did Vaush just BTFO all of .org's Blackpill arguments?

[HarrierDuBois]

Its literally pseudopsychology LMFAOO

"Jungian analytical psychology: Most of Jung's work is based in the belief that the collective unconscious contains archetypes, universal mental predispositions not grounded in experience that exist independently of the sensation world and are known directly by the mind. Those "theories" are not empirically testable nor falsifiable.[6]"

Pseudopsychology

Pseudopsychology refers to pseudoscientific formulations of psychology. Although psychology has increasingly become associated with cognitive science in recent times, there is still no general unifying theory of psychology. This makes the demarcation problem in the field more difficult to...

rationalwiki.org

Almost all psychology is "pseudo" by the metrics used in other fields since you cannot actually measure the things inside our heads. A better testament to a psychological thesis' validity would be, can anyone disprove it. And since no one out of 8 billion people have stepped up and said; "I do not have any of these 8 functions presented, I have a 9th which manifests like this" it is easy to note that in praxis it holds up as a reality.

 

[uglysub8male]

He is sexually successful and clearly more intelligent that 99% of users here.

>Pedophile
Source?

>Homosexual
Nothing wrong with it, its literally 2024

 

[n0rthface]

truth.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

@URL code Why quiet? I'd like to hear your argument.

 

[RecessedChinCel]

VAUSH EXPOSED HAVING LOLI AND HORSE/HUMAN PORN ON HIS HARDDRIVE💀💀💀😭😭😭😭😭

These are the people calling u a misogynistic incel that needs to touch grass

looksmax.org

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Almost all psychology is "pseudo" by the metrics used in other fields since you cannot actually measure the things inside our heads. A better testament to a psychological thesis' validity would be, can anyone disprove it. And since no one out of 8 billion people have stepped up and said; "I do not have any of these 8 functions presented, I have a 9th which manifests like this" it is easy to note that in praxis it holds up as a reality.

Why would anyone attempt to disprove made up gibberish?

 

[Bomber517]

Couldn't care less about some horsefucking soycuck normie fat pedophile.

 

[Magnum Opus]

Why would anyone attempt to disprove made up gibberish?

I'm wondering if the concept of depression that explains your self-harming is also so called "made up gibberish"

 

[HarrierDuBois]

I'm wondering if the concept of depression that explains your self-harming is also so called "made up gibberish"

I mean well it's psychology which at its base is psuedoscientific so yeah everything within the multi-billion psychology industry from the most status quo understood psychology to the praxis realities are all fake since it is not empirical.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Almost all psychology is "pseudo" by the metrics used in other fields since you cannot actually measure the things inside our heads.

I mean well it's psychology which at its base is psuedoscientific so yeah everything within the multi-billion psychology industry from the most status quo understood psychology to the praxis realities are all fake since it is not empirical.

Human actions are products of the things inside our heads and those can be measured?

 

[Deleted member 45118]

VAUSH EXPOSED HAVING LOLI AND HORSE/HUMAN PORN ON HIS HARDDRIVE💀💀💀😭😭😭😭😭

These are the people calling u a misogynistic incel that needs to touch grass

looksmax.org

He addressed those allegations and theyre irrelevant to his points

 

[Deleted member 45118]

I'm wondering if the concept of depression that explains your self-harming is also so called "made up gibberish"

wdym?

 

[RecessedChinCel]

He addressed those allegations and theyre irrelevant to his points

Nigga he literally beats his dick to horse loli yet he thinks he can say anything about heteronormative human sexuality .

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Human actions are products of the things inside our heads and those can be measured?

They can't be measured by the tools we currently have in a way which would satisfy empirical data. Psychological research does not count as empirical in its essence however so not sure what you're saying. What you are insinuating by discrediting Jung in this context is that every psychological thesis ever constructed is fake because it's not empirical. The way we measure psychological validity is by seeing how well the theories actually hold up in reality of people existing. Jungs cognitive functions hold up to the same extent as those who established psychopathy and depression, which will you discredit and why?

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Nigga he literally beats his dick to horse loli yet he thinks he can say anything about heteronormative human sexuality .

yeah he doesnt use his personal experience to analyze how society behaves, duh

 

[HarrierDuBois]

yeah he doesnt use his personal experience to analyze how society behaves, duh

Maybe that is his problem honestly since anecdotes hold up surprisingly well if the bearer of them is intelligent. I understand the world extremely well just by introspecting on what I actually experience and putting it all together internally, someone who leaves reality to science reports misses out on the connected entirety of the reality he is actually experiencing.

