Do any of you get IOI's?

[PrettyLights]

No roiding with my health the way it is because I can't go to the gym but I plan on getting surgeries to fix some flaws in my eye area. It's weird because I do believe I look more like a HTN but I got treatment that was more in line with a CL so I think I'm just on the border and some minor surgeries can help push me over the edge.

Idk if I would ever roid though. I would have to learn more about it to know if it's worth it. However I'm quite decided on surgeries.

Get Cantho and infras I can show my results dm

wait what the fuck, there are people on here that actually "looksmax" ? i thought it was just a meme

 

[hypernormie]

wait what the fuck, there are people on here that actually "looksmax" ? i thought it was just a meme

He's a mogger too

 

[PrettyLights]

He's a mogger too

nah y'all really do this shit tho. fucking crazy brazy ass niggas

 

[iblamexyz]

Looks level?

I’ve been rated hmtn-lhtn

 

[hypernormie]

I’ve been rated hmtn-lhtn

Age range? And age range of girls you are getting IOI's from?

 

[ezio6]

Whenevebi ride my sport car i got a lot of that oofy doofy ioi

 

[hypernormie]

Whenevebi ride my sport car i got a lot of that oofy doofy ioi

Really? I've always wondered if that shit works

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Yes

 

[hypernormie]

Yes

You live in Sri Lanka right?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

You live in Sri Lanka right?

Currently India but I also got IOIs from women when I was staying abroad also.

 

[coolman985]

I’m too ND to know fs and if it does happen I second guess so idk if it even happens

 

[iblamexyz]

Age range? And age range of girls you are getting IOI's from?

I’m 20 most of the girls are my age

 

[hypernormie]

Currently India but I also got IOIs from women when I was staying abroad also.

Abroad where? Are you maxed? Last time I recall you said you were bloated

 

[hypernormie]

I’m 20 most of the girls are my age

You must have some serious drip

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Abroad where? Are you maxed? Last time I recall you said you were bloated

US. And not maxxed. I have lost weight but I still need to shed a few more pounds.

 

[PrettyLights]

It’s gonna be over for anyone sub Chadlite soon

I had to get 5 surgeries to keep up with the dating market hypergamy @AscensionMan98 @SecularIslamist

maybe the hypergamy was the friends that we made along the way

 

[hypernormie]

US. And not maxxed. I have lost weight but I still need to shed a few more pounds.

Interesting I would think you'd be at a disadvantage in the US. Was this in a work context or just generally out and about?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Interesting I would think you'd be at a disadvantage in the US. Was this in a work context or just generally out and about?

At work a Japanese foid slightly older than me and at a coffee shop blonde woman around my age in bay area.

 

[hypernormie]

At work a Japanese foid slightly older than me and at a coffee shop blonde woman around my age in bay area.

Are you tall?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Are you tall?

Yes 6'2 but I'm not looking for anyone atm. I already quite happy

How do we look?

Had a little too many cans and the bloat demon came back to haunt me again. I'll explain everything in another thread but i was giga NT because I was under influence

looksmax.org

 

[AscensionMan98]

Dating market is getting way harder @Foreverbrad @AscensionMan98 @SecularIslamist

I would say increased hypergamy and women being addicted to their phones is another factor contributing to less ioi. To prove this I looked at how foids reacted to chads walking by and surprisingly a lot of times they did NOT get any IOI . The whores were too busy looking at their phones or talking to their roasties friends.

Does chad still get a lot of ioi, yes, but nothing as much as you expected. Maybe like 1/6 foids looked at him but half the foids did not even look past their phone or too busy talking to their roasties friends.

The only way to gauge interest from foids is to approach them and see if they are willing to talk with you enough to go on a date, and then you fuck them.

