Debunking the unrealistic height standards

[LVZZO]

Yes... height is a halo but lets stop acting like if you are average height it's over.

Height follows a normal distribution with a bell curve, meaning that most people are around average, meaning it's normal and not a looksmin like some retards make it seem, it's just neutral.

Because average is more or less the same as the median height it means that 50% of guys will be taller than you but it also means that:

• 38,2% of guys will be either 0-2 inches (~5cm) shorter or taller than you
• 68% of guys will be either 0-4 inches (~10cm) shorter or taller than you
• 32% of guys will height mog you and you will height mog 32% of guys (>4inch/10cm difference)

Average/median height also varies greatly from country to country, meaning what is considered short or tall also varies.
Even in Germany 6'2 or 188cm should be around top 20% in height (18-20yo in 2021), in other countries it's like top 10% or less.

You can check the height stats for your country below

Average human height by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Regarding the stats for the female height,
The anecdotal reports of women towering over you if you are around average height are complete BS.

• If you are average in your country, only about 3% of girls or 1 in 33 will be taller than you
• Even you if you are 5'5 or 165,1cm, in most western countries it's like bottom 5%, you are still taller than >50% of girls

The average male/female height ratio ranges from like 1.04 to 1.11, the most normal being 1.08
This happens for a reason, odds are you are still a match for every girl within that height range.

• Taking the last example, if you are 5'5 or 165,1cm your partner would have to be:
  • 1.04 ratio: 5'2.9 or 161,1cm or smaller (~45% of girls)
  • 1.08 ratio: 5'0.2 or 152,8cm or smaller (~5% of girls)

Spoiler: TLDR

Even If you are bottom 5% in height, you can still be a match for 45% of girls

 

[hardestmfintheroom]

under 6´=incel

 

[User28823]

life begins at 6'5

 

[NotAMogger]

 

[LVZZO]

Not even 30 seconds in and you guys already started with the coping accusations

 

[kanderior]

No man the studies were done by coping manlet scientists/Jews, average male zoomer is 6'3 and I get brutally mogged by women at 6'1 believe me bro. My black pilled body dysmorphic ramblings have more validity than actual studies based on thousands of people.

 

[m0ss26]

i feel like a child at 5'10 with shoes so i just cope with face physique and fighting

 

[LVZZO]

brutally mogged by women

High heel bitches don't count

 

[kanderior]

Not even 30 seconds in and you guys already started coping

I never got this. Why do guys want to convince themselves that the required height to get women is so high? I get a manlet trying to cope by saying that being short isn't so bad or downplaying the importance of height and performing mental gymnastics with the definition of "tall enough", a tall guy downplaying height stats to make his height seem more special, etc., but why do average or tallish guys here WANT to believe that you have to be tall af to not be an incel and that reality is worse than the studies show? To what end?

 

[m0ss26]

i feel like a child at 5'10 with shoes so i just cope with face physique and fighting

even saying this some of the best looking people and biggest slayers I know are 5'8-5'9

 

[LVZZO]

but why do average or tallish guys here WANT to believe that you have to be tall af to not be an incel? To what end?

They can't get laid and the only explanation possible is that they aren't tall enough

 

[ReadBooksEveryday]

Inceldom or not, no amount of money, subscribers, wealth or status can make up for what you see are about to see below. Manlets I warn you [DO NOT CLICK]

Spoiler

@Eli

 

[wsada]

I'm 182.5cm

 

[ReadBooksEveryday]

I'm 182.5cm

ITT : Absolutely BRUTAL Height Mogs [Manlets DONT Enter Or RISK Your SANITY]

looksmax.org

 

[adam_ross2549]

in mumbai the grandmas are taller than me and freuquently point out my lankly stature

 

[LVZZO]

Inceldom or not, no amount of money, subscribers, wealth or status can make up for what you see are about to see below. Manlets I warn you [DO NOT CLICK]

Spoiler

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@Eli

Taller guys are taller than a shorter guy

Spoiler

 

[finn899]

if you think 6'2 is top 20 percent height in germany then your delusional and never stepped foot in europe a day nin your life,thats top 35 percent height maybe 40

 

[blackazure88]

Why be alive if you're not 6ft+ man?

