Debunking the myth of Aisha being 9 (Muslims GTFIH)

[KeepCopingLads]

Nature is god.

ah yes, lets worship something that has been created

Kissing the black rock? Classic pagan ritual, praying to Baal. All of it is not original.

intention you ignorant fuck


anyways, im done on debating people cus niggas are too close minded

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

muhammed was just a rebel imo

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high t, rebelled against the pagan religio nat the time, and christianity.

He was a pagan himself. Where did the kissing of the black rock come from?

 

[Ghoulish]

The bible is the true word. Even in other translations the original message is only changed by old or new english. The fact you believe in a god is pathetic.

“The bible is the true word”

Bible was narrated by actual illiterate peasants for a century who just said “Jesus said smth like this based on what I heard from some who heard this from someone” x50

Also according to the Old Testament you can rape little girls since god commands it to Moses and god is most just. Get off this thread christcuck

 

[FiendFiend]

He was a pagan himself. Where did the kissing of the black rock come from?

ok but if he was pagan thats high t too.

 

[Ghoulish]

Islam is the very BLOOD of Jews, where do you think half of your traditions came from? Kissing the black rock? Classic pagan ritual, praying to Baal. All of it is not original.

Lmfaoooo same type of shit as some nigga saying Christian’s worship Roman execution methods and require human sacrifices to please god and get forgives.

Also where u got Baal from?

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

ah yes, lets worship something that has been created

intention you ignorant fuck


anyways, im done on debating people cus niggas are too close minded

Says the muslim.

“The bible is the true word”

Bible was narrated by actual illiterate peasants for a century who just said “Jesus said smth like this based on what I heard from some who heard this from someone” x50

Also according to the Old Testament you can rape little girls since god commands it to Moses and god is most just. Get off this thread christcuck

Pipe down Amalek. Look at any post of mine? Where do you even think to have the thought that I believe in a god? Either way the Jews will have their way with the middle east, they are first done with the Gaza lot, then you are next.

 

[Ghoulish]

ok but if he was pagan thats high t too.

He wasn’t lmao, this nigga is retarded, hes a pagan but worships one abrahamic god? Destroys the idols but Yh he worships them sure

 

[FiendFiend]

ah yes, lets worship something that has been created

yes worship beautiful creation. We cant prove a God exists out there if he does we are worshipping the beautiful things hes given us, unless theres a definitive way of knowing he exists or he doesnt till then we are going to worship "his creation" or what to us is just beautiful and natural and gives us life. i.e the sun and nature.

 

[KeepCopingLads]

Says the muslim.

again with the ignorance

cage

 

[FiendFiend]

yes worship beautiful creation. We cant prove a God exists out there if he does we are worshipping the beautiful things hes given us, unless theres a definitive way of knowing he exists or he doesnt till then we are going to worship "his creation" or what to us is just beautiful and natural and gives us life. i.e the sun and nature.

im ngl now im reading this , this is how probably the roman pagans felt then they saw jesus and he revealed himself as god tbf christians may have a point.

 

[KeepCopingLads]

gives us life. i.e the sun and nature.

im going to be ignoring future notis from this thread

 

[Ghoulish]

Pipe down Amalek. Look at any post of mine? Where do you even think to have the thought that I believe in a god? Either way the Jews will have their way with the middle east, they are first done with the Gaza lot, then you are next.

-cant debunk my posts so says “the Jews will have their wha with you”

Shut the fuck you little Hungarian cuck. Im not MENA and youre people are literal rape babies by @pashanimair turkish ancestors who fucked Hungarian women after conquering them while the husbands sat and watched.

 

[FiendFiend]

He wasn’t lmao, this nigga is retarded, hes a pagan but worships one abrahamic god? Destroys the idols but Yh he worships them sure

there is some high t elements of paganism and islam and christianity thats why they are decent faiths.

Your faith is a fag religion that says i cant eat pigs? why not nigger. man made faggot rule. Atleast the christian tell me i can eat swine, will be forgiven no matter what i do

 

[Ghoulish]

You have vril as pfp and you are muslim
Who is the retard here

You think all Muslims are fucking Saudis nigga?

