Dating as an average male in 2024 is hell

[Hygienecel]

Some useful info about me: Exactly 6foot, late 30s, dead average looks, decent amount of money (not a wow amount), kind and laid back personality. So I would say im the average joe.

Anyways my dating life is horrible, im at the point of going MGTOW (MSTOW I KNOW) most decent girls at this age are taken or they are dating actual high value men (LMS) so the only girls im capable of dating are girls from dating apps and either they ugly worish entitled single mothers or the mentally ill, bitter sluts that have been on app for years that date a new guy every week, since she has unlimited options combined with the delusion that she is a queen that deserves the best. She will just try and wait for Mr perfect (chad) and chad would maybe consider fucking her if he is feeling desperate enough. Then Chad leaves her and she becomes even more bitter and hateful toward men like me. Girls from dating apps are the biggest delusional sluts and its hard to take them seriously but what options do average men have today?

Its impossible meeting girls outside, I go out with friends from time to time but all girls there are girls either taken or just not intreseted since they are strictly chad only.

Basically if i met any girl she will always think she can do better and leave after 2-3 dates and i will never be her first option.

Game over for average men.

inb4 muh looksmax

 

[News]

Foids are so picky

 

[SA7]

makeup pill

 

[Hygienecel]

Foids are so picky

Yeah and as an average man you stand no chance unless you have high amount of money or status.

 

[Squirtoutmabooty]

Yeah nigga you should be married at your age or go for younger women

 

[Mosh12]

What sort of women are you approaching? Hypergamy is hell

 

[Hygienecel]

Yeah nigga you should be married at your age or go for younger women

Younger women even have higher standards and there are more competition JFL. I can barely get a used up 40 year fat ugly old single mother, what makes you think i can get younger women?

 

[Hygienecel]

What sort of women are you approaching? Hypergamy is hell

I don't have super high standards like some users here. She cant be fat and I just need to find her cute and she cant have a slutty past or kids. For personality she has to be at least a decent human being (kind, calm and caring) with a brain so i can at least talk to her about stuff and have conversations that stimulates my brain. Hypergamy is hell and it will only get worse.

 

[Hygienecel]

Basically your only option is finding a decent partner when you are both young (late teens, early 20s) preferably in school. Make sure she doesn't have a slutty past and is not a whore that has used dating apps and fucked around because then it wont last. But if you ever come across a good girl you should treat her right and work things through and don't get to comfortable around her. Dont forget to always be at your best, always looking good, fresh and fit. Otherwise you will end up lonely and bitter like me.

Dont be afraid of making your move and approaching her if you come across a girl you find interesting, because otherwise some other low inhib normie will snatch her from you. If you get rejected so be it

 

[Deleted member 7580]

Stopped reading at late 30s

Collagen matters more than anything else and you don’t have that

 

[Deleted member 55631]

Some useful info about me: Exactly 6foot, late 30s, dead average looks, decent amount of money (not a wow amount), kind and laid back personality. So I would say im the average joe.

Anyways my dating life is horrible, im at the point of going MGTOW (MSTOW I KNOW) most decent girls at this age are taken or they are dating actual high value men (LMS) so the only girls im capable of dating are girls from dating apps and either they ugly worish entitled single mothers or the mentally ill, bitter sluts that have been on app for years that date a new guy every week, since she has unlimited options combined with the delusion that she is a queen that deserves the best. She will just try and wait for Mr perfect (chad) and chad would maybe consider fucking her if he is feeling desperate enough. Then Chad leaves her and she becomes even more bitter and hateful toward men like me. Girls from dating apps are the biggest delusional sluts and its hard to take them seriously but what options do average men have today?

Its impossible meeting girls outside, I go out with friends from time to time but all girls there are girls either taken or just not intreseted since they are strictly chad only.

Basically if i met any girl she will always think she can do better and leave after 2-3 dates and i will never be her first option.

Game over for average men.

inb4 muh looksmax

bro are u lean? You can’t do old of ur not at 12% bf minumim

 

[Hygienecel]

bro are u lean? You can’t do old of ur not at 12% bf minumim

Yeah im in shape.

 

[Deleted member 55631]

Yeah im in shape.

if ur above 12% bf your overweight.

 

[Hygienecel]

if ur above 12% bf your overweight.

im around 12%. I have been lower before and it didn't change much

 

[Hygienecel]

Stopped reading at late 30s

Collagen matters more than anything else and you don’t have that

Thats life

 

[thereallegend]

Get a foreign girl.

They’re always the best.

