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[THEORY] Could Menstrual Blood Derived Stem Cells Regenerate Adult Growth Plates?

Disclaimer: This is only a Theory based on regenerative medicine literature. There is currently no evidence that this works for humans.



The Background:

One of the biggest limitations in height increase is the closure of the epiphyseal plates after puberty.

Current medicine has no proven method to regenerate a functional adult growth plate.

However one stem cell source that is largely overlooked is Menstrual Blood Derived Stromal Cells (MenSCs).

Unlike ordinary fibroblasts MenSCs:

- Self renew rapidly

- Exhibit mesenchymal stem cell characteristics
- Secrete numerous regenerative growth factors
- Promote angiogenesis
- Modulate inflammation

- Show strong regenerative effects in multiple animal models


The Study:

A 2023 mouse study compared MenSCs with fibroblasts/keratinocytes in diabetic wounds.

Results:

- Better tissue regeneration

- Faster Wound closure
- Increased blood vessel formation
- Reduced scar tissue

- More normal tissue architecture


This suggests MenSCs possess unusually strong regenerative capabilities compared with convertional skin cells.


Why this is interesting:

Growth plates are specialized cartilage.

Skin, cartilage and bone all rely on:

- extracellular matrix remodeling

- stem cell differentiation
- cytokine signaling
- angiogenesis

- tissue organization

If MenSCs outperform ordinary cells in one regenerative environment...

Could they also contribute to cartilage regeneration?


Hypothetical Mechanism:

Step 1

Harvest MenSCs from menstrual blood.

Expand them in culture.

Step 2

Differentiate them toward chondrocytes using factors like:

TGF-ฮฒ3

BMP-2/BMP-7
SOX9 induction

IGF-1

Goal:

Create cartilage-producing cells instead of generic stromal cells.

Step 3


Remove the fused epiphyseal bone bridge.


This is the largest obstacle.

Once growth plates fuse, bone occupies the former cartilage region.

Without creating a new space, there is nowhere for new cartilage to form.

Step 4

Implant the cells inside a biodegradable scaffold.


The scaffold would mimic:

resting zone
proliferative zone
hypertrophic zone

Essentially attempting to recreate an artificial growth plate.

Step 5

Allow MenSC-derived chondrocytes to:


produce collagen II
produce aggrecan
establish columnar organization

integrate with surrounding bone

Step 6

If successful...


Endochondral ossification could theoretically resume.

New cartilage would continuously form.

Bone would continuously replace hypertrophic cartilage.

Longitudinal growth could theoretically occur again.


Supporting Evidence:


MenSCs have demonstrated
:


cartilage differentiation in laboratory studies

secretion of VEGF
secretion of HGF
secretion of TGF-ฮฒ
immunomodulatory effects
high proliferation

low ethical concerns

Compared with many adult stem cell sources, they are relatively easy to obtain.

Problems:

This is where reality hits.


No published study has shown MenSCs can:

regenerate a complete growth plate
reopen fused epiphyses
increase adult height
recreate the zonal architecture of a native growth plate

The biology of a growth plate is vastly more complex than wound healing.

Biggest Bottleneck:

The stem cells probably aren't the hardest problem.


The hardest problem is recreating:

growth plate geometry
mechanical loading
endocrine signaling
precise organization of chondrocytes

Without all of those, longitudinal growth is unlikely to occur.


Conclusion:

MenSCs are one of the more intriguing adult stem cell sources in regenerative medicine because they exhibit strong regenerative properties in several experimental settings.


However, there is currently no evidence that they can regenerate a functional adult growth plate or increase height after growth plate fusion. Any application to height increase remains a hypothesis that would require extensive preclinical and clinical research before it could be considered plausible.
 
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[THEORY] Could Menstrual Blood Derived Stem Cells Regenerate Adult Growth Plates?

Disclaimer: This is only a Theory based on regenerative medicine literature. There is currently no evidence that this works for humans.



The Background:

One of the biggest limitations in height increase is the closure of the epiphyseal plates after puberty.

