Dermatologist confirmed I am not balding

[BucketCrab]

Went to a dermatologist to put all my balding anxiety to rest. I don't have any visible signs but I am VERY paranoid about it.

He confirmed I only have a "slight androgenetic marking" on my hairline which he said is a totally normal secondary sexual characteristic in males (I guess that is his way of saying "mature hairline" or something). I specifically asked if there's any chance I will go bald, and if I should worry about going bald.
He repeated that I have nothing to worry about and that he couldn't find any signs of male pattern baldness.

He also mentioned that statistically, the vast majority of men develop visible signs at age 20 and 40, due to hormonal fluctuations post-puberty and later in life, so if there will be any signs then, I can think about medication when I'm around 40.
As of now though, he said I don't need to take anything, no finasteride, no minoxidil, nothing!

Haven't been this happy in a while. Suck my dick, Norwood Reaper.

 

[BugeyeBigNoseCurry]

Went to a dermatologist to put all my balding anxiety to rest. I don't have any visible signs but I am VERY paranoid about it.

He confirmed I only have a "slight androgenetic marking" on my hairline which he said is a totally normal secondary sexual characteristic in males (I guess that is his way of saying "mature hairline" or something). I specifically asked if there's any chance I will go bald, and if I should worry about going bald.
He repeated that I have nothing to worry about and that he couldn't find any signs of male pattern baldness.

He also mentioned that statistically, the vast majority of men develop visible signs at age 20 and 40, due to hormonal fluctuations post-puberty and later in life, so if there will be any signs then, I can think about medication when I'm around 40.
As of now though, he said I don't need to take anything, no finasteride, no minoxidil, nothing!

Haven't been this happy in a while. Suck my dick, Norwood Reaper.

jewish doctor

 

[Gerardwayfan]

my doc told me the same even though my right temple is like nrowood 2

 

[Lawton88]

They usually won't tell you you are balding until you are pressing NW3 status.

 

[BucketCrab]

They usually won't tell you you are balding until you are pressing NW3 status.

I'm like a NW1-2 at the moment, but it was like this from age 14, hasn't changed at all in 12 years.

My hairline looks exactly like this guy's.

 

[Silver]

Maturing hairline is balding, the progress of the balding just halted. The halting could be permanent if you're lucky or it could start again in the future and progress to become worse. Personally I had very minor temple recession a few years ago and it completely halted 'til recently when now my hair has become slightly thinner. I'm getting on fin, not risking shit.

 

[BucketCrab]

Maturing hairline is balding, the progress of the balding just halted. The halting could be permanent if you're lucky or it could start again in the future and progress to become worse. Personally I had very minor temple recession a few years ago and it completely halted 'til recently when now my hair has become slightly thinner. I'm getting on fin, not risking shit.

I am by no means stopping my weekly hair check. The moment I experience any thinning I will still take immediate measures.
It's just good for my mental health to have a professional check for miniaturization/density loss and have him tell me I have nothing to worry about for now.

By the way as I've mentioned in an earlier post, my hairline has not changed since I was 14. I'm 26 now; my hair has not undergone any visible change since puberty.
So I don't think it's a mature hairline, but rather a naturally high hairline.

 

[Survivor95]

They usually won't tell you you are balding until you are pressing NW3 status.

Only from NW3 is consider clinicaly balding. Imo everything past NW1.5 is a clear sign You'll your hair or every 0.5-1 mws points beyong your baseline is balding. So If you're born with NW0, beyond NW1 is balding, If you are NW2 from the birth, can happen, then NW2 in adulthood isn't consider balding and so one.

 

[Deleted member 19551]

OP all I have to say is that you are fucking retarded. There's no such thing as a mature hairline, this is just what scientifically illiterate retarded normies call a NW 0.5 young guy with a square ish hairline that's thinning at the temples. Some lose hair slowly, others rapidly; both are losing hair


Androgenic alopecia is a process, so you can't "diagnose" it unless it's already too late and you need a transplant, and statistically speaking you're most likely gonna lose enough hair by the time you're 30 where it's gonna affect your attractiveness. My father and both granfathers are NW1.5 at 50+ and my brothers are NW3 at 24. They're twins


Hop on fin

 

[BucketCrab]

OP all I have to say is that you are fucking retarded. There's no such thing as a mature hairline, this is just what scientifically illiterate retarded normies call a NW 0.5 young guy with a square ish hairline that's thinning at the temples. Some lose hair slowly, others rapidly; both are losing hair


Androgenic alopecia is a process, so you can't "diagnose" it unless it's already too late and you need a transplant, and statistically speaking you're most likely gonna lose enough hair by the time you're 30 where it's gonna affect your attractiveness. My father and both granfathers are NW1.5 at 50+ and my brothers are NW3 at 24. They're twins


Hop on fin

The dermatologist didn't say "mature hairline". He only stated there is no visible hair loss and that I shouldn't worry about it.

