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How to know if YOU qualify for insured BIMAX!
thread created by @idont


This is a not fully a guide, rather a point in the right direction
to give you an idea of what chosen candidates usually have


THREAD OST;






Table of Contents

1.
Introduction
2.
Skeletal Indicators for qualification
3.
Conclusions and next steps for the future (TLDR INCLUDED)



1.
I
ntroduction


This guide is for youngcels looking to see if they can possibly qualify for an insured bimax as it isn't the cheapest treatment. After reading you can have a better idea whether you're able to qualify or not. (DO NOT TAKE THIS AS SCRIPTURE)



Almost every user knows what this is but I might aswell give a brief description just to make the thread more well rounded. Bimax or better known as double jaw surgery is a procedure where they correct jaw misalignment by repositioning the upper and lower jaw (mandible x maxilla) It addresses functional issues and maloclusion which is also extremely beneficial for aesthetics in most cases. (you were never meant to be a recessed pajeet :forcedsmile:)


(Please note that bimax U18 is not that common but I always see people asking if they would qualify blah blah blah so I thought why not make an informational thread for all.)

a reference showing that orthognathic surgery isnt really done until atleast 18 in men and atleast 16 in women (for the youngbucks that want it)

Minimum age for orthognathics according to the institute of maxillofacial surgery


2.
I
ndicators for qualification of surgery


Skeletal indications mainly consist of
1. Mandibular retrusion
2. Maxillary retrusion
3. Bimaxillary retrusion
4. Severe dental malocclusion i.e skeletal class 2/3


Dental/Orthodontics consideration

Dental class 2/3s are not chosen for bimax candidates because they are correctable by orthodontics alone, bimax is needed when its a severe SKELETAL problem.

IMPORTANT NOTE PLEASE READ
1.
As I stated earlier, if you have a mandibular retrusion it is an indicator for qualification but it does NOT mean you will be qualified. Minor jaw retrusions can be fixed orthodontically even if skeletal and bimax is usually reserved for severe skeletal malo that cause functional issues, cannot be corrected with ortho alone and result in significant facial imbalances
2.
Single vs double jaw BSSO considerations; some patients with only a mandibular retrusion obviously do not require BIMAX and they just need advancement if the maxilla is positioned well and vice versa. Bimax is chosen when both jaws, maxilla and mandible contribute greatly to the skeletal issue.


(Important side note)

the amount of advancement is needed to be safe and stable post-op
Excessive movement of one jaw can be unstable and risk other complications
some cases require movement of both jaws moderately rather than one jaw excessively.
What we deduce from this is surgeons consider facial measurements, airways, TMJ health and how much movement will be done.



Next steps, Conclusion, TLDR
Next steps;
Consult a maxillofacial surgeon/ortho for dental/skeletal evaluation
Get imaging done like a 3d scan or cephalometric (2d side xray diagonstic)
Monitor growth if youre u18 as they only consider if growth is near end


TLDR/CONCLUSION:
In conclusion, eligibility for persons under 18 is rare, people that qualify are people with severe skeletal problems, that cannot be alone corrected with orthodontics, that cause functional issues and that have facial/skeletal imbalance. Understand single/double jaw surgery, evaluate the extent of
movement and please be safe and I love yall


tags; @bossman @yussimania @Whiteboard7 @rraymond @Scandicel
 

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How to know if YOU qualify for insured BIMAX!
thread created by @idont


This is a not fully a guide, rather a point in the right direction
to give you an idea of what chosen candidates usually have


THREAD OST;






Table of Contents

1.
Introduction
2.
Skeletal Indicators for qualification
3.
Conclusions and next steps for the future (TLDR INCLUDED)



1.
I
ntroduction


This guide is for youngcels looking to see if they can possibly qualify for an insured bimax as it isn't the cheapest treatment. After reading you can have a better idea whether you're able to qualify or not. (DO NOT TAKE THIS AS SCRIPTURE)



Almost every user knows what this is but I might aswell give a brief description just to make the thread more well rounded. Bimax or better known as double jaw surgery is a procedure where they correct jaw misalignment by repositioning the upper and lower jaw (mandible x maxilla) It addresses functional issues and maloclusion which is also extremely beneficial for aesthetics in most cases. (you were never meant to be a recessed pajeet :forcedsmile:)


(Please note that bimax U18 is not that common but I always see people asking if they would qualify blah blah blah so I thought why not make an informational thread for all.)

a reference showing that orthognathic surgery isnt really done until atleast 18 in men and atleast 16 in women (for the youngbucks that want it)

Minimum age for orthognathics according to the institute of maxillofacial surgery


2.
I
ndicators for qualification of surgery


Skeletal indications mainly consist of
1. Mandibular retrusion
2. Maxillary retrusion
3. Bimaxillary retrusion
4. Severe dental malocclusion i.e skeletal class 2/3


Dental/Orthodontics consideration

Dental class 2/3s are not chosen for bimax candidates because they are correctable by orthodontics alone, bimax is needed when its a severe SKELETAL problem.

