DHT GEL: THE ULTIMATE PUBERTYMAXING TOOL (youngcels gtfih)

[Deleted member 115373]

could you make gel with masteron because I have 2 vials of masteron lying around and I dont know what to do with it.

idk

I read through orcs post about this btw

link them if you think he makes good points

 

[Deleted member 115373]

Has potential, but if you put it on your face you might get crazy fucking acne, burns, etc

Already using 2% Ketoconazole shampoo on the scalp, but I'm also going to use it as a face mask 1-2x/week. this should reduce DHT activity on the skin and possibly help with induced hormonal acne, without penetrating into the bone where we want the AR activation

 

[AverageCurryEnjoyer]

idk

link them if you think he makes good points

formulating dht cream.

I am not a medical professional don't take me seriously, these are just schizo ramblings, but I hope they are useful to someone. considering dht cream is just straight up impossible to get in the US I figured I'd write a guide on it, since a lot of people want to use this for bottom growth once...

looksmax.org

 

[Aven]

Hey guys, in this post, we are going to talk about Topical DHT and its application on facial bones during puberty to enhance androgenic development. This topic is surrounded by misconceptions and is often mocked on this forum. Hopefully, I will clear these misconceptions and convince you that DHT gel is the best (and safest) looksmaxing tool outside of heightmaxing for those of us in puberty.

READ THE WHOLE THING YOU INCELS IT TOOK ME 3 HOURS TO TYPE!!


Introduction:

As looksmaxers during the pubertal window, our goals should be:

• Maximize height with HGH + AI (water)
• Softmax and gymmax (more water)
• Maximize androgenicity without sacrificing height gains: a more difficult and controversial topic.

DHT is king for androgenic development:

• It is the main driver for the development of male secondary traits, such as brow ridge, jawline, cheekbones, voice deepening, and libido….
• It is 2-3x more androgenic than testosterone and does not aromatize.

Our goal is to optimize the androgen receptors in these dimorphic areas during development with DHT so that we can look more masculine for the rest of our lives.


Topical DHT is a unique and effective solution that can provide targeted and extremely powerful androgenic effects exactly where we want them.



The evidence:

• Pediatric endocrinology has used topical DHT gel (e.g., Andractim) in small doses to treat micropenis and pubertal delays—with strong local effect and minimal systemic interference at low doses.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...fore_during_and_after_puberty_-_A_case_series

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10619192/

• FTM transgender case studies show localized DHT application leads to clitoral enlargement, suggesting direct tissue growth at application sites.

https://www.folxhealth.com/library/testosterone-bottom-growth
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13016


While human data on aesthetics is limited, the biology makes sense—DHT-sensitive tissues remain responsive during late puberty, especially under the influence of growth hormone (HGH) and IGF-1.



Potential systemic absorption: why it's unlikely and not a problem anyway:

• Topical DHT can enter the bloodstream, mainly when applied to large surface areas or thin skin.
• In studies of older men using 50mg/day Andractim, serum testosterone was suppressed by up to 40–50% over time.
• Small-area facial or laryngeal use (10–20mg/day) will likely result in drastically less systemic absorption.

You might find this counterintuitive at first, but we are not actually relying on testosterone for our goals of androgenicity. Since we are already blocking estrogen (with an AI) and boosting GH and IGF-1 (with HGH), the temporary suppression of testosterone (which would normally be aromatized into estrogen and potentially fuse growth plates) is not only non-problematic, it may actually help preserve your height potential.

Remember: our goal during puberty is strictly to maximize androgenicity and height. Post-puberty, we will shift towards a different protocol focused on muscle hypertrophy like Test and Masteron.

Anyway, if you want to minimize systemic absorption, you should make sure to apply to a limited surface area, avoid application to broken or irritated skin, and use cream-based formulations for slower absorption.



Comparing Topical DHT to other androgenic interventions:

• Proviron: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, and has little to no natural T suppression. It is best used for systemic androgen support.
• Testosterone: aromatizes, works systemically, and has strong natural T suppression. It is best used post-puberty for its broad anabolic and androgenic benefits.
• Masteron / DHT analogs: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, strong natural T suppression. Best used for post-puberty dimorphism.