 

[AscensionMan98]

It’s gonna be over for anyone sub Chadlite soon

I had to get 5 surgeries to keep up with the dating market hypergamy @AscensionMan98 @SecularIslamist

Fuck these selfish foids. Do you feel that dating life was easier when you were pre surgery maxxed but still low inhibition or with your new looks and the far worse hypergamy now days it balances out

 

[diditeverbegin]

IOI = Indicator of Interest

Girls staring at you
Smiling at you while staring
Playing with their hair while staring at you while smiling

Basically girls trying to communicate that they find you attractive

I don’t trust them

 

[decadouche57]

Fuck these selfish foids. Do you feel that dating life was easier when you were pre surgery maxxed but still low inhibition or with your new looks and the far worse hypergamy now days it balances out

I’ll dm you

 

[AscensionMan98]

I used to get a lot of very obvious IOI's now I barely get any

My health got fucked up though so I stopped looksmaxxing and only do the bare minimum to level of looksmaxxing to remain presentable in the meantime so that's my excuse

But I'm curious if any of you get IOI's because even though my looks have taken a hit I still feel like the level of attention I get has dropped precipitously and more than reasonable considering my looks

I'm curious if women are just giving out less IOI's in general nowadays to everyone

Lmk your thoughts

I used to wonder why I was getting less so I went to the malls and stores and paid attention to how foids reacted to chads walking by or attractive men and most of the time they are too busy on their phones or talking to their friends.

Women are a lot more distracted these days due to brain rot then before making it harder for them to even try to look at other men

Did I get some ioi at all in the last few years , yes , but they would have to not be on their phone and not in a large roasties group, like 1 other foid max, so 2 foids sometimes 3 absolute max.

And even then it was uncommon.

The last time I got any meaningful ioi semi frequently was like when I 175 lbs at my height 5ft 11 and 15% body fat on sarms.

To replicate that woudl be a more accurate experiment but based on how foids act around chads I don't think I will get much ioi.

The only ioi that even matters is penis in vagina. The rest is cope. These whores play too many games due to extreme abundance and not enough hot foids in my country united fat fucks of america. Maybe in Poland or Denmark where the average foid is really hot would the skinny foids be less entitled but that is not the case...

You need to be chadlite and approaching like crazy for any decent pussy these days

 

[AscensionMan98]

I’ll dm you

sounds good bro

 

[Whatever]

Good thread. I was getting a lot late last year to earlier this year, especially while traveling, but it was usually a girl staring at me through a car window or she was with her parents or something that I couldn’t approach. But I’ve been depressed and in a bad mood for months now and it kinda stopped.

Girls are definitely shyer about giving them nowadays. Compared to before the pandemic when sometimes they were legit opportunities for sex.

 

[hypernormie]

Yes 6'2 but I'm not looking for anyone atm. I already quite happy

How do we look?

Had a little too many cans and the bloat demon came back to haunt me again. I'll explain everything in another thread but i was giga NT because I was under influence

looksmax.org

Fawk bro why is everyone 6'2 but me

 

[hypernormie]

I don’t trust them

Well if they are obvious there's no reason not to

 

[hypernormie]

I used to wonder why I was getting less so I went to the malls and stores and paid attention to how foids reacted to chads walking by or attractive men and most of the time they are too busy on their phones or talking to their friends.

Women are a lot more distracted these days due to brain rot then before making it harder for them to even try to look at other men

Did I get some ioi at all in the last few years , yes , but they would have to not be on their phone and not in a large roasties group, like 1 other foid max, so 2 foids sometimes 3 absolute max.

And even then it was uncommon.

The last time I got any meaningful ioi semi frequently was like when I 175 lbs at my height 5ft 11 and 15% body fat on sarms.

To replicate that woudl be a more accurate experiment but based on how foids act around chads I don't think I will get much ioi.

The only ioi that even matters is penis in vagina. The rest is cope. These whores play too many games due to extreme abundance and not enough hot foids in my country united fat fucks of america. Maybe in Poland or Denmark where the average foid is really hot would the skinny foids be less entitled but that is not the case...

You need to be chadlite and approaching like crazy for any decent pussy these days

I was getting most IOI's pre my injury and I was 5'10.5 175 just normally and HHTN-LCL looks range just reference because of the stats you mention

Now I've descended but not by much and my IOI's have vanished

At this time the IOI's were constant and I felt they were very actionable. I don't agree the only IOI is PiV. These bitches were being very overt. Staring at me on some creep shit. Many times I would laugh to myself at how blatant some foids would be about trying to get my attention.

