Do I need bimax or genio?

[keaganken]

I would rather not get bimax but I dont mind getting a genio which I think I need more, but please let me know

 

[LEFORT17]

I would rather not get bimax but I dont mind getting a genio which I think I need more, but please let me know

genio, infras, rhino and otoplastic

 

[keaganken]

genio, infras, rhino and otoplastic

what you think I can ascend to?

 

[LEFORT17]

what you think I can ascend to?

to a very good looking man

 

[keaganken]

to a very good looking man

ahaha thanks bro

 

[dnrwarrior11]

otoplasty biggest priority, bimax, and infra implants (if still lacking under eye support after bimax) + softmaxxing afterward.

dont listen to the other retard telling u to get a rhino for a +0.1 smv boost

 

[keaganken]

otoplasty biggest priority, bimax, and infra implants (if still lacking under eye support after bimax) + softmaxxing afterward.

dont listen to the other retard telling u to get a rhino for a +0.1 smv boost

how big of a psl boost can otoplasty give you? or even appeal boost.
also what about genio isn't my chin recessed?
bimax with ccw rotation i assume? I was afraid of getting bimax js cause its expensive and genio otplasty etc is so much cheaper i can get them easy but bimax will take a while.
Rhino i should get eventually i guess for the 0.1 boost but can get that last then?

 

[LEFORT17]

otoplasty biggest priority, bimax, and infra implants (if still lacking under eye support after bimax) + softmaxxing afterward.

dont listen to the other retard telling u to get a rhino for a +0.1 smv boost

dont get mad over some random guy on a forum challenge lvl impossible

 

[LEFORT17]

how big of a psl boost can otoplasty give you? or even appeal boost.
also what about genio isn't my chin recessed?
bimax with ccw rotation i assume? I was afraid of getting bimax js cause its expensive and genio otplasty etc is so much cheaper i can get them easy but bimax will take a while.
Rhino i should get eventually i guess for the 0.1 boost but can get that last then?

the whole bimax process is 1 1/2 years-2 years with braces. if you got good teeth position you can also go for surgery first. you still DONT need bimax get your 8-10mm genio and ur good

 

[dnrwarrior11]

how big of a psl boost can otoplasty give you? or even appeal boost.

a good amount, especially cuz ur ears look a bit odd.

also what about genio isn't my chin recessed?

bimax involves a genio advancement i believe

bimax with ccw rotation i assume?

yes

Rhino i should get eventually i guess for the 0.1 boost but can get that last then?

probably wont boost u anything, and if anything u might not get a boost or even might look worse if u get botched.

ur nose is slightly bulbous but who gives a fuck it still is in line with your medial canthus

 

[dnrwarrior11]

dont get mad over some random guy on a forum challenge lvl impossible

im not mad your just autistic.

making this guy waste money for a surgery that will barely get him any ROI... mirin iq

 

[geenk worg]

Genio. A big genio actually.

 

[keaganken]

a good amount, especially cuz ur ears look a bit odd.

bimax involves a genio advancement i believe

yes

probably wont boost u anything, and if anything u might not get a boost or even might look worse if u get botched.

ur nose is slightly bulbous but who gives a fuck it still is in line with your medial canthus

do you think I could cop out with a genio instead of bimax? or do I NEED the bimax to properly ascend? just cause its like 2k vs 12k for genio vs bimax basically

 

[LEFORT17]

im not mad your just autistic.

making this guy waste money for a surgery that will barely get him any ROI... mirin iq

even thought about the bimax you recommended him which while widden his alar base even more? only retards on this forum

 

[Epochs]

The trimax gods are hidden in the everest mountain climb the mountain then jump down from the secret hole to access them

 

[LEFORT17]

Genio. A big genio actually.

8-10mm

 

[geenk worg]

8-10mm

Yes indeed

 

[keaganken]

Genio. A big genio actually.

8-10mm

can 8-10mm genio improve my front profile too?