DHT gel is the only option that offers local androgenic stimulation with minimal estrogenic or anabolic consequences, making it uniquely positioned for facial development during puberty.


The protocol:


a) cream vs. gel:

Creams (typically 5-10% DHT) are more ideal than gels (2.5-5%) because they are gentler and have a slower absorption. The only caveat is that they take longer to dry.


b) application sites:

• Jawline & Ramus: Apply from the chin to the angle of the mandible
• Chin: Apply to increase projection
• Cheekbones: Over the zygomatic arch (light layer, watch out for the eye area)
• Brow Ridge: This is optional. It is a slower-growing area that settles earlier in development and is less malleable.
• Throat / Larynx: Over Adam’s apple to support voice deepening
• Nipples (Gyno treatment): Apply directly to the areola and surrounding gland

c) timing:

1-2x daily: morning or evening.
Apply after cleansing on dry skin
Wait for it to dry before applying other skincare
THOROUGHLY WASH YOUR HANDS



Conclusion:

Topical DHT gel is a scientifically justified, mechanistically sound, and strategically promising option for those pursuing facial masculinization, voice deepening, and selective androgenic enhancement during puberty. Compared to systemic steroids or testosterone, it offers targeted tissue activation without the estrogenic drawbacks.

When used correctly, it supports jaw, chin, and throat development, can help reduce pubertal gynecomastia, and poses no risk of systemic suppression or height loss (especially with estrogen blockade).



Final notes (important):

• DHT gel or cream should be paired with HGH and an AI for a complete puberty-maxing stack.
• MK-677 is optional, I use it.
• It can be complemented with Proviron (25mg) for systemic androgenic tone; I use it. You can check out my thread on Proviron here: https://looksmax.org/threads/high-effort-proviron-a-deep-dive-into-the-most-underrated-and-safest-pubertymaxxing-compound-youngcels-gtfih.1356880/
• Make sure to use 2% ketoconazole shampoo 3x/week for DHT-related scalp protection, and if you are more prone to balding, consider RU58841. Do not take Finasteride or Dutasteride until after puberty because they directly go against everything we are trying to accomplish in our androgenic puberty.

Tagging some people:
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM @chadisbeingmade @halloweed @Clavicular @Jonas2k7 @org3cel.RR @The Homelander @Cyrus @enchanted_elixir @Corpuscula @Newday*V3 @wastedspermcel @HandsomeHustler @Osie @TrueRamirez @Zagro @playxiing @2marc1 @Angutoid @TitusA @Fusionxz @Sociobiology

dnr a single word

 

[übermog]

If you want to look androgenic, forget about piss weak DHT, and run compounds that are way more androgenic and anabolic at the same time.

for example?

 

[übermog]

Please, explain yourself. Why would we run anything that aromatizes? my bone age is 15.5

androgens dont work without estrogens

 

[übermog]

nuking it, but using Arimidex, not Aromasin. it doesn't cross the blood brain barrier so much less risks.

care to elaborate

 

[übermog]

@Leopold_ ok, but, what is the advantage of dht gel over roids like var and nandrolone

 

[übermog]

Unironically Trenbolone or trestolone.

what tren dosage you recommend?

 

[Deleted member 115373]

@Leopold_ ok, but, what is the advantage of dht gel over roids like var and nandrolone

the advantage is extremely clear. instead of taking roads that can have lifelong consequences, and gambling with a possibly weak AR activation where we want it (jaw, chin, cheekbones, Adam's apple), we can target it these points directly from the outside, resulting in much more AR activation where we want it, while keeping side effects infinitely lower than any other steroids

 

[Deleted member 115373]

care to elaborate

For some reason everyone thinks Aromasin is better when Arimidex is what is used in every single endocrinology study and has much more research backing it up. In these studies, they always use a dose of 1mg Arimidex, effectively nuking the estrogen by 80-90%. The difference between Asin and Adex is that Adex is hydrophilic, which means that it can't cross the blood brain barrier. This means that there will still be a normal amount of aromatase enzymes and estrogen in the brain, and therefore less psychological side effects and less brain risks during development

 

[Deleted member 115373]

androgens dont work without estrogens

bro, what? JFL. DHT does not require conversion to estrogen, it just binds to the androgen receptor and can have all of its masculinizing effects without it.