 

[got.daim]

your righ

I keep seeing it all the time here, and I don’t know how this hasn’t been debunked on this forum yet given how comically broken it is. You guys need to stop getting information off of muslim apologetics on YouTube as no respectable non-schizo traditionalist scholar upholds this narrative (if they even bothered to research it) given it’s MANY great flaws. This will be a wall of text, but read the entire thing if you are misinformed. It’s better to not be ignorant in the face of all this hate, you would want the same to be done to you if you were being falsely accused.

firstly, it’s a Hadith not a quranic verse, Hadith were originally circulated via oral transmission for 200 years. The hadith is narrated by Hisham ibn ‘Urwah, from his father, from Aisha. The chain for the hadith is graded hasan, which is somewhat reliable. Not concrete. But this isn’t the point of mine.

the guy who narrated it, Hisham ibn urwa, narrated this verse when he was 71 in Iraq. Around the same time, he was also diagnosed with memory problems, and he was said to have NEVER narrated this verse prior to this. None of his past students ever mentioned this verse. But this isn’t the point either, this just shows that the verse is volatile. It’s extremely suspicious.

Here is the verse

”that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.”

this brings the largest problem with this verse. The idea of 6 years old being sufficient for marriage is completely against quranic teachings of the age of consent, which highlights that mental maturity (described as being able to handle ownership of property and rational thought) , physical maturity (post pubescent) and clear consent Is extremely important and the baseline.

so, according to the Quran, the marriage is completely impermissible since Aisha would be a child at 6. Definitely not mature, mentally or physically. And according to ALL scholars, quranic text is taken over ANY other scripture.

Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya (d. 751 AH), a renowned Hanbali scholar, wrote in I'lam al-Muwaqqi'in:

"The Sunnah does not contradict the sound, clear Quran. If a hadith is found to be in contradiction, then efforts must be made to reconcile them. If reconciliation is impossible, then the Quran is given precedence, and the hadith is rejected... for the Quran is the foundation, and the Sunnah is the building."

this is only the first problem with this Hadith. The second problem is that it goes against many historical accounts of the events that took place in Islamic history, which are deemed much more reliable than a Hadith graded Hasan. For example, Aisha is said to have taken an active role in the battles of Uhud and the battle of badr. The battle of badr took place before her marriage was consummated, putting her age during the battle as 8-8 years old. And her age at uhud at 10.

now this bring a problem, how the hell would a literal child (who must have been deemed an adult to even take part in these battles as children were not allowed) be able to actively drag wounded soldiers off battlefields? Never seen a 9 year old able to pull a 70kg man across an entire battlefield hundreds of times over (the battle was a route, the location to treat them was constantly changing, meaning she would have had to help carry them.) This is why many scholars and historians heavily doubt the authenticity of this hadith.

Then, you have the problem of her prior engagement. Aisha was due to be married to another man (Mutʿim ibn ʿAdiyy) before muhammad (peace be upon him) however, this would have put her age at 3 YEARS OLD when she was engaged. This brings ANOTHER problem as child marriages were completely outlawed in post Islamic Arabia, and the man would have been punished for this. However, he is described as an honourable man (there are many details on his life.)

Now here’s the fourth major issue with this Hadith. It goes against other accounts aswell. Aishas sister, asma is narrated to have been 27 during aishas marriage, and Aisha to be 10 years younger putting aishas age at a more reliable, islamically, historically, rationally and culturally, at 17 years old. The account of asmas age is more reliable than the Hadith aswell, given it is a well recorded historical fact, rather than something narrated by some old guy with Alzheimer’s. The age hadith is a solitary report (khabar al-wahid) with a specific criticism of its narrator. The evidence from Asma's age and the battles is based on well-established history (almost mutawatir in historical terms). In Islamic jurisprudence, stronger evidence outweighs weaker evidence.

so, in conclusion, due to the Hadith being not only completely useless to most Muslims while it was circulating orally for centuries as it has no religious value (why would bedouin arabs care about how old some girl was) making it prone to errors in transmission, it is also completely against the quranic teachings, against many historical evidences, and against logic itself. It is also narrated by an old man with memory issues.

and if anyone is to bring the verse about Aisha playing with dolls, there are also MANY refutations for that Hadith too. Firstly, Aisha was a scholar by the time that Hadith was said to have taken place. A woman like Aisha playing with dolls, then going out to debate idol worshippers about religion and save lives in extremely devastating battles?

secondly, the verse describes her playing with ”dolls” which is also problematic, since dolls fall under idols, which are completely forbidden in households and Aisha would NOT been allowed to play with dolls. The prophet wouldn’t have made exceptions, as this would be hypocritical and would have been brought up. Along with these two points, the word “dolls” in Arabic (لَعِبٌ - La'ib**)** can also mean mean "playthings" or "amusement." It may not refer to literal child's dolls but perhaps to decorative figurines or cherished keepsakes, which adult woman did own as a symbol of wealth In pre-Islamic Arabia. Such objects were common.

never believe everything you see online, always check it With a reliable source.

