did Vaush just BTFO all of .org's Blackpill arguments?

[Deleted member 45118]

>Explains how people like you aren't interested in addressing underlying issues affecting men.

>Explains how blackpillers' beliefs about attractiveness and relationships have been skewed by cherry-picked data and misinterpretation.

>Explains how societal pressures and stereotypes contribute to the incel/blackpill mindset.

>Explains how various social and psychological factors, not just looks, influence one's success in dating.

>Explains how misogyny and toxic masculinity perpetuated within incel/blackpill communities contribute to their own issues.

>Explains how some individuals, regardless of appearance, find fulfilling relationships through empathy, communication, and personal growth.

>Explains why the fact that some below average men struggle with dating isn't sufficient evidence to suggest that it's all about looks.

>Everything said in the video is supported by psychological research and expert analysis.

>Provides practical steps and resources for incels to improve their outlook and well-being.


Where is YOUR evidence to back up your baseless claims about attractiveness and relationships? By all means, watch the whole video; I assure you, you can't debunk it.


>inb4 I get told to shut up by someone who hasn't watched the video and is triggered by these FACTS.
>inb4 someone says oppressing women is good.
>inb4 someone suggests enforced relationships.
>inb4 someone uses anecdotal evidence.
>inb4 someone cites dating statistics without an analysis of the broader context or societal factors.
>inb4 someone calls me a beta.
>inb4 someone says "cope" because his incel mind is challenged by a different perspective.

keep the discussion focused and refrain from resorting to the tactics mentioned above in the inb4 section. Be open-minded and engage with the video and discussion WITH SOURCES.

i'm open to having my mind changed, but only with reliable sources that provide a comprehensive substantiation of the claims and account for all the complexities involved.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

He is ugly so I can't take his arguments seriously, this fact alone proves the validity of the blackpill.

 

[Offensive Bias]

Vaush is a moron and unironically has alot in common with .org members considering he may be a pedophile and a homosexual.

 

[sweetheart]

He is ugly so I can't take his arguments seriously, this fact alone proves the validity of the blackpill.

This just means you are an asshole

 

[HarrierDuBois]

This just means you are an asshole

Asshole? No. Rationalist? Yes.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

He is unattractive so I can't take his claims seriously, and this fact alone proves the validity of the blackpill.

 

[sweetheart]

Asshole? No. Rationalist? Yes.

Disregard scientific opinion because of looks of presenter seems rational to me yeah

 

[HarrierDuBois]

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I did not read a single molecule of the original post, TLDR for me his perspective on Jeremy Meeks career.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Vaush is a moron and unironically has alot in common with .org members considering he may be a pedophile and homosexual.

He is sexually successful and clearly more intelligent that 99% of users here.

>Pedophile
Source?

>Homosexual
Nothing wrong with it, its literally 2024

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Disregard scientific opinion because of looks of presenter seems rational to me yeah

Good words are derived out of good brains which rest in good skulls. The universe will not apologize for its rules.

 

[sweetheart]

Good words are derived out of good brains which rest in good skulls. The universe will not apologize for its rules.

Appeal to nature fallacy

 

[New Poster]

Isn't his gf like a 1/10 ethnic landwhale? Ofc he's not going to agree with the blackpill if his standards are in the sewer.

 

[Deleted member 45175]

Why are you so anti blackpill/anti incel when you yourself are a KHHV truecel?

 

[Offensive Bias]

He is sexually successful and clearly more intelligent that 99% of users here.

>Pedophile
Source?

>Homosexual
Nothing wrong with it, its literally 2024

Mr. Clouder on his troll Era.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Isn't his gf like a 1/10 ethnic landwhale? Ofc he's not going to agree with the blackpill if his standards are in the sewer.

He is in an open relationship and has probably been with more attractive women.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Appeal to nature fallacy

No, appeal to nature fallacy insinautes I think this fact is a good thing because it is the law of the universe, I am neutral towards the morality or righteousness of this truth, and ultimately what exists in nature is real.

