Debunking Deca

[halloweed]

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I’m using nandrolone d for my next cycle to increase muscle mass and strength alongside with testosterone e as usual.

 

[übermog]

Cognitive and suppression are in all steroids
Stop using gpt or ill spit in your anus

does anavar also cause cognitive decline?

 

[übermog]

It improves sensitivity to prolactin
Run deca only cycle (test it incase) if your prolactin goes up significantly im the biggest fraud of org and you have the right to insult my ass
I don’t post studies cause its retarded if you want some pm me cause the high iq are mf that steal my work and diss me in the comments and the low iq ones suck their cock and continue harrasing me
I don’t use deca currently but would after 19-20 cause it fuck with your seretonin transmitter in the brain
But deca = best hrt protocol
Uhm for libido not optimal but your dick would still work even better if you were hypogonadol before

nah nigger im honest fucking with roids is stupid, cant you just research kisspeptin 10

 

[20/04/2008]

nah nigger im honest fucking with roids is stupid, cant you just research kisspeptin 10

K

 

[übermog]

does anavar also cause cognitive decline?

??

 

[20/04/2008]

does anavar also cause cognitive decline?

yes and no
depends on the dosages

 

[übermog]

yes and no
depends on the dosages

what would 10mg eod lead to any?

 

[20/04/2008]

what would 10mg eod lead to any?

No

 

[übermog]

No

i would assume that it does lead to cognitive decline but its just barely noticeable

 

[übermog]

you mean dbol
old scholl was primo dbol deca
winstrol pre contest

why did back then nobody lose his hair on winnie

 

[20/04/2008]

why did back then nobody lose his hair on winnie

Cause 4 weeks exposition
And they had high estrogen cause they didn’t use ai

 

[übermog]

Cause 4 weeks exposition
And they had high estrogen cause they didn’t use ai

if i do short cycles sides will be less, funny timing thats what i was researching about just now

 

[übermog]

Cause 4 weeks exposition
And they had high estrogen cause they didn’t use ai

i invited u to a chat with @idkwhattoputhere

 

[IBlameSub3]

Nandrolone literally converts to prolactin. Thats why some people get black milk shit out of there gyno when on deca or tren

 

[20/04/2008]

i invited u to a chat with @idkwhattoputhere

I already talked to him

 

[20/04/2008]

Nandrolone literally converts to prolactin. Thats why some people get black milk shit out of there gyno when on deca or tren

no it doesn’t
It sensitizes the receptors but doesn’t increase it on bloodwork which would give you gyno if your run deca with progesteronic compound because your gonna be super sensitive to prolactin
Tren do increase prolactin

 

[übermog]

I already talked to him

yee but i created a chat with the three of us bby yk

 

[20/04/2008]

ratio is useless

all studies are with fat free mass and not very useful

true but still in studies deca mogs tf out of test without estrogen

 

[20/04/2008]

No I've read it was often done with masteron too

never heard of a golden era bb who used masteron

 

[meathead]

true but still in studies deca mogs tf out of test without estrogen

yea but u can just u 3x the dosages get the same amount of muscle with less side effects

 

[asdvek]

Good thread
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Unfunny and cringe

 

[20/04/2008]

yea but u can just u 3x the dosages get the same amount of muscle with less side effects

no yes i dont know like wtf did yo just i dont know how to respond to this
did you read the study where they used a g of primo on women and they got 0 sides
well run 150 mg of test with 1g of primo

 

[meathead]

no yes i dont know like wtf did yo just i dont know how to respond to this
did you read the study where they used a g of primo on women and they got 0 sides
well run 150 mg of test with 1g of primo

i meant with test

yea primo mogs

 

[5.5psl]

why is a deca base cycle better than testosterone base? Well, for one it brings an alternative to a hormone replacement base in a steroid cycle. As it has been used for androgen deficiency studies in males. And has been used as such solo without testosterone in HIV aids males for this very purpose. Why is deca used over test? Well because simply it provided better benefits, muscle growth, fewer side effects and reports of better quality of life.

(Remember every drug that came after test was meant to have less side effects and more anabolic effects exept some exeptions fluoxymesterone was made before testosterone and equipose and trenbolone were made for animal not humans, and superdrol and trestolone dhb are new drugs so they don’t count)

Majority of guys fear anabolics due to the side effects such as hair loss, gynecomastia, water retention, acne, acne scars and even the emotional sides. So they search for safer alternatives a lot of the times which usually doesn’t end up bringing the results either.

Deca, simply put from real-world results such as from bodybuilders from the 60s to late 80s, Mike menzter, Robby Robinson, Danny padilla and countless more many great names, As well from studies shows us how little the sides from it truly are in regards to the aforementioned sides above. Hair loss, Gynecomastia, Acne you just did not see it back then.

Hair loss? Science wise near impossible unless very high doses. Real-world results wise? I have seen guys regrow hair on reedit after switching from test to deca .