 

[Deleted member 115373]

dnr a single word

forget your ascension buddy

 

[Mike141]

npp also? my current stack is dbol anavar halo npp methenelone acetate

mirin no test base

 

[Deleted member 115373]

bump

 

[Deleted member 115373]

why is this thread not getting more love bruh
do you guys not see the potential in this??

 

[LLcel]

link gel sources

 

[Deleted member 140221]

Hey guys, in this post, we are going to talk about Topical DHT and its application on facial bones during puberty to enhance androgenic development. This topic is surrounded by misconceptions and is often mocked on this forum. Hopefully, I will clear these misconceptions and convince you that DHT gel is the best (and safest) looksmaxing tool outside of heightmaxing for those of us in puberty.

READ THE WHOLE THING YOU INCELS IT TOOK ME 3 HOURS TO TYPE!!


Introduction:

As looksmaxers during the pubertal window, our goals should be:

• Maximize height with HGH + AI (water)
• Softmax and gymmax (more water)
• Maximize androgenicity without sacrificing height gains: a more difficult and controversial topic.

DHT is king for androgenic development:

• It is the main driver for the development of male secondary traits, such as brow ridge, jawline, cheekbones, voice deepening, and libido….
• It is 2-3x more androgenic than testosterone and does not aromatize.

Our goal is to optimize the androgen receptors in these dimorphic areas during development with DHT so that we can look more masculine for the rest of our lives.


Topical DHT is a unique and effective solution that can provide targeted and extremely powerful androgenic effects exactly where we want them.



The evidence:

• Pediatric endocrinology has used topical DHT gel (e.g., Andractim) in small doses to treat micropenis and pubertal delays—with strong local effect and minimal systemic interference at low doses.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...fore_during_and_after_puberty_-_A_case_series

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10619192/

• FTM transgender case studies show localized DHT application leads to clitoral enlargement, suggesting direct tissue growth at application sites.

https://www.folxhealth.com/library/testosterone-bottom-growth
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13016


While human data on aesthetics is limited, the biology makes sense—DHT-sensitive tissues remain responsive during late puberty, especially under the influence of growth hormone (HGH) and IGF-1.



Potential systemic absorption: why it's unlikely and not a problem anyway:

• Topical DHT can enter the bloodstream, mainly when applied to large surface areas or thin skin.
• In studies of older men using 50mg/day Andractim, serum testosterone was suppressed by up to 40–50% over time.
• Small-area facial or laryngeal use (10–20mg/day) will likely result in drastically less systemic absorption.

You might find this counterintuitive at first, but we are not actually relying on testosterone for our goals of androgenicity. Since we are already blocking estrogen (with an AI) and boosting GH and IGF-1 (with HGH), the temporary suppression of testosterone (which would normally be aromatized into estrogen and potentially fuse growth plates) is not only non-problematic, it may actually help preserve your height potential.

Remember: our goal during puberty is strictly to maximize androgenicity and height. Post-puberty, we will shift towards a different protocol focused on muscle hypertrophy like Test and Masteron.

Anyway, if you want to minimize systemic absorption, you should make sure to apply to a limited surface area, avoid application to broken or irritated skin, and use cream-based formulations for slower absorption.



Comparing Topical DHT to other androgenic interventions:

• Proviron: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, and has little to no natural T suppression. It is best used for systemic androgen support.
• Testosterone: aromatizes, works systemically, and has strong natural T suppression. It is best used post-puberty for its broad anabolic and androgenic benefits.
• Masteron / DHT analogs: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, strong natural T suppression. Best used for post-puberty dimorphism.

DHT gel is the only option that offers local androgenic stimulation with minimal estrogenic or anabolic consequences, making it uniquely positioned for facial development during puberty.