Current medicine has no proven method to regenerate a functional adult growth plate.

However one stem cell source that is largely overlooked is Menstrual Blood Derived Stromal Cells (MenSCs).

Unlike ordinary fibroblasts MenSCs:

- Self renew rapidly

- Exhibit mesenchymal stem cell characteristics
- Secrete numerous regenerative growth factors
- Promote angiogenesis
- Modulate inflammation

- Show strong regenerative effects in multiple animal models


The Study:

A 2023 mouse study compared MenSCs with fibroblasts/keratinocytes in diabetic wounds.

Results:

- Better tissue regeneration

- Faster Wound closure
- Increased blood vessel formation
- Reduced scar tissue

- More normal tissue architecture


This suggests MenSCs possess unusually strong regenerative capabilities compared with convertional skin cells.


Why this is interesting:

Growth plates are specialized cartilage.

Skin, cartilage and bone all rely on:

- extracellular matrix remodeling

- stem cell differentiation
- cytokine signaling
- angiogenesis

- tissue organization

If MenSCs outperform ordinary cells in one regenerative environment...

Could they also contribute to cartilage regeneration?


Hypothetical Mechanism:

Step 1


Harvest MenSCs from menstrual blood.

Expand them in culture.

Step 2

Differentiate them toward chondrocytes using factors like:

TGF-ฮฒ3

BMP-2/BMP-7
SOX9 induction

IGF-1

Goal:

Create cartilage-producing cells instead of generic stromal cells.

Step 3


Remove the fused epiphyseal bone bridge.

This is the largest obstacle.

Once growth plates fuse, bone occupies the former cartilage region.


Without creating a new space, there is nowhere for new cartilage to form.

Step 4

Implant the cells inside a biodegradable scaffold.


The scaffold would mimic:

resting zone
proliferative zone
hypertrophic zone


Essentially attempting to recreate an artificial growth plate.

Step 5

Allow MenSC-derived chondrocytes to:


produce collagen II
produce aggrecan
establish columnar organization

integrate with surrounding bone

Step 6

If successful...


Endochondral ossification could theoretically resume.

New cartilage would continuously form.

Bone would continuously replace hypertrophic cartilage.


Longitudinal growth could theoretically occur again.


Supporting Evidence:


MenSCs have demonstrated
:


cartilage differentiation in laboratory studies

secretion of VEGF
secretion of HGF
secretion of TGF-ฮฒ
immunomodulatory effects
high proliferation

low ethical concerns

Compared with many adult stem cell sources, they are relatively easy to obtain.

Problems:

This is where reality hits.


No published study has shown MenSCs can:

regenerate a complete growth plate
reopen fused epiphyses
increase adult height
recreate the zonal architecture of a native growth plate


The biology of a growth plate is vastly more complex than wound healing.

Biggest Bottleneck:

The stem cells probably aren't the hardest problem.


The hardest problem is recreating:

growth plate geometry
mechanical loading
endocrine signaling
precise organization of chondrocytes


Without all of those, longitudinal growth is unlikely to occur.


Conclusion:

MenSCs are one of the more intriguing adult stem cell sources in regenerative medicine because they exhibit strong regenerative properties in several experimental settings.


However, there is currently no evidence that they can regenerate a functional adult growth plate or increase height after growth plate fusion. Any application to height increase remains a hypothesis that would require extensive preclinical and clinical research before it could be considered plausible.
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[THEORY] Could Menstrual Blood Derived Stem Cells Regenerate Adult Growth Plates?

Disclaimer: This is only a Theory based on regenerative medicine literature. There is currently no evidence that this works for humans.



The Background:

One of the biggest limitations in height increase is the closure of the epiphyseal plates after puberty.

Current medicine has no proven method to regenerate a functional adult growth plate.

However one stem cell source that is largely overlooked is Menstrual Blood Derived Stromal Cells (MenSCs).