 

[Sanguinius]

Studies are cope compared to real world observation and experience

 

[LVZZO]

if you think 6'2 is top 20 percent height in germany then your delusional and never stepped foot in europe a day nin your life,thats top 35 percent height maybe 40

According to which data?
Anecdotal reports vs facts

 

[funkyflamingo]

Yes... height is a halo but lets stop acting like if you are average height it's over.

Height follows a normal distribution with a bell curve, meaning that most people are around average, meaning it's normal and not a looksmin like some retards make it seem, it's just neutral.

View attachment 2642707View attachment 2642714

Because average is more or less the same as the median height it means that 50% of guys will be taller than you but it also means that:

• 38,2% of guys will be either 0-2 inches (~5cm) shorter or taller than you
• 68% of guys will be either 0-4 inches (~10cm) shorter or taller than you
• 32% of guys will height mog you and you will height mog 32% of guys (>4inch/10cm difference)

View attachment 2642736View attachment 2642743

Average/median height also varies greatly from country to country, meaning what is considered short or tall also varies.
Even in Germany 6'2 or 188cm should be around top 20% in height (18-20yo in 2021), in other countries it's like top 10% or less.

View attachment 2642725View attachment 2642929

You can check the height stats for your country below

Average human height by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Regarding the stats for the female height,
The anecdotal reports of women towering over you if you are around average height are complete BS.

View attachment 2642957

• If you are average in your country, only about 3% of girls or 1 in 33 will be taller than you
• Even you if you are 5'5 or 165,1cm, in most western countries it's like bottom 5%, you are still taller than >50% of girls

The average male/female height ratio ranges from like 1.04 to 1.11, the most normal being 1.08
This happens for a reason, odds are you are still a match for every girl within that height range.

• Taking the last example, if you are 5'5 or 165,1cm your partner would have to be:
  • 1.04 ratio: 5'2.9 or 161,1cm or smaller (~45% of girls)
  • 1.08 ratio: 5'0.2 or 152,8cm or smaller (~5% of girls)

Spoiler: TLDR

Even If you are bottom 5% in height, you can still be a match for 45% of girls

boost + high iq

 

[SexuallyAbusive]

didnt read

also 6'2 is below average

 

[Lethbridge]

Yes... height is a halo but lets stop acting like if you are average height it's over.

Height follows a normal distribution with a bell curve, meaning that most people are around average, meaning it's normal and not a looksmin like some retards make it seem, it's just neutral.

View attachment 2642707View attachment 2642714

Because average is more or less the same as the median height it means that 50% of guys will be taller than you but it also means that:

• 38,2% of guys will be either 0-2 inches (~5cm) shorter or taller than you
• 68% of guys will be either 0-4 inches (~10cm) shorter or taller than you
• 32% of guys will height mog you and you will height mog 32% of guys (>4inch/10cm difference)

View attachment 2642736View attachment 2642743

Average/median height also varies greatly from country to country, meaning what is considered short or tall also varies.
Even in Germany 6'2 or 188cm should be around top 20% in height (18-20yo in 2021), in other countries it's like top 10% or less.

View attachment 2642725View attachment 2642929

You can check the height stats for your country below

Average human height by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Regarding the stats for the female height,
The anecdotal reports of women towering over you if you are around average height are complete BS.

View attachment 2642957

• If you are average in your country, only about 3% of girls or 1 in 33 will be taller than you
• Even you if you are 5'5 or 165,1cm, in most western countries it's like bottom 5%, you are still taller than >50% of girls

The average male/female height ratio ranges from like 1.04 to 1.11, the most normal being 1.08
This happens for a reason, odds are you are still a match for every girl within that height range.

