did Vaush just BTFO all of .org's Blackpill arguments?

[Marsiere214]

people are their truest selves when no one is watching.

 

[wollet2]

You never needed to be a mogger to get in relationships. You need to be a mogger to fuck a new woman every week from dating apps or the bar.

this doesnt mean anything
how attractive the woman in relationship will be
what do u need to look like, how much effort do you need to put into getting one
will it be sexually exclusive, how long will it last, will you get cucked
how interested will she be on u on a daily basis



how rare is 'mogger', jfl if u think thats someone like david gandy or maher (maher looks like a maxxed albanian construction worker chad btw)
avg guys like these can fuck multiple women per week

 

[Marsiere214]

edit: double post.

 

[Kingkellz]

edit: double post.

 

[Marsiere214]

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good old days man, good ol days.
i wonder what hes up to.

 

[Bonecel01]

Most bluepilled normies (most young men) are also single so this counts to the blackpill, most attractive women are not single (they are dating more men) another blackpill, more ugly people get ignored in dating apps and social media overall and only pretty people go viral (another blackpill) society values more exterior things like money, popularity and looks (another pill), most women nowadays don't wanna have kids early and they want the husband to earn more or the same as them (a RP) due to economic problems. Pretty people have more chance to get job opportunities and friends (classic BP). Women still like masculine even in an era filled up with weak and useless men (proves female nature = hypergamy). Women don't approach men, they only would want GL guys on social media and IRL (empiric proof). The average man is not sexually attractive (common sense). Men work in the least desired jobs with the lowest wages. Men are often alone more than women. Hypergamy explains the contradiction between age preferences in dating: men date young women and viceversa. Marriages fail more than ever (also due to hook up culture). A depressed-sick society...

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Vaush is right.

You never needed to be a mogger to get in relationships. You need to be a mogger to fuck a new woman every week from dating apps or the bar.

The black pill is completely true if you look at certain demographics and untrue when you look at others. People here do not understand this because they're retarded non neurotypical fucks.

>good looking guy claims it's all about personality

 

[URL code]

Nah probably is, his porn folder was full of lolis. He said he thought they were 'shortstacks'

Nothing wrong with that, its just drawings though.

loli =/= probably pedophile, you can say it increases the chance for sure but it doesnt make it probable

 

[URL code]

Vaush is right.

You never needed to be a mogger to get in relationships. You need to be a mogger to fuck a new woman every week from dating apps or the bar.

The black pill is completely true if you look at certain demographics and untrue when you look at others. People here do not understand this because they're retarded non neurotypical fucks.

That stops being the blackpill and starts being commons sense, because most people dont deny looks play a role. And its not "blackpill" - theres nothing blackpilling about the fact that when talking about relationships that involve nothing but looks i.e. a ONS, looks hold a much higher weight in the equation of SMV.

 

[URL code]

That's not the same thing! A man having many partners and a woman is very different. A man gets higher value the more he sleeps around, whereas for women it's the inverse.

how does it add or subtract value?

 

[einzigartig]

Asshole? No. Rationalist? Yes.

cringe

 

[Eriot Lodger]

how does it add or subtract value?

A man having many sexual encounters only adds to his attractiveness. Women look at him and think "what a stud, he must really have it going for him". If a man never gets sex they assume there must be something wrong with him.

For women it's the opposite. If she has double digit bodycount then guys think she's a slut and it subtracts from their willingness to engage with her, especially in a committed relationship.

 

[ManletJordanBarrett]

>Explains how people like you aren't interested in addressing underlying issues affecting men.

>Explains how blackpillers' beliefs about attractiveness and relationships have been skewed by cherry-picked data and misinterpretation.

>Explains how societal pressures and stereotypes contribute to the incel/blackpill mindset.

>Explains how various social and psychological factors, not just looks, influence one's success in dating.

>Explains how misogyny and toxic masculinity perpetuated within incel/blackpill communities contribute to their own issues.

>Explains how some individuals, regardless of appearance, find fulfilling relationships through empathy, communication, and personal growth.

>Explains why the fact that some below average men struggle with dating isn't sufficient evidence to suggest that it's all about looks.

>Everything said in the video is supported by psychological research and expert analysis.

>Provides practical steps and resources for incels to improve their outlook and well-being.


Where is YOUR evidence to back up your baseless claims about attractiveness and relationships? By all means, watch the whole video; I assure you, you can't debunk it.