Unlike ordinary fibroblasts MenSCs:

- Self renew rapidly

- Exhibit mesenchymal stem cell characteristics
- Secrete numerous regenerative growth factors
- Promote angiogenesis
- Modulate inflammation

- Show strong regenerative effects in multiple animal models


The Study:

A 2023 mouse study compared MenSCs with fibroblasts/keratinocytes in diabetic wounds.

Results:

- Better tissue regeneration

- Faster Wound closure
- Increased blood vessel formation
- Reduced scar tissue

- More normal tissue architecture


This suggests MenSCs possess unusually strong regenerative capabilities compared with convertional skin cells.


Why this is interesting:

Growth plates are specialized cartilage.

Skin, cartilage and bone all rely on:

- extracellular matrix remodeling

- stem cell differentiation
- cytokine signaling
- angiogenesis

- tissue organization

If MenSCs outperform ordinary cells in one regenerative environment...

Could they also contribute to cartilage regeneration?


Hypothetical Mechanism:

Step 1


Harvest MenSCs from menstrual blood.

Expand them in culture.

Step 2

Differentiate them toward chondrocytes using factors like:

TGF-ฮฒ3

BMP-2/BMP-7
SOX9 induction

IGF-1

Goal:

Create cartilage-producing cells instead of generic stromal cells.

Step 3


Remove the fused epiphyseal bone bridge.

This is the largest obstacle.

Once growth plates fuse, bone occupies the former cartilage region.


Without creating a new space, there is nowhere for new cartilage to form.

Step 4

Implant the cells inside a biodegradable scaffold.


The scaffold would mimic:

resting zone
proliferative zone
hypertrophic zone


Essentially attempting to recreate an artificial growth plate.

Step 5

Allow MenSC-derived chondrocytes to:


produce collagen II
produce aggrecan
establish columnar organization

integrate with surrounding bone

Step 6

If successful...


Endochondral ossification could theoretically resume.

New cartilage would continuously form.

Bone would continuously replace hypertrophic cartilage.


Longitudinal growth could theoretically occur again.


Supporting Evidence:


MenSCs have demonstrated
:


cartilage differentiation in laboratory studies

secretion of VEGF
secretion of HGF
secretion of TGF-ฮฒ
immunomodulatory effects
high proliferation

low ethical concerns

Compared with many adult stem cell sources, they are relatively easy to obtain.

Problems:

This is where reality hits.


No published study has shown MenSCs can:

regenerate a complete growth plate
reopen fused epiphyses
increase adult height
recreate the zonal architecture of a native growth plate


The biology of a growth plate is vastly more complex than wound healing.

Biggest Bottleneck:

The stem cells probably aren't the hardest problem.


The hardest problem is recreating:

growth plate geometry
mechanical loading
endocrine signaling
precise organization of chondrocytes


Without all of those, longitudinal growth is unlikely to occur.


Conclusion:

MenSCs are one of the more intriguing adult stem cell sources in regenerative medicine because they exhibit strong regenerative properties in several experimental settings.


However, there is currently no evidence that they can regenerate a functional adult growth plate or increase height after growth plate fusion. Any application to height increase remains a hypothesis that would require extensive preclinical and clinical research before it could be considered plausible.
@Tesarossa @Jordan Barrett @La Vita
 
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[THEORY] Could Menstrual Blood Derived Stem Cells Regenerate Adult Growth Plates?

Disclaimer: This is only a Theory based on regenerative medicine literature. There is currently no evidence that this works for humans.



The Background:

One of the biggest limitations in height increase is the closure of the epiphyseal plates after puberty.

Current medicine has no proven method to regenerate a functional adult growth plate.

However one stem cell source that is largely overlooked is Menstrual Blood Derived Stromal Cells (MenSCs).

Unlike ordinary fibroblasts MenSCs:

- Self renew rapidly

- Exhibit mesenchymal stem cell characteristics
- Secrete numerous regenerative growth factors
- Promote angiogenesis
- Modulate inflammation

- Show strong regenerative effects in multiple animal models


The Study:

A 2023 mouse study compared MenSCs with fibroblasts/keratinocytes in diabetic wounds.