• Taking the last example, if you are 5'5 or 165,1cm your partner would have to be:
  • 1.04 ratio: 5'2.9 or 161,1cm or smaller (~45% of girls)
  • 1.08 ratio: 5'0.2 or 152,8cm or smaller (~5% of girls)

Spoiler: TLDR

Even If you are bottom 5% in height, you can still be a match for 45% of girls

lmao i was pondering for a second why it's mildly bimodal at the middle, how there's more 5"10 and 6"0 than 5"11

AND THEN I REALIZED ITS A SELF REPORTED SURVEY
LIARS

 

[VolcelFTW]

Water. Good thread tho. The only reason why these 6’1 “incels” get height mogged is because they only pay attention to people taller than them. Their brain doesn’t register the dozens of shorter people they just walked by but hyperfixate on the taller ones

 

[LVZZO]

lmao i was pondering for a second why it's mildly bimodal at the middle, how there's more 5"10 and 6"0 than 5"11

AND THEN I REALIZED ITS A SELF REPORTED SURVEY
LIARS

Yes the heights on the self reported study are higher, they could be inflating their numbers a bit, but probably it's also because the age group is from 18 to 20 yo and the other studies include older people

 

[orangomango2003]

Ok i agree. height is mostly an internet thing but in real life your much less likely to get rejected over it, as long as your face and personality are good.

but research says girls prefer an 8 inch height difference. Even if you're taller than them they will still pretend you're shorter than them. One girl was 3 inches shorter than me and believed she was taller than me.

So its true that its not always a deal breaker, it is still a negative.

 

[BananaBoy]

Moving to Poland

 

[kanderior]

Ok i agree. height is mostly an internet thing but in real life your much less likely to get rejected over it, as long as your face and personality are good.

but research says girls prefer an 8 inch height difference. Even if you're taller than them they will still pretend you're shorter than them. One girl was 3 inches shorter than me and believed she was taller than me.

So its true that its not always a deal breaker, it is still a negative.

So ideal male height for appeal and SMV is average female height+8 to 10 inches?

 

[sportsmogger]

i get heightmatched or mogged frequently at 6'2

 

[LVZZO]

Ok i agree. height is mostly an internet thing but in real life your much less likely to get rejected over it, as long as your face and personality are good.

but research says girls prefer an 8 inch height difference. Even if you're taller than them they will still pretend you're shorter than them. One girl was 3 inches shorter than me and believed she was taller than me.

So its true that its not always a deal breaker, it is still a negative.

My stance is that if you are average you are neutral in absolute terms, it's just that the taller a girl is than average the more negative she will view your average height, it's relative.

 

[DildoFaggins]

jfl

 

[orangomango2003]

So ideal male height for appeal and SMV is average female height+8 to 10 inches?

Ideal male height according to women is 8 inches taller and ideal female height according to men 3 inches shorter. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020

The study is only a poll done on women and men, so i wouldn't take it too serious. For example almost every women would rather have a partner with wide shoulders and a sixpack. That doesn't mean anything less than ideal won't be tolerated.

 

[enchanted_elixir]

Yes... height is a halo but lets stop acting like if you are average height it's over.

Height follows a normal distribution with a bell curve, meaning that most people are around average, meaning it's normal and not a looksmin like some retards make it seem, it's just neutral.

View attachment 2642707View attachment 2642714

Because average is more or less the same as the median height it means that 50% of guys will be taller than you but it also means that:

• 38,2% of guys will be either 0-2 inches (~5cm) shorter or taller than you
• 68% of guys will be either 0-4 inches (~10cm) shorter or taller than you
• 32% of guys will height mog you and you will height mog 32% of guys (>4inch/10cm difference)

View attachment 2642736View attachment 2642743

Average/median height also varies greatly from country to country, meaning what is considered short or tall also varies.
Even in Germany 6'2 or 188cm should be around top 20% in height (18-20yo in 2021), in other countries it's like top 10% or less.

View attachment 2642725View attachment 2642929

You can check the height stats for your country below

Average human height by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Regarding the stats for the female height,
The anecdotal reports of women towering over you if you are around average height are complete BS.