>inb4 I get told to shut up by someone who hasn't watched the video and is triggered by these FACTS.
>inb4 someone says oppressing women is good.
>inb4 someone suggests enforced relationships.
>inb4 someone uses anecdotal evidence.
>inb4 someone cites dating statistics without an analysis of the broader context or societal factors.
>inb4 someone calls me a beta.
>inb4 someone says "cope" because his incel mind is challenged by a different perspective.

keep the discussion focused and refrain from resorting to the tactics mentioned above in the inb4 section. Be open-minded and engage with the video and discussion WITH SOURCES.

i'm open to having my mind changed, but only with reliable sources that provide a comprehensive substantiation of the claims and account for all the complexities involved.

Not watching that shit

 

[northern mogger]

all chads have roped after this dropped, over

 

[URL code]

Most bluepilled normies (most young men) are also single so this counts to the blackpill

Source? How different is the number from the one for women? Proof that its due to looks?

most attractive women are not single (they are dating more men) another blackpill

proof that its higher than for attractive men?

more ugly people get ignored in dating apps and social media overall and only pretty people go viral (another blackpill)

>dating apps which are meant to isolate mate finding down to looks only
>looks end up mattering a lot

your 2nd point is way too vague, you can def go viral due to attractiveness but its not the *only* way
most people get ignored on social media, period

society values more exterior things like money, popularity and looks (another pill)

thats not blackpilled, and popularity isnt anymore exterior than a good moral character lmao

most women nowadays don't wanna have kids early and they want the husband to earn more or the same as them (a RP) due to economic problems

most men dont want to have kids early as well
and wanting your husband to earn more isnt related to the blackpill nor is it necessarily caused by "women's nature" or some other bullshit, it can be cultural

Pretty people have more chance to get job opportunities and friends (classic BP).

What about more extroverted, more intelligent, etc.etc. people? Do you have any data on that or we're just gonna look at what suits the narrative.
I'd say people's looks largely cause them to behave and make choices according to a blackpill mindset in a way where it ends up being a self fulfilling prophecy.

Women still like masculine even in an era filled up with weak and useless men (proves female nature = hypergamy).

Are you being vague on purpose? How masculine exactly? And How the fuck does this prove hypergamy??? If society was filled with ogre men then it would stop being hypergamy - so its not in their nature

Women don't approach men

Cultural

they only would want GL guys on social media and IRL (empiric proof)

more vague points
idk why im arguing with this when you cant even take a strong position on anything
there are women IRL with non GL guys therefore wrong

 

[URL code]

A man having many sexual encounters only adds to his attractiveness. Women look at him and think "what a stud, he must really have it going for him". If a man never gets sex they assume there must be something wrong with him.

For women it's the opposite. If she has double digit bodycount then guys think she's a slut and it subtracts from their willingness to engage with her, especially in a committed relationship.

What if vaush believes that whenever women sleep around with a ton of men it adds to their value? Then for him, in his relationship, its not any different from the man doing the same

What you just described isnt a law of the universe, its a cultural belief that depends on any given individual buying into it for it to apply to him and his relationship

 

[Eriot Lodger]

What if vaush believes that whenever women sleep around with a ton of men it adds to their value? Then for him, in his relationship, its not any different from the man doing the same

What you just described isnt a law of the universe, its a cultural belief that depends on any given individual buying into it for it to apply to him and his relationship

No, this is natural law and totally universal all throughout time and culture.

 

[URL code]

No, this is natural law and totally universal all throughout time and culture.

And yet its being reversed in the modern age which is why women are more comfortable with having higher bodycounts

Seems like its not a natural law

 

[Eriot Lodger]

And yet its being reversed in the modern age which is why women are more comfortable with having higher bodycounts

Seems like its not a natural law

I think you misunderstand.

What I'm saying is it's natural law for men to prefer women with lower bodycounts.

 

[URL code]

I think you misunderstand.

What I'm saying is it's natural law for men to prefer women with lower bodycounts.

And im saying its not, since that preference is changing in the modern age (leading to women being more comfortable with subverting it)

 

[Eriot Lodger]

And im saying its not, since that preference is changing in the modern age (leading to women being more comfortable with subverting it)

Well, your wrong. Jew mastermind and narcissistic psychopath Sam Vaknin says that men will always feel an aversion towards sluts.