Results:

- Better tissue regeneration

- Faster Wound closure
- Increased blood vessel formation
- Reduced scar tissue

- More normal tissue architecture


This suggests MenSCs possess unusually strong regenerative capabilities compared with convertional skin cells.


Why this is interesting:

Growth plates are specialized cartilage.

Skin, cartilage and bone all rely on:

- extracellular matrix remodeling

- stem cell differentiation
- cytokine signaling
- angiogenesis

- tissue organization

If MenSCs outperform ordinary cells in one regenerative environment...

Could they also contribute to cartilage regeneration?


Hypothetical Mechanism:

Step 1


Harvest MenSCs from menstrual blood.

Expand them in culture.

Step 2

Differentiate them toward chondrocytes using factors like:

TGF-ฮฒ3

BMP-2/BMP-7
SOX9 induction

IGF-1

Goal:

Create cartilage-producing cells instead of generic stromal cells.

Step 3


Remove the fused epiphyseal bone bridge.

This is the largest obstacle.

Once growth plates fuse, bone occupies the former cartilage region.


Without creating a new space, there is nowhere for new cartilage to form.

Step 4

Implant the cells inside a biodegradable scaffold.


The scaffold would mimic:

resting zone
proliferative zone
hypertrophic zone


Essentially attempting to recreate an artificial growth plate.

Step 5

Allow MenSC-derived chondrocytes to:


produce collagen II
produce aggrecan
establish columnar organization

integrate with surrounding bone

Step 6

If successful...


Endochondral ossification could theoretically resume.

New cartilage would continuously form.

Bone would continuously replace hypertrophic cartilage.


Longitudinal growth could theoretically occur again.


Supporting Evidence:


MenSCs have demonstrated
:


cartilage differentiation in laboratory studies

secretion of VEGF
secretion of HGF
secretion of TGF-ฮฒ
immunomodulatory effects
high proliferation

low ethical concerns

Compared with many adult stem cell sources, they are relatively easy to obtain.

Problems:

This is where reality hits.


No published study has shown MenSCs can:

regenerate a complete growth plate
reopen fused epiphyses
increase adult height
recreate the zonal architecture of a native growth plate


The biology of a growth plate is vastly more complex than wound healing.

Biggest Bottleneck:

The stem cells probably aren't the hardest problem.


The hardest problem is recreating:

growth plate geometry
mechanical loading
endocrine signaling
precise organization of chondrocytes


Without all of those, longitudinal growth is unlikely to occur.


Conclusion:

MenSCs are one of the more intriguing adult stem cell sources in regenerative medicine because they exhibit strong regenerative properties in several experimental settings.


However, there is currently no evidence that they can regenerate a functional adult growth plate or increase height after growth plate fusion. Any application to height increase remains a hypothesis that would require extensive preclinical and clinical research before it could be considered plausible.
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will read but i wanted to be first 3 comments
 
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[THEORY] Could Menstrual Blood Derived Stem Cells Regenerate Adult Growth Plates?

Disclaimer: This is only a Theory based on regenerative medicine literature. There is currently no evidence that this works for humans.



The Background:

One of the biggest limitations in height increase is the closure of the epiphyseal plates after puberty.

Current medicine has no proven method to regenerate a functional adult growth plate.

However one stem cell source that is largely overlooked is Menstrual Blood Derived Stromal Cells (MenSCs).

Unlike ordinary fibroblasts MenSCs:

- Self renew rapidly

- Exhibit mesenchymal stem cell characteristics
- Secrete numerous regenerative growth factors
- Promote angiogenesis
- Modulate inflammation

- Show strong regenerative effects in multiple animal models


The Study:

A 2023 mouse study compared MenSCs with fibroblasts/keratinocytes in diabetic wounds.

Results:

- Better tissue regeneration

- Faster Wound closure
- Increased blood vessel formation
- Reduced scar tissue

- More normal tissue architecture


This suggests MenSCs possess unusually strong regenerative capabilities compared with convertional skin cells.