IMPORTANT NOTE PLEASE READ
1.
As I stated earlier, if you have a mandibular retrusion it is an indicator for qualification but it does NOT mean you will be qualified. Minor jaw retrusions can be fixed orthodontically even if skeletal and bimax is usually reserved for severe skeletal malo that cause functional issues, cannot be corrected with ortho alone and result in significant facial imbalances
2.
Single vs double jaw BSSO considerations; some patients with only a mandibular retrusion obviously do not require BIMAX and they just need advancement if the maxilla is positioned well and vice versa. Bimax is chosen when both jaws, maxilla and mandible contribute greatly to the skeletal issue.


(Important side note)

the amount of advancement is needed to be safe and stable post-op
Excessive movement of one jaw can be unstable and risk other complications
some cases require movement of both jaws moderately rather than one jaw excessively.
What we deduce from this is surgeons consider facial measurements, airways, TMJ health and how much movement will be done.



Next steps, Conclusion, TLDR
Next steps;
Consult a maxillofacial surgeon/ortho for dental/skeletal evaluation
Get imaging done like a 3d scan or cephalometric (2d side xray diagonstic)
Monitor growth if youre u18 as they only consider if growth is near end


TLDR/CONCLUSION:
In conclusion, eligibility for persons under 18 is rare, people that qualify are people with severe skeletal problems, that cannot be alone corrected with orthodontics, that cause functional issues and that have facial/skeletal imbalance. Understand single/double jaw surgery, evaluate the extent of
movement and please be safe and I love yall


tags; @bossman @yussimania @Whiteboard7 @rraymond @Scandicel

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@Sadist yeah i lowk stole yo whole flow icl mb
 
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dont forget insured bimax isnt as ideal as getting it externally
 
investing, BOTB material :LIKE:
well done bhai
 
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I guess consult with a doctor
 
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How to know if YOU qualify for insured BIMAX!
thread created by @idont


This is a not fully a guide, rather a point in the right direction
to give you an idea of what chosen candidates usually have


THREAD OST;






Table of Contents

1.
Introduction
2.
Skeletal Indicators for qualification
3.
Conclusions and next steps for the future (TLDR INCLUDED)



1.
I
ntroduction


This guide is for youngcels looking to see if they can possibly qualify for an insured bimax as it isn't the cheapest treatment. After reading you can have a better idea whether you're able to qualify or not. (DO NOT TAKE THIS AS SCRIPTURE)



Almost every user knows what this is but I might aswell give a brief description just to make the thread more well rounded. Bimax or better known as double jaw surgery is a procedure where they correct jaw misalignment by repositioning the upper and lower jaw (mandible x maxilla) It addresses functional issues and maloclusion which is also extremely beneficial for aesthetics in most cases. (you were never meant to be a recessed pajeet :forcedsmile:)


(Please note that bimax U18 is not that common but I always see people asking if they would qualify blah blah blah so I thought why not make an informational thread for all.)

a reference showing that orthognathic surgery isnt really done until atleast 18 in men and atleast 16 in women (for the youngbucks that want it)

Minimum age for orthognathics according to the institute of maxillofacial surgery


2.
I
ndicators for qualification of surgery


Skeletal indications mainly consist of
1. Mandibular retrusion
2. Maxillary retrusion
3. Bimaxillary retrusion
4. Severe dental malocclusion i.e skeletal class 2/3


Dental/Orthodontics consideration

Dental class 2/3s are not chosen for bimax candidates because they are correctable by orthodontics alone, bimax is needed when its a severe SKELETAL problem.

IMPORTANT NOTE PLEASE READ
1.
As I stated earlier, if you have a mandibular retrusion it is an indicator for qualification but it does NOT mean you will be qualified. Minor jaw retrusions can be fixed orthodontically even if skeletal and bimax is usually reserved for severe skeletal malo that cause functional issues, cannot be corrected with ortho alone and result in significant facial imbalances
2.
Single vs double jaw BSSO considerations; some patients with only a mandibular retrusion obviously do not require BIMAX and they just need advancement if the maxilla is positioned well and vice versa. Bimax is chosen when both jaws, maxilla and mandible contribute greatly to the skeletal issue.