Spoiler: Tagging Muslims

@Gengar @Old Büll @KeepCopingLads @Hide @SecularIslamist @pashtunnigga1 @Ralix @SyrianPsycho @afghanincel

he married her she was 6 btw

 

[FiendFiend]

im going to be ignoring future notis from this thread

jesus orb is such an asymmetrical slavshit human how did people rate him so high?

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Lmfaoooo same type of shit as some nigga saying Christian’s worship Roman execution methods and require human sacrifices to please god and get forgives.

Also where u got Baal from?

It is the very word they use to refer to a superior.

He wasn’t lmao, this nigga is retarded, hes a pagan but worships one abrahamic god? Destroys the idols but Yh he worships them sure

I worship nothing, I only stand by just and pure eugenics. Not morals, not care, not belief or anything beyond ones own will.

yes worship beautiful creation. We cant prove a God exists out there if he does we are worshipping the beautiful things hes given us, unless theres a definitive way of knowing he exists or he doesnt till then we are going to worship "his creation" or what to us is just beautiful and natural and gives us life. i.e the sun and nature.

Tell me, where in a lab does that even matter? Where on a paper about the masses does that even matter? Barely, all it takes is one shift kick from fate for you to be claimed by death, to be nothing but a remembered thought. Tell me, where is your after life?

-cant debunk my posts so says “the Jews will have their wha with you”

Shut the fuck you little Hungarian cuck. Im not MENA and youre people are literal rape babies by @pashanimair turkish ancestors who fucked Hungarian women after conquering them while the husbands sat and watched.

What is wrong goyim? Do you fear the Jew? Are you going to blame the Jew again? To cry more?

 

[FiendFiend]

your righ

he married her she was 6 btw

problem?

 

[Ghoulish]

Your faith is a fag religion that says i cant eat pigs? why not nigger. man made faggot rule. Atleast the christian tell me i can eat swine, will be forgiven no matter what i do

Christianity is also the reason Christian foids fuck randoms then pray for forgiveness and repeat x100.

 

[shiezen]

I keep seeing it all the time here, and I don’t know how this hasn’t been debunked on this forum yet given how comically broken it is. You guys need to stop getting information off of muslim apologetics on YouTube as no respectable non-schizo traditionalist scholar upholds this narrative (if they even bothered to research it) given it’s MANY great flaws. This will be a wall of text, but read the entire thing if you are misinformed. It’s better to not be ignorant in the face of all this hate, you would want the same to be done to you if you were being falsely accused.

firstly, it’s a Hadith not a quranic verse, Hadith were originally circulated via oral transmission for 200 years. The hadith is narrated by Hisham ibn ‘Urwah, from his father, from Aisha. The chain for the hadith is graded hasan, which is somewhat reliable. Not concrete. But this isn’t the point of mine.

the guy who narrated it, Hisham ibn urwa, narrated this verse when he was 71 in Iraq. Around the same time, he was also diagnosed with memory problems, and he was said to have NEVER narrated this verse prior to this. None of his past students ever mentioned this verse. But this isn’t the point either, this just shows that the verse is volatile. It’s extremely suspicious.

Here is the verse

”that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.”

this brings the largest problem with this verse. The idea of 6 years old being sufficient for marriage is completely against quranic teachings of the age of consent, which highlights that mental maturity (described as being able to handle ownership of property and rational thought) , physical maturity (post pubescent) and clear consent Is extremely important and the baseline.

so, according to the Quran, the marriage is completely impermissible since Aisha would be a child at 6. Definitely not mature, mentally or physically. And according to ALL scholars, quranic text is taken over ANY other scripture.

Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya (d. 751 AH), a renowned Hanbali scholar, wrote in I'lam al-Muwaqqi'in:

"The Sunnah does not contradict the sound, clear Quran. If a hadith is found to be in contradiction, then efforts must be made to reconcile them. If reconciliation is impossible, then the Quran is given precedence, and the hadith is rejected... for the Quran is the foundation, and the Sunnah is the building."

this is only the first problem with this Hadith. The second problem is that it goes against many historical accounts of the events that took place in Islamic history, which are deemed much more reliable than a Hadith graded Hasan. For example, Aisha is said to have taken an active role in the battles of Uhud and the battle of badr. The battle of badr took place before her marriage was consummated, putting her age during the battle as 8-8 years old. And her age at uhud at 10.

now this bring a problem, how the hell would a literal child (who must have been deemed an adult to even take part in these battles as children were not allowed) be able to actively drag wounded soldiers off battlefields? Never seen a 9 year old able to pull a 70kg man across an entire battlefield hundreds of times over (the battle was a route, the location to treat them was constantly changing, meaning she would have had to help carry them.) This is why many scholars and historians heavily doubt the authenticity of this hadith.

Then, you have the problem of her prior engagement. Aisha was due to be married to another man (Mutʿim ibn ʿAdiyy) before muhammad (peace be upon him) however, this would have put her age at 3 YEARS OLD when she was engaged. This brings ANOTHER problem as child marriages were completely outlawed in post Islamic Arabia, and the man would have been punished for this. However, he is described as an honourable man (there are many details on his life.)

Now here’s the fourth major issue with this Hadith. It goes against other accounts aswell. Aishas sister, asma is narrated to have been 27 during aishas marriage, and Aisha to be 10 years younger putting aishas age at a more reliable, islamically, historically, rationally and culturally, at 17 years old. The account of asmas age is more reliable than the Hadith aswell, given it is a well recorded historical fact, rather than something narrated by some old guy with Alzheimer’s. The age hadith is a solitary report (khabar al-wahid) with a specific criticism of its narrator. The evidence from Asma's age and the battles is based on well-established history (almost mutawatir in historical terms). In Islamic jurisprudence, stronger evidence outweighs weaker evidence.

so, in conclusion, due to the Hadith being not only completely useless to most Muslims while it was circulating orally for centuries as it has no religious value (why would bedouin arabs care about how old some girl was) making it prone to errors in transmission, it is also completely against the quranic teachings, against many historical evidences, and against logic itself. It is also narrated by an old man with memory issues.

and if anyone is to bring the verse about Aisha playing with dolls, there are also MANY refutations for that Hadith too. Firstly, Aisha was a scholar by the time that Hadith was said to have taken place. A woman like Aisha playing with dolls, then going out to debate idol worshippers about religion and save lives in extremely devastating battles?

secondly, the verse describes her playing with ”dolls” which is also problematic, since dolls fall under idols, which are completely forbidden in households and Aisha would NOT been allowed to play with dolls. The prophet wouldn’t have made exceptions, as this would be hypocritical and would have been brought up. Along with these two points, the word “dolls” in Arabic (لَعِبٌ - La'ib**)** can also mean mean "playthings" or "amusement." It may not refer to literal child's dolls but perhaps to decorative figurines or cherished keepsakes, which adult woman did own as a symbol of wealth In pre-Islamic Arabia. Such objects were common.

never believe everything you see online, always check it With a reliable source.

Spoiler: Tagging Muslims

@Gengar @Old Büll @KeepCopingLads @Hide @SecularIslamist @pashtunnigga1 @Ralix @SyrianPsycho @afghanincel

all this and you still have yakub on your pfp XD

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

-cant debunk my posts so says “the Jews will have their wha with you”

Shut the fuck you little Hungarian cuck. Im not MENA and youre people are literal rape babies by @pashanimair turkish ancestors who fucked Hungarian women after conquering them while the husbands sat and watched.

Even then goyim, most Magyars were already mixed by the times we moved beside the Germanics and Slavics. Long before the Turkish arrived, even by then they only killed us. We never mixed, the DNA/Haplotests would atest to this today if that were the case.

Even then, that is why Arabs/Muslims lose always. You people cannot think beyond raging like toddlers, you are the very tool of the Jew. Nothing but an eternal cash cow, you have lost each war and you will continue to do so after wards.