Why this is interesting:

Growth plates are specialized cartilage.

Skin, cartilage and bone all rely on:

- extracellular matrix remodeling

- stem cell differentiation
- cytokine signaling
- angiogenesis

- tissue organization

If MenSCs outperform ordinary cells in one regenerative environment...

Could they also contribute to cartilage regeneration?


Hypothetical Mechanism:

Step 1


Harvest MenSCs from menstrual blood.

Expand them in culture.

Step 2

Differentiate them toward chondrocytes using factors like:

TGF-ฮฒ3

BMP-2/BMP-7
SOX9 induction

IGF-1

Goal:

Create cartilage-producing cells instead of generic stromal cells.

Step 3


Remove the fused epiphyseal bone bridge.

This is the largest obstacle.

Once growth plates fuse, bone occupies the former cartilage region.


Without creating a new space, there is nowhere for new cartilage to form.

Step 4

Implant the cells inside a biodegradable scaffold.


The scaffold would mimic:

resting zone
proliferative zone
hypertrophic zone


Essentially attempting to recreate an artificial growth plate.

Step 5

Allow MenSC-derived chondrocytes to:


produce collagen II
produce aggrecan
establish columnar organization

integrate with surrounding bone

Step 6

If successful...


Endochondral ossification could theoretically resume.

New cartilage would continuously form.

Bone would continuously replace hypertrophic cartilage.


Longitudinal growth could theoretically occur again.


Supporting Evidence:


MenSCs have demonstrated
:


cartilage differentiation in laboratory studies

secretion of VEGF
secretion of HGF
secretion of TGF-ฮฒ
immunomodulatory effects
high proliferation

low ethical concerns

Compared with many adult stem cell sources, they are relatively easy to obtain.

Problems:

This is where reality hits.


No published study has shown MenSCs can:

regenerate a complete growth plate
reopen fused epiphyses
increase adult height
recreate the zonal architecture of a native growth plate


The biology of a growth plate is vastly more complex than wound healing.

Biggest Bottleneck:

The stem cells probably aren't the hardest problem.


The hardest problem is recreating:

growth plate geometry
mechanical loading
endocrine signaling
precise organization of chondrocytes


Without all of those, longitudinal growth is unlikely to occur.


Conclusion:

MenSCs are one of the more intriguing adult stem cell sources in regenerative medicine because they exhibit strong regenerative properties in several experimental settings.


However, there is currently no evidence that they can regenerate a functional adult growth plate or increase height after growth plate fusion. Any application to height increase remains a hypothesis that would require extensive preclinical and clinical research before it could be considered plausible.
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you came up with this yourself? This is very interesting
 
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let me think , nah
 
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[THEORY] Could Menstrual Blood Derived Stem Cells Regenerate Adult Growth Plates?

Disclaimer: This is only a Theory based on regenerative medicine literature. There is currently no evidence that this works for humans.



The Background:

One of the biggest limitations in height increase is the closure of the epiphyseal plates after puberty.

Current medicine has no proven method to regenerate a functional adult growth plate.

However one stem cell source that is largely overlooked is Menstrual Blood Derived Stromal Cells (MenSCs).

Unlike ordinary fibroblasts MenSCs:

- Self renew rapidly

- Exhibit mesenchymal stem cell characteristics
- Secrete numerous regenerative growth factors
- Promote angiogenesis
- Modulate inflammation

- Show strong regenerative effects in multiple animal models


The Study:

A 2023 mouse study compared MenSCs with fibroblasts/keratinocytes in diabetic wounds.

Results:

- Better tissue regeneration

- Faster Wound closure
- Increased blood vessel formation
- Reduced scar tissue

- More normal tissue architecture


This suggests MenSCs possess unusually strong regenerative capabilities compared with convertional skin cells.


Why this is interesting:

Growth plates are specialized cartilage.