 

[New Poster]

He is in an open relationship and has probably been with more attractive women.

Why would you be in any relationship with that? It just shows he has low standards. Dating super easy if you're willing to go 2+ points below your looks level.

 

[Deleted member 45175]

He is in an open relationship and has probably been with more attractive women.

You mean his landwhale gf cucks him with better looking guys?

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Why would you be in any relationship with that? It just shows he has low standards. Dating super easy if you're willing to go 2+ points below your looks level.

Most people care more than just looks. Its addressed in the video

 

[sweetheart]

No, appeal to nature fallacy insinautes I think this fact is a good thing because it is the law of the universe, I am neutral towards the morality or righteousness of this truth, and ultimately what exists in nature is real.

Proof the law of universe

 

[Deleted member 72783]

Quintessential soyboy cuck pheno.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Proof the law of universe

 

[Deleted member 46979]

cope=/=won argument. hed have a better argument if he came from a religion perspective. then we know his idiocy would have a basis in dogma rather than the free form npc retardation he has invented

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Good words are derived out of good brains which rest in good skulls. The universe will not apologize for its rules.

>non sequiturs
>subjective variable of goodness

What you just said is a completely incoherent analysis of the factual nature of our universe.

 

[nope]

>Explains how people like you aren't interested in addressing underlying issues affecting men.

>Explains how blackpillers' beliefs about attractiveness and relationships have been skewed by cherry-picked data and misinterpretation.

>Explains how societal pressures and stereotypes contribute to the incel/blackpill mindset.

>Explains how various social and psychological factors, not just looks, influence one's success in dating.

>Explains how misogyny and toxic masculinity perpetuated within incel/blackpill communities contribute to their own issues.

>Explains how some individuals, regardless of appearance, find fulfilling relationships through empathy, communication, and personal growth.

>Explains why the fact that some below average men struggle with dating isn't sufficient evidence to suggest that it's all about looks.

>Everything said in the video is supported by psychological research and expert analysis.

>Provides practical steps and resources for incels to improve their outlook and well-being.


Where is YOUR evidence to back up your baseless claims about attractiveness and relationships? By all means, watch the whole video; I assure you, you can't debunk it.


>inb4 I get told to shut up by someone who hasn't watched the video and is triggered by these FACTS.
>inb4 someone says oppressing women is good.
>inb4 someone suggests enforced relationships.
>inb4 someone uses anecdotal evidence.
>inb4 someone cites dating statistics without an analysis of the broader context or societal factors.
>inb4 someone calls me a beta.
>inb4 someone says "cope" because his incel mind is challenged by a different perspective.

keep the discussion focused and refrain from resorting to the tactics mentioned above in the inb4 section. Be open-minded and engage with the video and discussion WITH SOURCES.

i'm open to having my mind changed, but only with reliable sources that provide a comprehensive substantiation of the claims and account for all the complexities involved.

This is the same nigga who jerk off to horse porn

 

[sweetheart]

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Yes I did

 

[New Poster]

Most people care more than just looks. Its addressed in the video

Your perspective on dating changes radically based on your looks standards. There's no way around this.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

>non sequiturs
>subjective variable of goodness

What you just said is a completely incoherent analysis of the factual nature of our universe.

It's symbolic like poetry and philosophy, if you only grasp at the uppermost layer of it and take what you find your insight will not contain the true point of what was conveyed.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

cope=/=won argument. hed have a better argument if he came from a religion perspective. then we know his idiocy would have a basis in dogma rather than the free form npc retardation he has invented

The blackpill is religious, it has never been proven with real, non misinterpreted data. As i said, by all means, go ahead and provide it for me.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Yes I did

Ni is a reference to Introverted Intuition, one of Carl Jungs 8 cognitive functions, known for unconsciously tying together patterns and insights across the mind and give the user of it knowledge seemingly out of nowhere as the process went on in the unconscious rather than the conscious. Joke here is that the guy knew the answer because his mind already structured it together and he was left with the final product meanwhile verbal communication of its validity is near impossible due to not taking part of the process.