 

[Ghoulish]

all this and you still have yakub on your pfp XD

It’s ksi as yakub

 

[shiezen]

It’s ksi as yakub

still represents paganism

 

[Ghoulish]

Even then goyim, most Magyars were already mixed by the times we moved beside the Germanics and Slavics. Long before the Turkish arrived, even by then they only killed us. We never mixed, the DNA/Haplotests would atest to this today if that were the case

Nah nigga they PLOWED ur foids. “We never mixed broooo “

Would lowkey ascend you tho, Turks mog hungarianiggers

 

[Mitläufer]

You think all Muslims are fucking Saudis nigga?

Not bcs of nationality bcs of the meaning of vril nigger
And second of all let alone if you believe god exist you are retarded

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Nah nigga they PLOWED ur foids. “We never mixed broooo “

Would lowkey ascend you tho, Turks mog hungarianiggers

Someone is getting rather upset over such a simple worthless convo. Tell me, how does it feel consulting god after the MTB rejected you for the 3rd time?

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Not bcs of nationality bcs of the meaning of vril nigger
And second of all let alone if you believe god exist you are retarded

@Gaygymmaxx Watch this, I am going to make every mussie clittycel leak

 

[FiendFiend]

It is the very word they use to refer to a superior.

I worship nothing, I only stand by just and pure eugenics. Not morals, not care, not belief or anything beyond ones own will.

Tell me, where in a lab does that even matter? Where on a paper about the masses does that even matter? Barely, all it takes is one shift kick from fate for you to be claimed by death, to be nothing but a remembered thought. Tell me, where is your after life?

What is wrong goyim? Do you fear the Jew? Are you going to blame the Jew again? To cry more?

The after life is in heofon. Where do u think the term heaven comes from, where do u think the days of the week come from, the months? WAES HAEL. The Europeans built a beautiful culture and christianity is a mere page in it. When the protestants split off it was the germanic soul distatching itself from mediterranian rule for so long. It was a day of freedom.

I realise religion is manmade, but it shows the struggles of a people, and thats why I dont hate christianity etc. if u wanna believe in it sure but just dont impose some centralized power so we have to follow some mediterranian fag in the vatican if im not med. Let us have our own bishops

 

[Ghoulish]

Someone is getting rather upset over such a simple worthless convo. Tell me, how does it feel consulting god after the MTB rejected you for the 3rd time

Jfl if you think im an incel of ur tier, especially your looks tier given ur Hungarian/mongaloid

 

[Ghoulish]

am going to make every mussie clittycel leak

 

[Ghoulish]

they marry 8 year olds in saudi?

No cuz mental maturity is necessary. What 8 year old is able to take care of property nigga

 

[FiendFiend]

No cuz mental maturity is necessary. What 8 year old is able to take care of property nigga

i mean if they can. hypotethcially

 

[FiendFiend]

The only clitty that was leaking was ur Hungarian foids after osman pasha won the battle of mohacs

jesus bro that was a hard read yikes

 

[Ghoulish]

Even then, that is why Arabs/Muslims lose always. You people cannot think beyond raging like toddlers, you are the very tool of the Jew. Nothing but an eternal cash cow, you have lost each war and you will continue to do so after wards

“Lost each war” is that why the ottomans ruled over ur ancestors?

A Hungarian talking shit about Muslims is hilarious, as bad as a Native American talking shit to Europeans (western euros not ur mongaloid ass)

 

[Ghoulish]

jesus bro that was a hard read yikes

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Didnt you post about ur post nut clarity here a few hours ago?

 

[Im sorry mother]

dude if aisha was 9 that would make me convert to islam but now nvm. fucking pussy faith cant even admit whats only NAATURAL

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LMAO JFL

 

[FiendFiend]

Didnt you post about ur post nut clarity here a few hours ago?

no

 

[PermaBluePilled]

You have vril as pfp and you are muslim
Who is the retard here

Thats a very one dimensional way of thinking

 

[FiendFiend]

I keep seeing it all the time here, and I don’t know how this hasn’t been debunked on this forum yet given how comically broken it is. You guys need to stop getting information off of muslim apologetics on YouTube as no respectable non-schizo traditionalist scholar upholds this narrative (if they even bothered to research it) given it’s MANY great flaws. This will be a wall of text, but read the entire thing if you are misinformed. It’s better to not be ignorant in the face of all this hate, you would want the same to be done to you if you were being falsely accused.

