DO NOT LISTEN TO MAINSTREAM FITNESS ADVICE

[NitoRump]

Honestly, before I started working out, I did not know what to do, as these people make this shit super fucking complicated for no reason.
One says do this, the other says no do that, the other no actually this is the correct way.
"You need one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight"
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?
I weigh 185 pounds, that is 185 grams of pure protein I have to fucking consume?
No fucking way. There is no way you can get that much protein through eating real food. You need like 700 grams of chicken breast everyday, no way I am gorging on that much chicken.
I eat a balanced diet, I eat meat everyday, but not to that extent. I also don't count calories as that shit is gay.
I also will never take supplements, not even protein powder. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with it, but I want my physique 100% to come from real food.
"Take creatine bro, its safe. Muh the studies" blah blah blah.
Where have we come as humans that we need some sort of powder from fuck knows where, to increase muscle size.
I am 6'1, 185 pounds, 13% bodyfat only from doing pushups and pullups at home (I have one of those door frame things for pullups).
No, I don't want a pat on the back, I am saying this because I see so many motherfuckers with insane complicated workout routines, diets and supplements.
You do not need any of that shit.
Bulk>Train until failure, eat slight surplus of calories
Cut>Train until failure, eat slight deficit of calories.
Literally. This is all I did and I look better than most gym goers. (I can pm pics if you want proof).
I also intentionally keep my training bodyweight only.
I have no scientific basis to back this up, but I strongly believe weight training (especially for pure hypertrophy like we are talking) ages the fuck out of you
Again, no solid proof, but every person I know who is a gym junkie (not on roids), looks at least 5 years older than they are.
Train, eat decent food, take good rest. All you need to increase muscle size.
So many dorks complicating shit for no reason.

 

[Deleted member 45760]

i just listen to mike mentzer

 

[cytoplasm]

The worst thing they advocate is too much volume and leg training

 

[Tallest person here]

The worst thing they advocate is too much volume and leg training

what's wrong with leg trading

 

[NitoRump]

i just listen to mike mentzer

he is based

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

The worst thing they advocate is too much volume and leg training

Elab

 

[maou]

you are right about aging, if you work hard af in gym u will age faster from all that stress.

 

[cytoplasm]

what's wrong with leg trading

Elab

Doing 4 sets of squats, deadlifts, leg extensions, leg curls, hip thursts, leg press, and calf raises all in one workout and then 2-3 times a week leads to this

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

"You need one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight"

.6-1 gram per pound of lean muscle

You would be eating 110-150g or smth, very easy goal i hit it daily without eating protien dense foods (kinda) and i only eat 1800cals a day cuz I’m cutting

I also don't count calories as that shit is gay.

Utterly and confidently wrong

I also will never take supplements, not even protein powder. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with it, but I want my physique 100% to come from real food.

Protien powder is “real food” retard, just get it from a good source, santa cruz medicinals has good ones

Where tf do u think the protien comes from? Outer space?

"Take creatine bro, its safe. Muh the studies" blah blah blah.
Where have we come as humans that we need some sort of powder from fuck knows where, to increase muscle size.

True i dont like creatine bloats ur face but nothing inherently wrong with it

Just get it from meat ig,
Also it’s not a fucking chemical

I am 6'1, 185 pounds, 13% bodyfat only from doing pushups and pullups at home (I have one of those door frame things for pullups).
No, I don't want a pat on the back,

I am saying this because I see so many motherfuckers with insane complicated workout routines, diets and supplements.

Yeah people tend to over complicate, but ur utterly wrong about diets and supplements

You do not need any of that shit.
Bulk>Train until failure, eat slight surplus of calories
Cut>Train until failure, eat slight deficit of calories.
Literally.

You literally need to count cals for this, esp cutting

This is all I did and I look better than most gym goers. (I can pm pics if you want proof).

Genetics but pm im curious

I also intentionally keep my training bodyweight only.
I have no scientific basis to back this up, but I strongly believe weight training (especially for pure hypertrophy like we are talking) ages the fuck out of you

Diet

Again, no solid proof, but every person I know who is a gym junkie (not on roids), looks at least 5 years older than they are.

Diet

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

you are right about aging, if you work hard af in gym u will age faster from all that stress.

How tf does it age you? Its the same as working calisthenics

 

[Orc]

I follow the dumbest program imaginable and everyone that disagrees with it is smaller than me and it makes them angry.

