decent jaw fillers result

[chigoha]

do you think it looks good or a bit uncanny ?

 

[Deleted member 18361]

how does he look gayer with a bigger jaw

 

[chigoha]

how does he look gayer with a bigger jaw

the lighting is very different on the after pic

 

[Sir Galachad]

Too much on the angles. Looks uncanny imo and what is with that gay sparkle in his eyes, did he cry?

 

[Deleted member 23017]

lol he already had a decent jaw before

he needs maxilla

 

[Deleted member 18361]

the lighting is very different on the after pic

its a really dog shit result and the surgeon should be crucified

 

[chigoha]

what is with that gay sparkle in his eyes, did he cry?

DIFFERENT LIGHTING

are you guys blind ?

 

[LiteralCaucasian]

You look pretty uncanny. Even if I hadn't seen the original image, I'd know that the stuff is off very quickly.

 

[chigoha]

lol he already had a decent jaw before

he needs maxilla

no his jaw lacked angularity before and how the fuck do you know he needs maxilla without seeing his side profile JFL ?

 

[chigoha]

You look pretty uncanny. Even if I hadn't seen the original image, I'd know that the stuff is off very quickly.

it's not me

 

[Deleted member 23017]

no his jaw lacked angularity before and how the fuck do you know he needs maxilla without seeing his side profile JFL ?

just look at those nasolabial folds

 

[chigoha]

just look at those nasolabial folds

doesn't necessarily mean you're recessed + they're gone in the after pic

 

[LiteralCaucasian]

it's not me

Ah that's OK

 

[Deusmaximus]

chadlite with a bigger neck

 

[yuyu]

Looks like utter dogshit shit. It's unnatural because good-looking people by virtue of proper craniofacial development don't develop a wide bigonial with those (pseudo) masseter insertions above the lips.

He should add filler around his mandible to give the illusion that the jaw results lower as it'd give the illusion of dragging his gonions downward and align his proportions. BTW this guy looks gay because he did a bit of philtrum, nasolabial, and/or lip filler. They used good lighting plus his slight pout for the sake of showing result looks better than how it'd look in average lighting i.e. uncanny. Looks gay cause of the pout and lip lifts/lip filler that gay guys do

There is this one guy, Allistair Cook with natural masseter hypertrophy.

Look at his insertions and where they lay. Yes it's slightly unideal but he can rock the look because it's natural and when it comes to looks you can't beat how nature decides how you'll look. Harmony is a very delicate thing that can get fucked, hence why 'GL' guys like Amnesia or Sallu that are surgerycels still look more dollish than gl. Cook's insertions are fitting for his face because naturally mandible is fully, properly grown with sufficient bone mass that rests lower than the lower lip unlike this deranged tranny fucker's filler results

Proper craniofacial development results in the antegonial notch resting below the lower lip (even in cases of SFS where it's short lower third) because there's a lack of downward growth which is responsible for high gonial angle and non-existent ramus. Yes, Salludon isn't a perfect example of 'proper craniofacial development' but even with his average profile pre-ascension his proportions were good and gave good filler or implant or whatever insertions

You guys need to not only fully digest the pheno pill because there are many pheno copers. This guy's pheno can't rock that filler, he just doesn't have the look, the dimorphism (which in itself tends to come a lot from skull, and how skull dictates fwhr etc.).

And once you've digested the phenopill you need to digest the skullpill. The skullpill makes or breaks your base, your ability to ascend thereof and even the risk-reward of surgeries. After all, you're trying to create harmony and good looks out of thin air like this faggot.

This guy was fine before but tried to create a halo from nowhere. His skull and how it framed his lower third's proportions relative to his midface means that filler elongates his face and makes his midface look caved in cause his masseter-gonial insertions are too high and the pseudo forward growth doesn't match his upper skull

He'd ideally look better if he could lower his mandible and/or add mass to it (implant), then think about filler as touch-up for his lower gonion region. Or alternatively filler for his mandible with a few ml each side and have maintenance upkeep regularly (every quarter I'd think?), but IMO use conservative filler to test if implants could help your case...