firstly, it’s a Hadith not a quranic verse, Hadith were originally circulated via oral transmission for 200 years. The hadith is narrated by Hisham ibn ‘Urwah, from his father, from Aisha. The chain for the hadith is graded hasan, which is somewhat reliable. Not concrete. But this isn’t the point of mine.

the guy who narrated it, Hisham ibn urwa, narrated this verse when he was 71 in Iraq. Around the same time, he was also diagnosed with memory problems, and he was said to have NEVER narrated this verse prior to this. None of his past students ever mentioned this verse. But this isn’t the point either, this just shows that the verse is volatile. It’s extremely suspicious.

Here is the verse

”that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old.”

this brings the largest problem with this verse. The idea of 6 years old being sufficient for marriage is completely against quranic teachings of the age of consent, which highlights that mental maturity (described as being able to handle ownership of property and rational thought) , physical maturity (post pubescent) and clear consent Is extremely important and the baseline.

so, according to the Quran, the marriage is completely impermissible since Aisha would be a child at 6. Definitely not mature, mentally or physically. And according to ALL scholars, quranic text is taken over ANY other scripture.

Ibn Qayyim al-Jawziyya (d. 751 AH), a renowned Hanbali scholar, wrote in I'lam al-Muwaqqi'in:

"The Sunnah does not contradict the sound, clear Quran. If a hadith is found to be in contradiction, then efforts must be made to reconcile them. If reconciliation is impossible, then the Quran is given precedence, and the hadith is rejected... for the Quran is the foundation, and the Sunnah is the building."

this is only the first problem with this Hadith. The second problem is that it goes against many historical accounts of the events that took place in Islamic history, which are deemed much more reliable than a Hadith graded Hasan. For example, Aisha is said to have taken an active role in the battles of Uhud and the battle of badr. The battle of badr took place before her marriage was consummated, putting her age during the battle as 8-8 years old. And her age at uhud at 10.

now this bring a problem, how the hell would a literal child (who must have been deemed an adult to even take part in these battles as children were not allowed) be able to actively drag wounded soldiers off battlefields? Never seen a 9 year old able to pull a 70kg man across an entire battlefield hundreds of times over (the battle was a route, the location to treat them was constantly changing, meaning she would have had to help carry them.) This is why many scholars and historians heavily doubt the authenticity of this hadith.

Then, you have the problem of her prior engagement. Aisha was due to be married to another man (Mutʿim ibn ʿAdiyy) before muhammad (peace be upon him) however, this would have put her age at 3 YEARS OLD when she was engaged. This brings ANOTHER problem as child marriages were completely outlawed in post Islamic Arabia, and the man would have been punished for this. However, he is described as an honourable man (there are many details on his life.)

Now here’s the fourth major issue with this Hadith. It goes against other accounts aswell. Aishas sister, asma is narrated to have been 27 during aishas marriage, and Aisha to be 10 years younger putting aishas age at a more reliable, islamically, historically, rationally and culturally, at 17 years old. The account of asmas age is more reliable than the Hadith aswell, given it is a well recorded historical fact, rather than something narrated by some old guy with Alzheimer’s. The age hadith is a solitary report (khabar al-wahid) with a specific criticism of its narrator. The evidence from Asma's age and the battles is based on well-established history (almost mutawatir in historical terms). In Islamic jurisprudence, stronger evidence outweighs weaker evidence.

so, in conclusion, due to the Hadith being not only completely useless to most Muslims while it was circulating orally for centuries as it has no religious value (why would bedouin arabs care about how old some girl was) making it prone to errors in transmission, it is also completely against the quranic teachings, against many historical evidences, and against logic itself. It is also narrated by an old man with memory issues.

and if anyone is to bring the verse about Aisha playing with dolls, there are also MANY refutations for that Hadith too. Firstly, Aisha was a scholar by the time that Hadith was said to have taken place. A woman like Aisha playing with dolls, then going out to debate idol worshippers about religion and save lives in extremely devastating battles?

secondly, the verse describes her playing with ”dolls” which is also problematic, since dolls fall under idols, which are completely forbidden in households and Aisha would NOT been allowed to play with dolls. The prophet wouldn’t have made exceptions, as this would be hypocritical and would have been brought up. Along with these two points, the word “dolls” in Arabic (لَعِبٌ - La'ib**)** can also mean mean "playthings" or "amusement." It may not refer to literal child's dolls but perhaps to decorative figurines or cherished keepsakes, which adult woman did own as a symbol of wealth In pre-Islamic Arabia. Such objects were common.

never believe everything you see online, always check it With a reliable source.