 

[NitoRump]

.6-1 gram per pound of lean muscle

Its still too much, I just eat meat thats it

Protien powder is “real food” retard, just get it from a good source, santa cruz medicinals has good ones

Where tf do u think the protien comes from? Outer space?

Who knows what the fuck they add into that powder. Anything processed into a powder form I do not believe.
Its like skincare products, supposedly helping your skin but instead just making it worse

Yeah people tend to over complicate, but ur utterly wrong about diets and supplements

You literally need to count cals for this, esp cutting

You do NOT need to count calories.
Just listen to your body. When cutting, just make sure to always feel just a bit hungry after a meal. Aint hard to do

Genetics but pm im curious

Imma pm you now

 

[hardstyle]

bros complaining about only 185g LOL

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

Its still too much, I just eat meat thats it

You’re probably eating ur protien goal anyway, ur eating more protien than u think

Who knows what the fuck they add into that powder. Anything processed into a powder form I do not believe.
Its like skincare products, supposedly helping your skin but instead just making it worse

Cmon bro just read the ingredients and get on with it

You do NOT need to count calories.
Just listen to your body. When cutting, just make sure to always feel just a bit hungry after a meal. Aint hard to do

If that works for you go for it, i just like to eat as much as i possibly can while still losing weight

Also i hit my macros eating “real food”

Only non real food i eat is 0% yogurt occasionally

Imma pm you now

got it

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

bros complaining about only 185g LOL

185 is pretty annoying to hit ngl

 

[i_love_roosters]

Ok pal, I'm gonna listen to a random greycel on a homoerotic Indian forum

 

[NitoRump]

Ok pal, I'm gonna listen to a random greycel on a homoerotic Indian forum

apparantly only correct way to judge someone's information is how much posts/life rotted away on forum he has

 

[i_love_roosters]

apparantly only correct way to judge someone's information is how much posts/life rotted away on forum he has

Duhh

 

[maou]

How tf does it age you? Its the same as working calisthenics

complete different things, pushing big ass weights age you, I personally know because all fellas who look 20 at 30+ never worked out in their lifes

 

[ShawarmaFilth]

complete different things, pushing big ass weights age you, I personally know because all fellas who look 20 at 30+ never worked out in their lifes

You realise at some point you’re gonna have to progressively overload right?

You’re eventually gonna have to wear a weight vest or something once pushups become too easy to fail in 8-12 reps

 

[IAMNOTANINCEL]

dont listen to any fitness advice and never lift

 

[5.5psl]

that is 185 grams of pure protein I have to fucking consume?

It's not much
Very easy to go 200+ if not a vegan

 

[piec]

I follow the dumbest program imaginable and everyone that disagrees with it is smaller than me and it makes them angry.

the ppl or other upper lower splits or shit like this always makes me laugh, all that additional effort and time for 0.1% more muscle and very often even less as they overtrain

 

[ChadOrDeath]

Training in the gym for aesthetics without elite genetics is gigacope (Even worse as a natural)

''Yeah bro i have been training for 10+years, 6 days a week, counting macros and following my super strict science brad schoenfeldnigger based routine!!!!''

>Proceeds to get mogged by the average 18 yo sarm goblin with decent genetics

 

[NitoRump]

Training in the gym for aesthetics without elite genetics is gigacope (Even worse as a natural)

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''Yeah bro i have been training for 10+years, 6 days a week, counting macros and following my super strict science brad schoenfeldnigger based routine!!!!''

>Proceeds to get mogged by the average 18 yo sarm goblin with decent genetics

this is true, with just over a year of only pushups and pullups I look better than most people who go the gym.
Its genetics, so no need to follow cope mainstream fitness advice

 

[NitoRump]

the ppl or other upper lower splits or shit like this always makes me laugh, all that additional effort and time for 0.1% more muscle and very often even less as they overtrain

its cringe.
"split this split that"
"eat this eat that"
"take this supplement bro"
just eat good food and train hard. jfl people make shit way more complicated than it needs to be nowadays

 

[Bigbootylover45]