 

[RecessedChinCel]

yeah he doesnt use his personal experience to analyze how society behaves, duh

“No bro, adult men aren’t attracted to feminine faces, indicators of fertility, low waist to hip ratio, supple breasts, and firm butts bro. Your looks have no impact on how attractive you are to men as a woman bro!

Now time to go beat my dick to cartoon porn depicting prepubescent looking girls getting fucked by animals brooo!”

- Vaush

Jfl

 

[Deleted member 45118]

hey can't be measured by the tools we currently have in a way which would satisfy empirical data.

We can measure human actions though. In a controlled setting, it can be isolated as a product of your psyche.

What you are insinuating by discrediting Jung in this context is that every psychological thesis ever constructed is fake because it's not empirical. The way we measure psychological validity is by seeing how well the theories actually hold up in reality of people existing.

His beliefs just seem like assumptions and wishful thinking dude, its not based on patterns he couldnt help but notice during psychometric testing

 

[HarrierDuBois]

We can measure human actions though. In a controlled setting, it can be isolated as a product of your psyche.

Cognitive functions manifest in behaviours so thanks for proving their validity.

His beliefs just seem like assumptions and wishful thinking dude, its not based on patterns he couldnt help but notice during psychometric testing

They are nothing but the actual patterns he came across after getting to know thousands of patients over his career and piecing together the patterns over time.

 

[Deleted member 46979]

Maybe that is his problem honestly since anecdotes hold up surprisingly well if the bearer of them is intelligent. I understand the world extremely well just by introspecting on what I actually experience and putting it all together internally, someone who leaves reality to science reports misses out on the connected entirety of the reality he is actually experiencing.

this is what i notice with these npc normies and left brain focused "empiricists". they have an over reliance on muh studies, almost like they think citing a bunch of studies is an automatic win. even ignoring the fact that studies are prone to human error, conscious and unconscious biases, and incentives to reach certain conclusions by way of manipulation because of who's paying for the search, they're just an incredibly inefficient way to parse reality compared to pattern recognition and intuition.

We can measure human actions though. In a controlled setting, it can be isolated as a product of your psyche.


His beliefs just seem like assumptions and wishful thinking dude, its not based on patterns he couldnt help but notice during psychometric testing

these shoddy standards you're proposing for "measuring" human behavior barely even passes for pseudoscience. just get over the fact that muh soyence isn't unassailable and even most of our "accepted" science we take for granted is in a stage of indefinite hypothesis and theory simply because we lack the technology and means to identify all variables do a proper controlled test for repetition

 

[HarrierDuBois]

this is what i notice with these npc normies and left brain focused "empiricists". they have an over reliance on muh studies, almost like they think citing a bunch of studies is an automatic win. even ignoring the fact that studies are prone to human error, conscious and unconscious biases, and incentives to reach certain conclusions by way of manipulation because of who's paying for the search, they're just an incredibly inefficient way to parse reality compared to pattern recognition and intuition.

these shoddy standards you're proposing for "measuring" human behavior barely even passes for pseudoscience. just get over the fact that muh soyence isn't unassailable and even most of our "accepted" science we take for granted is in a stage of indefinite hypothesis and theory simply because we lack the technology and means to identify all variables do a proper controlled test for repetition

High IQ.

 

[Aladin]

>Explains why the fact that some below average men struggle with dating isn't sufficient evidence to suggest that it's all about looks.

True, because some people here have standards. We don’t want a below average woman.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Maybe that is his problem honestly since anecdotes hold up surprisingly well if the bearer of them is intelligent. I understand the world extremely well just by introspecting on what I actually experience and putting it all together internally, someone who leaves reality to science reports misses out on the connected entirety of the reality he is actually experiencing.

Sadly yes, it doesnt work if youre retarded and cant judge validity of what is and isnt scientific. Its why alternative medicine, psychics, astrology all exist. None of the people participating in them experienced any of the things described by those doctrines.

Assuming youre able to abstract yourself from your own biases i can partially agree that anecdotes can turn into high quality, but heavily limited pieces of data when youre trying to understand the greater matter of fact. But they can just as easily lead you to biased and self-centric views on the universe, which would lead to 8 billion realities, when by definition reality is only one. The point of science is to analyze what all perspectives can be collectively right about if all bias is removed. Anecdotes are only as useful as you are aware of your capability to interpret the world around you.

