Do you think I can benefit from bimax?

[hardmaxxing1234]

I've been watching some good results from Alfaro recently, however most of these cases starting point are worse than mine imo, like really fucked up faces with severe malocclusion or non existent chins.
My face is quite asymmetrical as you can see from my side profiles and I also suffer from sleep apnea which would also be good reason for surgery.

But don´t know if it would do much in terms of recession since my chin seems in line with the rest of my face. However I think my full face is recessed.

Also i just finished with Invisalign treatment one year ago and it would be a pity to get braces again.

What do you think? Are there any other procedures you think i could benefit from? (I have scheduled bucat fat pat removal for tomorrow, will be posting photos of my results)

 

[lurking truecel]

Low iq oldcel unc

 

[hardmaxxing1234]

Low iq oldcel unc

Could you develop?

 

[lurking truecel]

Could you develop?

Fatcel, oldcel, not reccesedcel.

Lose weight and save the money for a future facelift.

Also if you have sleep apnea its not for the jaws

 

[hardmaxxing1234]

Fatcel, oldcel, not reccesedcel.

Lose weight and save the money for a future facelift.

Also if you have sleep apnea its not for the jaws

I think im quite low body fat % atm. Its just my face is fat even when my body is lean this is why im getting bucal fat pad removal. I have a bad frame too so if I loose too much weight it makes it worse.

Im 28 btw.

 

[Diyorldar]

Yeah you could benefit unc

 

[lurking truecel]

I think im quite low body fat % atm. Its just my face is fat even when my body is lean this is why im getting bucal fat pad removal. I have a bad frame too so if I loose too much weight it makes it worse.

Im 28 btw.

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I Mean you still dont need bimax

 

[Jgns]

UR 28?????? WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUCK? I gt find adrenochrome in the future fs

 

[Jgns]

@vermicel looks half ur age gdamn

 

[Animepilled]

brutal 28

 

[hardmaxxing1234]

UR 28?????? WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUCK? I gt find adrenochrome in the future fs

What do you think makes me look so old besides the white hair? I`ve been told about it several times but can´t really figure out what the reasons are
I already take tretinoin for skin health

 

[hardmaxxing1234]

brutal 28

I copy the same answer to the other guy:

What do you think makes me look so old besides the white hair? I`ve been told about it several times but can´t really figure out what the reasons are
I already take tretinoin for skin health

 

[Kyriae]

You need a neck lift not a bimax. I'm getting something similar to that this year and I think it contributes a lot to older appearance. I'm 4 years older than you btw.

 

[WannabeClavicular]

I've been watching some good results from Alfaro recently, however most of these cases starting point are worse than mine imo, like really fucked up faces with severe malocclusion or non existent chins.
My face is quite asymmetrical as you can see from my side profiles and I also suffer from sleep apnea which would also be good reason for surgery.

But don´t know if it would do much in terms of recession since my chin seems in line with the rest of my face. However I think my full face is recessed.

Also i just finished with Invisalign treatment one year ago and it would be a pity to get braces again.

What do you think? Are there any other procedures you think i could benefit from? (I have scheduled bucat fat pat removal for tomorrow, will be posting photos of my results)

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Yes

 

[vermicel]

What do you think makes me look so old besides the white hair? I`ve been told about it several times but can´t really figure out what the reasons are

Based on these side profile pics, the main reason why you look older than your actual age is just excessive fat deposits in the lower third of your face. Your nasolabial area looks heavy, as if it's being pulled downwards and sagging. Combine this with the loose submental and it ages you dramatically.
I don't think your hair plays a significant role here ; white hair doesn't stand out in these pics. And your hairline, albeit mature (NW2-ish), still holds up just fine.
Other problems might be a downturned commissure, long philtrum, and long mentolabial fold. All contribute to the visual impression of your lower face being pulled downwards.
Finally, as a typical Spaniard, you might have exposed your skin a bit too much to the sun, which can result in premature ageing.

You have a great physique. I wasn't expecting that. You could crack @lurking truecel 's 25yo punk ass skull like a walnut if you squeezed it between your forearm and biceps
It's unfortunate though that your gymcel brain can't tolerate the idea of trading some frame/muscle mass for a leaner face.
So, instead, you'll have to rely almost exclusively on surgical means.

Although your lower third isn't technically recessed, even if we assume that a bimax would be overkill and unjustifiable (no chewing or breathing problems), you could still benefit from a sliding genioplasty.
If you combine a sliding genio with a submentoplasty/chin lipo/neck lift (best option to be determined by a surgeon during an in-person consultation), you would probably fix the loose submental.
Fixing the nasolabial area might involve a combination of treatments, from lasers, to pdo threads and microneedling. Midface lift should be seen as a last resort.
Fixing the mouth area might require liposuction of the jowls and a corner lip lift (if your corners are downturned).
Fixing the philtrum length will require a lip lift.
And if the genioplasty doesn't correct your mentolabial fold, then you could fill it with a fat graft or fillers.
Obviously, some of my recommendations could be off the mark, either due to my lack of knowledge, or simply because a picture doesn't allow a 100 % secure assessment. You should do a round of consultations with plastic & maxillofacial surgeons if you want to receive proper diagnosis.

