years in the form of thin, sagging skin due to collagen loss and the breakdown of the extracellular matrix and the killing of live skin.

How Dermarolling Causes Collagen Breakdown, Premature Aging, and Possi

If I had a dollar for every time I was asked whether or not dermarolling/micro-needling was beneficial to skin, I would have enough money to buy that Hitachi transmission electron microscope I have had my eye on. If you’re in a hurry, the answer is: no. Dermarolling is dangerous and has no skin...

www.oumere.com

.
guys apparently dermarolling is bad for you
and i got fucking scars dermarolling with a 1.5mm dermaroller because im stupid

That’s why you buy a Derminator 2.

 

[HighTierNormie]

That’s why you buy a Derminator 2.

*sigh* i did this shit a couple days ago and bought a dermaroller with real needles so i hope it clears up and doesnt leave permanent scars AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

That’s why you buy a Derminator 2.

whats agood treatment for superficial scarring

 

[Sasaz2]

That’s why you buy a Derminator 2.

Why the derminator is so hyped when it was created by a women without any md and with a staff with self claimed mental issues?
Is there anything that shows that derminator doesn't cause skin dammage except what says the creator?
In short and long run

 

[AnimeCel]

I ve read somewhere that intermittent fasting is actually good for preserving youthful look. But I can’t remember the exact details

yeah, the more food you consume the more you age

 

[DownUnderCopeAttack]

I did not try to find any new research chemical just analyse the existing methods and see their effectiveness:

Dermarolling: 400% increase
View attachment 79729
Skin becomes thicker with greater than 400 % increase in collagen deposition and significantly more elastin . Collagen fibre bundles qualitatively increases, thickens and more loosely woven in both papillary and reticular dermis. It appears to have laid down in normal lattice pattern than in parallel bundles as in scar tissue.

Retin-a (tretinoin): 80% increase
Treatment of photodamaged skin with tretinoin produced an 80 percent increase in collagen I formation, as compared with a 14 percent decrease in collagen formation with the use of vehicle alone (P = 0.006).

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308193290803

Sunscreen: 56% increase
Collagen I formation was 56 percent less in the papillary dermis of photodamaged skin than in skin protected from the sun (P<0.001)

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308193290803

Red light: Increases collagen (4.6ug/ml -> 36.36ug/ml after 5hours)

Redlight therapy is legit

Infrared light therapy Aging: Photo Evidence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3926176/ After 30days of sessions lasting 15-30minutes http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687728/ Collagen production https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19593638 "In treated animals...

looksmax.org

https://looksmax.org/threads/redlight-therapy-on-testosterone-bone-growth-and-masseter-muscle.25781/

Copper peptides:

https://looksmax.org/threads/resear...-wound-healing-and-collagen-production.24409/

Oral collagen supplement:
Preliminary results are promising for the short and long-term use of oral collagen supplements for wound healing and skin aging. Oral collagen supplements also increase skin elasticity, hydration, and dermal collagen density

Oral Collagen Supplementation: A Systematic Review of Dermatological Applications - PubMed

Importance: The use of nutraceuticals such as collagen for skincare has been rising, but regulations are lacking on quality, absorption, and efficacy. To address this knowledge gap, clinical studies regarding the potential effects of collagen-based dietary supplements on skin are being...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

In summary, the present study demonstrated oral administration of collagen peptides from bovine bone could improve the laxity of chronologically aged skin by increasing skin collagen content and ratio of type I to type III collagen, but it had no effect on moisture retention of skin.

Effect of Orally Administered Collagen Peptides from Bovine Bone on Skin Aging in Chronologically Aged Mice

Collagen peptides (CPs) have demonstrated to exert beneficial effects on skin photoaging. However, little has been done to evaluate their effects on chronologically aged skin. Here, the effects of CPs from bovine bone on skin aging were investigated in ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Fasting: 92% DECREASE

A specific decrease in collagen synthesis in acutely fasted, vitamin C-supplemented, guinea pigs.

