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85 percentile in India
55-60 percentile in UK
??????

how have you come to the conclusion that the margin between indian and uk looks percentile is only 25% + very generous rating
 
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??????

how have you come to the conclusion that the margin between indian and uk looks percentile is only 25% + very generous rating
@eduardkoopman is very deluded in rating
He often denies just be white and likes to overate ethnics
 
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??????

how have you come to the conclusion that the margin between indian and uk looks percentile is only 25% + very generous rating
I like to be generous.
@eduardkoopman is very deluded in rating
He often denies just be white and likes to overate ethnics
I like to be generous.
 
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Anyways OP is nearly high tier normie for his race
I’d say compare to the average white guy in the UK you’re probably slightly below but if you fix your undereye you’d probably be fine
Youd do better if you try to black Max to be honest
 
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@eduardkoopman is very deluded in rating
He often denies just be white and likes to overate ethnics
I life among whites. And don't often see irl ethnics much, or know them from close.
So I'm not that much aware, about how much ethnicity tax exists irl.
I need to see irl experience, to feel and know it.

That happens, when all you know is whites
 
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4 psl
 
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Idk. You saw him and thought he is gl? I had 0 emotions. Like no care. Looks normie to me.

Not good looking not ugly. For htn you have to atleast trigger something. that makes me go „good looking“.

op doesn’t stand out in a average group.
Dudes def below average. You are not consistent at all tbh. You overrate some dudes and underrate others. OP, I'd say you are 3.5 PSL. Fixing under eye hollows should make you average.
 
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85 percentile in India
55-60 percentile in UK
I like in Pakistan. He wouldn't be anywhere near 85th percentile lol. This dude would be about 90th percentile here:

Dude


Mogs OP hard imo.
 
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U remind me of a rodent for some reason, ur not ugly though high tier normal imo
 
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I life among whites. And don't often see irl ethnics much, or know them from close.
So I'm not that much aware, about how much ethnicity tax exists irl.
I need to see irl experience, to feel and know it.

That happens, when all you know is whites
He has a very ethnic pheno and will get taxed heavily. Dude I posted would too even though his pheno is far less Indian.
 
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4.5 psl ish
 
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@AscendingHero rate
 
I like in Pakistan. He wouldn't be anywhere near 85th percentile lol. This dude would be about 90th percentile here:

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Mogs OP hard imo.
That guy looks pretty pathetic ngl from a male perspective at least. I see how he has appeal to girls tho

Would be a htn max where I live ngl
 
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Mirin wide palate

Did you do any sort of maxillary expansion?
No. I just naturally had one. I actually looked very subhuman as a kid cuz my teeth were way too big for my mouth.

My mum also has an absolutdly godly palate. Even better than mine. She has a 14 tooth smile.
 
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No. I just naturally had one. I actually looked very subhuman as a kid cuz my teeth were way too big for my mouth.

My mum also has an absolutdly godly palate. Even better than mine. She has a 14 tooth smile.
Meanwhile I have a subhuman 7-8 teeth smile with large buccal corridors despite having a narrow mouth too :feelswhy:
 
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See how he has more appeal in his photos with better lighting?

It's all pheno

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He has the harmoneous bone-structure. Maxilla is average tho
 
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Mirin wide palate

Did you do any sort of maxillary expansion?

It's odd because he has a wide palate when he smiles, but when he doesn't he looks the complete opposite

Why? Lmao

@Almost Chadlite
 
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It's odd because he has a wide palate when he smiles, but when he doesn't he looks the complete opposite

Why? Lmao

@Almost Chadlite
Small mouth and prominent low set zygos im guessing.
 
That guy looks pretty pathetic ngl from a male perspective at least. I see how he has appeal to girls tho

Would be a htn max where I live ngl
You look more masculine but he has a better pheno and no major flaws. Obviously, he wouldn't be above HTN in the west I agree. But he mogs most dudes where I live just because of pheno. Your main problem is under eye hollows. Fixing them should bring you to above average. But your pheno is going to tank your SMV hard. I'd consider LARPing as another ethnicity if I were you.
 
See how he has more appeal in his photos with better lighting?

It's all pheno

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He has the harmoneous bone-structure. Maxilla is average tho
@VicMackey You have a fairly low-class appearance so getting chains, tattoos and a buzzcut should be a good way to thugmax. Should ascend you hard.
 
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You look more masculine but he has a better pheno and no major flaws. Obviously, he wouldn't be above HTN in the west I agree. But he mogs most dudes where I live just because of pheno. Your main problem is under eye hollows. Fixing them should bring you to above average. But your pheno is going to tank your SMV hard. I'd consider LARPing as another ethnicity if I were you.

