cycle for facial bone growth and definition

[iblamebonemass0]

Pharmaceuticals

3-4 IU Somatropin (HGH)
30 mg Oxandrolone (Anavar)
12.5 mg Enclomiphene



Supplements

1000 mg Citrus Bergamot + Omega-3
600 mg NAC + 500 mg TUDCA
3x 500 mg Berberine trough the day

3x 400 mg Clacium trough the day
4.4 mg Vitamin K of which 2 mg MK-4 + 6000 IU D3
300 mg Magnesium
20g Collagen Peptides

everything taking per day

pls lmk what I should add/change

 

[Deleted member 360680]

Keep coping

 

[Escanor1]

stupid ass stack wont do shit

 

[Noahlooksmaxx]

first osteoporosis is done after the age of 16 mostley, and why take anavar without test base, it surpresses and has like one of the lowest androgenic affects oat, and even if it didnt u cant run longer than few months MAX

 

[Escanor1]

first osteoporosis is done after the age of 16 mostley, and why take anavar without test base, it surpresses and has like one of the loast androgenic affects oat, and even if it didnt u cant run longer than few months MAX

he is using enclo he is scared of losing balls

 

[infrainfra]

Pharmaceuticals

5-6 IU Somatropin (HGH)
30 mg Oxandrolone (Anavar)
12.5 mg Enclomiphene



Supplements

1000 mg Citrus Bergamot + Omega-3
600 mg NAC + 500 mg TUDCA
3x 500 mg Berberine trough the day

3x 400 mg Clacium trough the day
4.4 mg Vitamin K of which 2 mg MK-4 + 6000 IU D3
300 mg Magnesium
20g Collagen Peptides

everything taking per day

pls lmk what I should add/change

your doing stuff the wrong way how old are you

 

[Noahlooksmaxx]

he is using enclo he is scared of losing balls

didnt even see, it stops the low t problem but still fucking shit stack

 

[BrutalN2L]

Pharmaceuticals

3-4 IU Somatropin (HGH)
30 mg Oxandrolone (Anavar)
12.5 mg Enclomiphene



Supplements

1000 mg Citrus Bergamot + Omega-3
600 mg NAC + 500 mg TUDCA
3x 500 mg Berberine trough the day

3x 400 mg Clacium trough the day
4.4 mg Vitamin K of which 2 mg MK-4 + 6000 IU D3
300 mg Magnesium
20g Collagen Peptides

everything taking per day

pls lmk what I should add/change

That’s a dog shit stack the supplements are decent but why would you run anavar without a test base? If your scared of your plates closing just do 100-150mg test with an AI and then add secondary anabolics on top. If you care about bones and don’t mind short term bloat use Nandrolone which is used for osteoporosis due it being highly bone anabolic. It also aromatises very little

 

[iblamebonemass0]

first osteoporosis is done after the age of 16 mostley, and why take anavar without test base, it surpresses and has like one of the lowest androgenic affects oat, and even if it didnt u cant run longer than few months MAX

yeah, but test aromatizes heavily into estrogen, causing water retention and let you look bloated . And Anavar has a massive upregulation of Type I Collagen synthesis, which creates the scaffolding for HGH-induced bone density. Also thought running the cycle only 8-10 weeks. Is it still shit?

 

[leedlee]

yeah, but test aromatizes heavily into estrogen, causing water retention and let you look bloated . And Anavar has a massive upregulation of Type I Collagen synthesis, which creates the scaffolding for HGH-induced bone density. Also thought running the cycle only 8-10 weeks. Is it still shit?

use an AI then if your worried about it aromatising

 

[Noahlooksmaxx]

yeah, but test aromatizes heavily into estrogen, causing water retention and let you look bloated . And Anavar has a massive upregulation of Type I Collagen synthesis, which creates the scaffolding for HGH-induced bone density. Also thought running the cycle only 8-10 weeks. Is it still shit?

well hgh is also bloating and not a 5 week ped, hgh is something you have to run 6-24 months

 

[Noahlooksmaxx]

use an AI then if your worried about it aromatising

low doses of test dont need it, and estrogen is very important for health and brain development

 

[leedlee]

low doses of test dont need it, and estrogen is very important for health and brain development

yeah i know but if he is like "uhh muh test will aromatise and make me bloated" he might aswell use an ai to mitigate it but do so in a way so that your estrogen isnt fucked by dosing it correctly in accordance to his bloodwork

 

[leedlee]

well hgh is also bloating and not a 5 week ped, hgh is something you have to run 6-24 months

yeah op doesnt have a clue what hes talking about lmao

 

[peter1287]

brutal natural selection

 

[iblamebonemass0]

well hgh is also bloating and not a 5 week ped, hgh is something you have to run 6-24 months

Yeah youre right prob should run GH longer. But HGH only bloats you if you use 4+ IU and ignore your blood sugar. 3-4 IU combined with Berberine bloating is completely mitigated.

