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Why im hopping off letro
So im feeling like shit, i was waiting for the phase of really feeling like shit to pass, as my pth axis naturally produced more test to bring me e2 back up, and hopefully feel better then before, but it hasnt happened. It sorta did, from week 3.5 to the end of week 5, i definitely felt better then between weeks 1.5 and 3 (those were some tough times). So my e2 for sure went up, but it never went up enough to how it was before i started letrozole, my libido was up (stronge urge to jack off oed, only did it like once or twice a week) But compared to my libido before (stronge urge to jack off daily, did like twice a week to eod). The biggest issue was my mood, i just never felt good, i mean sometimes of course but not like before. And throughout all this, i didnt really notice and higher tests effects or symptoms, no extra mass, no extra drive, not any leaner then i would have been without letro. So obviously the decision was to hop off letro.
So whats next?
Well, currently im still tapering off letro (Dont want e2 to spike) , ill be done by sunday. However i do have plans, and i know im gonna get alot of shit for this,
ENCLO
"Muhhh pin testttt" "But muhhh sarms bad" "but saar your liver"
Well unfortunately actually running exogenous testosterone isnt really on the cards with the nosy ass parents i have, and also it is a crazy commitment for me right now, one that i cant undertake. Dont get me wrong, if i could run test, i would, it is literally all i want in this world, even if i had to pin with a fucking sewing needle bro. I dont think ENCLO is that bad, of course when you compare it with actual test, its gonna be dog shit, but i will just be using it to avoid suppression from other mild anabolics, i wanna get stronger. If i were to take just enclo, of course its not gonna do much, its enclo, it will never raise your test levels to a point that it gives supraphysiological effects, but as a pseudo test base, it works to avoid suppression. Also, I'm not too worried about the health effects from the enclo, only thing i could be worried about is liver ezymes and lipids, but those really arent hard to fix, if i was taking a shit load of like fucking rad140 and var, then yeah my liver is gonna be literal goop, but just adding liver support and fish oils will fix the issues you would see with just enclo, and honestly any milder, Anyways what else am i gonna take with this enclo? VAR, this is just for the actual strength building part of the cycle, and yes, its not great for your liver, but im only taking it for 8 weeks, and as long as im on top of my ancillaries i should be fine. Im also adding 10mg aromasin daily, if i feel any high e sides. Theres one more thing im adding to this stack, this one im gonna get the most shit for, and i really need to mention in advance, ITS ONLY FOR SLEEP, mk-677, i know i know, absolute dogshit for any actual gh gains, but i dont care about that, im not expecting anything like that, i just want the better sleep and recovery.
So heres the final stack
FINAL STACK:
12.5mg Enclo daily
5-10mg aromasin (either for the whole cycle or added if needed)
10mg VAR daily
10mg MK daily (ONLY FOR SLEEP, taken before bed to avoid hunger)
NAC Daily
TUDCA Daily
Fish oil daily
Please give me advice on dosing or timing or anything.
Much love
So im feeling like shit, i was waiting for the phase of really feeling like shit to pass, as my pth axis naturally produced more test to bring me e2 back up, and hopefully feel better then before, but it hasnt happened. It sorta did, from week 3.5 to the end of week 5, i definitely felt better then between weeks 1.5 and 3 (those were some tough times). So my e2 for sure went up, but it never went up enough to how it was before i started letrozole, my libido was up (stronge urge to jack off oed, only did it like once or twice a week) But compared to my libido before (stronge urge to jack off daily, did like twice a week to eod). The biggest issue was my mood, i just never felt good, i mean sometimes of course but not like before. And throughout all this, i didnt really notice and higher tests effects or symptoms, no extra mass, no extra drive, not any leaner then i would have been without letro. So obviously the decision was to hop off letro.
So whats next?
Well, currently im still tapering off letro (Dont want e2 to spike) , ill be done by sunday. However i do have plans, and i know im gonna get alot of shit for this,
ENCLO
"Muhhh pin testttt" "But muhhh sarms bad" "but saar your liver"
Well unfortunately actually running exogenous testosterone isnt really on the cards with the nosy ass parents i have, and also it is a crazy commitment for me right now, one that i cant undertake. Dont get me wrong, if i could run test, i would, it is literally all i want in this world, even if i had to pin with a fucking sewing needle bro. I dont think ENCLO is that bad, of course when you compare it with actual test, its gonna be dog shit, but i will just be using it to avoid suppression from other mild anabolics, i wanna get stronger. If i were to take just enclo, of course its not gonna do much, its enclo, it will never raise your test levels to a point that it gives supraphysiological effects, but as a pseudo test base, it works to avoid suppression. Also, I'm not too worried about the health effects from the enclo, only thing i could be worried about is liver ezymes and lipids, but those really arent hard to fix, if i was taking a shit load of like fucking rad140 and var, then yeah my liver is gonna be literal goop, but just adding liver support and fish oils will fix the issues you would see with just enclo, and honestly any milder, Anyways what else am i gonna take with this enclo? VAR, this is just for the actual strength building part of the cycle, and yes, its not great for your liver, but im only taking it for 8 weeks, and as long as im on top of my ancillaries i should be fine. Im also adding 10mg aromasin daily, if i feel any high e sides. Theres one more thing im adding to this stack, this one im gonna get the most shit for, and i really need to mention in advance, ITS ONLY FOR SLEEP, mk-677, i know i know, absolute dogshit for any actual gh gains, but i dont care about that, im not expecting anything like that, i just want the better sleep and recovery.
So heres the final stack
FINAL STACK:
12.5mg Enclo daily
5-10mg aromasin (either for the whole cycle or added if needed)
10mg VAR daily
10mg MK daily (ONLY FOR SLEEP, taken before bed to avoid hunger)
NAC Daily
TUDCA Daily
Fish oil daily
Please give me advice on dosing or timing or anything.
Much love