R G Spanheimer, B Peterkofsky

www.jbc.org

Aloe vera:
Glucomannan, a mannose-rich polysaccharide, and gibberellin, a growth hormone, interacts with growth factor receptors on the fibroblast, thereby stimulating its activity and proliferation, which in turn significantly increases collagen synthesis after topical and oral Aloe vera.9 Aloe gel not only increased collagen content of the wound but also changed collagen composition (more type III) and increased the degree of collagen cross linking. Due to this, it accelerated wound contraction and increased the breaking strength of resulting scar tissue

ALOE VERA: A SHORT REVIEW

Aloe vera is a natural product that is now a day frequently used in the field of cosmetology. Though there are various indications for its use, controlled trials are needed to determine its real efficacy. The aloe vera plant, its properties, mechanism ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Vitamin C (oral)
View attachment 79742
Vitamin C basically promotes collagen expression, and stimulates collagen production. I could make a full thread on vitamin C its so legit

The Roles of Vitamin C in Skin Health

The primary function of the skin is to act as a barrier against insults from the environment, and its unique structure reflects this. The skin is composed of two layers: the epidermal outer layer is highly cellular and provides the barrier function, and ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Reccomendation :

poorcel
vitamin c 500mg/ day
tretinoin (work up to 0.05% ED)
dermarolling 1mm (These derma roller size needles are more effective in inducing the production of collagen http://dermarollerqmd.com/demarolling-therapy/what-size-derma-roller-should-i-use/) 1 time weekly
sunscreen: spf 15 blocks 93% so in terms of ROI this is best

Richcel:
vitamin C 2grams /day (drink enough water so you dont get kidney stone
tretinoin (work up to 0.05% ED)
dermarolling 1mm 1 time weekly
sunscreen: spf 50
Bovine: 200mg / kg of body weight
Red light therapy: 15-30minutes daily
Aloe vera (topically or oral, although topical seems to have almost no irritation)

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Thank you for this man.

 

[eyearea]

I did not try to find any new research chemical just analyse the existing methods and see their effectiveness:

Dermarolling: 400% increase
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Skin becomes thicker with greater than 400 % increase in collagen deposition and significantly more elastin . Collagen fibre bundles qualitatively increases, thickens and more loosely woven in both papillary and reticular dermis. It appears to have laid down in normal lattice pattern than in parallel bundles as in scar tissue.

Retin-a (tretinoin): 80% increase
Treatment of photodamaged skin with tretinoin produced an 80 percent increase in collagen I formation, as compared with a 14 percent decrease in collagen formation with the use of vehicle alone (P = 0.006).

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308193290803

Sunscreen: 56% increase
Collagen I formation was 56 percent less in the papillary dermis of photodamaged skin than in skin protected from the sun (P<0.001)

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199308193290803

Red light: Increases collagen (4.6ug/ml -> 36.36ug/ml after 5hours)

Redlight therapy is legit

Infrared light therapy Aging: Photo Evidence https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3926176/ After 30days of sessions lasting 15-30minutes http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2687728/ Collagen production https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19593638 "In treated animals...

looksmax.org

https://looksmax.org/threads/redlight-therapy-on-testosterone-bone-growth-and-masseter-muscle.25781/

Copper peptides:

https://looksmax.org/threads/resear...-wound-healing-and-collagen-production.24409/

Oral collagen supplement:
Preliminary results are promising for the short and long-term use of oral collagen supplements for wound healing and skin aging. Oral collagen supplements also increase skin elasticity, hydration, and dermal collagen density

Oral Collagen Supplementation: A Systematic Review of Dermatological Applications - PubMed

Importance: The use of nutraceuticals such as collagen for skincare has been rising, but regulations are lacking on quality, absorption, and efficacy. To address this knowledge gap, clinical studies regarding the potential effects of collagen-based dietary supplements on skin are being...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

In summary, the present study demonstrated oral administration of collagen peptides from bovine bone could improve the laxity of chronologically aged skin by increasing skin collagen content and ratio of type I to type III collagen, but it had no effect on moisture retention of skin.

Effect of Orally Administered Collagen Peptides from Bovine Bone on Skin Aging in Chronologically Aged Mice

Collagen peptides (CPs) have demonstrated to exert beneficial effects on skin photoaging. However, little has been done to evaluate their effects on chronologically aged skin. Here, the effects of CPs from bovine bone on skin aging were investigated in ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Fasting: 92% DECREASE

A specific decrease in collagen synthesis in acutely fasted, vitamin C-supplemented, guinea pigs.