Also male pattern baldness becomes visible to the eye when roughly 50% of your hair follicles have undergone miniaturization. A dermatoscopy can look if there is miniaturization and diagnose MPB when it is in its very first stages. The horseshoe pattern becomes visible when the hair follicles have miniaturized beyond repair and have already fallen, but it is a slow process.

I'm not going to take finasteride unless it's absolutely necessary. I understand the side effects are grossly overblown, but it makes no sense to risk it when I don't have any hair loss.

 

[MikeMew'sBitch]

He confirmed I only have a "slight androgenetic marking" on my hairline which he said is a totally normal secondary sexual characteristic in males (I guess that is his way of saying "mature hairline" or something). I specifically asked if there's any chance I will go bald, and if I should worry about going bald.

 

[BucketCrab]

Hey, I'm the one who's supposed to have the crabs in a bucket mentality here.

 

[Deleted member 19551]

The dermatologist didn't say "mature hairline". He only stated there is no visible hair loss and that I shouldn't worry about it.

Also male pattern baldness becomes visible to the eye when roughly 50% of your hair follicles have undergone miniaturization. A dermatoscopy can look if there is miniaturization and diagnose MPB when it is in its very first stages. The horseshoe pattern becomes visible when the hair follicles have miniaturized beyond repair and have already fallen, but it is a slow process.

I'm not going to take finasteride unless it's absolutely necessary. I understand the side effects are grossly overblown, but it makes no sense to risk it when I don't have any hair loss.

Didn't read a single fucking iota of literature. Go fuck yourself you pussy.

 

[MikeMew'sBitch]

I tought i was safe from balding because i managed to retain my NW 1 hairline through my 20s with no visible thinning/diffusing. I had no signs of balding until i hit 30 and suddenly my NW1 temples started rapidly receding and thinning untill they receded to the center part behind the widows peak and i realized im balding like a real norwood subhuman. It all happened in the span of 8-10 months. The illusion has been shattered and turns out i have norwood genetics after all, they just activated when i hit 30 instead of 20s when it usually happens. Youll see if you are balding when you hit 30s, if it stays the same through 30s you are safe

 

[thereallegend]

I'm like a NW1-2 at the moment, but it was like this from age 14, hasn't changed at all in 12 years.

View attachment 1755824My hairline looks exactly like this guy's.

You’re balding then

 

[BucketCrab]

I tought i was safe from balding because i managed to retain my NW 1 hairline through my 20s with no visible thinning/diffusing. I had no signs of balding until i hit 30 and suddenly my NW1 temples started rapidly receding and thinning untill they receded to the center part behind the widows peak and i realized im balding like a real norwood subhuman. It all happened in the span of 8-10 months. The illusion has been shattered and turns out i have norwood genetics after all, they just activated when i hit 30 instead of 20s when it usually happens.

My condolences. I will keep checking my hair weekly to make sure it doesn't catch me off-guard.
Sounds really aggressive though, 8 months is a small time frame to develop this much male pattern baldness. You sure it wasn't due to something else? Rapid hair loss is usually not due to MPB, although some things such as stress/disease can speed up MPB dramatically.

 

[BucketCrab]

You’re balding then

It hasn't changed since I was 14, though. It's always had that shape.

 

[MikeMew'sBitch]

My condolences. I will keep checking my hair weekly to make sure it doesn't catch me off-guard.
Sounds really aggressive though, 8 months is a small time frame to develop this much male pattern baldness. You sure it wasn't due to something else? Rapid hair loss is usually not due to MPB, although some things such as stress/disease can speed up MPB dramatically.

Yes, its due to male pattern norwooding. It really is weird that it happened so quick but it was all according to literature. Hair was miniaturizing just as it happens with ordinary norwooding and it was falling exactly in a specific pattern and not randomly. Why it happened so fast i have no idea, i dont smoke, drink and im not under severe stress. I managed to get a decent regrowth by using 5% minoxidil and now its much harder to notice.