Its why its all based on falsifiability - you need to always be attempting to prove yourself and others wrong. I think youre just confused on what science is, your POV seems to be like "scientific consensus is an average of all beliefs" when in reality its an aggregate of all verified beliefs and an effort to remove falsified ones. Psychology just happens to be the field which goes directly against this method insofar as how personal it is is for everyone. But it doesnt mean that's a feature of it, its the opposite.

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Sadly yes

Reddit tier soy instantly, my intuition can predict the essence of the following statements and it's not impressive to say the least. You can throw all buzzwords you want at me but once again my intuition in reality guided me through life efficiently and will keep doing so, hope those science articles help you stop self harming someday.

 

[hopeless NTmaxxer]

Give that retard an introductory college textbook on evolutionary psychology to read.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

hese shoddy standards you're proposing for "measuring" human behavior barely even passes for pseudoscience. just get over the fact that muh soyence isn't unassailable and even most of our "accepted" science we take for granted is in a stage of indefinite hypothesis and theory simply because we lack the technology and means to identify all variables do a proper controlled test for repetition

you nigger whats your point? your point is people should believe their own woo-woo freakery conceived in schizo episodes because we havent perfected the scientific establishment?
what youre critiquing has always been and always will be acknowledged and assessed by people in the very same field when theyre trying to stay true to the discipline
if you think we should give up and go back to the stone age that your own belief, but youre saying very little when youre telling me "well it can be wrong because its physically and even logistically possible for results to be tampered with!"

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Reddit tier soy instantly, my intuition can predict the essence of the following statements and it's not impressive to say the least. You can throw all buzzwords you want at me but once again my intuition in reality guided me through life efficiently and will keep doing so, hope those science articles help you stop self harming someday.

your intuition was wrong and you just owned yourself, i was incredibly charitable, neutral and understanding in that comment

thats why i bothered to write multiple paragraphs to you

 

[HarrierDuBois]

your intuition was wrong and you just owned yourself, i was incredibly charitable, neutral and understanding in that comment

thats why i bothered to write multiple paragraphs to you

You bothered to write multiple paragraphs because this is the first time someone has bothered to interact with you in months, and no the female cashier who says "Hi" and "Do you want your receipts" doesn't count as you go to buy tv dinners and energy drinks. Remember the mental health woman speaking to you would steer her kids away from your drugged hobo ass on the street if she wasn't getting paid by the government for speaking to you.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

You bothered to write multiple paragraphs because this is the first time someone has bothered to interact with you in months, and no the female cashier who says "Hi" and "Do you want your receipts" doesn't count as you go to buy tv dinners and energy drinks.

Is this how you react to everyone who challenges your beliefs? How do you expect to ever be tested on anything you believe?

It all goes back to you wanting to live in your won personal virtual reality.
>Its not comfy when my bullshit intuitions start collapsing on themselves the moment someone bothers to think any of them through!

 

[HarrierDuBois]

Is this how you react to everyone who challenges your beliefs? How do you expect to ever be tested on anything you believe?

It all goes back to you wanting to live in your won personal virtual reality.
>Its not comfy when my bullshit intuitions start collapsing on themselves the moment someone bothers to think any of them through!

How far off am I really? You will wake up to this reality tomorrow and forever. I won't, have a good life!

 

[Deleted member 45118]

How far off am I really? You will wake up to this reality tomorrow and forever. I won't, have a good life!

You will always be a middle-of-the-pack iq, hard stuck midwit with autism who can never come up with a single truly intelligent or original thought. You cant psychoanalyze for shit, just like your pseudopsych role models. Youre essentially sleepwalking through life

BTW I hope you realize how some people on the forum actually see you it lines up pretty closely with what i said above. Keep iqmogging people in your class bro, you owned them! Show them the mensa online iq test score!

 

[HarrierDuBois]

You will always be a middle-of-the-pack iq, hard stuck midwit with autism who can never come up with a single truly intelligent or original thought. You cant psychoanalyze for shit, just like your pseudopsych role models. Youre essentially sleepwalking through life

BTW I hope you realize how some people on the forum actually see you it lines up pretty closely with what i said above. Keep iqmogging people in your class bro, you owned them! Show them the mensa online iq test score!

