Do you guys believe in calories?

[copemaxingll]

To sum extent yes but the way we measure them is bogus

 

[AgentAngularity]

Durrr guys do you believe in science

 

[copemaxingll]

Durrr guys do you believe in science

How is calories = science?

 

[ltngreyy]

To sum extent yes but the way we measure them is bogus

No

 

[AgentAngularity]

How is calories = science?

Obviously calories = science you fucking moron

What a retard

 

[copemaxingll]

No

Any reasoning?

 

[buccalfatremoval]

yes
You’re just a retard

 

[copemaxingll]

Obviously calories = science you fucking moron

What a retard

Holy fuck nigga u have a sub 90 iq intellect

 

[copemaxingll]

yes
You’re just a retard

Any reasoning?
Cause i dont think “retard” is a good one

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Actually im curious how do you think calories are measured

 

[AgentAngularity]

Holy fuck nigga u have a sub 90 iq intellect

Just look at this fucking retard. I just know you're obese. Loser.

 

[lemonnz]

I see no reason not to carb/protein = 4 calorie, fat = 9 calorie

 

[jeffersonmogs54321]

Nigga im sick and u talm bout calories nigga idgaf

 

[Stalker]

To sum extent yes but the way we measure them is bogus

how else does your body operate nigga ?

 

[infraorbidal]

To sum extent yes but the way we measure them is bogus

Bro watched one FACEIQ video

 

[copemaxingll]

Just look at this fucking retard. I just know you're obese. Loser.

No argument so im gonna insult you

 

[copemaxingll]

Bro watched one FACEIQ video

nope

 

[infraorbidal]

nope

Obviously calories are a thing dude

 

[niggaboy0321]

the hate you're getting is brutal, @Mods delete this thread for me

 

[copemaxingll]

Actually im curious how do you think calories are measured

Personally I think the way we measure calories just does not make sense, we blow food up in water and if the water goes up x amount of heat thats how much calorie that food has, tell me how this correlates to the human body

I see no reason not to carb/protein = 4 calorie, fat = 9 calorie

I don't think your body is gonna decide to store fat or use energy based on numerical digits that humans gave to food

Nigga im sick and u talm bout calories nigga idgaf

Sorry man

how else does your body operate nigga ?

Brain triggers your pancreas to release insulin to decide to spend that energy or save it as fat

 

[IronMike]

If you don't believe in caloric value you are either retarded or a latino woman

 

[copemaxingll]

the hate you're getting is brutal, @Mods delete this thread for me

Hate or not, calories terrible measurement for fat lose

 

[jeffersonmogs54321]

Sorry man

bro pray for me its bad wtf

 

[copemaxingll]

If you don't believe in caloric value you are either retarded or a latino woman

Can you tell me why I should?

 

[copemaxingll]

bro pray for me its bad wtf

Just ignore me lol

 

[IronMike]

Can you tell me why I should?

send picture of your physique and i'll tell you why

 

[jeffersonmogs54321]

Nigga boy u a fat bitch

 

[copemaxingll]

Obviously calories are a thing dude

Never said they aren’t, but the way we measure them is stupid

 

[copemaxingll]

send picture of your physique and i'll tell you why

Pm me

 

[infraorbidal]

Never said they aren’t, but the way we measure them is stupid

How come? As in surpluses and calorie deficits?

 

[liberiangrimreaper]

No, I’m a heterosexual male

 

[copemaxingll]

Nigga boy u a fat bitch

Im not obese but im not skinny

 

[yushmaxx]

To sum extent yes but the way we measure them is bogus

i remember doing a calorie lab in chem class seems pretty legit

 

[jeffersonmogs54321]

Im not obese but im not skinny

Bro stop eating wtf and i was tlaking to @niggaboy0321

 

[IronMike]

Pm me

thats not how this works....YOU pm ME.

 

[niggaboy0321]

Bro stop eating wtf and i was tlaking to @niggaboy0321

same niggas behind the screen

 

[jeffersonmogs54321]

same niggas behind the screen
View attachment 5255929

Ur literally an obese whale

 

[copemaxingll]

How come? As in surpluses and calorie deficits?

Peoples main argument for calorie counting is the law of thermodynamics, which makes the way we measure calorie relatively make sense. But the problem is humans don’t run on heat energy, we run on chemical energy called ATP.

This is why i think calorie is bullshit

 

[niggaboy0321]

Ur literally an obese whale

how? you can't even see me you fucking retard

 

[copemaxingll]

i remember doing a calorie lab in chem class seems pretty legit

Laws of thermodynamics don't apply to humans

 

[jeffersonmogs54321]

how? you can't even see me you fucking retard

Ur pfp is fucking shrek u prolly look like him nigga beast

 

[copemaxingll]

thats not how this works....YOU pm ME.

