Debate me if you have the guts to,you incels

[Deleted member 68202]

If you have any questions about the Bible lmk

he’s Hindu and Indian and he’s 14y, he just doesn’t care but he’s still my son

 

[LTNUser]

@tonka T you're right but if God exists and he is righteous won't evil cease?

 

[org3cel.RR]

he’s Hindu and Indian and he’s 14y, he just doesn’t care but he’s still my son

Holy fuck, nah im not wasting my time like that

 

[Deleted member 93678]

taylor hill is a god made thing

CORRECT

 

[LTNUser]

he’s Hindu and Indian and he’s 14y, he just doesn’t care but he’s still my son

Come on man you're just ruining my thread now

 

[ItsOverLawg]

Holy fuck I'm coming lois

 

[Deleted member 68202]

Come on man you're just ruining my thread now

bro ngl, the thread is already ruined

 

[LTNUser]

@org3cel.RR listen

 

[LTNUser]

bro ngl, the thread is already ruined

I don't care,I've reported who have ruined it

 

[ItsOverLawg]

You like that huh?? Nigga whose pussy is this motherfucker???? WHOSE PUSSY IS THIS MOTHERFUCKER

 

[ItsOverLawg]

Deeper huh???? Deeper???? YA DIGGIN IN ME NIGGA
YA DIGGING IN THE NIGGA

 

[ItsOverLawg]

Repeat after me "IM A LYING PIECE OF SHIT"

 

[tonka T]

@tonka T you're right but if God exists and he is righteous won't evil cease?

Idk I haven't even read the bible, my parents and everyone around me thought me to believe in god and I do

 

[LTNUser]

There is free will, you can do whatever you want, God wont like it tho, but everyone can do what they want, including destroying churchs etc

@org3cel.RR
If you need the fear of punishment to be good
It isnt really being good is it

 

[Deleted member 68202]

I don't care,I've reported who have ruined it

Rip @org3cel.RR

 

[ItsOverLawg]

BE HONEST MY NIGGA
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN FUCKED THIS GOOD?
No king
Are YOU SERIOUS MY NIGGA? YOU'RE FINE AS FUCK BRUH

 

[LTNUser]

Idk I haven't even read the bible, my parents and everyone around me thought me to believe in god and I do

Alright that's fine

 

[ItsOverLawg]

KING KING KING KING KING KING KING KING KING KING KING KING KING KING KING KING KING KING KING

 

[LTNUser]

Rip @org3cel.RR

Wth man I was about to have a good debate and you absolutely ruined it

 

[Deleted member 68202]

Wth man I was about to have a good debate and you absolutely ruined it

me??? they already ruined the thread bro.

 

[LTNUser]

me??? they already ruined the thread bro.

Bro atleast @org3cel.RR was ready for a debate but then you told him I was 14 and Hindu so he did not care,found it an absolute joke and a waste of time and left

 

[LTNUser]

@TechnoBoss pls take actions against the faggots that ruin the thread

 

[Deleted member 68202]

Bro atleast @org3cel.RR was ready for a debate but then you told him I was 14 and Hindu so he did not care,found it an absolute joke and a waste of time and left

because it is man, look at the arguments you just presented. I can tell my bro @org3cel.RR to debate you, if you want.

@org3cel.RR vem caralho representar a verdade da fé católica.

 

[Nick.Harte]

Hamudi is your god

 

[LTNUser]

because it is man, look at the arguments you just presented. I can tell my bro @org3cel.RR to debate you, if you want.

@org3cel.RR vem caralho representar a verdade da fé católica.

Did you even see what I replied?
How can you tell that it is a waste of time

 

[Deleted member 68202]

Did you even see what I replied?
How can you tell that it is a waste of time

yes.

 

[LTNUser]

yes.

No you did not

 

[Deleted member 68202]

@Underdog9494 I need you right here and rn bro

 

[holy]

Alright. Let's say: God doesn't exist.

Cool. Now, where do we base our moral framework on?

Evolution? Eh, that's weak.

Evolution selects for SURVIVAL, not truth or morality. Your moral intuitions are just chemical reactions that helped your ancestors survive. That's it. There's no truth value there.

Human well-being?

Okay, but WHY should we care about human wellbeing in a purposeless universe? Why is human wellbeing more important than, say, viral wellbeing? A virus just wants to reproduce and thrive - in a purely materialistic framework, how is that any less valid than human flourishing? You'd just be smuggling in values you can't justify.

Using reason to justify morality?

Reason is a TOOL, not a SOURCE. Reason can tell you how to get what you want, but it can't tell you what you SHOULD want. You can't derive an "ought" from an "is" - that's basic philosophy. Science can tell you what WILL happen if you torture a child, but it can't tell you that you SHOULDN'T do it.

Society?

Really? So when the majority of society supported slavery, was that moral? When Nazi Germany decided Jews were subhuman, was that moral? See how quick that falls apart? You can't base objective morality on subjective human opinions. That's just moral relativism with extra steps.

Well, if we can't base our morality on ANY of this, how can we say

- "The Holocaust was objectively wrong"
- "Human rights are universal"
- "We should fight against injustice"

when these, in a purely godless universe, are just meaningless?

They're just preferences, like preferring chocolate over vanilla.

The Holocaust wasn't "wrong". It was just atoms moving around.
Human rights aren't "universal". They're just made up concepts.
Injustice isn't "real". It's just stuff happening that you don't like.

You want to know what's really telling?
The fact that people who believe God doesn't exist live like objective morality exists. They get genuinely angry at injustice. They fight for human rights. They condemn evil. They're living in direct contradiction to their worldview.

