Do you think that we’re the only intelligent life forms in the universe?

[Snicket]

As far as we know, life has never originated outside of the planet earth

View attachment 3643955

We have recently found reason to believe that there may be life under the ground of Mars, but most likely it isn’t complex life at all, probably just a singular cell. That is, if it even exists.

Could Life Exist Deep Underground on Mars? | Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian

Cambridge, MA - Recent science missions and results are bringing the search for life closer to home, and scientists at the Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian (CfA) and the Florida Institute of Technology (FIT) may have figured out how to determine whether life is—or was—lurking deep...

www.cfa.harvard.edu

I think within the near future we will discover life on mars and it will be the most simple form of life possible, but still life.

Even though the universe is so vast that I have an incredibly hard time describing it to you in words, I think the cold truth may be that we’re the only intelligent life in the universe

View attachment 3643957

With the number of planets that exist, it seems that it should be impossible for earth to be the only place with intelligent life

But when you scale down the number of planets that have the necessary living conditions for life to exist as we know it, it’s way way less. Not to say that it’s a small number, but small compared to the total number of planets

Spoiler: “Habitable” planets

How many planets in our universe could support life?

We don't know the answer to how many civilizations might exist in the universe. But we do know the factors that allow life on Earth. Are there other planets that fit the bill? Oh yes indeed.

science.howstuffworks.com

My Final Thoughts

Theoretically, if there was other intelligent life in the universe, it’s not any more intelligent than us. If it was more advanced, it would have discovered us by now.
But then again, maybe it has already discovered us and we don’t know. So who really knows?

tags:
@loyolaxavvierretard
@goyimslayer
@Mess
@Surfsup
@2025cel

If the universe is infinite or near infinite, doesn't that make intelligent extraterrestrial life a certainty?

 

[The Homelander]

Define intelligence
And that doesn't mean we're the "only intelligent life forms". Where is the cutoff? It's a spectrum

My bad, I meant that humans are the most intelligent species, excluding you, since you can’t even fathom that

 

[The Homelander]

If the universe is infinite or near infinite, doesn't that make intelligent extraterrestrial life a certainty?

Nothing is certain.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

My bad, I meant that humans are the most intelligent species, excluding you, since you can’t even fathom that

That's not what you wrote in the OP

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

How do you know they don't?

Do they communicate the way we do ? Do they have languages ? Can they write ? If not can they hold complex information for long in their memory ? Biological studies say no

 

[Snicket]

Nothing is certain.

Well near a certainty anyway.
Perhaps the distances are so vast that it's not technologically possible for even a highly advanced, space faring civilisations to reach us.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Do they communicate the way we do ? Do they have languages ? Can they write ? If not can they hold complex information for long in their memory ? Biological studies say no

Whales communicate a lot
Other animals too
The problem is our idea of "intelligence" is a human idea based on what we are capable of
In reality, true intelligence is likely survival skills

 

[The Homelander]

Well near a certainty anyway.
Perhaps the distances are so vast that it's not technologically possible for even a highly advanced, space faring civilisations to reach us.

Nah

 

[The Homelander]

Whales communicate a lot
Other animals too
The problem is our idea of "intelligence" is a human idea based on what we are capable of
In reality, true intelligence is likely survival skills

Hmm, No.

 

[Snicket]

Nah

I'd be surprised if there isn't any intelligent life out there considering the sheer enormity of the universe.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Hmm, No.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Whales communicate a lot
Other animals too
The problem is our idea of "intelligence" is a human idea based on what we are capable of
In reality, true intelligence is likely survival skills

Whales communicate but they communicate rudimentary information. Have they ever communicated a self analysis of their anatomy? Unlikely. Doing that would require extreme memory retention and processing skills which whales dont have as compared to humans

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Whales communicate but they communicate rudimentary information. Have they ever communicated a self analysis of their anatomy? Unlikely. Doing that would require extreme memory retention and processing skills which whales dont have as compared to humans

Another example is turtles who manage to return to the exact same location they were born to lay their eggs, despite travelling around the ocean. No maps or guidance

Could humans do this if you set someone out on a boat with no directions and had them travel the seas and ask them to return to the same beach? Is that not intelligence?