 

[dnrwarrior11]

even thought about the bimax you recommended him which while widden his alar base even more? only retards on this forum

LEFORT17​

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hes not gonna lose anything from 0.5 mms added on his alar base width jfl

either way, the increase in fwhr will balance it out. please stop being low iq

 

[LEFORT17]

can 8-10mm genio improve my front profile too?

if you got sagging skin around your chin/jawline yeah maybe; side while improve hard

 

[geenk worg]

can 8-10mm genio improve my front profile too?

Yes, would improve symmetry

 

[keaganken]

LEFORT17​

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hes not gonna lose anything from 0.5 mms added on his alar base width jfl

either way, the increase in fwhr will balance it out. please stop being low iq

what is fwhr?

 

[LEFORT17]

LEFORT17​

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JoinedApr 8, 2025Posts229Reputation135

hes not gonna lose anything from 0.5 mms added on his alar base width jfl

either way, the increase in fwhr will balance it out. please stop being low iq

you are suggesting this guy a bimax (where you think it includes a genio) for a movement which a genio can do too. YUP lets get ready for the 1-2years process

 

[dnrwarrior11]

what is fwhr?

facial width to height ratio

 

[dnrwarrior11]

you are suggesting this guy a bimax (where you think it includes a genio) for a movement which a genio can do too. YUP lets get ready for the 1-2years process

never said for certainty that it includes a genio. please read what i said before making a remark.

bimax involves a genio advancement i believe

if i need to make the font bigger i can

and either way, this guy is lacking midface projection which an infra orbital implant alone would not do. just lol at ur iq

 

[LEFORT17]

never said for certainty that it includes a genio. please read what i said before making a remark.

if i need to make the font bigger i can

and either way, this guy is lacking midface projection which an infra orbital implant alone would not do. just lol at ur iq

all that typing and still nothing this guy really said

 

[exopsl]

I would rather not get bimax but I dont mind getting a genio which I think I need more, but please let me know

Both plus many others

 

[dnrwarrior11]

all that typing and still nothing this guy really said

doesnt make sense, tldr stop being retarded

 

[keaganken]

Both plus many others

I think ima just cop out with genio, otoplasty, buccal fat removal then cope with whatever the outcome is, i think that should make me atleast like HMTN

 

[exopsl]

I think ima just cop out with genio, otoplasty, buccal fat removal then cope with whatever the outcome is, i think that should make me atleast like HMTN

Why get buccal fat just get lean bro

 

[LEFORT17]

doesnt make sense, tldr stop being retarded

your typing too much for the little knowledge you got

 

[keaganken]

Why get buccal fat just get lean bro

im alrdy quite lean

 

[SkeetNeet]

Rightly or wrongly, people less recessed than you do get trimax. I think a more projected maxilla would help you. Possibly add in infras to top it off. But don’t listen to me.

Either way, despite your ‘flaws’, you’re looking decent already imo and I think if you make the right choices you will look very good.

 

[LEFORT17]

Rightly or wrongly, people less recessed than you do get trimax. I think a more projected maxilla would help you. Possibly add in infras to top it off. But don’t listen to me.

Either way, despite your ‘flaws’, you’re looking decent already imo and I think if you make the right choices you will look very good.

if he does have a narrow palate, sleep/breathing issues, he can def go for a bimax. It probably be the most time wrecking prodecure on his list of surgeries

 

[dnrwarrior11]

your typing too much for the little knowledge you got

for the little knowledge i have? u just recommended a rhinoplasty which would give him close to 0 ROI...

clearly your ragebaiting, theres no other explanation or ur ego is just to fragile to recognize that you're wrong.

hes lacking midface projection, has a long midface, recessed chin, and bad under eye support which is going to be fixed with bimax with ccw rotation advancement. genio for chin obviously, and if hes still lacking under eye support after he can get infra implants/fat grafts. his ears are sticking out, particularly the right ear (picture may be inverted but im assuming its the right ear) which will be solved with an otoplasty. (just made this to clear everything up and make sure you're reading this correctly)

finally, health indicators, post surgery, will be fixed to complete his ascension.

@keaganken thoughts?