 

[BucketCrab]

Yes, its due to male pattern norwooding. It really is weird that it happened so quick but it was all according to literature. Hair was miniaturizing just as it happens with ordinary norwooding and it was falling exactly in a specific pattern and not randomly. Why it happened so fast i have no idea, i dont smoke, drink and im not under severe stress. I managed to get a decent regrowth by using 5% minoxidil and now its much harder to notice.

Yeah as I mentioned in a previous post it can sometimes take some time before miniaturization goes through its process and hair loss becomes visible to the naked eye; it's possible it was miniaturizing for years and it only became visible when you hit age 30.

Did you take steroids by any chance though? I've read those can speed things up.

 

[Prettyboy]

I’m skeptical of the existence of mature hairline that isn’t connected to MPB

 

[BucketCrab]

I’m skeptical of the existence of mature hairline.

He didn't use those words exactly, I just thought his remark sounded similar to what people usually call a mature hairline.

Bottom line is that he did a dermoscopy and he said I shouldn't worry and that he didn't see any signs of balding. So he didn't prescribe finasteride, minoxidil, nothing.

I'm quite confident in his assessment as he's considered among the best dermatologists/trichologists in my area and he's quite expensive. Two of my balding friends went to him when they saw the first signs of norwooding at around age 20 and he put both of them on finasteride right away, so it's not like he doesn't want to prescribe it.

I do understand it could all be wishful thinking, but a professional's opinion is probably more valid than my own paranoid, obsessive daily hairline-checking.

 

[MikeMew'sBitch]

Yeah as I mentioned in a previous post it can sometimes take some time before miniaturization goes through its process and hair loss becomes visible to the naked eye; it's possible it was miniaturizing for years and it only became visible when you hit age 30.

Did you take steroids by any chance though? I've read those can speed things up.

Nope, didnt take any steroids or anything at all. It just suddenly started miniaturizing and progressing to norwood 3. Probably due to increased testosterone to DHT conversion due to my age

 

[Survivor95]

The dermatologist didn't say "mature hairline". He only stated there is no visible hair loss and that I shouldn't worry about it.

Also male pattern baldness becomes visible to the eye when roughly 50% of your hair follicles have undergone miniaturization. A dermatoscopy can look if there is miniaturization and diagnose MPB when it is in its very first stages. The horseshoe pattern becomes visible when the hair follicles have miniaturized beyond repair and have already fallen, but it is a slow process.

I'm not going to take finasteride unless it's absolutely necessary. I understand the side effects are grossly overblown, but it makes no sense to risk it when I don't have any hair loss.

If You keep the hair in your prime years will be awesome, still narcissistic blackpilled guys like me will like have imaculate hair at 80 years old

 

[Marco Polo]

He's trolling you, he wants you to go bald so he'll have less competition

 

[Deleted member 3828]

bluepiled dermatologist lied to you

 

[Deleted member 1332]

OP all I have to say is that you are fucking retarded. There's no such thing as a mature hairline, this is just what scientifically illiterate retarded normies call a NW 0.5 young guy with a square ish hairline that's thinning at the temples. Some lose hair slowly, others rapidly; both are losing hair


Androgenic alopecia is a process, so you can't "diagnose" it unless it's already too late and you need a transplant, and statistically speaking you're most likely gonna lose enough hair by the time you're 30 where it's gonna affect your attractiveness. My father and both granfathers are NW1.5 at 50+ and my brothers are NW3 at 24. They're twins


Hop on fin

Good that someone said it.

"Maturing hairline" is a boomer cope. Most boomers, even boomer doctors, aren't aware of how hairloss actually works.

 

[BucketCrab]

He's trolling you, he wants you to go bald so he'll have less competition

bluepiled dermatologist lied to you

jewish doctor

Right, so when a doctor says you're going bald it means you're going bald.
When he says you're not going bald, it also means you're going bald because he's obviously lying, or wrong .

Is there any possible way to be sure you're not going to go bald except dying at age 100 with NW1?

 

[CometDragon]

I am by no means stopping my weekly hair check. The moment I experience any thinning I will still take immediate measures.

I totally understand the fear (and the relief) you feel. Congrats! BUT do you think it would be better just to take a low dose of Finasteride and just forget about your hair completely? As a preventative measure.

I pay under $10 a month for my fin and other than the cost i just take it and forget about it. I don't get sides and I haven't been checking my hairline as often these days (once I knew it was working ofc).

Idk how anal you are about checking (I was checking multiple times a day) but if your hair is giving you anxiety I would just get it over with, it's worth the cost imo.