Morph illustrating roughly the suggestions above :

 

[lurking truecel]

Based on these side profile pics, the main reason why you look older than your actual age is just excessive fat deposits in the lower third of your face. Your nasolabial area looks heavy, as if it's being pulled downwards and sagging. Combine this with the loose submental and it ages you dramatically.
I don't think your hair plays a significant role here ; white hair doesn't stand out in these pics. And your hairline, albeit mature (NW2-ish), still holds up just fine.
Other problems might be a downturned commissure, long philtrum, and long mentolabial fold. All contribute to the visual impression of your lower face being pulled downwards.
Finally, as a typical Spaniard, you might have exposed your skin a bit too much to the sun, which can result in premature ageing.

You have a great physique. I wasn't expecting that. You could crack @lurking truecel 's 25yo punk ass skull like a walnut if you squeezed it between your forearm and biceps
It's unfortunate though that your gymcel brain can't tolerate the idea of trading some frame/muscle mass for a leaner face.
So, instead, you'll have to rely almost exclusively on surgical means.

Although your lower third isn't technically recessed, even if we assume that a bimax would be overkill and unjustifiable (no chewing or breathing problems), you could still benefit from a sliding genioplasty.
If you combine a sliding genio with a submentoplasty/chin lipo/neck lift (best option to be determined by a surgeon during an in-person consultation), you would probably fix the loose submental.
Fixing the nasolabial area might involve a combination of treatments, from lasers, to pdo threads and microneedling. Midface lift should be seen as a last resort.
Fixing the mouth area might require liposuction of the jowls and a corner lip lift (if your corners are downturned).
Fixing the philtrum length will require a lip lift.
And if the genioplasty doesn't correct your mentolabial fold, then you could fill it with a fat graft or fillers.
Obviously, some of my recommendations could be off the mark, either due to my lack of knowledge, or simply because a picture doesn't allow a 100 % secure assessment. You should do a round of consultations with plastic & maxillofacial surgeons if you want to receive proper diagnosis.

Morph illustrating roughly the suggestions above :
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what is this attack

 

[ascension to heaven]

what is this attack

why is my bro catching strays

 

[vermicel]

what is this attack

You called the guy right off the bat a "low iq fatcel oldcel", and he turned out to be a behemoth around your age (i.e. still young), so I just joked about how he could punish your cheeky self if you actually spoke to him like that in person. It was not meant to be that serious.

 

[chris182]

You called the guy right off the bat a "low iq fatcel oldcel", and he turned out to be a behemoth around your age (i.e. still young), so I just joked about how he could punish your cheeky self if you actually spoke to him like that in person. It was not meant to be that serious.

hey can you check my message in convo? I replied

 

[tyler1234]

I Mean you still dont need bimax

Yeh he does

 

[nishka]

Are you on steroids that could explain why old

 

[hardmaxxing1234]

Based on these side profile pics, the main reason why you look older than your actual age is just excessive fat deposits in the lower third of your face. Your nasolabial area looks heavy, as if it's being pulled downwards and sagging. Combine this with the loose submental and it ages you dramatically.
I don't think your hair plays a significant role here ; white hair doesn't stand out in these pics. And your hairline, albeit mature (NW2-ish), still holds up just fine.
Other problems might be a downturned commissure, long philtrum, and long mentolabial fold. All contribute to the visual impression of your lower face being pulled downwards.
Finally, as a typical Spaniard, you might have exposed your skin a bit too much to the sun, which can result in premature ageing.

You have a great physique. I wasn't expecting that. You could crack @lurking truecel 's 25yo punk ass skull like a walnut if you squeezed it between your forearm and biceps
It's unfortunate though that your gymcel brain can't tolerate the idea of trading some frame/muscle mass for a leaner face.
So, instead, you'll have to rely almost exclusively on surgical means.

Although your lower third isn't technically recessed, even if we assume that a bimax would be overkill and unjustifiable (no chewing or breathing problems), you could still benefit from a sliding genioplasty.
If you combine a sliding genio with a submentoplasty/chin lipo/neck lift (best option to be determined by a surgeon during an in-person consultation), you would probably fix the loose submental.
Fixing the nasolabial area might involve a combination of treatments, from lasers, to pdo threads and microneedling. Midface lift should be seen as a last resort.
Fixing the mouth area might require liposuction of the jowls and a corner lip lift (if your corners are downturned).
Fixing the philtrum length will require a lip lift.
And if the genioplasty doesn't correct your mentolabial fold, then you could fill it with a fat graft or fillers.
Obviously, some of my recommendations could be off the mark, either due to my lack of knowledge, or simply because a picture doesn't allow a 100 % secure assessment. You should do a round of consultations with plastic & maxillofacial surgeons if you want to receive proper diagnosis.