(Important side note)

the amount of advancement is needed to be safe and stable post-op
Excessive movement of one jaw can be unstable and risk other complications
some cases require movement of both jaws moderately rather than one jaw excessively.
What we deduce from this is surgeons consider facial measurements, airways, TMJ health and how much movement will be done.



Next steps, Conclusion, TLDR
Next steps;
Consult a maxillofacial surgeon/ortho for dental/skeletal evaluation
Get imaging done like a 3d scan or cephalometric (2d side xray diagonstic)
Monitor growth if youre u18 as they only consider if growth is near end


TLDR/CONCLUSION:
In conclusion, eligibility for persons under 18 is rare, people that qualify are people with severe skeletal problems, that cannot be alone corrected with orthodontics, that cause functional issues and that have facial/skeletal imbalance. Understand single/double jaw surgery, evaluate the extent of
movement and please be safe and I love yall


tags; @bossman @yussimania @Whiteboard7 @rraymond @Scandicel

Thanks brah. Idk if I should get one have u seen my face. Mirin thread song too
 
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Only think ascend is lefort 3 or like trimax
 
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Only think ascend is lefort 3 or like trimax
yeah its def water tbf but it was fun to make and informative for uneducated folk

bimax is pretty subpar for ascension but if you get it done externally outside of a insured place it wont be half bad
 
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Only think ascend is lefort 3 or like trimax
also theres other unmentioned "nicher" factors that will probs be mentioned by yussi or bossman

i was to lazy to make another subsection myself
 

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How to know if YOU qualify for insured BIMAX!
thread created by @idont


This is a not fully a guide, rather a point in the right direction
to give you an idea of what chosen candidates usually have


THREAD OST;






Table of Contents

1.
Introduction
2.
Skeletal Indicators for qualification
3.
Conclusions and next steps for the future (TLDR INCLUDED)



1.
I
ntroduction


This guide is for youngcels looking to see if they can possibly qualify for an insured bimax as it isn't the cheapest treatment. After reading you can have a better idea whether you're able to qualify or not. (DO NOT TAKE THIS AS SCRIPTURE)



Almost every user knows what this is but I might aswell give a brief description just to make the thread more well rounded. Bimax or better known as double jaw surgery is a procedure where they correct jaw misalignment by repositioning the upper and lower jaw (mandible x maxilla) It addresses functional issues and maloclusion which is also extremely beneficial for aesthetics in most cases. (you were never meant to be a recessed pajeet :forcedsmile:)


(Please note that bimax U18 is not that common but I always see people asking if they would qualify blah blah blah so I thought why not make an informational thread for all.)

a reference showing that orthognathic surgery isnt really done until atleast 18 in men and atleast 16 in women (for the youngbucks that want it)

Minimum age for orthognathics according to the institute of maxillofacial surgery


2.
I
ndicators for qualification of surgery


Skeletal indications mainly consist of
1. Mandibular retrusion
2. Maxillary retrusion
3. Bimaxillary retrusion
4. Severe dental malocclusion i.e skeletal class 2/3


Dental/Orthodontics consideration

Dental class 2/3s are not chosen for bimax candidates because they are correctable by orthodontics alone, bimax is needed when its a severe SKELETAL problem.

IMPORTANT NOTE PLEASE READ
1.
As I stated earlier, if you have a mandibular retrusion it is an indicator for qualification but it does NOT mean you will be qualified. Minor jaw retrusions can be fixed orthodontically even if skeletal and bimax is usually reserved for severe skeletal malo that cause functional issues, cannot be corrected with ortho alone and result in significant facial imbalances
2.
Single vs double jaw BSSO considerations; some patients with only a mandibular retrusion obviously do not require BIMAX and they just need advancement if the maxilla is positioned well and vice versa. Bimax is chosen when both jaws, maxilla and mandible contribute greatly to the skeletal issue.


(Important side note)

the amount of advancement is needed to be safe and stable post-op
Excessive movement of one jaw can be unstable and risk other complications
some cases require movement of both jaws moderately rather than one jaw excessively.
What we deduce from this is surgeons consider facial measurements, airways, TMJ health and how much movement will be done.



