Do calories actually matter for facial development, or just nutrients?

[chadisbeingmade]

Asking out of my own curiosity and knowledge. I’m over the age it even matters.

Is calorie surplus needed, or does it not matter if you’re in a deficit for example, just that you get enough nutrients from high nutrient dense foods like meats, eggs, fish etc?

All kids back in the day used to be skinny and shredded, not fat like most now, and they were well developed, at least more than now, despite low bf.

 

[Bl0odKn1ght]

Asking out of my own curiosity and knowledge. I’m over the age it even matters.

Is calorie surplus needed, or does it not matter if you’re in a deficit for example, just that you get enough nutrients from high nutrient dense foods like meats, eggs, fish etc?

All kids back in the day used to be skinny and shredded, not fat like most now a days, and they were well developed despite low bf.

Aslong as ur not malnourished then getting the right nutrients is all that matters

 

[asdvek]

Just eat food bro stop overcomplicating shit

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Just eat food bro stop overcomplicating shit

*the right food

 

[Part-Time Chad]

Calories matter, or the body will simply burn the nutrients to sustain itself, rather than improve.

 

[DR. NICKGA]

Genetics

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Calories matter, or the body will simply burn the nutrients to sustain itself, rather than improve.

But your body fat also has nutrients stored, so as long as your not in some malnourished state and eating in slight deficit maybe your body would compensate with those calories and nutrients for its growth from body fat. so growth wouldn’t be impacted. no?

 

[britshcel]

Asking out of my own curiosity and knowledge. I’m over the age it even matters.

Is calorie surplus needed, or does it not matter if you’re in a deficit for example, just that you get enough nutrients from high nutrient dense foods like meats, eggs, fish etc?

All kids back in the day used to be skinny and shredded, not fat like most now, and they were well developed, at least more than now, despite low bf.

Nah calories is a man made construct. Just eat raw meat, preferably raw organs with some gras fed completely natural butter and drink only blood. Make sure to follow your hunger signals and only eat when hungry and stop eating when comfortably full. Oh and also, get 10 hours sleep minimum, live in the sun and only walk as exercise.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Nah calories is a man made construct. Just eat raw meat, preferably raw organs with some gras fed completely natural butter and drink only blood. Make sure to follow your hunger signals and only eat when hungry and stop eating when comfortably full. Oh and also, get 10 hours sleep minimum, live in the sun and only walk as exercise.

i agree diet should revolve around meat. but nutrient loss from cooking is completely over blown. Spreading the eat raw meat will make teens go to some super market and get low quality meat and they’ll eat it raw which is not good. not all meat is equal.

 

[Part-Time Chad]

But your body fat also has nutrients stored, so as long as your not in some malnourished state your body would compensate with those calories and nutrients for its growth. no?

The body would use up all the calories and nutrients in the food first, and, if that isn't enough, then it would tap into fat, muscle and bone tissue for the remainder. Which of those 3 tissues it taps into the most would be determined by the amount of protein you consumed and how large the caloric deficit was. If the deficit is too large, you're losing all 3 tissues (fat, muscle, and bone density) and becoming skinnyfat.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

The body would use up all the calories and nutrients in the food first, and, if that isn't enough, then it would tap into fat, muscle and bone tissue for the remainder. Which of those 3 tissues it taps into the most would be determined by the amount of protein you consumed and how large the caloric deficit was. If the deficit is too large, you're losing all 3 tissues (fat, muscle, and bone density) and becoming skinnyfat.

Yes i agree. Your goal is to lose body fat, not the other 2. So yes calories do matter to not be in a super catabolic state.
But slight deficit, with high amounts of animal protein (and fats for hormones, like 100g minimum), wouldn’t have any impact on development and wouldn’t case loss of bone or muscle tissue? corrext?

 

[britshcel]

i agree diet should revolve around meat. but nutrient loss from cooking is completely over blown. Spreading the eat raw meat will make teens go to some super market and get low quality meat and they’ll eat us raw which is not good. not all meat is equal.