 

[chemosh]

Looks like utter dogshit shit. It's unnatural because good-looking people by virtue of proper craniofacial development don't develop a wide bigonial with those (pseudo) masseter insertions above the lips.
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He should add filler around his mandible to give the illusion that the jaw results lower as it'd give the illusion of dragging his gonions downward and align his proportions. BTW this guy looks gay because he did a bit of philtrum, nasolabial, and/or lip filler. They used good lighting plus his slight pout for the sake of showing result looks better than how it'd look in average lighting i.e. uncanny. Looks gay cause of the pout and lip lifts/lip filler that gay guys do

There is this one guy, Allistair Cook with natural masseter hypertrophy.
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Look at his insertions and where they lay. Yes it's slightly unideal but he can rock the look because it's natural and when it comes to looks you can't beat how nature decides how you'll look. Harmony is a very delicate thing that can get fucked, hence why 'GL' guys like Amnesia or Sallu that are surgerycels still look more dollish than gl. Cook's insertions are fitting for his face because naturally mandible is fully, properly grown with sufficient bone mass that rests lower than the lower lip unlike this deranged tranny fucker's filler results


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Proper craniofacial development results in the antegonial notch resting below the lower lip (even in cases of SFS where it's short lower third) because there's a lack of downward growth which is responsible for high gonial angle and non-existent ramus. Yes, Salludon isn't a perfect example of 'proper craniofacial development' but even with his average profile pre-ascension his proportions were good and gave good filler or implant or whatever insertions

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You guys need to not only fully digest the pheno pill because there are many pheno copers. This guy's pheno can't rock that filler, he just doesn't have the look, the dimorphism (which in itself tends to come a lot from skull, and how skull dictates fwhr etc.).

And once you've digested the phenopill you need to digest the skullpill. The skullpill makes or breaks your base, your ability to ascend thereof and even the risk-reward of surgeries. After all, you're trying to create harmony and good looks out of thin air like this faggot.

This guy was fine before but tried to create a halo from nowhere. His skull and how it framed his lower third's proportions relative to his midface means that filler elongates his face and makes his midface look caved in cause his masseter-gonial insertions are too high and the pseudo forward growth doesn't match his upper skull

He'd ideally look better if he could lower his mandible and/or add mass to it (implant), then think about filler as touch-up for his lower gonion region. Or alternatively filler for his mandible with a few ml each side and have maintenance upkeep regularly (every quarter I'd think?), but IMO use conservative filler to test if implants could help your case...

Fuckin guy worte a bible and he is mostly wrong.

The guy looks off because he has a hyper masc face with a feminine neck. If you give him a natural neck (what he would naturally have with this jaw) the result gets good.

I agree that messing with the lips gives the gay vibes.

 

[Deleted member 17920]

Someone morph with wider neck

 

[chemosh]

Already did broski

Someone morph with wider neck

 

[chemosh]

Goes from uncanny to chad

 

[yuyu]

Fuckin guy worte a bible and he is mostly wrong.

The guy looks off because he has a hyper masc face with a feminine neck. If you give him a natural neck (what he would naturally have with this jaw) the result gets good.

I agree that messing with the lips gives the gay vibes.

Neck - yes, that's one of the reasons imo, but not the only one. I think it exacerbates the issue, because if his lower third proportions were better he'd still not look that comical. You can't be hypermasc with gonions that rest above your lips bro - his face is far from hypermasc; you can't slap a jaw on anyone and then call that hypermasc. His pheno nor skull indicate that. If he wants to fraud hypermasc he'd need to bring it down (see morph below), even then it doesn't fit his pheno or skull because of his lack of zygo arches and narrow neurocranium

I did not touch the neck. All I did was bring it down like a normal jaw (the warp tool barely changed his neck laterally if it did touch the neck)

Your morph definitely improves the issue though but see how with the jaw lower near the lips on that neck alone it looks less off? Imagine this, but with a thicker neck.

Like you're not wrong, with a thicker neck currently he'd have better dimorphism but in lighting, different angles, in motion etc it'd still look off because his result is a mockery of actual masculine dimorphism on a male. Face and harmony, dimorphic features is one part of dimorphism, skull is the other. If he wants to truly work towards being gl and not be seen as gay, or plastic-GL (read: uncanny valley), then implants to bring his proportions down would help a tonne and only then some filler atop