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Honestly, before I started working out, I did not know what to do, as these people make this shit super fucking complicated for no reason.
One says do this, the other says no do that, the other no actually this is the correct way.
"You need one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight"
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?
I weigh 185 pounds, that is 185 grams of pure protein I have to fucking consume?
No fucking way. There is no way you can get that much protein through eating real food. You need like 700 grams of chicken breast everyday, no way I am gorging on that much chicken.
I eat a balanced diet, I eat meat everyday, but not to that extent. I also don't count calories as that shit is gay.
I also will never take supplements, not even protein powder. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with it, but I want my physique 100% to come from real food.
"Take creatine bro, its safe. Muh the studies" blah blah blah.
Where have we come as humans that we need some sort of powder from fuck knows where, to increase muscle size.
I am 6'1, 185 pounds, 13% bodyfat only from doing pushups and pullups at home (I have one of those door frame things for pullups).
No, I don't want a pat on the back, I am saying this because I see so many motherfuckers with insane complicated workout routines, diets and supplements.
You do not need any of that shit.
Bulk>Train until failure, eat slight surplus of calories
Cut>Train until failure, eat slight deficit of calories.
Literally. This is all I did and I look better than most gym goers. (I can pm pics if you want proof).
I also intentionally keep my training bodyweight only.
I have no scientific basis to back this up, but I strongly believe weight training (especially for pure hypertrophy like we are talking) ages the fuck out of you
Again, no solid proof, but every person I know who is a gym junkie (not on roids), looks at least 5 years older than they are.
Train, eat decent food, take good rest. All you need to increase muscle size.
So many dorks complicating shit for no reason.

can you stop farming for reps nigger

 

[NitoRump]

c

can you stop farming for reps nigger

I dont give a shit about that sort of thing, I am a full grown man lol.

 

[jordanisbetterthanu]

I follow the dumbest program imaginable and everyone that disagrees with it is smaller than me and it makes them angry.

What’s your dumb program??

 

[Maalik]

you are right about aging, if you work hard af in gym u will age faster from all that stress.

True the oxidative stress rapes all your body's cells and tissues, includen collagen.
I worked very hard in sports when i was a teenager and looked like a saggy grandma by age 18
I had to use tretinoin to look my age again

Many marathon runners look like corspes for this exact reason.

 

[MoggerM]

Honestly, before I started working out, I did not know what to do, as these people make this shit super fucking complicated for no reason.
One says do this, the other says no do that, the other no actually this is the correct way.
"You need one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight"
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?
I weigh 185 pounds, that is 185 grams of pure protein I have to fucking consume?
No fucking way. There is no way you can get that much protein through eating real food. You need like 700 grams of chicken breast everyday, no way I am gorging on that much chicken.
I eat a balanced diet, I eat meat everyday, but not to that extent. I also don't count calories as that shit is gay.
I also will never take supplements, not even protein powder. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with it, but I want my physique 100% to come from real food.
"Take creatine bro, its safe. Muh the studies" blah blah blah.
Where have we come as humans that we need some sort of powder from fuck knows where, to increase muscle size.
I am 6'1, 185 pounds, 13% bodyfat only from doing pushups and pullups at home (I have one of those door frame things for pullups).
No, I don't want a pat on the back, I am saying this because I see so many motherfuckers with insane complicated workout routines, diets and supplements.
You do not need any of that shit.
Bulk>Train until failure, eat slight surplus of calories
Cut>Train until failure, eat slight deficit of calories.
Literally. This is all I did and I look better than most gym goers. (I can pm pics if you want proof).
I also intentionally keep my training bodyweight only.
I have no scientific basis to back this up, but I strongly believe weight training (especially for pure hypertrophy like we are talking) ages the fuck out of you
Again, no solid proof, but every person I know who is a gym junkie (not on roids), looks at least 5 years older than they are.
Train, eat decent food, take good rest. All you need to increase muscle size.
So many dorks complicating shit for no reason.

Pm physique or kys

 

[NitoRump]

Pm physique or kys

sure fag

 

[sayi]

I follow the dumbest program imaginable and everyone that disagrees with it is smaller than me and it makes them angry.

What's is your program?

 

[NitoRump]

What's is your program?

What’s your dumb program??

he was obviously being ironic amd referencing my workout routine jfl

 

[jordanisbetterthanu]

he was obviously being ironic amd referencing my workout routine jfl

Subhuman routine jfl

 

[Gaygymmaxx]

I follow the dumbest program imaginable and everyone that disagrees with it is smaller than me and it makes them angry.

How do you train?