Many more cases

We define intelligence by our human standards

 

[The Homelander]

Another example is turtles who manage to return to the exact same location they were born to lay their eggs, despite travelling around the ocean. No maps or guidance

Could humans do this if you set someone out on a boat with no directions and had them travel the seas and ask them to return to the same beach? Is that not intelligence?

Many more cases

We define intelligence by our human standards

That’s not true at all.

 

[neverlookback]

No space and the earth is flat and we're in the middle and people have been psyoped by marvel movies to be in aliens and shit to prepare people for project bluebeambso they can make a new world order

 

[The Homelander]

No space the earth is flat and we're in the middle and people have been psyoped by marvel movies to be in aliens and shit to prepare people for project bluebeambso they can make a new world order

Interesting, tell me more.

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Another example is turtles who manage to return to the exact same location they were born to lay their eggs, despite travelling around the ocean. No maps or guidance

Could humans do this if you set someone out on a boat with no directions and had them travel the seas and ask them to return to the same beach? Is that not intelligence?

Many more cases

We define intelligence by our human standards

Can turtles create nukes ? Your examples dont work since humans are more proficient at way more tasks than other animals are. The few cherry picked tasks dont prove anything.

 

[neverlookback]

Interesting, tell me more.

Im too low iq for explaining I think that's all I know tbh

 

[optimisticzoomer]

That’s not true at all.

How is that not true?

 

[Magnus Ironblood]

Either way, it's extremely unsettling.

We're unique and alone...

Or aliens and other intelligent life forms exist.

Both scenarios are a pretty scary.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Can turtles create nukes ? Your examples dont work since humans are more proficient at way more tasks than other animals are. The few cherry picked tasks dont prove anything.

You're literally just proving my point about your human centred ideas of intelligence

Humans are better at being humans! Groundbreaking info

 

[NoaA99]

Also, just to show how bad IQ is at predicting full scale intelligence between species:

Gorillas can have an IQ of 95, which is only 5 points off from the average human IQ of 100

Where did you come across that?

IQ tests are specifically designed for humans, relying on language, logic, and specific cultural context.
If researchers attempt to assess intelligence in other species, they must use entirely different methods, I would assume.

 

[The Homelander]

You're literally just proving my point about your human centred ideas of intelligence

Humans are better at being humans! Groundbreaking info

I’m afraid that you’re completely wrong on this one, sorry.

 

[The Homelander]

Where did you come across that?

IQ tests are specifically designed for humans, relying on language, logic, and specific cultural context.
If researchers attempt to assess intelligence in other species, they must use entirely different methods, I would assume.

Read what I said again

 

[The Homelander]

Either way, it's extremely unsettling.

We're unique and alone...

Or aliens and other intelligent life forms exist.

Both scenarios are a pretty scary.

True

 

[optimisticzoomer]

I’m afraid that you’re completely wrong on this one, sorry.

That works well for you to say when you disagree

 

[HimmyButlerV2]

Dogs or any other animal could could count as intelligent imo. Seeing something similar toa dog on another planet would be very impressive and enlightening. But maybe you mean aliens as smart or smarter than humans, I am not sure.

I don't have anything insightful to say about this.
Like other people mentioned, by sheer probability they do. There are a fuck ton of star systems in our galaxy and even more galaxies in the universe.
Maybe life is such an impossibility that the earth was a lucky set of circumstances to create it, idk. I have done research on space travel since I used to be very interested in it. But basically, the vast majority of planets that people call inhabitable are really not. What they do is just focus on them being in the habitable zone in relation to the star, and not being too large compared to earth. However, most we have discovered like this have some sort of other issue that would make life difficult.

Keep in mind that a lot of these planets are so far away that it would take years to simply communicate. Decades, and in some cases even more. The furthest individual planet we have seen is 17,000 light years away. In other words, even when we see the planet, we see how it was 17,000 years ago. So if someone from that range somehow imaged earth in a detailed manner right now, they would not see any civilization we have built. If we see a race that built something before we did, then it may not be there when we arrive. How would we look in 20,000 years?

I'm not an expert on biology by any means, but there is a chance that life exists, even intelligent life, but it is so far out of the confines of how we think life works that it can survive on a planet we would call uninhabitable. And maybe they would even view ours as similarly dangerous.