View attachment 2642957

• If you are average in your country, only about 3% of girls or 1 in 33 will be taller than you
• Even you if you are 5'5 or 165,1cm, in most western countries it's like bottom 5%, you are still taller than >50% of girls

The average male/female height ratio ranges from like 1.04 to 1.11, the most normal being 1.08
This happens for a reason, odds are you are still a match for every girl within that height range.

• Taking the last example, if you are 5'5 or 165,1cm your partner would have to be:
  • 1.04 ratio: 5'2.9 or 161,1cm or smaller (~45% of girls)
  • 1.08 ratio: 5'0.2 or 152,8cm or smaller (~5% of girls)

Spoiler: TLDR

Even If you are bottom 5% in height, you can still be a match for 45% of girls

Women want men that are significantly taller than them and moderately taller than other men, ideally.

 

[LVZZO]

Ideal male height according to women is 8 inches taller and ideal female height according to men 3 inches shorter. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886913000020

The study is only a poll done on women and men, so i wouldn't take it too serious. For example almost every women would rather have a partner with wide shoulders and a sixpack. That doesn't mean anything less than ideal won't be tolerated.

Woman can't tell 8 inches from 6 jfl but yeah seems like it
Take a look at this pic, it's like you can see the difference in dominance and affection, it's like he is the idol, like she found the one, while below they are for each other, the relationship is idolized.

The second pic shows a 6 inch difference, so about 6-8 inches being the ideal I'm not surprised

Regardless, ideal is different from good or neutral, not everyone has ideal features it's just how it is.

 

[kanderior]

Woman can't tell 8 inches from 6 jfl but yeah seems like it
Take a look at this pic, it's like you can see the difference in dominance and affection, it's like he is the idol, like she found the one, while below they are for each other, the relationship is idolized.

The second pic shows a 6 inch difference, so about 6-8 inches being the ideal I'm not surprised
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Regardless, ideal is different from good or neutral, not everyone has ideal features it's just how it is.

I think 6 looks better tbh, they look closer physically and symbolically, like you said they are for each other, in the first it's more dimorphic and Beauty and the Beast (I know it's literally from that, I mean it generally), the man looks a bit brutish/comical and it has slightly parental undertones which I don't like.

 

[LVZZO]

I think 6 looks better tbh, they look closer physically and symbolically, like you said they are for each other, in the first it's more dimorphic and Beauty and the Beast (I know it's literally from that, I mean it generally), the man looks a bit brutish/comical and it has slightly parental undertones which I don't like.

Yeah it's interesting how in Hollywood you never see guys towering over girls being the standard

Really the tallest example I can find is this, maybe it's looks bad on screen idk

 

[Napoleon1800]

Average height is worse than being short

 

[Spiritualcell]

This height difference is ideal

 

[coomahboomah]

Yes... height is a halo but lets stop acting like if you are average height it's over.

Height follows a normal distribution with a bell curve, meaning that most people are around average, meaning it's normal and not a looksmin like some retards make it seem, it's just neutral.

View attachment 2642707View attachment 2642714

Because average is more or less the same as the median height it means that 50% of guys will be taller than you but it also means that:

• 38,2% of guys will be either 0-2 inches (~5cm) shorter or taller than you
• 68% of guys will be either 0-4 inches (~10cm) shorter or taller than you
• 32% of guys will height mog you and you will height mog 32% of guys (>4inch/10cm difference)

View attachment 2642736View attachment 2642743

Average/median height also varies greatly from country to country, meaning what is considered short or tall also varies.
Even in Germany 6'2 or 188cm should be around top 20% in height (18-20yo in 2021), in other countries it's like top 10% or less.

View attachment 2642725View attachment 2642929

You can check the height stats for your country below

Average human height by country - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Regarding the stats for the female height,
The anecdotal reports of women towering over you if you are around average height are complete BS.

View attachment 2642957

• If you are average in your country, only about 3% of girls or 1 in 33 will be taller than you
• Even you if you are 5'5 or 165,1cm, in most western countries it's like bottom 5%, you are still taller than >50% of girls

The average male/female height ratio ranges from like 1.04 to 1.11, the most normal being 1.08
This happens for a reason, odds are you are still a match for every girl within that height range.