The protocol:


a) cream vs. gel:

Creams (typically 5-10% DHT) are more ideal than gels (2.5-5%) because they are gentler and have a slower absorption. The only caveat is that they take longer to dry.


b) application sites:

• Jawline & Ramus: Apply from the chin to the angle of the mandible
• Chin: Apply to increase projection
• Cheekbones: Over the zygomatic arch (light layer, watch out for the eye area)
• Brow Ridge: This is optional. It is a slower-growing area that settles earlier in development and is less malleable.
• Throat / Larynx: Over Adam’s apple to support voice deepening
• Nipples (Gyno treatment): Apply directly to the areola and surrounding gland

c) timing:

1-2x daily: morning or evening.
Apply after cleansing on dry skin
Wait for it to dry before applying other skincare
THOROUGHLY WASH YOUR HANDS



Conclusion:

Topical DHT gel is a scientifically justified, mechanistically sound, and strategically promising option for those pursuing facial masculinization, voice deepening, and selective androgenic enhancement during puberty. Compared to systemic steroids or testosterone, it offers targeted tissue activation without the estrogenic drawbacks.

When used correctly, it supports jaw, chin, and throat development, can help reduce pubertal gynecomastia, and poses no risk of systemic suppression or height loss (especially with estrogen blockade).



Final notes (important):

• DHT gel or cream should be paired with HGH and an AI for a complete puberty-maxing stack.
• MK-677 is optional, I use it.
• It can be complemented with Proviron (25mg) for systemic androgenic tone; I use it. You can check out my thread on Proviron here: https://looksmax.org/threads/high-effort-proviron-a-deep-dive-into-the-most-underrated-and-safest-pubertymaxxing-compound-youngcels-gtfih.1356880/
• Make sure to use 2% ketoconazole shampoo 3x/week for DHT-related scalp protection, and if you are more prone to balding, consider RU58841. Do not take Finasteride or Dutasteride until after puberty because they directly go against everything we are trying to accomplish in our androgenic puberty.

Tagging some people:
@MyDreamIsToBe183CM @chadisbeingmade @halloweed @Clavicular @Jonas2k7 @org3cel.RR @The Homelander @Cyrus @enchanted_elixir @Corpuscula @Newday*V3 @wastedspermcel @HandsomeHustler @Osie @TrueRamirez @Zagro @playxiing @2marc1 @Angutoid @TitusA @Fusionxz @Sociobiology

Thanks, us youngcels will dominate the world with having the knowledge of the uncs except we can use it all of the old farts cant shape their bones no more (brutal agepill) but we have the bones made out of play-doh

 

[Deleted member 115373]

link gel sources

alpha gels for dht gel and "the diktator" for dht cream

 

[übermog]

the advantage is extremely clear. instead of taking roads that can have lifelong consequences, and gambling with a possibly weak AR activation where we want it (jaw, chin, cheekbones, Adam's apple), we can target it these points directly from the outside, resulting in much more AR activation where we want it, while keeping side effects infinitely lower than any other steroids

roids can be taken without sides, dht gel will go systemic either way and also why wouldnt you want systemic androgens, there sso much more than chin browridge

 

[übermog]

mirin no test base

test is dogshit no good effects only side effects

 

[übermog]

bro, what? JFL. DHT does not require conversion to estrogen, it just binds to the androgen receptor and can have all of its masculinizing effects without it.

androgens need estrogens to work

 

[übermog]

alpha gels for dht gel and "the diktator" for dht cream

link

 

[übermog]

why is this thread not getting more love bruh
do you guys not see the potential in this??

Wikipedia tier understanding of pharmacology & endocrinology

 

[Deleted member 115373]

roids can be taken without sides, dht gel will go systemic either way and also why wouldnt you want systemic androgens, there sso much more than chin browridge

I'm doing proviron for systemic, and dht gel for local. Dht gel mostly goes systemic if applied to large surface areas like the forearms for example. A ton of systemic absorption can be minimized by startegically placing small amounts in areas with high levels of ARs. Cream formulations of topical DHT can minimize systemic absorption even further. Also, as I said earlier, if following my full puberty protocol, T suppression is not a bad thing anyway.

 

[Deleted member 115373]

androgens need estrogens to work

no, this is wikipedia tier knowledge JFL. just look it up: DHT doesn’t need estrogen to activate ARs or deliver masculinizing effects.

 

[ectomorpher]

I'm doing proviron for systemic, and dht gel for local. Dht gel mostly goes systemic if applied to large surface areas like the forearms for example. A ton of systemic absorption can be minimized by startegically placing small amounts in areas with high levels of ARs. Cream formulations of topical DHT can minimize systemic absorption even further. Also, as I said earlier, if following my full puberty protocol, T suppression is not a bad thing anyway.