Or maybe there exists a species that is remarkably similar to us, but lives so far away that we will probably never see them or even know they exist.

 

[The Homelander]

Dogs or any other animal could could count as intelligent imo. Seeing something similar toa dog on another planet would be very impressive and enlightening. But maybe you mean aliens as smart or smarter than humans, I am not sure.

I don't have anything insightful to say about this.
Like other people mentioned, by sheer probability they do. There are a fuck ton of star systems in our galaxy and even more galaxies in the universe.
Maybe life is such an impossibility that the earth was a lucky set of circumstances to create it, idk. I have done research on space travel since I used to be very interested in it. But basically, the vast majority of planets that people call inhabitable are really not. What they do is just focus on them being in the habitable zone in relation to the star, and not being too large compared to earth. However, most we have discovered like this have some sort of other issue that would make life difficult.

Keep in mind that a lot of these planets are so far away that it would take years to simply communicate. Decades, and in some cases even more. The furthest individual planet we have seen is 17,000 light years away. In other words, even when we see the planet, we see how it was 17,000 years ago. So if someone from that range somehow imaged earth in a detailed manner right now, they would not see any civilization we have built. If we see a race that built something before we did, then it may not be there when we arrive. How would we look in 20,000 years?

I'm not an expert on biology by any means, but there is a chance that life exists, even intelligent life, but it is so far out of the confines of how we think life works that it can survive on a planet we would call uninhabitable. And maybe they would even view ours as similarly dangerous.

Or maybe there exists a species that is remarkably similar to us, but lives so far away that we will probably never see them or even know they exist.

You can’t expect me to read all that

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

You're literally just proving my point about your human centred ideas of intelligence

Humans are better at being humans! Groundbreaking info

No reason to argue like this. This is like trying to tell someone the Moon Landing was not fake. According to you whatever makes humans better than other animals is just humans being better than humans.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

No reason to argue like this. This is like trying to tell someone the Moon Landing was not fake. According to you whatever makes humans better than other animals is just humans being better than humans.

You probably think IQ tests mean anything
Anyway, who cares? Time to chill

 

[The Homelander]

You probably think IQ tests mean anything
Anyway, who cares? Time to chill

Running away from the facts. Classic sign of admitting defeat.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

Running away from the facts. Classic sign of admitting defeat.

Are you broken? Literally nothing changed since my last comment
What am I meant to do? Go round in circles? Ironically, I'm intelligent enough to not needlessly continue arguments, unlike you it seems

 

[JohnBaza]

As far as we know, life has never originated outside of the planet earth

View attachment 3643955

We have recently found reason to believe that there may be life under the ground of Mars, but most likely it isn’t complex life at all, probably just a singular cell. That is, if it even exists.

Could Life Exist Deep Underground on Mars? | Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian

Cambridge, MA - Recent science missions and results are bringing the search for life closer to home, and scientists at the Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian (CfA) and the Florida Institute of Technology (FIT) may have figured out how to determine whether life is—or was—lurking deep...

www.cfa.harvard.edu

I think within the near future we will discover life on mars and it will be the most simple form of life possible, but still life.

Even though the universe is so vast that I have an incredibly hard time describing it to you in words, I think the cold truth may be that we’re the only intelligent life in the universe

View attachment 3643957

With the number of planets that exist, it seems that it should be impossible for earth to be the only place with intelligent life

But when you scale down the number of planets that have the necessary living conditions for life to exist as we know it, it’s way way less. Not to say that it’s a small number, but small compared to the total number of planets

Spoiler: “Habitable” planets

How many planets in our universe could support life?

We don't know the answer to how many civilizations might exist in the universe. But we do know the factors that allow life on Earth. Are there other planets that fit the bill? Oh yes indeed.

science.howstuffworks.com

My Final Thoughts

Theoretically, if there was other intelligent life in the universe, it’s not any more intelligent than us. If it was more advanced, it would have discovered us by now.
But then again, maybe it has already discovered us and we don’t know. So who really knows?

tags:
@loyolaxavvierretard
@goyimslayer
@Mess
@Surfsup
@2025cel

nigga what happened to tagging me

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

Are you broken? Literally nothing changed since my last comment
What am I meant to do? Go round in circles? Ironically, I'm intelligent enough to not needlessly continue arguments, unlike you it seems

No sir you are meant to chill.