Lol he is a fucking weak pussy in the west. A goodie little toe shoes nerd

You twits worship light skin pakis it's unbelievable

He's a boneless cut carried by his skin complexion and eye-area

Imagine frauding with beard instead of implants if you are him though, his base is very good because of his eye-area and pheno
 
Lol he is a fucking weak pussy in the west. A goodie little toe shoes nerd

You twits worship light skin pakis it's unbelievable

He's a boneless cut carried by his skin complexion and eye-area

Imagine frauding with beard instead of implants if you are him though, his base is very good because of his eye-area and pheno
I know. He doesn't look masculine. I wouldn't want to be completely pale as it looks weird on men. But if I had to choose between a light skin pheno like the dude I posted and OP's pheno, I'd choose the light skin one. He can always tan, get lean and maybe get implants/fillers for better facial structure but a bad pheno is unfixable. But OP has great thugmaxxing potential so he can have very high appeal to a subset of women. Light skin curry doesn't.
 
I know. He doesn't look masculine. I wouldn't want to be completely pale as it looks weird on men. But if I had to choose between a light skin pheno like the dude I posted and OP's pheno, I'd choose the light skin one. He can always tan, get lean and maybe get implants/fillers for better facial structure but a bad pheno is unfixable. But OP has great thugmaxxing potential so he can have very high appeal to a subset of women. Light skin curry doesn't.

It's not even about masculinity, he has no lower-tier

A man without a lower facial third is not attractive by any sort of imagination to any girl that isn't average

I'm not sure I would swap my face for his even if he is objectively better looking because of the pheno and VERY good eye-area, simply because I don't; know how the implants would end up looking once I got them done

The fact he hasn't got implants done shows you how much your nation worships light skin fuckers, because his lower facial third is HORRENDOUS.

Get lean? Getting lean would make the nigga look even more feminine are you fucking illogical? How does killing your fat pads improve your lower facial third? This is fucking dumb. He needs implants but we don't know how he would look after

Do we have any examples of guys with great phenos and eye-areas but shit-ass lower thirds like this twit who got implants put in?
 
It's not even about masculinity, he has no lower-tier

A man without a lower facial third is not attractive by any sort of imagination to any girl that isn't average

I'm not sure I would swap my face for his even if he is objectively better looking because of the pheno and VERY good eye-area, simply because I don't; know how the implants would end up looking once I got them done

The fact he hasn't got implants done shows you how much your nation worships light skin fuckers, because his lower facial third is HORRENDOUS.

Get lean? Getting lean would make the nigga look even more feminine are you fucking illogical? How does killing your fat pads improve your lower facial third? This is fucking dumb. He needs implants but we don't know how he would look after

Do we have any examples of guys with great phenos and eye-areas but shit-ass lower thirds like this twit who got implants put in?
His lower third isn't trucel tier. And going from 20%+ bf to 10-12% bf makes a big difference to lower third definition. And even if his lower third is as crap as you say, lower third is much easier to fix than a bad pheno or a bad eye area and I am saying this as someone with shit eye area and curry pheno.
 
@MakinItHappenReturn I know this sucks to hear, but pheno matters a lot more than anything else. I'd go far as saying a 3.5 PSL white guy has more SMV you than you, even though you are above average PSL wise. It's a hard thing to accept as we can't do jack shit about pheno.
 
@MakinItHappenReturn I know this sucks to hear, but pheno matters a lot more than anything else. I'd go far as saying a 3.5 PSL white guy has more SMV you than you, even though you are above average PSL wise. It's a hard thing to accept as we can't do jack shit about pheno.

You're wrong lol

Out in the real world you are definitely and I wouldn't make those assertions given you have never lived in the west and are posting your strawman theory from your strawman Pakistani village hut

The white girl I am with is a Becky and was married to a 5'10 Chadlite for 12 years, cheated on him in year 10 and is now with me 2 years after the divorce.

My pheno is nowhere near as bad as the average Indian's so pls don't project that crap onto me. My real life experiences tell me this, particularly when I was younger. 'Indian, you don't look Indian. I would never have guessed or said Indian. I was thinking may be something like Turkish, Iranian'. Nigga between 19 and 23 I was getting Italian, Spanish, Egyptian'. Even now with my collagen weaker I am white passing. The pheno prob stands out more on selfie camera but otherwise it's nowhere near as bad as you assume.
 
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Why do these native Indians/Pakistanis make assumptions when they don't even know the track-history of the dudes of their ethnic origin in the west?

Nigga @Pakicel look at my pheno in proper lighting and tell me my pheno fails me.

 
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You're wrong lol

Out in the real world you are definitely and I wouldn't make those assertions given you have never lived in the west and are posting your strawman theory from your strawman Pakistani village hut

The white girl I am with is a Becky and was married to a 5'10 Chadlite for 12 years, cheated on him in year 10 and is now with me 2 years after the divorce.

My pheno is nowhere near as bad as the average Indian's so pls don't project that crap onto me. My real life experiences tell me this, particularly when I was younger. 'Indian, you don't look Indian. I would never have guessed or said Indian. I was thinking may be something like Turkish, Iranian'. Nigga between 19 and 23 I was getting Italian, Spanish, Egyptian'. Even now with my collagen weaker I am white passing. The pheno prob stands out more on selfie camera but otherwise it's nowhere near as bad as you assume.
Dude. It obviously isn't as bad as the average Indian's. Like you don't look like this dude:

Pajeet


But you are obviously ethnic looking. There's no denying that. And I never said you can't get women. But I am willing to bet every last dollar that if you were to wake up the next day with the exact same PSL but a north atlandid pheno, you would do much much better in the dating market than you do right now.
 