Okay fine since you want to see me so badly

 

[niggaboy0321]

Ur pfp is fucking shrek u prolly look like him nigga beast

having a shrek avi=fat? omfg you're an idiot, and I'm done responding to your bullshit posts

 

[jeffersonmogs54321]

having a shrek avi=fat? omfg you're an idiot, and I'm done responding to your bullshit posts

Yh fuck off lazy retard go read a fucking book

 

[infraorbidal]

Peoples main argument for calorie counting is the law of thermodynamics, which makes the way we measure calorie relatively make sense. But the problem is humans don’t run on heat energy, we run on chemical energy called ATP.

This is why i think calorie is bullshit

Dude, calories are simply a unit of energy.

The chemical potential energy stored within the molecular bonds of food is exactly what a calorimeter measures when converting that food into heat.

Then Through cellular respiration, our metabolism extracts this exact same chemical energy to synthesize those ATP molecules.

Thus, Because the first law of thermodynamics dictates that energy cannot be created or destroyed,

the total caloric energy entering the body inherently limits and dictates the amount of ATP available for biological function.


Saying
“calorie counting is invalid because we use ATP” is like saying you cannot measure the energy content of gasoline in gallons because a car engine runs on internal combustion pistons rather than a liquid.

The unit of measurement remains a precise reflection of the fuel's total payload.



Your argument is running on a false dichotomy

 

[buccalfatremoval]

Personally I think the way we measure calories just does not make sense, we blow food up in water and if the water goes up x amount of heat thats how much calorie that food has, tell me how this correlates to the human body

I don't think your body is gonna decide to store fat or use energy based on numerical digits that humans gave to food

Sorry man

Brain triggers your pancreas to release insulin to decide to spend that energy or save it as fat

Because your body burns/uses the calories in a similar manner for energy

 

[copemaxingll]

Dude, calories are simply a unit of energy.

The chemical potential energy stored within the molecular bonds of food is exactly what a calorimeter measures when converting that food into heat.

Then Through cellular respiration, our metabolism extracts this exact same chemical energy to synthesize those ATP molecules.

Thus, Because the first law of thermodynamics dictates that energy cannot be created or destroyed,

the total caloric energy entering the body inherently limits and dictates the amount of ATP available for biological function.


Saying
“calorie counting is invalid because we use ATP” is like saying you cannot measure the energy content of gasoline in gallons because a car engine runs on internal combustion pistons rather than a liquid.

The unit of measurement remains a precise reflection of the fuel's total payload.



Your argument is running on a false dichotomy

Yes energy can not be created or destroyed and that ATP is derived from the chemical energy in the food. But my issue is treating caloric values as exact 1 to 1 of usable biological energy. A calorimeter measures the total heat released from blowing up food, but humans don’t blow up the food. Different foods have different digestion costs, absorption rates, and metabolic fates. Protein has a higher thermic effect than fat or carbs, causing a large portion of its caloric value is lost during digestion.

The first law of thermodynamics is true, it does not mean that the food im eating has the same calories as the back of the label. Calories are useful to use as a approximation but they are not a perfect representation of biological energy availability

 

[infraorbidal]

Yes energy can not be created or destroyed and that ATP is derived from the chemical energy in the food. But my issue is treating caloric values as exact 1 to 1 of usable biological energy. A calorimeter measures the total heat released from blowing up food, but humans don’t blow up the food. Different foods have different digestion costs, absorption rates, and metabolic fates. Protein has a higher thermic effect than fat or carbs, causing a large portion of its caloric value is lost during digestion.

The first law of thermodynamics is true, it does not mean that the food im eating has the same calories as the back of the label. Calories are useful to use as a approximation but they are not a perfect representation of biological energy availability

I agree, you’re right about the thermic effect of food and digestive efficiency

Although you're misunderstanding how nutrition labels work.

The calories on a label aren't raw calorimeter data, they are calculated using the Atwater system which explicitly subtracts the energy lost in human digestion and waste.

While individual absorption rates and TEF vary slightly from person to person, the numbers on the back of the package are already engineered to represent metabolizable biological energy.

It's a highly functional baseline

 

[copemaxingll]

Because your body burns/uses the calories in a similar manner for energy

So when you eat food, ur stomach blows up the food in matter of minutes?

 

[yushmaxx]

Laws of thermodynamics don't apply to humans

is this ragebait