Spoiler: Tagging Muslims

@Gengar @Old Büll @KeepCopingLads @Hide @SecularIslamist @pashtunnigga1 @Ralix @SyrianPsycho @afghanincel

this is genually how u know both of these religions are so fucking cucked when they cant accept their natural urges and what they naturally like fucking caging

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

“Lost each war” is that why the ottomans ruled over ur ancestors?

A Hungarian talking shit about Muslims is hilarious, as bad as a Native American talking shit to Europeans (western euros not ur mongaloid ass)

We still won in the end against awful odds. Look at now, we are much more successful and stable than most of the middle east.
Pity the images did not load, but once my internet as gotten a bit more stable, I will make sure to run you and the rest of the lot your ilk through the dirt.

Remember, the blackpill collects all. Even the ones who think themselves to be invincible of it.

 

[FiendFiend]

We still won in the end against awful odds. Look at now, we are much more successful and stable than most of the middle east.

ur attributing it to christianity or something as if there wasnt people from all denoms who united to kick out the shit skins from invading europe.

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

ur attributing it to christianity or something as if there wasnt people from all denoms who united to kick out the shit skins from invading europe.

We were one of the most powerful kingdoms during that time. That is why our kind got genocided, too much of a threat to keep alive. Or at least complete.

 

[unstable]

He was described as being more beautiful than the moon by his own enemies btw. He was a chadlite minimum.

aren't you guys them undermining the legitimacy of quran by discrediting its own verses

 

[Ghoulish]

We still won in the end against awful odds. Look at now, we are much more successful and stable than most of the middle east.

“awful odds” all of Europe against ottomans 50 different times

saudi and the other Arabian countries other than Yemen life mog ur shithole to Kerala and back. And turkey also is much better than ur shithole (same niggas who cucked your people)

 

[PermaBluePilled]

@Ghoulish yo I just made a good thread debunking conspiracies about 9 11 but it's awaiting approval why is that?

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Jfl if you think im an incel of ur tier, especially your looks tier given ur Hungarian/mongaloid

People have seen my face before here. You would surely upset how incorrect you are.

“awful odds” all of Europe against ottomans 50 different times

saudi and the other Arabian countries other than Yemen life mog ur shithole to Kerala and back. And turkey also is much better than ur shithole (same niggas who cucked your people)

Yes, a random no body desert with no history beyond being a Persian or Jewish footnote.

 

[Ghoulish]

aren't you guys them undermining the legitimacy of quran by discrediting its own verses

Which one is a quranic verse? The entire thing is that the Hadith goes against the Quran. Have you not read it? The thing about Aisha being 6 is a Hadith narrated by an old guy with Alzheimer’s, not in the Quran. In fact it goes against it, as minimum requirements are mental and physical maturity

 

[Ghoulish]

People have seen my face before here. You would surely upset how incorrect you are.

Hungarians are capped at high ltn btw

Yes, a random no body desert with no history beyond being a Persian or Jewish footnote.

“Random no body desert” that conquered the Persian empire, a large chunk of the known world at the time, and pushed into southern France and India with an ill supplied army.

x100000 times more than fucking Hungary nigga lmfaooo

 

[unstable]

Which one is a quranic verse? The entire thing is that the Hadith goes against the Quran. Have you not read it? The thing about Aisha being 6 is a Hadith narrated by an old guy with Alzheimer’s, not in the Quran. In fact it goes against it, as minimum requirements are mental and physical maturity

so that means quran contradicts itself i am just tryin to understaan

 

[InanimatePragmatist]

Hungarians are capped at high ltn btw


“Random no body desert” that conquered the Persian empire, a large chunk of the known world at the time, and pushed into southern France and India with an ill supplied army.

x100000 times more than fucking Hungary nigga lmfaooo

You are bringing up worthless forgotten history from hundreds of years ago.
Ah yes, Magyars are capped at LTN? Yes, the Germanic Slavics. So you wish to call Europe LTN?

I wonder, why do you have a white man as your AVI?