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Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture - [fight] until they give the jizyah willingly while they are humbled.where the fuck do you get your explanations????????? litterally one search shows you everything how ignorant are you and wrong, and sura 4:46 can be said to you exactlyI took all my words out of explinations with no sugar coating or hiding the meaning
So it now gives cause beli to subjugate unbelievers, but ok what if I accepted that maybe that's just referring to unbelievers in the given context. Then I have to accept that even as it expanded on the beliefs of the unbelievers and not on their actions, it was still not positing these beliefs as a reason for violence--can't get more generous than that.
I’m out rn I’ll reply to this one ltr as I don’t have time to read it rnA “creature” isn’t just an animal, as many of these answers like to imply. It simply means anything that’s living (even humans), according to the Arabic dictionary. “Bariyyah” doesn’t mean “Haywan”. And, please keep in mind that there are no synonyms in the Quran. Classical Arabic (i.e. the language of the Quran) is pure and doesn’t have words that mean the exact same thing.
Here is the full chapter:
There is a lot to go over. I would like to say that there’s no point in trying to be apologetic, as those who argue using verses similar to 98:6 are disingenuous and only wish to cause animosity (and also please the public, making them hear what they want to hear, and not the truth. This is evident by a lot of the answers here). It’s not like they are actually insulted. An atheist doesn’t even believe in the Quran doesn’t even care about what it says, much less be offended by it. A Christian or a Jew (main critics) are just hypocrites, considering that their Hebrew Bible and New Testament say a lot worse about disbelievers than just calling them the worst of all creatures.
Anyway, let’s see what the verse actually says:
The word for “disbelieved” here is “kafara”. The key word in all of this is “kafara”.
The root word for “kafara” is (كفر), which means to “conceal/cover/deny/hide/reject”. This is explained in Lane’s Lexicon:
A disbeliever is called a “Kafir” in Islam, because he hid the truth when it came to him. This means that he denied Islam.
The whole chapter is speaking with one condition, that the message of Islam came to the people. That’s why Allah said in the beginning:
Obviously, Islam has to come to them. If they reject it, then they are disbelievers/kafir (this is what a disbeliever is in Islam. Someone who rejects it only when they’ve heard of it in their lives and know what it truly is). If they’ve never heard of Islam before or they’ve heard of it but are ignorant of it, and then they die, they won’t be considered the worst of all creatures nor the best. They will be given a special test in the hereafter, according to the majority opinion.
As for those who’ve heard of Islam, aren’t ignorant of it, and still died as disbelievers, then 98:6 applies to them.
Ibn Kathir says that:
The reason why it is said that they are the worst in fashioning and creation is because the word “Bariyyah” comes from the same root of the word “Bari’”, which is one of Allah’s names which means “the fashioner/inventor”. Thus, the “Bariyyah” roughly means “the thing which was fashioned/invented by the fashioner/inventor” (i.e. creatures. “Bariyyah” has to do more of the material form of the creature, but still means creature).
They are “created in the worst form” because they did wrong with their bodies (please note that Allah didn’t create them like this, but they did so with their own bodies that they became corrupted due to the disbelief that they did).
But, be not mistaken. It’s not as if there is something hereditarily wrong with them that makes them the worst of creatures. It is rather the arrogance in them after the truth of the message of Islam had come to them. We know that there is nothing hereditarily wrong with them because:
As in regards to the latter point, Ibn Kathir stated that:
- They could still accept Islam before they die.
- Allah stated that he honored the Children of Adam/humanity (17:70). This is no matter religion.
I always cage how you insert my @ into some random texts so it looks like I’m the one encouraging the rape
Don't worry i destroyed these guys several times
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Verse 29 of chapter 9 of the Qur'an is notable as dealing with the imposition of tribute (ǧizya) on non-Muslims who have fallen under Muslim rule
this is the normal translation for the surah which is direct:
I litterally read your thread about destroying that faggots mega thread, he litterally disregarded it all just because he saw a Quran verse, he's such a fool and a retard he's obviously just a rage baiterDon't worry i destroyed these guys several times
They always use the same talking points. Look at how in this thread for example instead of addressing every single point one by one he just starts throwing "Muh surah this or surah that" and skipping that which makes him uncomfortable, switching suddenly the goal post and altering his own views during the conversation, showing a clear and deep lack of knowledge before the discussion itself while improvising desperately.
It's always the same modus operandi and lack of akhlaq, dignity and respect towards the one who is reading and learning
Why do Muslims conflate essense and person to be the same thing?