The only way to ground objective morality is in a transcendent source - God.
Oh, but it's not God? Then, we're just left with:

1. Arbitrary social conventions
2. Personal preferences
3. Evolutionary programming
4. Chemical reactions in the brain

None of these can provide the universal, objective moral framework that you appeal to when making moral arguments. You're sawing off the branch you're sitting on.

 

[Deleted member 68202]

No you did not

Yes I read it all.low IQ arguments that already have been repeated on this forum all over again. That’s why I said to @org3cel.RR that he is not gonna have a good and intelligent debate.

but I already told him to come and debate you, so it’s all fine now.

 

[LTNUser]

Alright. Let's say: God doesn't exist.

Cool. Now, where do we base our moral framework on?

Evolution? Eh, that's weak.

Evolution selects for SURVIVAL, not truth or morality. Your moral intuitions are just chemical reactions that helped your ancestors survive. That's it. There's no truth value there.

Human well-being?

Okay, but WHY should we care about human wellbeing in a purposeless universe? Why is human wellbeing more important than, say, viral wellbeing? A virus just wants to reproduce and thrive - in a purely materialistic framework, how is that any less valid than human flourishing? You'd just be smuggling in values you can't justify.

Using reason to justify morality?

Reason is a TOOL, not a SOURCE. Reason can tell you how to get what you want, but it can't tell you what you SHOULD want. You can't derive an "ought" from an "is" - that's basic philosophy. Science can tell you what WILL happen if you torture a child, but it can't tell you that you SHOULDN'T do it.

Society?

Really? So when the majority of society supported slavery, was that moral? When Nazi Germany decided Jews were subhuman, was that moral? See how quick that falls apart? You can't base objective morality on subjective human opinions. That's just moral relativism with extra steps.

Well, if we can't base our morality on ANY of this, how can we say

- "The Holocaust was objectively wrong"
- "Human rights are universal"
- "We should fight against injustice"

when these, in a purely godless universe, are just meaningless?

They're just preferences, like preferring chocolate over vanilla.

The Holocaust wasn't "wrong". It was just atoms moving around.
Human rights aren't "universal". They're just made up concepts.
Injustice isn't "real". It's just stuff happening that you don't like.

You want to know what's really telling?
The fact that people who believe God doesn't exist live like objective morality exists. They get genuinely angry at injustice. They fight for human rights. They condemn evil. They're living in direct contradiction to their worldview.

The only way to ground objective morality is in a transcendent source - God.
Oh, but it's not God? Then, we're just left with:

1. Arbitrary social conventions
2. Personal preferences
3. Evolutionary programming
4. Chemical reactions in the brain

None of these can provide the universal, objective moral framework that you appeal to when making moral arguments. You're sawing off the branch you're sitting on.

Bro come to my thread in which I tagged u
This thread is already ruined

 

[LTNUser]

Yes I did read. low IQ arguments that already have been repeated on this forum all over again. That’s why I said to @org3cel.RR that he is not gonna have a good and intelligent debate.

but I already told him to come and debate you, so it’s all fine now.

Those were not low IQ

 

[Deleted member 68202]

Those were not low IQ

Ok man.

 

[holy]

Bro come to my thread in which I tagged u
This thread is already ruined

oki

 

[ItsOverLawg]

I don't think there's any need for you to debate about whether or not god exists
It's individual

 

[LTNUser]

I don't think there's any need for you to debate about whether or not god exists
It's individual

I just want to know why people believe that God exists

 

[LTNUser]

@holy where are u gone??

 

[ItsOverLawg]

I just want to know why people believe that God exists

I mean
If you were to put it in my perspective
There's no concrete absolute evidence that God ultimately exists. I'm a believer myself but not that firm. I believe in the concept of "what goes around comes around" that the life you lead is simply the product of your own karma

 

[org3cel.RR]

@org3cel.RR
If you need the fear of punishment to be good
It isnt really being good is it

I dont fear punishment I just want to do whats right

 

[org3cel.RR]

Rip @org3cel.RR

Vou ser banido

 

[org3cel.RR]

Bro atleast @org3cel.RR was ready for a debate but then you told him I was 14 and Hindu so he did not care,found it an absolute joke and a waste of time and left

My bad lol but if you have any questions lmk

 

[org3cel.RR]

@TechnoBoss pls take actions against the faggots that ruin the thread

I did nothing

 

[Deleted member 68202]

My bad lol but if you have any questions lmk

vai ver a última menção.

 

[org3cel.RR]

because it is man, look at the arguments you just presented. I can tell my bro @org3cel.RR to debate you, if you want.

@org3cel.RR vem caralho representar a verdade da fé católica.

Cheguei porraaaa

 

[LTNUser]

I did nothing

I know that,I did not take your name

 

[org3cel.RR]

I just want to know why people believe that God exists

Because believing in something is a good thing, whitout it you will feel empty inside

 

[Bl0odKn1ght]

God is the necessary precondition for the universes existence, knowledge, logic, reason, morality and several other things.

 

[blackrockjewmanlet]

God doesn't exist you incels

Everything in the world has a cause, but this chain of cause and effect cannot continue infinitely; otherwise, it would lose its meaning. Therefore, there must be a primary principle — eternal, unchanging, and self-existent. This is what we call God.

Everything that exists is born from the One, and the One is the source of all. It has no cause, for it is the cause of all causes.

 

[rory4579]

God doesn't exist you incels

Who created the world then

 

[Deleted member 107111]

nig