Cooking method, temperature and duration are all things to keep in mind. We've been lied to that raw meat in itself is dangerous to us humans.

At the bare minimum, carnivore diet with high quality, non processed meat and ideal cooking method to preserve as much nutrient as possible. I think steaming is good (or at least better than other normie ways of cooking) but could be wrong.

Water with electrolyte also and all animal products including eggs.

Bare minimum though imo.

 

[Part-Time Chad]

Yes i agree. Your goal is to lose body fat, not the other 2. So yes calories do matter to not be in a super catabolic state.
But slight deficit, with high amounts of animal protein (and fats for hormones, like 100g minimum), wouldn’t have any impact on development and wouldn’t case loss of bone or muscle tissue? corrext?

Correct. I forgot to mention that consuming too little protein and some fats would have the same effect as having too large a caloric deficit-- both would result in loss of lean tissue.

 

[Erikjfl]

Asking out of my own curiosity and knowledge. I’m over the age it even matters.

Is calorie surplus needed, or does it not matter if you’re in a deficit for example, just that you get enough nutrients from high nutrient dense foods like meats, eggs, fish etc?

All kids back in the day used to be skinny and shredded, not fat like most now, and they were well developed, at least more than now, despite low bf.

kinda hard to get all esseintail nutrients whule being in a deficit no?

 

[chadisbeingmade]

kinda hard to get all esseintail nutrients whule being in a deficit no?

meats, eggs, organs, raw dairy. only the daily here may be considered dense in calories.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Correct. I forgot to mention that consuming too little protein and some fats would have the same effect as having too large a caloric deficit-- both would result in loss of lean tissue.

yes hugh protein is mandatory. any idea what amount of animal fat your shouldn’t go below. was thinking around 100g daily minimum?

and by bone loss you mean loss of Bone Mineral Density correct?

 

[Erikjfl]

yes hugh protein is mandatory. any idea what amount of animal fat your shouldn’t go below. was thinking around 100g daily minimum?

0.5 g per kg to keep your hormones in checkt but idk how much for optimal developement .Me personally ive been usin 1g per kg so i have enough carbohyrdates to perfom in the gym

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Cooking method, temperature and duration are all things to keep in mind. We've been lied to that raw meat in itself is dangerous to us humans.

At the bare minimum, carnivore diet with high quality, non processed meat and ideal cooking method to preserve as much nutrient as possible. I think steaming is good (or at least better than other normie ways of cooking) but could be wrong.

Water with electrolyte also and all animal products including eggs.

Bare minimum though imo.

Do you buy electolyte powder? or you make your own? like add some celtic salt, potassium chloride, magnesium glycinate in water?

 

[britshcel]

Do you buy electolyte powder? or you make your own? like add some celtic salt, potassium chloride, magnesium glycinate in water?

Celtic salt is good. Put a pinch of it on your tongue and then drink some purified water.

 

[chadisbeingmade]

Celtic salt is good. Put a pinch of it on your tongue and then drink some purified water.

i’ve been mixing in the magnesium and potassium also. i think just water and salt alone may be dehydrating. water alone is dehydrating.

 

[Part-Time Chad]

yes hugh protein is mandatory. any idea what amount of animal fat your shouldn’t go below. was thinking around 100g daily minimum?

and by bone loss you mean loss of Bone Mineral Density correct?

Yes, I mean mineral density.

I use the classic 40/40/20 diet when doing a cut. It seems to get the best results for the sacrifice made. There are other, more extreme diets, that probably get marginally better results, but they're not worth the extra sacrifice, in my mind.

 

[UWILLNEVERKNOW8]

Asking out of my own curiosity and knowledge. I’m over the age it even matters.

Is calorie surplus needed, or does it not matter if you’re in a deficit for example, just that you get enough nutrients from high nutrient dense foods like meats, eggs, fish etc?

All kids back in the day used to be skinny and shredded, not fat like most now, and they were well developed, at least more than now, despite low bf.

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