Isn’t proviron too weak ?

 

[Deleted member 115373]

Isn’t proviron too weak ?

You definitely won't see overnight results, but a low dose of Proviron taken long-term has potential to be extremely effective, as well as being the obvious choice when considering safety during the pubertal window. I wouldn't advise anything else, and a stronger protocol can be adopted after growth plates have fused.

 

[übermog]

no, this is wikipedia tier knowledge JFL. just look it up: DHT doesn’t need estrogen to activate ARs or deliver masculinizing effects.

androgens dont work without estrogens, buddy boyo

 

[übermog]

I'm doing proviron for systemic, and dht gel for local. Dht gel mostly goes systemic if applied to large surface areas like the forearms for example. A ton of systemic absorption can be minimized by startegically placing small amounts in areas with high levels of ARs. Cream formulations of topical DHT can minimize systemic absorption even further. Also, as I said earlier, if following my full puberty protocol, T suppression is not a bad thing anyway.

proviron is a bad hormone, it crushes shbg (which you surely know is bad)

 

[Deleted member 115373]

proviron is a bad hormone, it crushes shbg (which you surely know is bad)

dude, you need to seriously check your facts. SHBG binds to testosterone. Proviron lowers SHBG, therefore raising your free testosterone levels.

 

[Deleted member 115373]

androgens dont work without estrogens, buddy boyo

Bro, your argument and the image you attached is on a level of stupidity that is simply unbelievable. simply what the fuck is that AI bullshit.

- the data is from castrated animals that LITERALLY HAVE 0 HORMONES. Of course DHT alone doesn't work well here

- DHT's androgenic effects simply do not require estrogen to thicken the jaw, brow, and facial bones, nor to deepen the voice or promote hair and skin thickening. THESE ARE CAUSED BY THE ANDROGEN RECEPTORS AND ARE INDEPENDENT OF ESTROGEN COMPLETELY

- The "estrogen priming" point only applies to sexual behavior and libido IN CUCKED ANIMALS, not anything remotely related to us our our goals with DHT.

 

[übermog]

Bro, your argument and the image you attached is on a level of stupidity that is simply unbelievable. simply what the fuck is that AI bullshit.

- the data is from castrated animals that LITERALLY HAVE 0 HORMONES. Of course DHT alone doesn't work well here

- DHT's androgenic effects simply do not require estrogen to thicken the jaw, brow, and facial bones, nor to deepen the voice or promote hair and skin thickening. THESE ARE CAUSED BY THE ANDROGEN RECEPTORS AND ARE INDEPENDENT OF ESTROGEN COMPLETELY

- The "estrogen priming" point only applies to sexual behavior and libido IN CUCKED ANIMALS, not anything remotely related to us our our goals with DHT.

can you explain to me why steroid users get acne?

 

[übermog]

dude, you need to seriously check your facts. SHBG binds to testosterone. Proviron lowers SHBG, therefore raising your free testosterone levels.

theres more to it

 

[Deleted member 115373]

can you explain to me why steroid users get acne?

DHT activity in the skin = more oiliness and more acne risks

 

[Deleted member 115373]

theres more to it

can you actually explain why you think low SHBG is a bad thing? look it up. do one minute of research instead of talking out of your ass.

 

[übermog]

can you actually explain why you think low SHBG is a bad thing? look it up. do one minute of research instead of talking out of your ass.

shbg increases androgen receptor sensitivity, shbg transports androgens to the various places of the body, if you dont have shbg, all your androgens, natty or injected will be eliminated a few hours after production, with shbg those androgens remain in the body for later use, you want high shbg, what really matters is androgen receptor sensitivity

 

[übermog]

DHT activity in the skin = more oiliness and more acne risks

wrong, firstly oily skin isnt acne, oily skin is healthy or rather fatty and not oily since animals produce fat and not oil, secondly the fat excreted by the skin is there to cleanse the pores so how could that clog them? its the seed oils injected which need to be detoxed + the disrupted hormone balance

 