 

[URL code]

Well, your wrong. Jew mastermind and narcissistic psychopath Sam Vaknin says that men will always feel an aversion towards sluts.

Im not arguing with Sam Vaknin, do YOU have any arguments for that or?

 

[Eriot Lodger]

Im not arguing with Sam Vaknin, do YOU have any arguments for that or?

It's a little hard to make a logics based argument on it since it isn't always based on purely logical reasons. It's like providing hard data for why you're in love with someone.

But you could say it makes sense evolutionarily that men would want a faithful woman that is willing to put full focus into raising that males offspring (one that is often referred to here as hqnp). Women who sleep around a lot often develop emotional problems and problems with attachment.

You can just ask men. Just make sure there are no women around or they may virtue signal and give a more bluepilled answer to appease the women.

 

[URL code]

It's a little hard to make a logics based argument on it since it isn't always based on purely logical reasons. It's like providing hard data for why you're in love with someone.

Thats not analogous. Not having an understanding of the psychology behind a personal feeling of yours, and in turn not being able to communicate it to an external party, is much different from making a claim about a law of nature. The latter can only arrived at through reasoning, you can't just feel it.

But you could say it makes sense evolutionarily that men would want a faithful woman that is willing to put full focus into raising that males offspring (one that is often referred to here as hqnp). Women who sleep around a lot often develop emotional problems and problems with attachment.

But this hypothetical hardcoded instinct in men only makes sense in a natural setting and breaks down in modern society. You can easily have sex with dozens of people before deciding to focus on raising children. And men can gauge how faithful a woman is without using this obsolete proxy of "bodycount". How attached she is to you, even more-so.

You can just ask men. Just make sure there are no women around or they may virtue signal and give a more bluepilled answer the appease the women.

But if i ask Vaush he'll tell me he doesnt care about bodycount. I guess anyone who disagrees with my theory is lying. Btw the theory can only be tested by asking people and seeing if their answer supports it.
Also this doesn't prove its a natural law, and i'm sure if i were to ask men in saudi arabia vs men in sweden vs men in japan, i'd get very different answers. If i go back 50, 100, 1000 years i'm sure the same will apply. Hence your natural law can be subverted.

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

That stops being the blackpill and starts being commons sense, because most people dont deny looks play a role. And its not "blackpill" - theres nothing blackpilling about the fact that when talking about relationships that involve nothing but looks i.e. a ONS, looks hold a much higher weight in the equation of SMV.

What if I want a ONS or casual sex. Then I'm fucked, right?

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

there are women IRL with non GL guys therefore wrong

What is the quality of those women? I'm not talking about that short balding slayer friend who somehow ended up with a stacy that everyone on the internet supposedly knows. I'm talking about in general, what is the looks level of those women? And how do they compare to the gf of the resident chad?

You also know nothing of the quality of their relationships. What is the woman in that supposed relationship thinking? Is she using him for money? Is she fantasizing about her chad ex? I would posit an argument that this happens more frequently with women that are with ugly men than with women that are with good looking men.

 

[SubhumanCurrycel]

I needn’t say more

 

[URL code]

What if I want a ONS or casual sex. Then I'm fucked, right?

the guy i was responding to mentioned slaying women every week, which yeah is def more looks heavy
but i guess you can improve your looks as much as possible + if you do it the IRL route (less looks heavy than online dating) you need social skills which is entirely different from blackpill beliefs

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

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I needn’t say more

Who the fuck is that monster?

I wonder what came first. The bluepill cope or his inclusion of that monstrosity into her life? Does he bluepill cope because he ended up with that gargantuan? Or is he with that gargantuan because he was a bluepill cuck to begin with?

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

the guy i was responding to mentioned slaying women every week, which yeah is def more looks heavy
but i guess you can improve your looks as much as possible + if you do it the IRL route (less looks heavy than online dating) you need social skills which is entirely different from blackpill beliefs

Then are you arguing that anyone can make it to the point of slaying high quality women every week provided that they work hard enough?

 

[Eriot Lodger]

Thats not analogous. Not having an understanding of the psychology behind a personal feeling of yours, and in turn not being able to communicate it to an external party, is much different from making a claim about a law of nature. The latter can only arrived at through reasoning, you can't just feel it.

But this hypothetical hardcoded instinct in men only makes sense in a natural setting and breaks down in modern society. You can easily have sex with dozens of people before deciding to focus on raising children. And men can gauge how faithful a woman is without using this obsolete proxy of "bodycount". How attached she is to you, even more-so.

