Do I require a BSSO or genioplasty?

[snotdropper]

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[Timmy the last]

Orbital decompression would higher ROI than any jaw procedures in your case. A genio would be retarded and a BSSO would be even more retarded. You might be an SFScel though, send a photo of your smile, just a normal smile

 

[Timmy the last]

wow he does. OP should take a look at thes

There was also a clip of Frank admitting Taban advised against it

 

[Timmy the last]

Your jaw isn't the problem your eye area is

Everyone has told me this even BPillers beyond org

 

[BronzeSpartan2]

I thought Frank had some damage to his sight. In the court filings the prosecution said "Frank became near-blind" (read text in the images attached to this thread). I think frank has got freakish not because of his Taban orbital decompression, but because of the surgeons who restored his sight, uh "Dr Kashima", like you said. Rehab said Frank was initially optimistic when he showed his vlog with bandages on his cheeks and stuff.

Guh, I'm so lost on the facts of the matter. I should shut up.

Frank is a mentalcel, just look at his subreddit, I wouldn’t completely trust his words. Look at what he wrote in his lawsuit against Based Bodyworks lmao:

Frank had post-op double vision yes. I believe this is because Taban uses older techniques or he may have affected the orbital strut doing the medial wall decompression.

Here’s what I believe he did wrong when it came to restoring his appearance:

- First Frank got the surgery with Taban, his medial wall got excessively decompressed, and this lack of medial wall support meant his IPD narrowed

- Then he got a strabismus surgery, which straightens the eye muscles. He got multiple of them in fact. Strabismus surgery is usually a very successful procedure, which usually corrects persistent double vision in 97% of cases. But this wouldn’t make his appearance go back to normal, because he’s lacking support on the medial wall.

- He then got an orbital reconstruction, which misaligns his eye muscles again. Now he has to undo what he did with the previous strabismus surgeries.

The better approach would have been orbital reconstruction first and then strabismus surgery after if needed.

We also have to remember that Taban decided upon doing a medial wall decompression as well literally the day before the surgery. He upcharged Frank by 10k. Any major last minute change like this by a surgeon should always be a red flag. What we can learn from his case is to never blindly trust a surgeon, get multiple opinions and decide. Also just because a surgeon is expensive or charges a lot, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they are going to be good.

 

[Lookologist003]

He upcharged Frank by 10k.

What a tragic story. Just missteps all over the place. It definitely is one to remember.

Look at what he wrote in his lawsuit against Based Bodyworks lmao:

He is mental, no denying that.

So @BronzeSpartan2 do you think OP would just need lateral wall. It must have a serve lapse in Taban's judgement to suggest that Frank get medial wall. And how does OP go about getting hold a surgeon to do this. I guess it would cost about the same as a bimax, or maybe a little cheaper.

 

[Timmy the last]

So @

@BronzeSpartan2 do you think OP would just need lateral wall. It must have a serve lapse in Taban's judgement to suggest that Frank get medial wall. And how does OP go about getting hold a surgeon to do this. I guess it would cost about the same as a bimax, or maybe a little cheaper.

OP gonna statusmax his way to get the money to do this

 

[BronzeSpartan2]

What a tragic story. Just missteps all over the place. It definitely is one to remember.


He is mental, no denying that.

So @BronzeSpartan2 do you think OP would just need lateral wall. It must have a serve lapse in Taban's judgement to suggest that Frank get medial wall. And how does OP go about getting hold a surgeon to do this. I guess it would cost about the same as a bimax, or maybe a little cheaper.

It depends on the anatomical structure of his orbits. A lateral wall decompression (or a single wall floor decompression done by Vrcek) is likely to be enough for OP. According to Douglas, only 1/1000 patients need both a lateral and medial decompression to get a good result (for non-TED).

For OD, I’d only recommend going to the best oculoplastic surgeons who do the procedure regularly (more than 100 orbital decompressions performed per year) and do not go to general plastic surgeons. I recommended some good surgeons above (although note I don’t know much about Gonçalves, so I can’t recommend him for surgery).

It’s an expensive surgery for sure but it’s definitely worth it imo.

 

[Lookologist003]

According to Douglas, only 1/1000 patients need both a lateral and medial decompression to get a good result (for non-TED).

Well that's encouraging.

For OD

I meant more on how do you convince a surgeon when you're not indicated? You said Hertel score is no good, but do the best eye surgeons agree and do cosmetic OD in such cases?

OP gonna statusmax his way to get the money to do this

Shame you're not as lucky as the posters here who got their mum to buy them their genioplasty and rhinoplasty.

 

[goku21]

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