Your life can't be that bad since poor mental health is just a psuedoscientific abstraction right? If you won't accept the psuedoscience you will live a good life. I'd heavily recommend to live your new life and experience your new reality entirely through a series of fragmented sequential empirically proven studies. That way you will never be wrong! Take my wisdom to heart, reject psuedoscience and living life as it exists in a multicontextual flow in front of you, instead see no fault in your mind and live life through empiricism! Reject reality!

 

[StrangerDanger]

Sadly yes, it doesnt work if youre retarded and cant judge validity of what is and isnt scientific. Its why alternative medicine, psychics, astrology all exist. None of the people participating in them experienced any of the things described by those doctrines.

Assuming youre able to abstract yourself from your own biases i can partially agree that anecdotes can turn into high quality, but heavily limited pieces of data when youre trying to understand the greater matter of fact. But they can just as easily lead you to biased and self-centric views on the universe, which would lead to 8 billion realities, when by definition reality is only one. The point of science is to analyze what all perspectives can be collectively right about if all bias is removed. Anecdotes are only as useful as you are aware of your capability to interpret the world around you.

Its why its all based on falsifiability - you need to always be attempting to prove yourself and others wrong. I think youre just confused on what science is, your POV seems to be like "scientific consensus is an average of all beliefs" when in reality its an aggregate of all verified beliefs and an effort to remove falsified ones. Psychology just happens to be the field which goes directly against this method insofar as how personal it is is for everyone. But it doesnt mean that's a feature of it, its the opposite.

Science is limited as it can only explain the illusionary reality that is manifested by the one consciousness. Why should we constrain ourselves within the boundaries of the dream when the truth is so much larger? Science will never able to explain consciousness because consciousness is more fundamental than the physical world. Anything in the universe can be explained though since its just made up in the mind and not fundamental. The truth is no concept, it just is. Woo woo mogs.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Your life can't be that bad since poor mental health is just a psuedoscientific abstraction right? If you won't accept the psuedoscience you will live a good life. I'd heavily recommend to live your new life and experience your new reality entirely through a series of fragmented sequential empirically proven studies. That way you will never be wrong! Take my wisdom to heart, reject psuedoscience and living life as it exists in a multicontextual flow in front of you, instead see no fault in your mind and live life through empiricism! Reject reality!

Geeeeg this retard really failed to understand my comment describing the scientific method in a casual manner hes actually trying to parody it but its so cagefuel when someone doesnt even know what they're talking about

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Science is limited as it can only explain the illusionary reality that is manifested by the one consciousness. Why should we constrain ourselves within the boundaries of the dream when the truth is so much larger? Science will never able to explain consciousness because consciousness is more fundamental than the physical world. Anything in the universe can be explained though since its just made up in the mind and not fundamental. The truth is no concept, it just is. Woo woo mogs.

why do you people always pull the ultimate skeptic card when people are talking about science? Or total nihilism?
and how do you always fail to understand that, no matter how you frame it, science remains just as relevant? Youre not bringing up anything of relevance dude, even in your world its in your best interest to navigate it by using science as an anchor. Unless youre willing to believe this philosophical value to death and give up on the idea that anything of what youre experiencing is of relevance to you... i woudnt do that if i were you but sure

Actually we can make an alternate Pascal's wager for this! And skeptics end up losing in it, considering theyre risking never experiencing the real world...

 

[0S4MA]

dnr over for manlets and deathnics in the west idc what any faggot who beats to horse porn has to say about it

 

[Deleted member 18202]

Science is limited as it can only explain the illusionary reality that is manifested by the one consciousness. Why should we constrain ourselves within the boundaries of the dream when the truth is so much larger? Science will never able to explain consciousness because consciousness is more fundamental than the physical world. Anything in the universe can be explained though since its just made up in the mind and not fundamental. The truth is no concept, it just is. Woo woo mogs.

 

[Deleted member 45118]

dnr over for manlets and deathnics in the west idc what any faggot who beats to horse porn has to say about it

this isnt blackpill tho, its scientifically proven that ethnic men are doomed in the west!

 

[0S4MA]

this isnt blackpill tho, its scientifically proven that ethnic men are doomed in the west!