• Taking the last example, if you are 5'5 or 165,1cm your partner would have to be:
  • 1.04 ratio: 5'2.9 or 161,1cm or smaller (~45% of girls)
  • 1.08 ratio: 5'0.2 or 152,8cm or smaller (~5% of girls)

Spoiler: TLDR

Even If you are bottom 5% in height, you can still be a match for 45% of girls

Using stats instead of blackpill, goated life fuel i might not use GH at 180cm then

 

[coomahboomah]

Yeah it's interesting how in Hollywood you never see guys towering over girls being the standard
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Really the tallest example I can find is this, maybe it's looks bad on screen idk
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towering over a girl isn’t good, as a 5’11 dude i’ve been with 4’11 girls and it’s bad, your back hurts holding their hand, they look like ur kid, they can’t suck ur dick and it’s hard to even kiss them cuz their lips r so small, it’s a different world, save short girls for short guys

 

[Napoleon1800]

6ft is literally the bare minimum. MINIMUM. Height and pheno matters overall more than face as long as ur mtn irl, brutal truth I've found out,

Girls don't care that much about their height difference with a guy. If we take in the west average female height as 5'5 and average male as 5'10, then 97% of men r taller than the females. Its not about being taller. Girls can't tell difference of 5 and 7 inches very accurately. It's about heightmogging other men and standing out. It's all about being something that other girls are jealous of.

 

[Napoleon1800]

towering over a girl isn’t good, as a 5’11 dude i’ve been with 4’11 girls and it’s bad, your back hurts holding their hand, they look like ur kid, they can’t suck ur dick and it’s hard to even kiss them cuz their lips r so small, it’s a different world, save short girls for short guys

4'11 is like dwarf.

 

[Napoleon1800]

Using stats instead of blackpill, goated life fuel i might not use GH at 180cm then

Jfl and miss out potentially on getting to 183+. 5'11 is arguably one of the worst heights 2 be since ur on the verge but u aren't 6 feet. It will drive u insane

 

[LVZZO]

Jfl and miss out potentially on getting to 183+. 5'11 is arguably one of the worst heights 2 be since ur on the verge but u aren't 6 feet. It will drive u insane

Just don't be an imperial fag

 

[anthony111553]

No man the studies were done by coping manlet scientists/Jews, average male zoomer is 6'3 and I get brutally mogged by women at 6'1 believe me bro. My black pilled body dysmorphic ramblings have more validity than actual studies based on thousands of people.

all you do is cope on every thread kys

 

[anthony111553]

niggas really say "trust the studies" hey retards you know those "studies" also say the blackpill is bs right? fucking JFL

 

[finn899]

According to which data?
Anecdotal reports vs facts

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stop basing shit off stats you nigga,its common knowledge that not only do they underestimate the height by 1-2 inches everry time, they count the heights of 50 year olds,whatever the 'average height is' of a country add 2 inches bc thats the average for 18-25 year olds which are the only competition that matter.

 

[anthony111553]

stop basing shit off stats you nigga,its common knowledge that not only do they underestimate the height by 1-2 inches everry time they cound the heights of 50 year olds,whatever the 'average height is' of a country add 2 inches bc thats the average for 18-25 year olds which are the only competition that matter.

nigga's a height coper but has a Chico pfp

 

[finn899]

nigga's a height coper but has a Chico pfp

he doesnt even know 6 foot is average in europe for young 20 year olds,its not a halo its the bare minimum to not get looked down on

 

[LVZZO]

stop basing shit off stats you nigga,its common knowledge that not only do they underestimate the height by 1-2 inches everry time, they count the heights of 50 year olds,whatever the 'average height is' of a country add 2 inches bc thats the average for 18-25 year olds which are the only competition that matter.

Listen fuckface, the self reported data in Germany for 18-20yo in 2021 averages at 181,8cm or 5ft 11.5 inches
For most countries is lower than that