 

[longjohnmong]

bro, don't listen to mainstream advice. listen to my feverish rambling instead

 

[Deleted member 69666]

what's wrong with leg trading

leg training is fine but takes too long to recover from so you'll divert from upper body gains

 

[ㅤㅤㅤㅤClavicular]

You need .8-1g of protein per lb of bodyweight according to all literature tho

 

[cytoplasm]

You need .8-1g of protein per lb of bodyweight according to all literature tho

According to latest shit it's 0.7

 

[ㅤㅤㅤㅤClavicular]

According to latest shit it's 0.7

Saw natty in the title and clicked off

 

[Struggler03]

you are right about aging, if you work hard af in gym u will age faster from all that stress.

You are wrong, chronic stress over a long period of time causes aging, short term stress like from lifting helps in anti aging

 

[NitoRump]

You need .8-1g of protein per lb of bodyweight according to all literature tho

I don't eat nowhere near that amount and have done an impressive transformation in just 9 months with pullups and pushups.
At the end of the day muscle building is all genetic. Train until failure and eat meat, and you'll see results quickly.
If you don't it means your genetics ain't it.
(By genetics I mean all sorts of stuff like hormone production, androgen sensitivity, bone density, muscle insertions, frame, metabolism etc)

 

[8incheer]

Honestly, before I started working out, I did not know what to do, as these people make this shit super fucking complicated for no reason.
One says do this, the other says no do that, the other no actually this is the correct way.
"You need one gram of protein per pound of bodyweight"
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS?
I weigh 185 pounds, that is 185 grams of pure protein I have to fucking consume?
No fucking way. There is no way you can get that much protein through eating real food. You need like 700 grams of chicken breast everyday, no way I am gorging on that much chicken.
I eat a balanced diet, I eat meat everyday, but not to that extent. I also don't count calories as that shit is gay.
I also will never take supplements, not even protein powder. Not that there is anything inherently wrong with it, but I want my physique 100% to come from real food.
"Take creatine bro, its safe. Muh the studies" blah blah blah.
Where have we come as humans that we need some sort of powder from fuck knows where, to increase muscle size.
I am 6'1, 185 pounds, 13% bodyfat only from doing pushups and pullups at home (I have one of those door frame things for pullups).
No, I don't want a pat on the back, I am saying this because I see so many motherfuckers with insane complicated workout routines, diets and supplements.
You do not need any of that shit.
Bulk>Train until failure, eat slight surplus of calories
Cut>Train until failure, eat slight deficit of calories.
Literally. This is all I did and I look better than most gym goers. (I can pm pics if you want proof).
I also intentionally keep my training bodyweight only.
I have no scientific basis to back this up, but I strongly believe weight training (especially for pure hypertrophy like we are talking) ages the fuck out of you
Again, no solid proof, but every person I know who is a gym junkie (not on roids), looks at least 5 years older than they are.
Train, eat decent food, take good rest. All you need to increase muscle size.
So many dorks complicating shit for no reason.

proof

 

[NitoRump]

proof

sure

 

[bradpittshairline]

how long to get a respectable physique assuming diet is good + failure and high time under tension every session

 

[NitoRump]

how long to get a respectable physique assuming diet is good + failure and high time under tension every session

its all genetics.
I had a crazy transformation in 9 months because of good genetics.
As I said I only did pushups and pullups, and had an ok diet. Nothing special
So many factors like frame, muscle insertions, bone density, androgen sensitivity, metabolism etc etc

 

[bradpittshairline]

its all genetics.
I had a crazy transformation in 9 months because of good genetics.
As I said I only did pushups and pullups, and had an ok diet. Nothing special
So many factors like frame, muscle insertions, bone density, androgen sensitivity, metabolism etc etc

im a month in and some of my friends who are 8months and 1.5yr into gym said Im looking bigger, is that a good sign?

 

[NitoRump]

im a month in and some of my friends who are 8months and 1.5yr into gym said Im looking bigger, is that a good sign?

a month you will see no noticable result, its not enough to tell. probably its mostly fat you gained.
Wait 6 months and then you will be able to tell if you have good potential or not

 

[bradpittshairline]

a month you will see no noticable result, its not enough to tell. probably its mostly fat you gained.
Wait 6 months and then you will be able to tell if you have good potential or not

my weight is same and my waist dropped inches

I'm doing recomp from my shit diet last year, currently 5'11 70kg 29 inch waist (natty waist 27.5 but have belly fat)

yeah I'm consistent for life now. i think the biggest change was I had flat bird chest and within 3 weeks I developed pecs