Genuinely perplexing race of beings these lot are. My buddy couldn’t seem to reconsile that WHAT you are isn’t the same as WHO you are I can’t even explain it using counting by identity vs division because he doesn’t know such things but the category of god is counted by division in the sense...Destroying TheBuffoon "God doesn't exist trust me bro" MEGATHREAD
Introduction This is the ultimate god doesn’t exist proof thread. I will be providing proof (mostly) here that it is not possible for a god to exist. This is also intended for users who don’t have a great understanding of the subject and want to learn more about it, as well as for the high iq...
elaborating on sura 9:29 as to WHY ITS PERMISSABLE TO KILL THE KAFFIR you fucking beainlet the reason is found in following verses because we commit Shirk and deny Mohammed and in the other verse because our denial of Islam and Mohammed == trying to extinguish Allahs light (google the verse I won’t tell you it’ll be the first one that appears when you google it) is the CASUS BELI REASON FOR SURA 9:29 HOLISTICALLY.
THE STATE OF YOUR RELIGION.majority of Gaza supported oct 7th and were celebrating when it happened
take for example youre living under sharia law, youre free to be what religion you want along as you Pay jizya tax, refusing to pay jizya tax and still wanting to be ignorant doesn't align with the rules under sharia law, no ones forcing you to convert or slaughtering you for being a kafir as long as youre paying jizya tax, I don't get when was punishment for refusing to pay taxes a act of terrorism, and also jizya is very cheap and affordable and gives benefits that muslims don't have access to like they're not forced to fight in a war unless they want to
nigga what kinda point is this, such a retarded take since in the next line it says as well as the messiah the son of Mary which means that its about Christians taking Jesus as god and as for jews taking their rabbis as lords here is another verse explaining itNotice how sura 9:31 says “takes their monks and rabbis as lords besides Allah”
Ask and find me a Jew or Christian who believes our monks and rabbis are equal to GOD
And yes I have raped @MaghrebGator (though he’s the best Muslim debater I’ll admit) and you and every Muslim on this form in these debates you can literally ask any person who uses this form that I routinely destroy the Umah and the Gaytheists here for fun, you Muslims should view me as one of the great crusader kings of the past because I put fear into the hearts of the Infidels
His motives were similar to that of breivik
No retardOh I’m aware but tbh idc
If he was ex or a Muslim reality is only ONE RELGION teaches you to chimp out and blow niggas up as we can see here he even if he was atheist learnt from his old Islamic upbringing that when your upset you ought to go
KABOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
You know what taqiyya means?
Yes obviously
Not good enough apparently
It’s taqiyya
No you can lie if you want to save your ass from getting killed, not to deceive people about how your religion is atleast within sunnism. Shia islam might have a differing view of this
Well yes there are separate conditions on that, it’s not included as part of it
No rebuttals just baseless assertions. Is this all Allahu ackbars can do?
Islam doesnt tell you to blow yourself alongside others up. Also are you like 13? „Allahu ackbars“No rebuttals just baseless assertions. Is this all Allahu ackbars can do?
True it doesn’t… that’s why the only people who do it as a sport are your peopleIslam doesnt tell you to blow yourself alongside others up. Also are you like 13? „Allahu ackbars“
Just because most people who blow themselves up are muslims doesnt mean that the religion encourages it. Most gay marriages happen in christian countries, does it mean christianity encourages it? Of course not.True it doesn’t… that’s why the only people who do it as a sport are your people
But it doesn’t tell you 72 virgins if you kill in cause of Jihad against infidel sooooooo…. Yeah great incentives to end them
“Christian countries” Christian countries don’t allow gay marriage look no further than some Latin American nations and African ones. Europeans are not Christian’s unless Slavic
Those countries ik are not truly christian, they are mostly secular faggots but theyre traditionally Christian and most people there are self-identifying as such despite not being that religious.“Christian countries”
Once again Islamic IQ playing again
You realise the “west” isn’t Christian right? You do realise that right? The west is secular agnostic humanitarian, at most it’s culturally Christian but religiously it’s agnostic it’s not Christian ask any random white man what their religion is they will say either NONE or say they are “spiritual new age”
So yeah nice try but you failed
Hadith skeptic or not doesn’t change the motivations of the Mujihatdin or however you spell it from taking an C9 and blowing you me and everybody up in the cause of Allah to get the martyr title and 72 virgins.
I never said all Muslims would do this… most Muslims wouldn’t do this and are just normal nighas like everybody elseThose countries ik are not truly christian, they are mostly secular faggots but theyre traditionally Christian and most people there are self-identifying as such despite not being that religious.
Youre right regarding the last part, those retarded mujahideens blow themselves up for reasons such as this but you expect me as a Muslim to support them?
Also keep calling me an abdool, im not some inbred goatfucking afghan whos going to behead you in public
in using hyperbole but there’s a large section that are weirdos who do this a shame but it is what it is it’s for this reason Muslims cannot justly critics terrorists but they don’t have to support them either yes this happened and she filed a complaint saying it’s shoving Christianity in the holiday . It’s that bad amongst whites that many have forgotten CHRISTmas is about Jesus . This is what I mean when I say whites aren’t Christian in the western world