 

[Deleted member 72783]

He is in an open relationship

So he's literally a cuck lmao

 

[6PSLcel]

>Explains how people like you aren't interested in addressing underlying issues affecting men.

>Explains how blackpillers' beliefs about attractiveness and relationships have been skewed by cherry-picked data and misinterpretation.

>Explains how societal pressures and stereotypes contribute to the incel/blackpill mindset.

>Explains how various social and psychological factors, not just looks, influence one's success in dating.

>Explains how misogyny and toxic masculinity perpetuated within incel/blackpill communities contribute to their own issues.

>Explains how some individuals, regardless of appearance, find fulfilling relationships through empathy, communication, and personal growth.

>Explains why the fact that some below average men struggle with dating isn't sufficient evidence to suggest that it's all about looks.

>Everything said in the video is supported by psychological research and expert analysis.

>Provides practical steps and resources for incels to improve their outlook and well-being.


Where is YOUR evidence to back up your baseless claims about attractiveness and relationships? By all means, watch the whole video; I assure you, you can't debunk it.


>inb4 I get told to shut up by someone who hasn't watched the video and is triggered by these FACTS.
>inb4 someone says oppressing women is good.
>inb4 someone suggests enforced relationships.
>inb4 someone uses anecdotal evidence.
>inb4 someone cites dating statistics without an analysis of the broader context or societal factors.
>inb4 someone calls me a beta.
>inb4 someone says "cope" because his incel mind is challenged by a different perspective.

keep the discussion focused and refrain from resorting to the tactics mentioned above in the inb4 section. Be open-minded and engage with the video and discussion WITH SOURCES.

i'm open to having my mind changed, but only with reliable sources that provide a comprehensive substantiation of the claims and account for all the complexities involved.

Dnrd and dnw idc what some fat sub 5 midwit beta says

 

[sweetheart]

Ni is a reference to Introverted Intuition, one of Carl Jungs 8 cognitive functions, known for unconsciously tying together patterns and insights across the mind and give the user of it knowledge seemingly out of nowhere as the process went on in the unconscious rather than the conscious. Joke here is that the guy knew the answer because his mind already structured it together and he was left with the final product meanwhile verbal communication of its validity is near impossible due to not taking part of the process.

I thought ni means niggas and thats just another meme

 

[HarrierDuBois]

I thought ni means niggas and thats just another meme

No, there are 4 fundamental functions and an introverted/extroverted variety of each.
Sensing (Si/Se)
Thinking (Ti/Te)
Feeling (Fi/Fe)
Intuition (Ni/Ne)

 

[Deleted member 45118]

It's symbolic like poetry and philosophy, if you only grasp at the uppermost layer of it and take what you find your insight will not contain the true point of what was conveyed.

The only thing it symbolizes is the fact that you use your bare intuition as a fact checker, when human intuition or perception of the surrounding world isnt reliable at all. And its not poetry, you wrote out what i just described, but with an anaphora shoved in to make it seem poetic.

Philosophy isnt symbolic

 

[HarrierDuBois]

keep the discussion focused and refrain from resorting to the tactics mentioned above in the inb4 section. Be open-minded and engage with the video and discussion WITH SOURCES.

What is his argument for not having a stacy girlfriend it it's not all about looks?

 

[Deleted member 45118]

So he's literally a cuck lmao

He can date other women too so its equal, i wouldnt call it cucked.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

The only thing it symbolizes is the fact that you use your bare intuition as a fact checker, when human intuition or perception of the surrounding world isnt reliable at all. And its not poetry, you wrote out what i just described, but with an anaphora shoved in to make it seem poetic.

