no many people with flat zygos and PCt
Your Sphenoid is tilted one of your hips probably protrudes more then the other and you probably walk with your feet out.
none of those two things are true but i think ur right about the tilted sphenoid
WHAT THE FUCK I JUST REALIZED I DO WALK WITH MY FEET A BIT OUT. is this shit fixable?
Yes. I'll throw you a bone bud the side your foot is out on while you walk is probably the side with the more severe nct. The entire body is interconnected from the feet to the pelvis up through the spine to the sphenoid thus to the face.
appreciate it bro. so could consciously correcting this when walking potentially fix it?
To fix something like NCT you have to fix the feet then the pelvis then the sphenoid. It is not fast nor easy.
Holy fuck this is the same for me as well jfl
It's the same for everyone if your human
Bro I have the same droopy eye as OP and have all those things (also anterior and lateral pelvic tilt) jfl
Jfl I have atp as well
How would you fix the sphenoid?
so it is even realistically worth trying to correct or is it damn near impossible
Yes, through sitting and many things on modern life most peoples pelvises are fucked thus is their feet and through their pelvis being out of place the spine will compensate to keep you always looking forward thus causing asymmetry in the spine (Which is most of the time wrongfully diagnosed as scoliosis) but most of the time it's a Left AIC pattern where the left side of your hip is more forward and externally rotated and your right is internally rotated there are other forms this is just one as an example. This is the sphenoid bone what does it look like? Your pelvis. If one is out of place so is the other, if you want to see the cause of most peoples facial asymmetry look at their pelvis. Usually one side of the face will be more protruded and flared out when the pelvis of that side is the same. As above as below. Remember EVERYTHING is connected.
JFL I have the same droopy eye shit you do with all the body imbalances toolmao all three of us retards are in the exact same boat
GreenRay be possibly saving us rn
This simple pelvis being out of wack will fuck up your whole body by favoring one side over the other and strengthening the muscles of one side over the other. I want you guys from now on when you notice someone ugly or really ugly to look at their legs and how they walk. Notice their feet if they are flared out if they walk with a preference to one side. Notice how they sit. You'll piece these things together the more you observe.
Anything of value is worth trying.
I knew my pelvis was rotated in anterior and lateral but I thought I was just overthinking when I noticed one side is more forward than the other lmao. But it's the right side that is more forward though along with being more up (due to lateral pelvic tilt) and guess what so is my right side of the face
even my right shoulder is higher than the left and surprisingly I was thinking about my eye assymetry before coming here too jflHow would you even fix that though, first you'd need to somehow fix both the feet and the legs, then move on to the pelvis and spine and shoulders and finally fix the sphenoid somehow?
really appreciate u taking the time out of ur day and helping us three droopyeyecels out. means a lot brodie, i was always wondering why only one eye was droopy.
Seriously @GreenRay88 thank you so much for coming to this thread I had noticed this assymetry for long and might have never put together all the pieces if it weren't for you
No problem bro always happy to help a fellow looksmaxxer out. Listen if you fix your pelvis and these issues your body will feel and function much better.
No problem bro. Most people on the org blame anything that doesn't have a toddlers level of explanation simply and soley on genetics. Height- Genetic Facial Asymmetry-Genetic Small Dick- Genetic etc etc etc fill in the blank if it isn't a 1+1=2 type of problem genetics will be blamed. This is not the correct approach one should have nor is it even good if your looksmaxxing because it puts this glass ceiling of muh genetics for you to blame and never improve or do anything about it. Trust me genetics play a role but so do MANY other things chances are if you have a good or decent base it's not over for you and there are many things you can do.
Occlusion if you have fucked occlusion and by this I mean your bite then your sphenoid is probably fucked up. I'm fixing my occlusion in January and I'll hopefully see some facial changes.I knew my pelvis was rotated in anterior and lateral but I thought I was just overthinking when I noticed one side is more forward than the other lmao. But it's the right side that is more forward though along with being more up (due to lateral pelvic tilt) and guess what so is my right side of the face
How would you even fix that though, first you'd need to somehow fix both the feet and the legs, then move on to the pelvis and spine and shoulders and finally fix the sphenoid somehow?
I think the legs and pelvis are fixable with exercises but how would you even fix the rest like the sphenoid?
Did u experience something similar as well regarding ur pelvis, feet and spine?
What method are you using to fix your occlusion, traditional braces, expander?
Yea lol same with me but the other side. My left side of my face is larger and my left eye is higher along with my left shoulder being higher and it's because of picrel.I knew my pelvis was rotated in anterior and lateral but I thought I was just overthinking when I noticed one side is more forward than the other lmao. But it's the right side that is more forward though along with being more up (due to lateral pelvic tilt) and guess what so is my right side of the face
How would you even fix that though, first you'd need to somehow fix both the feet and the legs, then move on to the pelvis and spine and shoulders and finally fix the sphenoid somehow?
I think the legs and pelvis are fixable with exercises but how would you even fix the rest like the sphenoid?
I'm getting invisalign
Yea my foot is a little bit flared out and my left hip is also more flared out and I've been incorrectly diagnosed with scoliosis because of it.
so this is prob the reason my head seems kind of tilted even when im not tilting it on purpose, correct?
Do u any legit way to fix it? My right feet fully flares out to the side lmao and my right side of my face is far more recessed than my left
Does your right side of the face look like it grew a bit "inward"? My left side has a worse and lower eye flatter face and is much worse than my right but it also kind of seems like the bones especially the jawline ends a bit further inside the cranium than the right if you know what I mean. I'm not sure if that's because it's "inward" or because the jawline, maxilla and everything would be rotated to one side?
Yes. Because your body is in compensation. It is compensating for it not being in it's correct position.
Honestly this is like one of the hardest things to fix because you have to like unfuck your entire body. Usually people go to actual physical therapists who are trained in this and they'll help you since they see this a lot. I'm just some nigga on the internet but they actually study this like for a job.
same here bro
But invisalign wouldn't treat the root cause which are your bones would it?
So I should go speak to a physio then? Alright. Thanks for the help man
JFL our bones are so fucked up
Does your "inward" side also have the teeth a bit higher (or lower) and more "inward" than the other? I even have a gap between my canine and front teeth on that side jfl
lmfaooooo. well at least we know the cause of it now. we are getting somewhere jfl
Yes it would not treat the root cause but it also would help the problem that is already there. I will give you an example let us say you have an improper bite you have malocclusion. Your teeth on the right side clench fully but due to this maloclussion you cannot bite down fully on the left side because your teeth are fucked up. What does this mean? Your left side is higher then your right in your mouth because you cannot bite down fully. This lack of proper bite then goes down your spine so to say, if your left side is higher and your right is lower then your sphenoid and other facial bones will adjust and then your spine and pelvis etc etc. A splint called the Starecta tries to fix this by the same principle. If you bite on an even plane it will try to restore symmetry down the line because now your bite is even and not twisted.
just looked, i dont think so. but i had braces and a palate expander as a kid so that could be why I dont.
Yea you should. I'm getting one soon