But if i ask Vaush he'll tell me he doesnt care about bodycount. I guess anyone who disagrees with my theory is lying. Btw the theory can only be tested by asking people and seeing if their answer supports it.
Also this doesn't prove its a natural law, and i'm sure if i were to ask men in saudi arabia vs men in sweden vs men in japan, i'd get very different answers. If i go back 50, 100, 1000 years i'm sure the same will apply. Hence your natural law can be subverted.

Our brains haven't evolved to adapt to modern conditions. This is e.g. the reason why we still crave sugar, even though sugar is now incredibly easy to access for anyone living in a first world country.

Vaush has to cater to a leftist audience by denying basic natural and biological facts and it's highly plausible he also does this to seem more likeable to women. I'm sure there are exceptions i.e. men who would want to settle down with a promiscuous woman; cucks, simps, beta males etc., but even then it's usually a matter of these men not being able to attain their optimal relationship.

 

[Imretarded?]

>good looking guy claims it's all about personality

nigga what? I said the importance depends on what you're trying to do. It's never totally irrelevant but its also never totally the whole picture

That stops being the blackpill and starts being commons sense, because most people dont deny looks play a role. And its not "blackpill" - theres nothing blackpilling about the fact that when talking about relationships that involve nothing but looks i.e. a ONS, looks hold a much higher weight in the equation of SMV.

blackpiller =
looksmaxxer =

I wouldnt say I have a black pilled philosophy, I treat people the same I always have, I just make sure I put effort in improving my looks because I understand on an intellectual level that it can help a lot in life.

I dont think women are whores for being picky on looks (thats the opposite of being a whore lol), I recognize I as a man have been doing the same thing to them.

 

[URL code]

What is the quality of those women? I'm not talking about that short balding slayer friend who somehow ended up with a stacy that everyone on the internet supposedly knows. I'm talking about in general, what is the looks level of those women? And how do they compare to the gf of the resident chad?

You also know nothing of the quality of their relationships. What is the woman in that supposed relationship thinking? Is she using him for money? Is she fantasizing about her chad ex? I would posit an argument that this happens more frequently with women that are with ugly men than with women that are with good looking men.

How is this blackpill??? Their looks are similar to their husband's on average, so for chad's gfs the average would be higher.
However this is completely different from the extreme statement the other guy made - "they only would want GL guys on social media and IRL" i just explained why its not "only" GL guys. Therefore no single person can use that argument as definitive proof they themselves cant get a GF.

Nobody denies that looks are a factor in dating, bluepillers simply deny it having a weight of 0.9+ or whatever the blackpill claims. If bluepillers say it has a weight of 0.3 for example, then no shit looks levels would correlate between the genders.

You also know nothing of the quality of their relationships. What is the woman in that supposed relationship thinking? Is she using him for money? Is she fantasizing about her chad ex? I would posit an argument that this happens more frequently with women that are with ugly men than with women that are with good looking men.

Again, this isn't proving your blackpill shit at all. This is what you would expect to happen statistically when you restrict one of the factors in SMV to it's bottom 10% value, regardless of how significant the factor is.

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

How is this blackpill??? Their looks are similar to their husband's on average, so for chad's gfs the average would be higher.
However this is completely different from the extreme statement the other guy made - "they only would want GL guys on social media and IRL" i just explained why its not "only" GL guys. Therefore no single person can use that argument as definitive proof they themselves cant get a GF.

Nobody denies that looks are a factor in dating, bluepillers simply deny it having a weight of 0.9+ or whatever the blackpill claims. If bluepillers say it has a weight of 0.3 for example, then no shit looks levels would correlate between the genders.



Again, this isn't proving your blackpill shit at all. This is what you would expect to happen statistically when you restrict one of the factors in SMV to it's bottom 10% value, regardless of how significant the factor is.

I think you and I have a different view of what the blackpill is. I can walk down the street and pick up landwhales I see and make her my gf if I approach enough of them, no problem. But that's not what I want for myself. What I'm arguing is that the weight of looks overpowers any effort I can feasibly invest in myself to ascend to the level that I want.

And it's not just about dating. How we are treated by society in general is determined by looks a lot more than we're willing to admit.

 

[URL code]

Then are you arguing that anyone can make it to the point of slaying high quality women every week provided that they work hard enough?