Morph illustrating roughly the suggestions above :
View attachment 4891789

Thank you very much man, really appreciate your kind response. I will take into consideration your words and look into the improvements you have suggested.

 

[hardmaxxing1234]

Are you on steroids that could explain why old

No,
I actually have always looked older than my age, I think mainly due to practicing heavy road cycling which is a highly oxidative sport (5, 6 hour rides frequently) plus the sun exposure from so many ours in the sun.

Would not recommend road cycling to anyone interested in looksmaxxing btw.

 

[nishka]

No,
I actually have always looked older than my age, I think mainly due to practicing heavy road cycling which is a highly oxidative sport (5, 6 hour rides frequently) plus the sun exposure from so many ours in the sun.

Would not recommend road cycling to anyone interested in looksmaxxing btw.

damn if not on steroids thats a great physique also i can see you store a lot of fat in your legs and face so maybe not as lean as you might think. you could try cutting another 5-10 pounds just for fun

 

[notgonnaropeyet]

yes, you definitely could

 

[vermicel]

I will take into consideration your words and look into the improvements you have suggested.

I just looked again at your picture and wondered what would happen if a moderate bimax/trimax was simulated. While altering the picture, I realized that your face was more recessed than previously assessed, and that a bimax would not be absurd after all (aesthetics-wise). It made even more sense after rotating the picture to get closer to the Frankfort Horizontal Plane.
Advancing the lower maxilla could help with the nasolabial area and could also straighten your nose.
Advancing potentially both the mandible and chin ( = trimax) would carry a greater effect on the submental, by stretching it further forward.
In the morph below, I reused the base of the previous morph (lip lift, jowl liposuction, lip corner lift ?, etc.), to which I added an anterior nasal spine graft to give the nose better support and the philtrum, better shape (post-maxillary advancement).
I think a bimax/trimax would not prevent you from needing other complementary procedures for optimal aesthetic results (e.g. lip lift, lipo).

What do you think about it @yussimania @geenk worg @zemult ? Could a double jaw surgery actually be justified ?

Interestingly, if the morph manages to depict a fairly realistic result, then your side profile would end up looking noticeably younger, close to your actual age.
Needless to say this is purely speculative.
I encourage you to do further research on Spanish maxillofacial surgeons, besides Alfaro. Right below, you'll find a few references in another user's post about facial implants. If you haven't done it already, you will probably find dedicated Facebook groups if you type "cirugía maxilofacial" in FB's search engine ; for example : https://www.facebook.com/groups/102947785282

Good luck with your buccal fat removal. Definitely keep us updated with your result. It's always nice to have direct genuine testimonies.

 

[yussimania]

I just looked again at your picture and wondered what would happen if a moderate bimax/trimax was simulated. While altering the picture, I realized that your face was more recessed than previously assessed, and that a bimax would not be absurd after all (aesthetics-wise). It made even more sense after rotating the picture to get closer to the Frankfort Horizontal Plane.
Advancing the lower maxilla could help with the nasolabial area and could also straighten your nose.
Advancing potentially both the mandible and chin ( = trimax) would carry a greater effect on the submental, by stretching it further forward.
In the morph below, I reused the base of the previous morph (lip lift, jowl liposuction, lip corner lift ?, etc.), to which I added an anterior nasal spine graft to give the nose better support and the philtrum, better shape (post-maxillary advancement).
I think a bimax/trimax would not prevent you from needing other complementary procedures for optimal aesthetic results (e.g. lip lift, lipo).

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What do you think about it @yussimania @geenk worg @zemult ? Could a double jaw surgery actually be justified ?

Interestingly, if the morph manages to depict a fairly realistic result, then your side profile would end up looking noticeably younger, close to your actual age.
Needless to say this is purely speculative.
I encourage you to do further research on Spanish maxillofacial surgeons, besides Alfaro. Right below, you'll find a few references in another user's post about facial implants. If you haven't done it already, you will probably find dedicated Facebook groups if you type "cirugía maxilofacial" in FB's search engine ; for example : https://www.facebook.com/groups/102947785282

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Good luck with your buccal fat removal. Definitely keep us updated with your result. It's always nice to have direct genuine testimonies.

Yeah for sure

He has that UARS look to him

 

[Jgns]

What do you think makes me look so old besides the white hair? I`ve been told about it several times but can´t really figure out what the reasons are
I already take tretinoin for skin health

pretty late response but vermicel got it down he knows more stuff than me, other than what you said definetly work on your hair health, ur hair is pretty good for ur age it just doesnt look very healthy, and healthy looking hair is a huge youth marker