 

[janitormaxxing]

duh just looksmax

 

[Deleted member 55314]

Passportmax

 

[Zenis]

Some useful info about me: Exactly 6foot, late 30s, dead average looks, decent amount of money (not a wow amount), kind and laid back personality. So I would say im the average joe.

Anyways my dating life is horrible, im at the point of going MGTOW (MSTOW I KNOW) most decent girls at this age are taken or they are dating actual high value men (LMS) so the only girls im capable of dating are girls from dating apps and either they ugly worish entitled single mothers or the mentally ill, bitter sluts that have been on app for years that date a new guy every week, since she has unlimited options combined with the delusion that she is a queen that deserves the best. She will just try and wait for Mr perfect (chad) and chad would maybe consider fucking her if he is feeling desperate enough. Then Chad leaves her and she becomes even more bitter and hateful toward men like me. Girls from dating apps are the biggest delusional sluts and its hard to take them seriously but what options do average men have today?

Its impossible meeting girls outside, I go out with friends from time to time but all girls there are girls either taken or just not intreseted since they are strictly chad only.

Basically if i met any girl she will always think she can do better and leave after 2-3 dates and i will never be her first option.

Game over for average men.

inb4 muh looksmax

Water

 

[manlet cUnt]

Stopped reading at late 30s

Collagen matters more than anything else and you don’t have that

no, bones.

i have decent collagen and hair because diet and genetics and i'm truecel

 

[mogstars]

Some useful info about me: Exactly 6foot, late 30s, dead average looks, decent amount of money (not a wow amount), kind and laid back personality. So I would say im the average joe.

Anyways my dating life is horrible, im at the point of going MGTOW (MSTOW I KNOW) most decent girls at this age are taken or they are dating actual high value men (LMS) so the only girls im capable of dating are girls from dating apps and either they ugly worish entitled single mothers or the mentally ill, bitter sluts that have been on app for years that date a new guy every week, since she has unlimited options combined with the delusion that she is a queen that deserves the best. She will just try and wait for Mr perfect (chad) and chad would maybe consider fucking her if he is feeling desperate enough. Then Chad leaves her and she becomes even more bitter and hateful toward men like me. Girls from dating apps are the biggest delusional sluts and its hard to take them seriously but what options do average men have today?

Its impossible meeting girls outside, I go out with friends from time to time but all girls there are girls either taken or just not intreseted since they are strictly chad only.

Basically if i met any girl she will always think she can do better and leave after 2-3 dates and i will never be her first option.

Game over for average men.

inb4 muh looksmax

Fall of an empire

Jews and Chinks will take over while using blacks as dogs

 

[Canwefixit]

Based post OP, perfect explanation on how dating app whores are ruined. Sadly 99% of foids have used the apps before even if they deleted it

 

[romanstock]

I'm 34 and MSTOW for girls below 25 but MGTOW for girls over 25. Would legitimately rather die alone than be with an older woman (from the start). Yuk yuk yuk yuk.

 

[Moggee]

I always wondered how all 35+ year okd normies w nw2 are “dads” and married. No way a chick let u fuck hher

 

[AlexBrown84]

no shit you’re in your 30s

you should have a family and 3 kids by now

 

[Kamui]

I always wondered how all 35+ year okd normies w nw2 are “dads” and married. No way a chick let u fuck hher

Not every foid is Chad only when it comes to sex

Some bitches lower their standards tremendously after riding the CC in their prime late teens-mid 20s

 

[forevergymcelling]

Yeah ngl OP, it's pretty much over for you

At this age just focus on making money, hobbymaxxing, travelling and fucking hot escorts. Maybe go live with your single friends for companionship too.

An LTR at your age with a high quality woman is a pipe dream. That ship sailed decades ago

You have to be a fucking idiot to enter a LTR as an average looking man

I made a similar thread on lookism, but it looks like many of you faggots need to hear this here. I've seen far too many average looking cuckolds crying on this forum day in, day out about their lack of gfs. Listen up and listen good How can you expect to look like this and think any girl is...

looksmax.org

 

[Clown Show]

Damn, even in late 30s foids are chad-only...

 

[ShowerMaxxing]

Foids are so picky

For good reason, they have a larger investment when it comes to sex. Their is risk of pregnancy and having to carry a child for 9 months. Therefore they only want the best sperm. Whereas a man could impregnate 50 women in a day and walk away without any commitment

 

[Deleted member 30037]

Lower your standards

 

[Kamui]

Yeah ngl OP, it's pretty much over for you

At this age just focus on making money, hobbymaxxing, travelling and fucking hot escorts. Maybe go live with your single friends for companionship too.