Highly depends on what you mean by "can". If a 5'2 balding autistic indian man wanted to slay stacies? I mean he'd have to go to extraordinary measures to do so, to the point where i dont think he'd even consider it worth the results.

Nobody claims you can realistically slay stacies as a bottom 1% guy tho, this doesnt have anything to do with bluepill beliefs

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

Highly depends on what you mean by "can". If a 5'2 balding autistic indian man wanted to slay stacies? I mean he'd have to go to extraordinary measures to do so, to the point where i dont think he'd even consider it worth the results.

Nobody claims you can realistically slay stacies as a bottom 1% guy tho, this doesnt have anything to do with bluepill beliefs

Then correct me if I'm wrong. The bluepill means that anyone can have a decent relationship provided that they work on themselves enough.

But what does someone who wants more than that do according to the bluepill? Also, that indian man has no chance of ascension, you and I both know this you don't have to lie about it here.

 

[URL code]

Our brains haven't evolved to adapt to modern conditions. This is e.g. the reason why we still crave sugar, even though sugar is now incredibly easy to access for anyone living in a first world country.

Bodycount isnt a sensory perception like sweetness though, its not even observable. Its something you conceptualize in the context of your environment and society, based on which your brain can come to very different conclusions. Having a high bodycount in prehistory probably meant you abandoned your children or couldnt keep them alive multiple times. In the modern age it means you had fun multiple times. The concept of a bodycount communicates completely different things in the two contexts. Its literally why i asked you this:

lso this doesn't prove its a natural law, and i'm sure if i were to ask men in saudi arabia vs men in sweden vs men in japan, i'd get very different answers. If i go back 50, 100, 1000 years i'm sure the same will apply. Hence your natural law can be subverted.

Do you seriously think we'd get relatively identical answers? And i mean the % of people who dont care at all, and for those who do - what's the average amount of impact it has on their perception of women? What do they consider a high bodycount? Literally all of these would differ massively, and it makes sense considering there are people who think showing skin on your ankles is promiscuity while others dont care about bodycounts of a few dozens.

 

[URL code]

I think you and I have a different view of what the blackpill is. I can walk down the street and pick up landwhales I see and make her my gf if I approach enough of them, no problem. But that's not what I want for myself. What I'm arguing is that the weight of looks overpowers any effort I can feasibly invest in myself to ascend to the level that I want.

And it's not just about dating. How we are treated by society in general is determined by looks a lot more than we're willing to admit.

Then you have unreasonable expectations and your views have nothing to do with the blackpill. Not being able to get women who are consistently more attractive than you with 0 effort isnt some great injustice worth being labeled as a blackpill.

 

[Eriot Lodger]

Bodycount isnt a sensory perception like sweetness though, its not even observable. Its something you conceptualize in the context of your environment and society, based on which your brain can come to very different conclusions. Having a high bodycount in prehistory probably meant you abandoned your children or couldnt keep them alive multiple times. In the modern age it means you had fun multiple times. The concept of a bodycount communicates completely different things in the two contexts. Its literally why i asked you this:


Do you seriously think we'd get relatively identical answers? And i mean the % of people who dont care at all, and for those who do - what's the average amount of impact it has on their perception of women? What do they consider a high bodycount? Literally all of these would differ massively, and it makes sense considering there are people who think showing skin on your ankles is promiscuity while others dont care about bodycounts of a few dozens.

Now you're replying to your own comment. Anyway I made a poll and it shows that most people out of the sample clearly agree with me.

Would you wife a hoe?

Well, would you? @URL code thinks our modern society has altered men's perception and affect in regards to their desire to engage in committed relationships with previously or currently promiscuous women. I disagree, but let's see some honest opinions!

looksmax.org

Furthermore, you're a sissy who likes to put rainbow dildos in your ass so I don't know why your opinion would serve as a relevant source of information to the subject matter at hand.

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

Then you have unreasonable expectations and your views have nothing to do with the blackpill. Not being able to get women who are consistently more attractive than you with 0 effort isnt some great injustice worth being labeled as a blackpill.

I'm saying that the effort you put into doing that doesn't actually do anything for you. You'll eventually crash and burn as a result of investing in something that netted zero profit for you.

 

[URL code]

But what does someone who wants more than that do according to the bluepill?

Both pill ideologies assume reasonable desires and im sure both would tell you to adjust them or to accept that youre at a unique disadvantage theyre not concerned with.