[Deleted member 115373]

shbg increases androgen receptor sensitivity, shbg transports androgens to the various places of the body, if you dont have shbg, all your androgens, natty or injected will be eliminated a few hours after production, with shbg those androgens remain in the body for later use, you want high shbg, what really matters is androgen receptor sensitivity

thank you for bringing this up, @übermog , I did more research into SHBG. this is what I found:

what you're right about:
- SHBG is not all bad, it transports T and DHT throughout the body, stabilizes hormone levels by extending half-life, and some studies suggest that SHBG may sensitize androgen receptors, but only the liver and the brain.
- You don't want your SHBG to be too low, because it can lead to faster androgen clearance (especially T, which is less important for our goals, but also DHT to some extent)). Very low SHBG also leads to less "hormonal stability" and more "fluctuations".

what you're wrong about:
- you definitely don't want high SHBG. It binds to T and DHT and will lower both of those hormones in your body, which is counterproductive for our goals. Androgens cannot activate the androgen receptor if they are already bounded to SHBG. High SHBG also means your T is less bioavailable, so even if it's in a good range on paper it will be less effective.
- Androgen clearance from low SHBG is not in issue in our stack. Since we are taking exogenous androgens, we're not relying on our natural hormones and therefore low SHBG is not a concern for lack of androgen activity.

Hope this helps, and you're welcome to continue asking more questions.

 

[Deleted member 115373]

For now, no one has been able to disprove the effectiveness of my proposed pubertymaxing stack

 

[slaters]

For now, no one has been able to disprove the effectiveness of my proposed pubertymaxing stack

Would proviron help with the bloat from hgh ?
I seen a lot of dht derivatives used to dry out the body in bodybuilders

 

[theonlyrealrage]

nuking it, but using Arimidex, not Aromasin. it doesn't cross the blood brain barrier so much less risks. Also working with a real endocrinologist, and 1mg/day is what I've been prescribed.

Blood brain barrier?

 

[theonlyrealrage]

I'm doing proviron for systemic, and dht gel for local. Dht gel mostly goes systemic if applied to large surface areas like the forearms for example. A ton of systemic absorption can be minimized by startegically placing small amounts in areas with high levels of ARs. Cream formulations of topical DHT can minimize systemic absorption even further. Also, as I said earlier, if following my full puberty protocol, T suppression is not a bad thing anyway.

Came to the same conclusion really, probably will stack with proviron too and some test e

 

[Deleted member 115373]

I wouldn't do test if you're still growing, you don't actually want high T bc more will be converted to an estrogen. even if you have an AI its very much counterproductive, and the exogenous androgens will give you all of the masculinization that you will need. Do not focus on anabolic enhancements until after puberty.

 

[Deleted member 115373]

@übermog

 

[Deleted member 129120]

Hey guys, in this post, we are going to talk about Topical DHT and its application on facial bones during puberty to enhance androgenic development. This topic is surrounded by misconceptions and is often mocked on this forum. Hopefully, I will clear these misconceptions and convince you that DHT gel is the best (and safest) looksmaxing tool outside of heightmaxing for those of us in puberty.

READ THE WHOLE THING YOU INCELS IT TOOK ME 3 HOURS TO TYPE!!


Introduction:

As looksmaxers during the pubertal window, our goals should be:

• Maximize height with HGH + AI (water)
• Softmax and gymmax (more water)
• Maximize androgenicity without sacrificing height gains: a more difficult and controversial topic.

DHT is king for androgenic development:

• It is the main driver for the development of male secondary traits, such as brow ridge, jawline, cheekbones, voice deepening, and libido….
• It is 2-3x more androgenic than testosterone and does not aromatize.

Our goal is to optimize the androgen receptors in these dimorphic areas during development with DHT so that we can look more masculine for the rest of our lives.


Topical DHT is a unique and effective solution that can provide targeted and extremely powerful androgenic effects exactly where we want them.



The evidence:

• Pediatric endocrinology has used topical DHT gel (e.g., Andractim) in small doses to treat micropenis and pubertal delays—with strong local effect and minimal systemic interference at low doses.

https://www.researchgate.net/public...fore_during_and_after_puberty_-_A_case_series

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10619192/

• FTM transgender case studies show localized DHT application leads to clitoral enlargement, suggesting direct tissue growth at application sites.

https://www.folxhealth.com/library/testosterone-bottom-growth
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/andr.13016


While human data on aesthetics is limited, the biology makes sense—DHT-sensitive tissues remain responsive during late puberty, especially under the influence of growth hormone (HGH) and IGF-1.