An LTR at your age with a high quality woman is a pipe dream. That ship sailed decades ago

You have to be a fucking idiot to enter a LTR as an average looking man

I made a similar thread on lookism, but it looks like many of you faggots need to hear this here. I've seen far too many average looking cuckolds crying on this forum day in, day out about their lack of gfs. Listen up and listen good How can you expect to look like this and think any girl is...

looksmax.org

Life as a sub HTN is futile man, fuck I hate living

What age do you think is the last chance for men to look for an LTR with a quality foid who hasn’t been through too much dick or has excessive amounts of baggage?

 

[chadintraining]

Some useful info about me: Exactly 6foot, late 30s, dead average looks, decent amount of money (not a wow amount), kind and laid back personality. So I would say im the average joe.

Anyways my dating life is horrible, im at the point of going MGTOW (MSTOW I KNOW) most decent girls at this age are taken or they are dating actual high value men (LMS) so the only girls im capable of dating are girls from dating apps and either they ugly worish entitled single mothers or the mentally ill, bitter sluts that have been on app for years that date a new guy every week, since she has unlimited options combined with the delusion that she is a queen that deserves the best. She will just try and wait for Mr perfect (chad) and chad would maybe consider fucking her if he is feeling desperate enough. Then Chad leaves her and she becomes even more bitter and hateful toward men like me. Girls from dating apps are the biggest delusional sluts and its hard to take them seriously but what options do average men have today?

Its impossible meeting girls outside, I go out with friends from time to time but all girls there are girls either taken or just not intreseted since they are strictly chad only.

Basically if i met any girl she will always think she can do better and leave after 2-3 dates and i will never be her first option.

Game over for average men.

inb4 muh looksmax

Just shows how important it is to use your youth

 

[wollet2]

you must not have a big dick

and btw give up ure old. ldar or rope

 

[wollet2]

Just shows how important it is to use your youth

high value men peak at 30. the ideal man young girls fantasize about is some 8x6 30yo rich chad

op was/is just subhuman.

 

[Kamui]

high value men peak at 30. the ideal man young girls fantasize about is some 8x6 30yo chad

op was/is just subhuman.

Men peak at 80

 

[wollet2]

Men peak at 80

nah im srs. 30 is the peak for attractive men

this site is just a bunch of retarded 12yos

 

[hirochan]

Why are you wasting time. It's over, accept and cope with whoremaxxing. Why do you want to raise a child in toxic cucked society anyways. Homo and incel sons and rebellious disobedient thot daughters is all you gonna get. The environment is not conducive to legacy building if you are not in the elites (even that has a risk). It's like planting vegitations without building a fence to protect it from wild animals feasting on it.

 

[Kamui]

Just shows how important it is to use your youth

True, but at the end of the day it's still just looks

If he was an older Chad who aged well he could LTR a bitch in her 20s and live happily ever after

 

[autistic_tendencies]

get some veneers , huge looksmax and you look more approachable

 

[chadintraining]

True, but at the end of the day it's still just looks

If he was an older Chad who aged well he could LTR a bitch in her 20s and live happily ever after

Yeah, a chad is chad regardless of age

But a 39 yr old with an avg face is abt equal to a 21 year old with a 3.5/10 face

 

[hypernormie]

 

[6ft4]

29-33 are going to be make or break years for me in terms of getting an LTR or bachelor forever

 

[wollet2]

Foids are so picky

nah. ure just subhumans

 

[Tai Lung]

SEA????

 

[spongebob]

Whats your location?

 

[Skywalker]

 

[Seth Walsh]

29-33 are going to be make or break years for me in terms of getting an LTR or bachelor forever

Just over 11,000 homes available to buy in Ireland as prices continue to rise

Housing prices during 2023 rose by an average of 3.4%, the smallest increase since 2019, according to a new report.

www.thejournal.ie

 

[6ft4]

Just over 11,000 homes available to buy in Ireland as prices continue to rise

Housing prices during 2023 rose by an average of 3.4%, the smallest increase since 2019, according to a new report.

www.thejournal.ie

I plan to EE max
JFL @ paying 500k for a house then an old building two doors down from you gets converted into a deathnik centre with 200 deathniks

 

[Seth Walsh]

I plan to EE max
JFL @ paying 500k for a house then an old building two doors down from you gets converted into a deathnik centre with 200 deathniks

Fucking absolutely brutal

 

[chadintraining]

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I love how ppl act like top 10% is something special, like male model tier

Meanwhile, top 10% in reality is a strong mtn-htn maybe a chadlite depending on the area

Model tier is at least top 0.5%