I guess I would have to reascend to really assess if the market has truly gotten more difficult but I'm very curious how it is in other countries I know the USA, especially a city I'm in like NYC is ubergigahardmode. You see guys walking around that would just negate all your efforts if they are on apps and they probably are, women are seeing these guys constantly if they are on the apps. It's not just the top 1% it's the top 0.1%.

Even if the chicks aren't bagging these guys themselves, they know a chick who is (and on top of that, that chick is likely higher status) and that's enough to skew their perception about what options are available to them.

 

[fr0st]

I used to get a lot of very obvious IOI's now I barely get any

My health got fucked up though so I stopped looksmaxxing and only do the bare minimum to level of looksmaxxing to remain presentable in the meantime so that's my excuse

But I'm curious if any of you get IOI's because even though my looks have taken a hit I still feel like the level of attention I get has dropped precipitously and more than reasonable considering my looks

I'm curious if women are just giving out less IOI's in general nowadays to everyone

Lmk your thoughts

Yeah i get a lot. Crazy how foids are always talking about subtly when flirting but they're the least subtle people ever JFL

 

[hypernormie]

Yeah i get a lot. Crazy how foids are always talking about subtly when flirting but they're the least subtle people ever JFL

A foids way of getting a man's attention is staring a hole in the side of his head or basically following him around on some stalker shit.

Subtlety to them means not walking up and saying hi, they will literally do everything else but that and think they are being subtle.

Franky with the way women act towards guys they find attractive I actually do feel for them when they complain about men being dumb because you have to be retarded levels of socially oblivious to not notice the way these bitches will fiend for your attention.

 

[fr0st]

A foids way of getting a man's attention is staring a hole in the side of his head or basically following him around on some stalker shit.

Subtlety to them means not walking up and saying hi, they will literally do everything else but that and think they are being subtle.

Franky with the way women act towards guys they find attractive I actually do feel for them when they complain about men being dumb because you have to be retarded levels of socially oblivious to not notice the way these bitches will fiend for your attention.

The way foids act towards me is crazy legit rapey stalker tier shit but its okay because "muh patriarchy" ive had girls "accidently" brush against me 10 times at work and when the old foid got my number nobody said "yo thats weird that girl 30 years older than you is texting you late at night her fired thats pedophile shit!" My boss literally laughed out loud and made jokes.



Not saying im a fag who wants everyone to treat me like a princess I just think its funny how these whores act

 

[hypernormie]

The way foids act towards me is crazy legit rapey stalker tier shit but its okay because "muh patriarchy" ive had girls "accidently" brush against me 10 times at work and when the old foid got my number nobody said "yo thats weird that girl 30 years older than you is texting you late at night her fired thats pedophile shit!" My boss literally laughed out loud and made jokes.



Not saying im a fag who wants everyone to treat me like a princess I just think its funny how these whores act

Yeah, it makes you realize how much of the "patriarchy" and "toxic masculinity" they complain about is complete BS. Foids will not hesitate to sexually harass/assault you if they find you attractive. They can be extremely low inhib and disregard some pretty significant boundaries that you as a man could never cross without risking serious repercussions. It's a real eye opener.

 

[AscensionMan98]

I was getting most IOI's pre my injury and I was 5'10.5 175 just normally and HHTN-LCL looks range just reference because of the stats you mention

Now I've descended but not by much and my IOI's have vanished

At this time the IOI's were constant and I felt they were very actionable. I don't agree the only IOI is PiV. These bitches were being very overt. Staring at me on some creep shit. Many times I would laugh to myself at how blatant some foids would be about trying to get my attention.

I guess I would have to reascend to really assess if the market has truly gotten more difficult but I'm very curious how it is in other countries I know the USA, especially a city I'm in like NYC is ubergigahardmode. You see guys walking around that would just negate all your efforts if they are on apps and they probably are, women are seeing these guys constantly if they are on the apps. It's not just the top 1% it's the top 0.1%.

Even if the chicks aren't bagging these guys themselves, they know a chick who is (and on top of that, that chick is likely higher status) and that's enough to skew their perception about what options are available to them.