 

[agoostis]

same, derma told me i had no sign of baldness despite my norwood 0,5

this was 4 years ago and i still have a full head of hair, the derma was right

 

[Deleted member 17448]

He didn't use those words exactly, I just thought his remark sounded similar to what people usually call a mature hairline.

Bottom line is that he did a dermoscopy and he said I shouldn't worry and that he didn't see any signs of balding. So he didn't prescribe finasteride, minoxidil, nothing.

I'm quite confident in his assessment as he's considered among the best dermatologists/trichologists in my area and he's quite expensive. Two of my balding friends went to him when they saw the first signs of norwooding at around age 20 and he put both of them on finasteride right away, so it's not like he doesn't want to prescribe it.

I do understand it could all be wishful thinking, but a professional's opinion is probably more valid than my own paranoid, obsessive daily hairline-checking.

Dude stop coping. TAKE IT ASAP. Those treatments work BEST as preventive methods. I'm NW1 and I "didn't have any miniaturization" according to my derma and he prescribed me dut and oral min. Lost hair is VERY HARD to grow with medication. Stay safe bro.

 

[BucketCrab]

I totally understand the fear (and the relief) you feel. Congrats! BUT do you think it would be better just to take a low dose of Finasteride and just forget about your hair completely? As a preventative measure.

I pay under $10 a month for my fin and other than the cost i just take it and forget about it. I don't get sides and I haven't been checking my hairline as often these days (once I knew it was working ofc).

Idk how anal you are about checking (I was checking multiple times a day) but if your hair is giving you anxiety I would just get it over with, it's worth the cost imo.

I have been thinking about it, actually. I've also asked him directly if there is something I can take to prevent future hair loss preemptively.

He said Finasteride is the only drug that can do that and that side effects are really rare but that he wouldn't put me on finasteride unless there's a reason to, and since he didn't detect any hair loss, he said it makes no sense to expose me to potential side effects, as unlikely as they are.

What would you say is the ideal low dosage as a preemptive measure though? 0.5mg daily? I think the usual dosage is 1mg.

Dude stop coping. TAKE IT ASAP. Those treatments work BEST as preventive methods. I'm NW1 and I "didn't have any miniaturization" according to my derma and he prescribed me dut and oral min. Lost hair is VERY HARD to grow with medication. Stay safe bro.

Thank you for your concern bro. I will consider it.
By the way is dutasteride already approved? I thought it was still awaiting confirmation since it's more powerful than finasteride.

 

[Deleted member 17448]

I have been thinking about it, actually. I've also asked him directly if there is something I can take to prevent future hair loss preemptively.

He said Finasteride is the only drug that can do that and that side effects are really rare but that he wouldn't put me on finasteride unless there's a reason to, and since he didn't detect any hair loss, he said it makes no sense to expose me to potential side effects, as unlikely as they are.

What would you say is the ideal low dosage as a preemptive measure though? 0.5mg daily? I think the usual dosage is 1mg.


Thank you for your concern bro. I will consider it.
By the way is dutasteride already approved? I thought it was still awaiting confirmation since it's more powerful than finasteride.

In USA I don't know but in Spain is used off label.

 

[eduardkoopman]

They usually won't tell you you are balding until you are pressing NW3 status.

They cope hard yeah

 

[CometDragon]

I have been thinking about it, actually. I've also asked him directly if there is something I can take to prevent future hair loss preemptively.

He said Finasteride is the only drug that can do that and that side effects are really rare but that he wouldn't put me on finasteride unless there's a reason to, and since he didn't detect any hair loss, he said it makes no sense to expose me to potential side effects, as unlikely as they are.

I think that's a fair point to consider from your Dr. It's a personal decision over what would and wouldn't be worth it.

There was a study that compared the effect of different doses of Finasteride. Using 0.2mg daily offered 88% of the scalp DHT suppression as the 1mg dose. But even going as lose as 0.01mg daily still lowered scalp DHT more than placebo. Which makes sense of course since some is better than none.

DEFINE_ME

Personally i used to take 0.25mg (qaurter of a pill) when i had trouble refilling my prescription and it still seemed to maintain the results i had when I was taking 1mg. Big note though I had already taken many weeks of 1mg so I probably still had a fair bit of Finasteride built up in my system.

 

[max_frisch]

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

he just looked at your hairline and said he can't see any balding lol that means nothing

 

[BucketCrab]

he just looked at your hairline and said he can't see any balding lol that means nothing

No idea how you found this super old thread.

Anyways the dermatologist did a scalp dermoscopy, and a hair root + hair miniaturization analysis under a microscope.