Do I require a BSSO or genioplasty?

[snotdropper]

post ceph

 

[Timmy the last]

Orbital decompression would higher ROI than any jaw procedures in your case. A genio would be retarded and a BSSO would be even more retarded. You might be an SFScel though, send a photo of your smile, just a normal smile

 

[Timmy the last]

wow he does. OP should take a look at thes

There was also a clip of Frank admitting Taban advised against it

 

[Timmy the last]

Your jaw isn't the problem your eye area is

Everyone has told me this even BPillers beyond org

 

[BronzeSpartan2]

I thought Frank had some damage to his sight. In the court filings the prosecution said "Frank became near-blind" (read text in the images attached to this thread). I think frank has got freakish not because of his Taban orbital decompression, but because of the surgeons who restored his sight, uh "Dr Kashima", like you said. Rehab said Frank was initially optimistic when he showed his vlog with bandages on his cheeks and stuff.

Guh, I'm so lost on the facts of the matter. I should shut up.

Frank is a mentalcel, just look at his subreddit, I wouldn’t completely trust his words. Look at what he wrote in his lawsuit against Based Bodyworks lmao:

Frank had post-op double vision yes. I believe this is because Taban uses older techniques or he may have affected the orbital strut doing the medial wall decompression.

Here’s what I believe he did wrong when it came to restoring his appearance:

- First Frank got the surgery with Taban, his medial wall got excessively decompressed, and this lack of medial wall support meant his IPD narrowed

- Then he got a strabismus surgery, which straightens the eye muscles. He got multiple of them in fact. Strabismus surgery is usually a very successful procedure, which usually corrects persistent double vision in 97% of cases. But this wouldn’t make his appearance go back to normal, because he’s lacking support on the medial wall.

- He then got an orbital reconstruction, which misaligns his eye muscles again. Now he has to undo what he did with the previous strabismus surgeries.

The better approach would have been orbital reconstruction first and then strabismus surgery after if needed.

We also have to remember that Taban decided upon doing a medial wall decompression as well literally the day before the surgery. He upcharged Frank by 10k. Any major last minute change like this by a surgeon should always be a red flag. What we can learn from his case is to never blindly trust a surgeon, get multiple opinions and decide. Also just because a surgeon is expensive or charges a lot, it doesn’t necessarily mean that they are going to be good.

 

[Lookologist003]

He upcharged Frank by 10k.

What a tragic story. Just missteps all over the place. It definitely is one to remember.

Look at what he wrote in his lawsuit against Based Bodyworks lmao:

He is mental, no denying that.

So @BronzeSpartan2 do you think OP would just need lateral wall. It must have a serve lapse in Taban's judgement to suggest that Frank get medial wall. And how does OP go about getting hold a surgeon to do this. I guess it would cost about the same as a bimax, or maybe a little cheaper.

 

[Timmy the last]

So @

@BronzeSpartan2 do you think OP would just need lateral wall. It must have a serve lapse in Taban's judgement to suggest that Frank get medial wall. And how does OP go about getting hold a surgeon to do this. I guess it would cost about the same as a bimax, or maybe a little cheaper.

OP gonna statusmax his way to get the money to do this

 

[BronzeSpartan2]

What a tragic story. Just missteps all over the place. It definitely is one to remember.


He is mental, no denying that.

So @BronzeSpartan2 do you think OP would just need lateral wall. It must have a serve lapse in Taban's judgement to suggest that Frank get medial wall. And how does OP go about getting hold a surgeon to do this. I guess it would cost about the same as a bimax, or maybe a little cheaper.

It depends on the anatomical structure of his orbits. A lateral wall decompression (or a single wall floor decompression done by Vrcek) is likely to be enough for OP. According to Douglas, only 1/1000 patients need both a lateral and medial decompression to get a good result (for non-TED).

For OD, I’d only recommend going to the best oculoplastic surgeons who do the procedure regularly (more than 100 orbital decompressions performed per year) and do not go to general plastic surgeons. I recommended some good surgeons above (although note I don’t know much about Gonçalves, so I can’t recommend him for surgery).

It’s an expensive surgery for sure but it’s definitely worth it imo.

 

[Lookologist003]

According to Douglas, only 1/1000 patients need both a lateral and medial decompression to get a good result (for non-TED).

Well that's encouraging.

For OD

I meant more on how do you convince a surgeon when you're not indicated? You said Hertel score is no good, but do the best eye surgeons agree and do cosmetic OD in such cases?

OP gonna statusmax his way to get the money to do this

Shame you're not as lucky as the posters here who got their mum to buy them their genioplasty and rhinoplasty.

 

[goku21]

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Fuck u no scans no answer

 

[Timmy the last]

Fuck u no scans no answer

What scans wym?

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Why

Why orbital decomp and not implants

Implants ain’t saving your shit I told you even in socials,Your eyes are walking out of your skull rent free,Get them pushed deep into your skull first

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

What scans wym?

Ceph and CT scans

 

[Timmy the last]

Ceph and CT scans

Bhai implants save

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Bhai implants save
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They dont save yo eyes you need OD

 

[Timmy the last]

They dont save yo eyes you need OD

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

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Yo eyes still look bad

 

[Timmy the last]

Yo eyes still look bad

Mogs me currently and will increase life quality. Thats what matters

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Mogs me currently and will increase life quality. Thats what matters

You genuinely act like a grey and it makes me so mad

 

[zurrity]

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nah work on that browridge though, heres a morph

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

nah work on that browridge though, heres a morph
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He should work on orbital decompression

 

[Timmy the last]

nah work on that browridge though, heres a morph
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Brow ridge is priority

 

[Timmy the last]

He should work on orbital decompression

I might need both. I need more research

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

I might need both. I need more research

There is no mgiht,You 100% need an orbital decompression,Im telling this for your own good

 

[Timmy the last]

There is no mgiht,You 100% need an orbital decompression,Im telling this for your own good

U have a point. Do i do both OD and supraorbital implants?

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

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U have a point. Do i do both OD and supraorbital implants?

You do both

 

[Timmy the last]

You do both

Do I prioritize doing rhino+genio first because thats closer to my budget (5-10k $) then OD+implants which is around 20-30k dollars?

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

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U have a point. Do i do both OD and supraorbital implants?

Your eyes must be like this in your skull

 

[Timmy the last]

Your wyes must be like this in your skull

When I boxed id hurt my eyes so much dude. Youre right. This isn’t how its supposed to be. OD and supra/infra implants

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

When I did

When I boxed id hurt my eyes so much dude. Youre right. This isn’t how its supposed to be. OD and supra/infra implants

In karate I would get damage on my brow and infras.Now you get it

 

[Timmy the last]

When I did

karate I would get damage on my brown and infras.Now you get it

Bhai but what do I do? Save and spend on rhino+genio first (waay cheaper) or wait longer for the eye area

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Bhai but what do I do? Save and spend on rhino+genio first (waay cheaper) or wait longer for the eye area

Js start with cheaper surgeries

 

[Timmy the last]

Js start with cheaper surgeries

So gey rhino+genio first, then do the main goal of the eye area

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Js start with cheaper surgeries

Don’t stop until yo eyes look like this

 

[Timmy the last]

Don’t stop until yo eyes look like this

Bro he actually has very rounded eyes, its just they’re deep set and also he has projected orbitals, so they aren’t like mine. Holy shit this could be me after 25k $

 

[Davud.isbarxanli.04]

Bro he actually has very rounded eyes, its just they’re deep set and also he has projected orbitals, so they aren’t like mine. Holy shit this could be me after 25k $

He has better malar area / infras than me for sure