Well bro hop on that BPC 157 + tb500 peptide wolverine healing stack and do your physical therapy and let me know once you recover. I am curious to see

But based on veteran slayer @decadouche57 with a 250 bodycount hypergamy is dangerously out of control to the point he did a ton of looksmaxxing and despite that he gets less slays then without any hard max 5-7 years back .....


I am doing the same although I never had anywhere close to the success he had. Looking at a rhino and genioplasty . Eye area thankfully is not cucked . And then planning to build some lean mass and maintain fertility with enclo and hgh boosting peptides.

And that wont be enough so I plan to use the status angle with fake instagram followers and approaching foids irl. It might work for some dumb ones but most likely wont work with most but its worth a shot.

They say the average IQ is 100 but that means half the foids have a iq lower then that... and sure its skewed with black foids and hispanics pulling it down but I am sure I can find a stupid white foid who will fall for my 100k instagram trick...

I have not implanted it as been busy trying to get a normal wage cuck job but remote to help fund this. Made decent amount of money trading but trying to improve confidence with foids so I blew a few grand on sugar foids. If you dont know what a sugar foid is its basically a dating site for rich guys usually older 40+ that pay money for " dates " with younger foids .

I banged a few foids one skinny blond foid, one foid with a good face card but a bit chubby in the stomach, and some fit more busty white foid but she was like 26. Now holding off as I want only a really hot foid to boost my confidence. Then I plan to delete it for good as its a waste of money.

Usually you can bang em for like 300-600, but some really hot ones want 1k .Some Stacy that models a lot hit me up for 2k per fuck. I will go bankrupt if I do it long term which is why I do one night stands usually.

Some decent cute skinny blond foid was down for 500 but lives 4 hours away.

For some reason my city despite huge population more then 4 million in metro is dead in the site, and to be fair only fans killed the number of sugar foids on the site. It used to be 5-10x more foids, now its down by 90% as they switched to only fans cause why put in effort to make money when only fans is their with zero effort. Dont have to sleep with some chopped rich guy...

 

[sub5outsider]

IOI = Indicator of Interest

Girls staring at you
Smiling at you while staring
Playing with their hair while staring at you while smiling

Basically girls trying to communicate that they find you attractive

most girls give iois to guys cuz they know the guy will think the girl is interested in him so she can manipulate him use him and eventually to cuck him by ghosting him all of a sudden

 

[futurechadlite111]

I used to get a lot of very obvious IOI's now I barely get any

My health got fucked up though so I stopped looksmaxxing and only do the bare minimum to level of looksmaxxing to remain presentable in the meantime so that's my excuse

But I'm curious if any of you get IOI's because even though my looks have taken a hit I still feel like the level of attention I get has dropped precipitously and more than reasonable considering my looks

I'm curious if women are just giving out less IOI's in general nowadays to everyone

Lmk your thoughts

im probably late to this thread as this has 135 answers but if u count staring and looking many times/ eye tag then daily, but very rarely get approached, im acnecel htn 6´5

 

[optimisticzoomer]

All the time. I ignore every single one

 

[optimisticzoomer]

most girls give iois to guys cuz they know the guy will think the girl is interested in him so she can manipulate him use him and eventually to cuck him by ghosting him all of a sudden

Yep
It’s not cos theyre muh attracted
They want a sucker to use

 

[Looks over NT]

i dont know if theyre iois but every time i go outside for a decent amount of time, at least one foid looks at me. This was at around 15% bf and didnt happen in the past when i was fatter so it could be my face being ok at first glance. i dont take them seriously tho like those fags who interpret everything as an ioi; its just nice to not be invisible

 

[optimisticzoomer]

i dont know if theyre iois but every time i go outside for a decent amount of time, at least one foid looks at me.

@Debetro

 

[Quicksand]

Often

 

[htbslayeer]

in developed countries absolutely 0, I got IOIs sometimes in Latin America. 5'9 MTN so that's really normal can't even complain

 

[diditeverbegin]

Well if they are obvious there's no reason not to

Heed and succeed haunts me
Every time I feel like it’s an you I remember that line

 

[Latinolooksmaxxer]

yes but its not common as i dont go out very often, im shut-in maxxing

last ioi thread i made was about some specialization classes i took i got a few iois there

 

[White_Bwoi]

Im walking in slowmo like in my avi, and 'foids' are turing their heads, or stop in their tracks & shiet, or pretending not to see me, then to take a glance at the last moment, it's ridiculous with my inability to be in casual fbw shit & looking for that unicorn girl all the time,

don't mind the "chad" ramblings, move along...