R G Spanheimer, B Peterkofsky

www.jbc.org

Aloe vera:
Glucomannan, a mannose-rich polysaccharide, and gibberellin, a growth hormone, interacts with growth factor receptors on the fibroblast, thereby stimulating its activity and proliferation, which in turn significantly increases collagen synthesis after topical and oral Aloe vera.9 Aloe gel not only increased collagen content of the wound but also changed collagen composition (more type III) and increased the degree of collagen cross linking. Due to this, it accelerated wound contraction and increased the breaking strength of resulting scar tissue

ALOE VERA: A SHORT REVIEW

Aloe vera is a natural product that is now a day frequently used in the field of cosmetology. Though there are various indications for its use, controlled trials are needed to determine its real efficacy. The aloe vera plant, its properties, mechanism ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Vitamin C (oral)
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Vitamin C basically promotes collagen expression, and stimulates collagen production. I could make a full thread on vitamin C its so legit

The Roles of Vitamin C in Skin Health

The primary function of the skin is to act as a barrier against insults from the environment, and its unique structure reflects this. The skin is composed of two layers: the epidermal outer layer is highly cellular and provides the barrier function, and ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Reccomendation :

poorcel
vitamin c 500mg/ day
tretinoin (work up to 0.05% ED)
dermarolling 1mm (These derma roller size needles are more effective in inducing the production of collagen http://dermarollerqmd.com/demarolling-therapy/what-size-derma-roller-should-i-use/) 1 time weekly
sunscreen: spf 15 blocks 93% so in terms of ROI this is best

Richcel:
vitamin C 2grams /day (drink enough water so you dont get kidney stone
tretinoin (work up to 0.05% ED)
dermarolling 1mm 1 time weekly
sunscreen: spf 50
Bovine: 200mg / kg of body weight
Red light therapy: 15-30minutes daily
Aloe vera (topically or oral, although topical seems to have almost no irritation)

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Does Isotretinoinum Increase Collagen?

 

[Deleted member 1849]

Does Isotretinoinum Increase Collagen?

no it's terrible for skin.

 

[randomvanish]

Does Isotretinoinum Increase Collagen?

of course it does.

 

[BasedSpinelet257]

Post-acne use tazarotene+ghkcu+redlight+derminator2... advanced level collagen routine... but don't use tazarotene unless you are 100% acne free

Any benefit to using Tazorac over Tretinoin of the same strength? I also remember you mention that Adapalene/Differin acts on different receptors than Tret, so is there significant benefit in having both in a routine?

 

[Leforrt3000]

All those supplements are overdoing it, theres no proof that combined they stack the effect and its just being greedy with money overall. Red light + one other thing is adequate. Also you only need 1250 mg of aloe vera supplementation, more is counterproductive, so its really cheap overall. Plus excessive amounts seem to cause stomach cancer in rodents.

 

[Deleted member 534]

Damn this thread aged well ngl

 

[Davidjolski]

Collagen is for homosexuals

 

[Deleted member 1849]

of course it does.

What I've said about accutane in the past is wrong. It's a great product cycle it eod for 4 weeks every couple of months. Should be good.

Any benefit to using Tazorac over Tretinoin of the same strength? I also remember you mention that Adapalene/Differin acts on different receptors than Tret, so is there significant benefit in having both in a routine?

Tazorac mogs in comparison to Tret, although it is VERY irritating and not practically the best. I think tret acts on all of the receptors if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Deleted member 534]

Collagen is for homosexuals

When the coping is too stronk

If you don’t apply sunscreen and retin A daily combine that with healthy diet and supplements than you are not even trying

 

[Deleted member 502]

So is dermarolling good or bad for the skin? Can you faggots make a decision or create a poll.

 

[DrunkenSailor]

So is dermarolling good or bad for the skin? Can you faggots make a decision or create a poll.

Who said it’s bad?

 

[Lev Peshkov]

Copper peptides?

 

[LooksmaxFanatic]

Please give me a TLDR which Red Light device to buy (Europe)

 

[WannaBeA6]

why no mentioning of CO2 or microneedling?

 

[Deleted member 1849]

why no mentioning of CO2 or microneedling?

dermarolling is microneedling and there are many other more effective ways to help the skin than CO2