Next steps, Conclusion, TLDR
Next steps;
Consult a maxillofacial surgeon/ortho for dental/skeletal evaluation
Get imaging done like a 3d scan or cephalometric (2d side xray diagonstic)
Monitor growth if youre u18 as they only consider if growth is near end


TLDR/CONCLUSION:
In conclusion, eligibility for persons under 18 is rare, people that qualify are people with severe skeletal problems, that cannot be alone corrected with orthodontics, that cause functional issues and that have facial/skeletal imbalance. Understand single/double jaw surgery, evaluate the extent of
movement and please be safe and I love yall


tags; @bossman @yussimania @Whiteboard7 @rraymond @Scandicel

there are less common factors that may choose a candidate for bimax but i didnt see the need to mention them tbh (i was too lazy) DYOR and consult
 

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How to know if YOU qualify for insured BIMAX!
thread created by @idont


This is a not fully a guide, rather a point in the right direction
to give you an idea of what chosen candidates usually have


THREAD OST;






Table of Contents

1.
Introduction
2.
Skeletal Indicators for qualification
3.
Conclusions and next steps for the future (TLDR INCLUDED)



1.
I
ntroduction


This guide is for youngcels looking to see if they can possibly qualify for an insured bimax as it isn't the cheapest treatment. After reading you can have a better idea whether you're able to qualify or not. (DO NOT TAKE THIS AS SCRIPTURE)



Almost every user knows what this is but I might aswell give a brief description just to make the thread more well rounded. Bimax or better known as double jaw surgery is a procedure where they correct jaw misalignment by repositioning the upper and lower jaw (mandible x maxilla) It addresses functional issues and maloclusion which is also extremely beneficial for aesthetics in most cases. (you were never meant to be a recessed pajeet :forcedsmile:)


(Please note that bimax U18 is not that common but I always see people asking if they would qualify blah blah blah so I thought why not make an informational thread for all.)

a reference showing that orthognathic surgery isnt really done until atleast 18 in men and atleast 16 in women (for the youngbucks that want it)

Minimum age for orthognathics according to the institute of maxillofacial surgery


2.
I
ndicators for qualification of surgery


Skeletal indications mainly consist of
1. Mandibular retrusion
2. Maxillary retrusion
3. Bimaxillary retrusion
4. Severe dental malocclusion i.e skeletal class 2/3


Dental/Orthodontics consideration

Dental class 2/3s are not chosen for bimax candidates because they are correctable by orthodontics alone, bimax is needed when its a severe SKELETAL problem.

IMPORTANT NOTE PLEASE READ
1.
As I stated earlier, if you have a mandibular retrusion it is an indicator for qualification but it does NOT mean you will be qualified. Minor jaw retrusions can be fixed orthodontically even if skeletal and bimax is usually reserved for severe skeletal malo that cause functional issues, cannot be corrected with ortho alone and result in significant facial imbalances
2.
Single vs double jaw BSSO considerations; some patients with only a mandibular retrusion obviously do not require BIMAX and they just need advancement if the maxilla is positioned well and vice versa. Bimax is chosen when both jaws, maxilla and mandible contribute greatly to the skeletal issue.


(Important side note)

the amount of advancement is needed to be safe and stable post-op
Excessive movement of one jaw can be unstable and risk other complications
some cases require movement of both jaws moderately rather than one jaw excessively.
What we deduce from this is surgeons consider facial measurements, airways, TMJ health and how much movement will be done.



Next steps, Conclusion, TLDR
Next steps;
Consult a maxillofacial surgeon/ortho for dental/skeletal evaluation
Get imaging done like a 3d scan or cephalometric (2d side xray diagonstic)
Monitor growth if youre u18 as they only consider if growth is near end


TLDR/CONCLUSION:
In conclusion, eligibility for persons under 18 is rare, people that qualify are people with severe skeletal problems, that cannot be alone corrected with orthodontics, that cause functional issues and that have facial/skeletal imbalance. Understand single/double jaw surgery, evaluate the extent of
movement and please be safe and I love yall


tags; @bossman @yussimania @Whiteboard7 @rraymond @Scandicel

mirin colour
 
Looks identical to @Sadist’s formatting
 
NHS published the guidelines, I think for overjets you need 6+ mm and of course if you’re Div 2 like me with naturally compensated teeth you’re excluded and fucked.

Easy to find on Google. You can do a NHS bimax if your case is obviously really easy (no rotations, no asymmetries, no “big” advancements, ideally single jaw)… would not trust them with anything complex aesthetically as they will just ignore it.
 
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NHS published the guidelines, I think for overjets you need 6+ mm and of course if you’re Div 2 like me with naturally compensated teeth you’re excluded and fucked.

Easy to find on Google. You can do a NHS bimax if your case is obviously really easy (no rotations, no asymmetries, no “big” advancements, ideally single jaw)… would not trust them with anything complex aesthetically as they will just ignore it.
can u link it im too lazy lol
 

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