Potential systemic absorption: why it's unlikely and not a problem anyway:

• Topical DHT can enter the bloodstream, mainly when applied to large surface areas or thin skin.
• In studies of older men using 50mg/day Andractim, serum testosterone was suppressed by up to 40–50% over time.
• Small-area facial or laryngeal use (10–20mg/day) will likely result in drastically less systemic absorption.

You might find this counterintuitive at first, but we are not actually relying on testosterone for our goals of androgenicity. Since we are already blocking estrogen (with an AI) and boosting GH and IGF-1 (with HGH), the temporary suppression of testosterone (which would normally be aromatized into estrogen and potentially fuse growth plates) is not only non-problematic, it may actually help preserve your height potential.

Remember: our goal during puberty is strictly to maximize androgenicity and height. Post-puberty, we will shift towards a different protocol focused on muscle hypertrophy like Test and Masteron.

Anyway, if you want to minimize systemic absorption, you should make sure to apply to a limited surface area, avoid application to broken or irritated skin, and use cream-based formulations for slower absorption.



Comparing Topical DHT to other androgenic interventions:

• Proviron: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, and has little to no natural T suppression. It is best used for systemic androgen support.
• Testosterone: aromatizes, works systemically, and has strong natural T suppression. It is best used post-puberty for its broad anabolic and androgenic benefits.
• Masteron / DHT analogs: doesn’t aromatize, works systemically, strong natural T suppression. Best used for post-puberty dimorphism.

DHT gel is the only option that offers local androgenic stimulation with minimal estrogenic or anabolic consequences, making it uniquely positioned for facial development during puberty.


The protocol:


a) cream vs. gel:

Creams (typically 5-10% DHT) are more ideal than gels (2.5-5%) because they are gentler and have a slower absorption. The only caveat is that they take longer to dry.


b) application sites:

• Jawline & Ramus: Apply from the chin to the angle of the mandible
• Chin: Apply to increase projection
• Cheekbones: Over the zygomatic arch (light layer, watch out for the eye area)
• Brow Ridge: This is optional. It is a slower-growing area that settles earlier in development and is less malleable.
• Throat / Larynx: Over Adam’s apple to support voice deepening
• Nipples (Gyno treatment): Apply directly to the areola and surrounding gland

c) timing:

1-2x daily: morning or evening.
Apply after cleansing on dry skin
Wait for it to dry before applying other skincare
THOROUGHLY WASH YOUR HANDS



Conclusion:

Topical DHT gel is a scientifically justified, mechanistically sound, and strategically promising option for those pursuing facial masculinization, voice deepening, and selective androgenic enhancement during puberty. Compared to systemic steroids or testosterone, it offers targeted tissue activation without the estrogenic drawbacks.

When used correctly, it supports jaw, chin, and throat development, can help reduce pubertal gynecomastia, and poses no risk of systemic suppression or height loss (especially with estrogen blockade).



Final notes (important):

• DHT gel or cream should be paired with HGH and an AI for a complete puberty-maxing stack.
• MK-677 is optional, I use it.
• It can be complemented with Proviron (25mg) for systemic androgenic tone; I use it. You can check out my thread on Proviron here: https://looksmax.org/threads/high-effort-proviron-a-deep-dive-into-the-most-underrated-and-safest-pubertymaxxing-compound-youngcels-gtfih.1356880/
• Make sure to use 2% ketoconazole shampoo 3x/week for DHT-related scalp protection, and if you are more prone to balding, consider RU58841. Do not take Finasteride or Dutasteride until after puberty because they directly go against everything we are trying to accomplish in our androgenic puberty.

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[Orc]

dht cream is difficult to source, don't get your hopes up.

it's also complicated to make yourself, mainly because the raws are just as hard to source.

 

[Deleted member 115373]

dht cream is difficult to source, don't get your hopes up.

it's also complicated to make yourself, mainly because the raws are just as hard to source.

@Orc what do you think of alpha gels or the diktator DHT cream? This thread was more about explaining the potential of this sort of protocol rather than discussing sourcing