Skin, cartilage and bone all rely on:

- extracellular matrix remodeling

- stem cell differentiation
- cytokine signaling
- angiogenesis

- tissue organization

If MenSCs outperform ordinary cells in one regenerative environment...

Could they also contribute to cartilage regeneration?


Hypothetical Mechanism:

Step 1


Harvest MenSCs from menstrual blood.

Expand them in culture.

Step 2

Differentiate them toward chondrocytes using factors like:

TGF-ฮฒ3

BMP-2/BMP-7
SOX9 induction

IGF-1

Goal:

Create cartilage-producing cells instead of generic stromal cells.

Step 3


Remove the fused epiphyseal bone bridge.

This is the largest obstacle.

Once growth plates fuse, bone occupies the former cartilage region.


Without creating a new space, there is nowhere for new cartilage to form.

Step 4

Implant the cells inside a biodegradable scaffold.


The scaffold would mimic:

resting zone
proliferative zone
hypertrophic zone


Essentially attempting to recreate an artificial growth plate.

Step 5

Allow MenSC-derived chondrocytes to:


produce collagen II
produce aggrecan
establish columnar organization

integrate with surrounding bone

Step 6

If successful...


Endochondral ossification could theoretically resume.

New cartilage would continuously form.

Bone would continuously replace hypertrophic cartilage.


Longitudinal growth could theoretically occur again.


Supporting Evidence:


MenSCs have demonstrated
:


cartilage differentiation in laboratory studies

secretion of VEGF
secretion of HGF
secretion of TGF-ฮฒ
immunomodulatory effects
high proliferation

low ethical concerns

Compared with many adult stem cell sources, they are relatively easy to obtain.

Problems:

This is where reality hits.


No published study has shown MenSCs can:

regenerate a complete growth plate
reopen fused epiphyses
increase adult height
recreate the zonal architecture of a native growth plate


The biology of a growth plate is vastly more complex than wound healing.

Biggest Bottleneck:

The stem cells probably aren't the hardest problem.


The hardest problem is recreating:

growth plate geometry
mechanical loading
endocrine signaling
precise organization of chondrocytes


Without all of those, longitudinal growth is unlikely to occur.


Conclusion:

MenSCs are one of the more intriguing adult stem cell sources in regenerative medicine because they exhibit strong regenerative properties in several experimental settings.


However, there is currently no evidence that they can regenerate a functional adult growth plate or increase height after growth plate fusion. Any application to height increase remains a hypothesis that would require extensive preclinical and clinical research before it could be considered plausible.
 
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bpedpremed posted the injection/prep protocol on his alt account on tiktok, but again being able to actually do this would be very fucking difficult.

just goes to show how faggots like myself who can't attract women would never be able to do such a thing. funny enough the hardest part about this is probably finding a woman with a healthy enough body willing to distribute her own period blood :forcedsmile:

i support it though, because in theory this could work.
 
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bpedpremed posted the injection/prep protocol on his alt account on tiktok, but again being able to actually do this would be very fucking difficult.

just goes to show how faggots like myself who can't attract women would never be able to do such a thing. funny enough the hardest part about this is probably finding a woman with a healthy enough body willing to distribute her own period blood :forcedsmile:

i support it though, because in theory this could work.
Yes haha, i think he will make a good post about this topic today
 
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Bit late
 
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Bro is always hating

mb, thought you meant my thread was to late
No bro im never hating on anyone
1788651938197
 
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dnr

but no it cant
 
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@bppremed
 
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2026 waterpulling
 
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nice thread, unfortunately it's going to take at least a decade for this to be commercially (if at all) available but very cool concept
 
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nice thread, unfortunately it's going to take at least a decade for this to be commercially (if at all) available but very cool concept
I agree
 
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so raw period + osteal distraction = holy height? ๐Ÿ˜นโœŒ๏ธ
 
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nice thread, unfortunately it's going to take at least a decade for this to be commercially (if at all) available but very cool concept
that's what is exactly so fucking brutal, too difficult to implement logistically for our time.

in another world, blanca would be the first ever donor :heart:
 
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