Gynecomastia? Science-wise gynecomastia is due to an off androgen to estrogen ratio. And deca science wise simply put is always in a very favorable ratio. Real-world results wise? I’ve never seen it happened even with guys that were prone to gyno off less than 100mg of testosterone yet could use again multiple grams of deca with ZERO estrogenic symptoms. The only times I have seen this happened was with guys using shady sources where I got them to test their product and lab work to reveal they had testosterone not deca in their product. Which surprisingly happens i guess so disclaimer if you can afford it always test your shit especially drugs that are expensive.



Acne? Real-world results and science wise we just do not see it happen. Nothing more to be said here.

Water retention? A study showed there was no fluid increase on this drug and bodybuilders in the 60s to late 80s used this drug as a contest prep drug as well, and so have my followers and clients. It is a very lean drug and many would compare it to a weaker tren. Dr. Robert Kerr who treated many bodybuilders in 70s 80s also reports this to be a dry drug with no water retention and is a great contest prep drug.

Deca shuts your testosterone down? Of course it does, all steroids do. What matters is we replace this drug with an androgen that can support our male functions. Dianabol, Deca (nandrolone), Equipoise all fit that bill. The big reason being here is they are all androgens that also convert to estrogen. Which is needed for androgens to even work on the androgen receptor period. This is why DHT drugs will not work as a base. Studies show without estrogen DHT drugs solo can make animals very timid and loss of sex drive, gain body fat and insulin resistance and even digestion goes down the drain due to estrogen being needed for pancreatic function on enzymes for digestion.

Prolactin? Well, zero studies have ever shown deca to ever raise prolactin, not a single one ever. And the only study showing us this shows it lowered prolactin compared to testosterone raising it. So deca lowers prolactin.

Libido loss? Never been heard of by any old pro bodybuilder when this was a staple as a base without testosterone, nor has a single report ever been recorded by the world health organization either unlike testosterone. The issue here is when testosterone use became popular and added to the mix. Deca simply put will make the side effect galore drug testosterone even worse. Helping aromatization of testosterone to estrogen and receptor sensitivity. Making testosterone an even worse drug leading to more sides such as libido loss. Again not a single study on deca used solo has ever reported it causing any sort of libido loss. And it has been used many times solo.

Conclusion. Why use testosterone, why when so many get sides off even 100mg of testosterone. Gynecomastia, bloating, acne, hair loss, for what? It isn’t needed to replace male function, seminal vessel health, prostate health, etc. Deca can do this and better at it for what we are doing here. We are not using anabolics for just a replacement effect. And if you are, then this topic isn’t for you and no need to consider anything but your TRT. When a bodybuilder or someone looking for an anabolic effect we are looking at using something that is above normal ranges for a purpose. And that purpose mainly is anabolism. Go and run 500mg of testosterone and your estrogen goes x5 the normal range. And prolactin all also goes up. Leading to all of our lovely sides that we now need to run Anti Aromatize drugs at high doses, which worsen heart, bone health and cause hair loss by themselves. Yet when we go and run 500mg of an anabolic drug like deca, we now have the effect we want, a high dose of anabolism. Yet our secondary hormone profiles are at a normal dose range similar to that using a TRT dose base of testosterone.

Can one run a test base say 100mg with an anabolic like deca as your main drug, such as 100mg testosterone with 500mg plus of deca? Sure. But I am sure many of you have read online and have experienced for yourself, countless users get side effects off even just 100mg of testosterone. Then this might not be the option for you when deca can replace all of your needs without the side effects.

simply put there is no need for testosterone or testosterone at high doses.

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Wtf ? You must be joking
Deca is the worst of all
Libido loss , gyno , deca dick , water retention , feeling depressed and shit , shutdown forever if you use nandrolone then be prepared to blast and cruise as pct is useless in such cases
No one today in the modern bodybuilding world uses deca and if they do that's cuz they have lost their last braincels on it as researches have proven that nandrolones degrade your iq far far worse than test.
Pls stay away from deca , tren and such shit I'll say that even tren is better than deca it's really shit .

 

[20/04/2008]

Wtf ? You must be joking
Deca is the worst of all
Libido loss , gyno , deca dick , water retention , feeling depressed and shit , shutdown forever if you use nandrolone then be prepared to blast and cruise as pct is useless in such cases
No one today in the modern bodybuilding world uses deca and if they do that's cuz they have lost their last braincels on it as researches have proven that nandrolones degrade your iq far far worse than test.
Pls stay away from deca , tren and such shit I'll say that even tren is better than deca it's really shit .

currently on 700 npp with 300 eq 0 sides
i had gyno before from my natty hormones
i could get gyno from 100 test
yet im on 700 npp 0 gyno
my libido is not as high as when i was on test but i could perform 4x no probs
i feel less fluid on deca than test
the only downside is i dont feel as hyped ups when i wason tes like i lost that drive but other thab that deca mogs
nigg i tried other steroids i can tell deca as hrt mogs