Also, that indian man has no chance of ascension, you and I both know this you don't have to lie about it here.

Are we talking about slaying stacies here?
Logistically he does have a chance, its a question of whether anyone would bother to try hard enough. Logistically getting leg lengthening and a dozen plastic surgeries is possible, realistically its not if youre poor, nobody would bother to go to such extra-ordinate efforts for pussy.

 

[URL code]

Now you're replying to your own comment. Anyway I made a poll and it shows that most people out of the sample clearly agree with me.

Would you wife a hoe?

Well, would you? @URL code thinks our modern society has altered men's perception and affect in regards to their desire to engage in committed relationships with previously or currently promiscuous women. I disagree, but let's see some honest opinions!

looksmax.org

Furthermore, you're a sissy who likes to put rainbow dildos in your ass so I don't know why your opinion would serve as a relevant source of information to the subject matter at hand.

Read the comment genius, i was fucking quoting myself, not replying.

Just say youve ran out of arguments and go

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

Both pill ideologies assume reasonable desires and im sure both would tell you to adjust them or to accept that youre at a unique disadvantage theyre not concerned with.

Are we talking about slaying stacies here?
Logistically he does have a chance, its a question of whether anyone would bother to try hard enough. Logistically getting leg lengthening and a dozen plastic surgeries is possible, realistically its not if youre poor, nobody would bother to go to such extra-ordinate efforts for pussy.

The bluepill then acknowledges that there are disadvantages that cannot be surpassed? I think we just have different definitions of these pills. That or you're changing the argument.

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

Read the comment genius, i was fucking quoting myself, not replying.

Just say youve ran out of arguments and go

Yeah, I think society in general looks down upon women who sleep around too much. I mean, why is it that in general (scientifically proven) that women deflate their body counts? If it's so great for their SMV to sleep around.

 

[URL code]

I'm saying that the effort you put into doing that doesn't actually do anything for you. You'll eventually crash and burn as a result of investing in something that netted zero profit for you.

So youre denying the entire variable of "effort"?
Do you believe someone who doesnt bother to try at all has the same chances as someone who's extroverted and popular, who goes to social events all the time and uses all the dating apps? But the guy who doesnt speak to women at all has the same chance, because muh looks! Looks overpower all effort!

If not youre gonna have to define some boundaries for where effort starts to plateau.

 

[URL code]

The bluepill then acknowledges that there are disadvantages that cannot be surpassed? I think we just have different definitions of these pills. That or you're changing the argument.

Do you think any "bluepiller", whether self proclaimed or not, has ever said something like "a midget burn victim in a wheelchair can date a supermodel with enough effort"?
I feel like the blackpill is just one giant strawman which it uses as justification to take it's views to the extreme

 

[KpopmaxxingGuy]

So youre denying the entire variable of "effort"?
Do you believe someone who doesnt bother to try at all has the same chances as someone who's extroverted and popular, who goes to social events all the time and uses all the dating apps? But the guy who doesnt speak to women at all has the same chance, because muh looks! Looks overpower all effort!

If not youre gonna have to define some boundaries for where effort starts to plateau.

Good point. I'm not denying that sitting around in the basement not showering for weeks will looksmin you hard.

But what I am saying is that a non-looksminned chad who goes to the club every week and nothing else will have more opportunities than the super social manlet. And that manlet can never be social enough or jacked off enough to get the results our non-looksminned chad has.

 

[Eriot Lodger]

Read the comment genius, i was fucking quoting myself, not replying.

Just say youve ran out of arguments and go

The hole religion of Islam is based on incentivizing men to act in accordance with its commandments in order to be rewarded 72 virgins. I gave you a poll, provided a YouTube video and referenced a top psychologist. How much evidence do you want? Do you need proof that the sky is blue too? I would tell you to just leave the basement, but that would be rude. Others adviced me not to take you too seriously, so idk you might just be trolling.

 

[URL code]

Yeah, I think society in general looks down upon women who sleep around too much. I mean, why is it that in general (scientifically proven) that women deflate their body counts? If it's so great for their SMV to sleep around.

Cool. But no one disagrees with this and it wasnt a point of contention when i argued with the other guy

 

[HarrierDuBois]

nigga what? I said the importance depends on what you're trying to do. It's never totally irrelevant but its also never totally the whole picture

Your perspective would be different if you were ugly.