Huh?

racepill is 100% blackpill adjacent and I already know what angle your going for but it doesn't explain why ethnic girls love white men

 

[Deleted member 45118]

Huh?

racepill is 100% blackpill adjacent and I already know what angle your going for but it doesn't explain why ethnic girls love white men

Cuz dem crakkkas were just built to fuck brown women n shiet cuh ion know

 

[Dickdazzler]

I mog him and I slay more than him, there, blackpill debunked, debunked

 

[Imretarded?]

>Explains how people like you aren't interested in addressing underlying issues affecting men.

>Explains how blackpillers' beliefs about attractiveness and relationships have been skewed by cherry-picked data and misinterpretation.

>Explains how societal pressures and stereotypes contribute to the incel/blackpill mindset.

>Explains how various social and psychological factors, not just looks, influence one's success in dating.

>Explains how misogyny and toxic masculinity perpetuated within incel/blackpill communities contribute to their own issues.

>Explains how some individuals, regardless of appearance, find fulfilling relationships through empathy, communication, and personal growth.

>Explains why the fact that some below average men struggle with dating isn't sufficient evidence to suggest that it's all about looks.

>Everything said in the video is supported by psychological research and expert analysis.

>Provides practical steps and resources for incels to improve their outlook and well-being.


Where is YOUR evidence to back up your baseless claims about attractiveness and relationships? By all means, watch the whole video; I assure you, you can't debunk it.


>inb4 I get told to shut up by someone who hasn't watched the video and is triggered by these FACTS.
>inb4 someone says oppressing women is good.
>inb4 someone suggests enforced relationships.
>inb4 someone uses anecdotal evidence.
>inb4 someone cites dating statistics without an analysis of the broader context or societal factors.
>inb4 someone calls me a beta.
>inb4 someone says "cope" because his incel mind is challenged by a different perspective.

keep the discussion focused and refrain from resorting to the tactics mentioned above in the inb4 section. Be open-minded and engage with the video and discussion WITH SOURCES.

i'm open to having my mind changed, but only with reliable sources that provide a comprehensive substantiation of the claims and account for all the complexities involved.

Vaush is right.

You never needed to be a mogger to get in relationships. You need to be a mogger to fuck a new woman every week from dating apps or the bar.

The black pill is completely true if you look at certain demographics and untrue when you look at others. People here do not understand this because they're retarded non neurotypical fucks.

 

[Eriot Lodger]

He can date other women too so its equal, i wouldnt call it cucked.

That's not the same thing! A man having many partners and a woman is very different. A man gets higher value the more he sleeps around, whereas for women it's the inverse.

 

[Imretarded?]

He is sexually successful and clearly more intelligent that 99% of users here.

>Pedophile
Source?

>Homosexual
Nothing wrong with it, its literally 2024

Nah probably is, his porn folder was full of lolis. He said he thought they were 'shortstacks'

Nothing wrong with that, its just drawings though.

 

[wollet2]

Because words are created to describe things we know, and since philosophy many times speaks of things which we do not know. To portray the concept - if it is very abstract - through symbolic representation is a very smooth way to make people understand it. Like Nietzsche said: What can not be said with reason you must say with emotions i.e make the reader FEEL your idea if they can't understand it.

how can you be sure you know anything beyond the very sensory level

you can make any symbol/narrative/story u want out of our experiences which are what they are with no narrative

 

[wollet2]

vaush and all ugly as fuck oofy doofy incel-in-denial like him are completely terrified of the implications of the blackpill as applied to his life. this is why they cope. this is why they all cope.

idk if he is terrified arguing aginst subhuman incels is "fun"

 

[Imretarded?]

Science is limited as it can only explain the illusionary reality that is manifested by the one consciousness. Why should we constrain ourselves within the boundaries of the dream when the truth is so much larger? Science will never able to explain consciousness because consciousness is more fundamental than the physical world. Anything in the universe can be explained though since its just made up in the mind and not fundamental. The truth is no concept, it just is. Woo woo mogs.

We're all brains in a jar

 

[wollet2]

dick size is EVERYTHING when it comes to woman getting and life sucks

 

[wollet2]

The black pill is completely true if you look at certain demographics and untrue when you look at others. People here do not understand this because they're retarded non neurotypical fucks.

but thats what most incels believe too

the blackpill is absolutely real. current incels are just so retarded they dont even know why its over for them .

 

[Manana]

Blackpill is just the most logical conclusion from a necessary generalization when talking about dating or any other subject.

We can talk about anomalies and experiences forever but we'll never reach a conclusion.