 

[Bobbyrino]

I do pretty often but every single time it is some ugly subhuman bitch so i dont care

 

[decadouche57]

in developed countries absolutely 0, I got IOIs sometimes in Latin America. 5'9 MTN so that's really normal can't even complain

I thought you were a Chad?

 

[htbslayeer]

I thought you were a Chad?

Where did I possibly allege that? If it’s my username just let me cope in peace

 

[hypernormie]

Well bro hop on that BPC 157 + tb500 peptide wolverine healing stack and do your physical therapy and let me know once you recover. I am curious to see

But based on veteran slayer @decadouche57 with a 250 bodycount hypergamy is dangerously out of control to the point he did a ton of looksmaxxing and despite that he gets less slays then without any hard max 5-7 years back .....


I am doing the same although I never had anywhere close to the success he had. Looking at a rhino and genioplasty . Eye area thankfully is not cucked . And then planning to build some lean mass and maintain fertility with enclo and hgh boosting peptides.

And that wont be enough so I plan to use the status angle with fake instagram followers and approaching foids irl. It might work for some dumb ones but most likely wont work with most but its worth a shot.

They say the average IQ is 100 but that means half the foids have a iq lower then that... and sure its skewed with black foids and hispanics pulling it down but I am sure I can find a stupid white foid who will fall for my 100k instagram trick...

I have not implanted it as been busy trying to get a normal wage cuck job but remote to help fund this. Made decent amount of money trading but trying to improve confidence with foids so I blew a few grand on sugar foids. If you dont know what a sugar foid is its basically a dating site for rich guys usually older 40+ that pay money for " dates " with younger foids .

I banged a few foids one skinny blond foid, one foid with a good face card but a bit chubby in the stomach, and some fit more busty white foid but she was like 26. Now holding off as I want only a really hot foid to boost my confidence. Then I plan to delete it for good as its a waste of money.

Usually you can bang em for like 300-600, but some really hot ones want 1k .Some Stacy that models a lot hit me up for 2k per fuck. I will go bankrupt if I do it long term which is why I do one night stands usually.

Some decent cute skinny blond foid was down for 500 but lives 4 hours away.

For some reason my city despite huge population more then 4 million in metro is dead in the site, and to be fair only fans killed the number of sugar foids on the site. It used to be 5-10x more foids, now its down by 90% as they switched to only fans cause why put in effort to make money when only fans is their with zero effort. Dont have to sleep with some chopped rich guy...

Yeah I do think hypergamy is getting worse overall I'm the west.

I can't hop on anything to recover because the injury is complex and not a simple healing with time issue. I unfortunately just have to wait and hope it fixes itself as annoying as that sounds.

I could definitely still slay if I was back in action tomorrow but even prior to me getting fucked up I started thinking that the effort I was putting in for slays did not match the results, not in the sense the girls weren't hot enough but simply the number of hoops and skills I had to develop relative to the the amount of sexual value I was receiving. The unit of effort per pussy was just not favorable even as HTN-LCL. It's interesting because I can more or less guarantee slays, I don't really have any ambiguity around whether I will fuck a girl once I know she's interested, once I know she interested it's almost a 100% guarantee but the again the amount of effort is not ideal.

If you're into white chicks it might seriously behoove you to move overseas to some Scandinavian or eastern European country. My issue is I'm highly attracted to black and Hispanic chicks so even though I think it would be better to leave the US for psychological reasons, I have a preference for the specific type of women found in America. If I didn't have that it would be a simple decision.

Paying for pussy of any kind is just expensive. I got into cam girls for a bit and it's a little addicting because it's so easy and accessible. If I had the money I would probably be seeing escorts too. Even then for both my previous point and this one, overseas may be a better option. I'm sure American women are taxing the hell out of their services. Even on the cam sites American women cost 5-10x more than women from other countries.

Are you considering moving out of the US?