Why do these native Indians/Pakistanis make assumptions when they don't even know the track-history of the dudes of their ethnic origin in the west?

Nigga @Pakicel look at my pheno in proper lighting and tell me my pheno fails me.


You don't look white. You would stand out in a group of white people as an ethnic dude.
 
You don't look white. You would stand out in a group of white people as an ethnic dude.

Nowhere near as you think.

I remember seeing your photos in dm and I remember you having bones and looking dimorphic, but having a much darker pheno than me

I am on the ligher side for our pheno.

The pakistani guy you posted up above is just super white

You have it wrong because you are using WHAT YOUR COUNTRY worships as a barometer
 
Dude. It obviously isn't as bad as the average Indian's. Like you don't look like this dude:

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But you are obviously ethnic looking. There's no denying that. And I never said you can't get women. But I am willing to bet every last dollar that if you were to wake up the next day with the exact same PSL but a north atlandid pheno, you would do much much better in the dating market than you do right now.

Me slaying cute white top tier Beckys in my University days say much different bro

I'm done with this convo because I am not being told something which I have proven isn't true by the life I've lived and still am living
 
Nowhere near as you think.

I remember seeing your photos in dm and I remember you having bones and looking dimorphic, but having a much darker pheno than me

I am on the ligher side for our pheno.

The pakistani guy you posted up above is just super white

You have it wrong because you are using WHAT YOUR COUNTRY worships as a barometer
Never dmed you bro. This is me:

Subhuman


I am truecel with trash bones and ratios lol.
 
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Never dmed you bro. This is me:

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I am truecel with trash bones and ratios lol.

Oh yeah it wasn't you nvm you were a normie, not this truecel

I see why you are obsessed with pheno now

Lemme tell you it isn't the pheno AT ALL
 
Oh yeah it wasn't you nvm you were a normie, not this truecel

I see why you are obsessed with pheno now

Lemme tell you it isn't the pheno AT ALL
Obviously, my pheno isn't the biggest problem but I still look curry. My whole skull and ratios are severely fucked. I actually prefer a Thom Strijd pheno instead of pasty white. Tan skin with caucasian features.
 
Oh yeah it wasn't you nvm you were a normie, not this truecel

I see why you are obsessed with pheno now

Lemme tell you it isn't the pheno AT ALL
I think you mean @subhuman pakicel
 
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I think you mean @subhuman pakicel

No I don't mean him either. It was someone else. He was like high leaning mid tier normie. Possibly high tier normie depending on girl.
 
Obviously, my pheno isn't the biggest problem but I still look curry. My whole skull and ratios are severely fucked. I actually prefer a Thom Strijd pheno instead of pasty white. Tan skin with caucasian features.

Stop talking about your pheno when everything else is the first barrier to finding you attractive

Same features and bite and recession on a white guy and he'd be a nerdy trucel that would get bullied

IT ISN'T YOUR PHENO

You are looking for your heritage to blame

It was your development and the genetic recombination of both your mother and father

We all know braces can fuck your jaw development up if had at puberty. You're additionally short with a very very weak frame

How tall?
 
Stop talking about your pheno when everything else is the first barrier to finding you attractive

Same features and bite and recession on a white guy and he'd be a nerdy trucel that would get bullied

IT ISN'T YOUR PHENO

You are looking for your heritage to blame

It was your development and the genetic recombination of both your mother and father

We all know braces can fuck your jaw development up if had at puberty. You're additionally short with a very very weak frame

How tall?
5'5" :feelswhy:. Got braces for fucked up teeth. I really needed jaw surgery or orthotropics or something.
 
5'5" :feelswhy:. Got braces for fucked up teeth. I really needed jaw surgery or orthotropics or something.
I said pheno is the least of my problems. It's my height and bone structure. Curry pheno just fucks me up further.
 
5'5" :feelswhy:. Got braces for fucked up teeth. I really needed jaw surgery or orthotropics or something.

Yup you weren't educated on what braces would do and your parents fucked you again. Once with the genetics they passed on and once with the shit they put around your teeth to make them straight.

Dunno what to say to you tbh man.

You are a classic example of someone whom just got EXTREMELY EXTREMELY unlucky

How old? No chance of height spurt? 17? What's your age?
 
Yup you weren't educated on what braces would do and your parents fucked you again. Once with the genetics they passed on and once with the shit they put around your teeth to make them straight.

Dunno what to say to you tbh man.

You are a classic example of someone whom just got EXTREMELY EXTREMELY unlucky

How old? No chance of height spurt? 17? What's your age?
25 :feelswhy:
 
I said pheno is the least of my problems. It's my height and bone structure. Curry pheno just fucks me up further.

No it doesn't because 0 multiplied by something good is still 0

A good pheno with those exact same features would still have you as tough on the eye
 

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