 

[iblamebonemass0]

That’s a dog shit stack the supplements are decent but why would you run anavar without a test base? If your scared of your plates closing just do 100-150mg test with an AI and then add secondary anabolics on top. If you care about bones and don’t mind short term bloat use Nandrolone which is used for osteoporosis due it being highly bone anabolic. It also aromatises very little

Clinical data shows that Enclomiphene routinely doubles or triples natural testosterone production to 800 - 1100 ng/dL range. So should you bring exactly where a 100 - 150 mg Test cycle would do with an AI. Nandrolone gives a hell bloated face and stay in your system for up to a year. Is completley worthless, unless you switch to a lifelong, heavy injectable hormone regimen.

 

[BrutalN2L]

Clinical data shows that Enclomiphene routinely doubles or triples natural testosterone production to 800 - 1100 ng/dL range. So should you bring exactly where a 100 - 150 mg Test cycle would do with an AI. Nandrolone gives a hell bloated face and stay in your system for up to a year. Is completley worthless, unless you switch to a lifelong, heavy injectable hormone regimen.

Yes but you can’t run anabolics alongside enclomiphene and keep your test levels high the negative feedback from roids will suppress you and the enclomiphene won’t do much apart from desensitise your leydig cells for when you really need it. Also never use Deca only NPP(phenylpropionate) and the bloat will be manageable if your blood pressure control is on point. If you don’t want to run test stick to high dose GH only

 

[Noahlooksmaxx]

Yeah youre right prob should run GH longer. But HGH only bloats you if you use 4+ IU and ignore your blood sugar. 3-4 IU combined with Berberine bloating is completely mitigated.

below 4iu is cope asf

 

[iblamebonemass0]

Yes but you can’t run anabolics alongside enclomiphene and keep your test levels high the negative feedback from roids will suppress you and the enclomiphene won’t do much apart from desensitise your leydig cells for when you really need it. Also never use Deca only NPP(phenylpropionate) and the bloat will be manageable if your blood pressure control is on point. If you don’t want to run test stick to high dose GH only

At a dose of 30 mg of Anavar, split throughout the day, the suppressive signal is much weaker. Also if think the Enclomiphene doesn't need to keep your Testosterone at level of 1,200 ng/dL. Keeping LH and FSH just enough so that your testicles don't shut down completely. Keep in mind that Enclomiphene simply signals your brain to release natural pulses of LH. Your body will never release enough of its own LH to desensitize its own cells. Also high-dose HGH causes severe water retention and cause acromegaly growth. But ty for the recommendation on NPP

 

[iblamebonemass0]

below 4iu is cope asf

Not for BMD with still mitigating the risk of acromegaly. On a long cycle a low dose like 4 IU , so you dont get bloated is much better. (Not trying to build bodybuilding physic).

The Long-Term Effects of Growth Hormone Replacement on Bone Mineral Density and Trabecular Bone Score: Results of the 10-Year Prospective Follow-up - PMC

There are only few studies concerning about long-term effect of growth hormone (GH) replacement therapy on bone mineral density and bone microstructure. To assess effect of GH replacement therapy on bone mineral density (BMD) and trabecular bone ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Noahlooksmaxx]

Not for BMD with still mitigating the risk of acromegaly. On a long cycle a low dose like 4 IU , so you dont get bloated is much better. (Not trying to build bodybuilding physic).

The Long-Term Effects of Growth Hormone Replacement on Bone Mineral Density and Trabecular Bone Score: Results of the 10-Year Prospective Follow-up - PMC

There are only few studies concerning about long-term effect of growth hormone (GH) replacement therapy on bone mineral density and bone microstructure. To assess effect of GH replacement therapy on bone mineral density (BMD) and trabecular bone ...

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

surprise, you are not gh sufficient so it wont work for you

 

[santam]

WEAK ass stack

 

[delpiero]

Pharmaceuticals

3-4 IU Somatropin (HGH)
30 mg Oxandrolone (Anavar)
12.5 mg Enclomiphene



Supplements

1000 mg Citrus Bergamot + Omega-3
600 mg NAC + 500 mg TUDCA
3x 500 mg Berberine trough the day

3x 400 mg Clacium trough the day
4.4 mg Vitamin K of which 2 mg MK-4 + 6000 IU D3
300 mg Magnesium
20g Collagen Peptides

everything taking per day

pls lmk what I should add/change

Enclomiphene will help you generate more testosterone via hypothalamus. But if what you want is a compound that gives your testicles a kick so they begin producing T by themselves, then what you need is HCG. Mark as solution

 

[delpiero]

Enclomiphene will help you generate more testosterone via hypothalamus. But if what you want is a compound that gives your testicles a kick so they begin producing T by themselves, then what you need is HCG. Mark as solution

im takin both , enclo and hcg