Philosophy isnt symbolic

Have you read philosophy? Most use extreme amounts of symbolism due to the nature of their insights being something hard to grasp in a tangible way.

 

[Deleted member 46979]

vaush and all ugly as fuck oofy doofy incel-in-denial like him are completely terrified of the implications of the blackpill as applied to his life. this is why they cope. this is why they all cope.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

What is his argument for not having a stacy girlfriend it its all not about looks?

Why should he have one? Do you believe all humans want a stacy girlfriend? How do you know he doesnt have ONS with stacies?

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Why should he have one? Do you believe all humans want a stacy girlfriend? How do you know he doesnt have ONS with stacies?

ONS means nothing as the woman does not want your babies. The only way a woman genuinely loves and desires you is if she wants a baby with you. Humans are drawn to higher genetic quality individuals so anyone with a brain that is not malfunctioning would be as well.

 

[Deleted member 46979]

He can date other women too so its equal, i wouldnt call it cucked.

he can't because he has no power. i don't understand why normies find it so hard to accept that they are genetic shit not fit to breed. once you accept this, you can accept the premise of the blackpill with no reservations.

 

[longjohnmong]

No, there are 4 fundamental functions and an introverted/extroverted variety of each.
Sensing (Si/Se)
Thinking (Ti/Te)
Feeling (Fi/Fe)
Intuition (Ni/Ne)

foid science. go buy some crystals while you're at it

 

[HarrierDuBois]

The only thing it symbolizes is the fact that you use your bare intuition as a fact checker

Well yeah Ni is my dominant cognitive function so obviously I am, that's how my stack looks. Also it does work very well for me to synthesize information and understand the big picture, the context of it all, I would recommend more people to use intuition in their stacks (not that it's an option).

 

[HarrierDuBois]

foid science. go buy some crystals while you're at it

Jungian theory is not "foid science." Wouldn't expect a higher IQ take from someone who chose to get botched by a noname surgeon though.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Have you read philosophy? Most use extreme amounts of symbolism due to the nature of their insights being something hard to grasp in a tangible way.

How would symbolism make it easier to grasp? And why would it be used in a philosophical text of all things?
Its the complete opposite.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

How would symbolism make it easier to grasp?

Because words are created to describe things we know, and since philosophy many times speaks of things which we do not know. To portray the concept - if it is very abstract - through symbolic representation is a very smooth way to make people understand it. Like Nietzsche said: What can not be said with reason you must say with emotions i.e make the reader FEEL your idea if they can't understand it.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Jungian theory is not "foid science." Wouldn't expect a higher IQ take from someone who chose to get botched by a noname surgeon though.

Its literally pseudopsychology LMFAOO

"Jungian analytical psychology: Most of Jung's work is based in the belief that the collective unconscious contains archetypes, universal mental predispositions not grounded in experience that exist independently of the sensation world and are known directly by the mind. Those "theories" are not empirically testable nor falsifiable.[6]"

Pseudopsychology

Pseudopsychology refers to pseudoscientific formulations of psychology. Although psychology has increasingly become associated with cognitive science in recent times, there is still no general unifying theory of psychology. This makes the demarcation problem in the field more difficult to...

rationalwiki.org

 

[longjohnmong]

Jungian theory is not "foid science."

lol. it absolutely is

 

[Deleted member 46979]

Its literally pseudopsychology LMFAOO

"Jungian analytical psychology: Most of Jung's work is based in the belief that the collective unconscious contains archetypes, universal mental predispositions not grounded in experience that exist independently of the sensation world and are known directly by the mind. Those "theories" are not empirically testable nor falsifiable.[6]"

Pseudopsychology

Pseudopsychology refers to pseudoscientific formulations of psychology. Although psychology has increasingly become associated with cognitive science in recent times, there is still no general unifying theory of psychology. This makes the demarcation problem in the field more difficult to...

rationalwiki.org

all social sciences are pseudo science, the modern standards for regular soyence also place it in the realm of pseudoscience