 

[LEFORT17]

for the little knowledge i have? u just recommended a rhinoplasty which would give him close to 0 ROI...

clearly your ragebaiting, theres no other explanation or ur ego is just to fragile to recognize that you're wrong.

hes lacking midface projection, has a long midface, recessed chin, and bad under eye support which is going to be fixed with bimax with ccw rotation advancement. genio for chin obviously, and if hes still lacking under eye support after he can get infra implants/fat grafts. his ears are sticking out, particularly the right ear (picture may be inverted but im assuming its the right ear) which will be solved with an otoplasty. (just made this to clear everything up and make sure you're reading this correctly)

finally, health indicators, post surgery, will be fixed to complete his ascension.

@keaganken thoughts?

under eye support,long midface and bimax ccw in the same sentence

 

[dnrwarrior11]

under eye support and bimax ccw in the same sentence

downgrowth can cause bad under eye support

 

[LEFORT17]

downgrowth can cause bad under eye support

long midface changed by bimax ccw is some crazy shit my guy, which surgeon told you that

 

[SkeetNeet]

if he does have a narrow palate, sleep/breathing issues, he can def go for a bimax. It probably be the most time wrecking prodecure on his list of surgeries

Yeah functional issues change things. The scary thing is that a lot of people aren’t aware of how they’re functioning sub optimally as their current state is all they know. The symptoms can also start appearing more as you start getting older.

Definitely a time consuming, potentially frustrating process though.

 

[dnrwarrior11]

long midface changed by bimax ccw is some crazy shit my guy, which surgeon told you that

debunked you again. keep arguing

 

[LEFORT17]

Yeah functional issues change things. The scary thing is that a lot of people aren’t aware of how they’re functioning sub optimally as their current state is all they know. The symptoms can also start appearing more as you start getting older.

Definitely a time consuming, potentially frustrating process though.

100%! Getting a consultation with a maxfac can def give you detailed analysis.

 

[LEFORT17]

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debunked you again. keep arguing

@lurking truecel this guy thinks lefort 1 standard ccw bimax will do shit to this guys midface

 

[LEFORT17]

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debunked you again. keep arguing

you gotta stop rage baiting atp go scroll through your tiktoks

 

[dnrwarrior11]

@lurking truecel this guy thinks lefort 1 standard ccw bimax will do shit to this guys midface

lefort 1 cut btw

 

[LEFORT17]

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debunked you again. keep arguing

do you know what a MIDFACE is and where the lefort 1 cut ends?

 

[dnrwarrior11]

do you know what a MIDFACE is and where the lefort 1 cut ends?

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lefort 1 cut btw

^^^^^^^^^

 

[MagicalWaves]

genio, infras, rhino and otoplastic

jusst say bimaxx G

 

[LEFORT17]

^^^^^^^^^

are we looking at the same picture?

 

[keaganken]

for the little knowledge i have? u just recommended a rhinoplasty which would give him close to 0 ROI...

clearly your ragebaiting, theres no other explanation or ur ego is just to fragile to recognize that you're wrong.

hes lacking midface projection, has a long midface, recessed chin, and bad under eye support which is going to be fixed with bimax with ccw rotation advancement. genio for chin obviously, and if hes still lacking under eye support after he can get infra implants/fat grafts. his ears are sticking out, particularly the right ear (picture may be inverted but im assuming its the right ear) which will be solved with an otoplasty. (just made this to clear everything up and make sure you're reading this correctly)

finally, health indicators, post surgery, will be fixed to complete his ascension.

@keaganken thoughts?

I was hoping to gaslight myself into not needing a bimax cause its most expensive on my list and takes ages but tbf, I mouthbreathe a ton my friends complain about it, and my breathing is quite bad so maybe would fix that too I also have an ever so slightly gummy smile so maybe I should get it but i rlllyyy dont wanna save up 12k for one surgery lol

 

[dnrwarrior11]

are we looking at the same picture?

its a slightly higher lefort 1 cut... yet still classed as lefort 1

keep arguing though