 

[optimisticzoomer]

No sir you are meant to chill.

You are my friend

 

[JohnBaza]

As far as we know, life has never originated outside of the planet earth

View attachment 3643955

We have recently found reason to believe that there may be life under the ground of Mars, but most likely it isn’t complex life at all, probably just a singular cell. That is, if it even exists.

Could Life Exist Deep Underground on Mars? | Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian

Cambridge, MA - Recent science missions and results are bringing the search for life closer to home, and scientists at the Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian (CfA) and the Florida Institute of Technology (FIT) may have figured out how to determine whether life is—or was—lurking deep...

www.cfa.harvard.edu

I think within the near future we will discover life on mars and it will be the most simple form of life possible, but still life.

Even though the universe is so vast that I have an incredibly hard time describing it to you in words, I think the cold truth may be that we’re the only intelligent life in the universe

View attachment 3643957

With the number of planets that exist, it seems that it should be impossible for earth to be the only place with intelligent life

But when you scale down the number of planets that have the necessary living conditions for life to exist as we know it, it’s way way less. Not to say that it’s a small number, but small compared to the total number of planets

Spoiler: “Habitable” planets

How many planets in our universe could support life?

We don't know the answer to how many civilizations might exist in the universe. But we do know the factors that allow life on Earth. Are there other planets that fit the bill? Oh yes indeed.

science.howstuffworks.com

My Final Thoughts

Theoretically, if there was other intelligent life in the universe, it’s not any more intelligent than us. If it was more advanced, it would have discovered us by now.
But then again, maybe it has already discovered us and we don’t know. So who really knows?

tags:
@loyolaxavvierretard
@goyimslayer
@Mess
@Surfsup
@2025cel

It depends if carbon-based life is the only possible life there is. Lets say there is life that is supported by different elements I dont think we can use our planet as a base for lfe itself. I think there exists life (simple, not intelligent) but not near our milkyway

 

[The Homelander]

Are you broken? Literally nothing changed since my last comment
What am I meant to do? Go round in circles? Ironically, I'm intelligent enough to not needlessly continue arguments, unlike you it seems

It seems like my reply triggered you a lot. Is it because I’m right?

 

[loyolaxavvierretard]

You are my friend

I am but Roosevelt

 

[The Homelander]

nigga what happened to tagging me

@JohnBaza

 

[JohnBaza]

@JohnBaza

 

[The Homelander]

Bhai what happened to the orangutan avi

 

[2025cel]

I follow Krishna saar, no need for science. Flat earth best. No science for your bobs and vagene

 

[JohnBaza]

Bhai what happened to the orangutan avi

rate my new avi @Kaari @itzyaboyJJ

 

[The Homelander]

@Clavicular caught red handed

 

[The Homelander]

rate my new avi @Kaari @itzyaboyJJ

Wowwwwwwwwww/10

 

[NoaA99]

Read what I said again

Yeah, what exactly is your point here? Maybe my IQ is too low to understand, sarcasm or not, but from my perspective, you're suggesting that IQ or rather what it tries to measure (general intelligence), is a poor metric for assessing "full-scale" interspecies intelligence. Humans are obviously superior in that regard.
Or are you implying that we aren't, and that our entire "perception of intelligence" is flawed and biased toward human traits?
Or are you just simply trying to point out that IQ is a flawed instrument for comparing Intelligence in between species - which, should be fairly obvious?

 

[The Homelander]

Yeah, what exactly is your point here? Maybe my IQ is too low to understand, sarcasm or not, but from my perspective, you're suggesting that IQ or rather what it tries to measure (general intelligence), is a poor metric for assessing "full-scale" interspecies intelligence. Humans are obviously superior in that regard.
Or are you implying that we aren't, and that our entire "perception of intelligence" is flawed and biased toward human traits?
Or are you just simply trying to point out that IQ is a flawed instrument for comparing Intelligence in between species - which, should be fairly obvious?

Go back and read what I said first.

 

[sensitive young man]

As far as we know, life has never originated outside of the planet earth

View attachment 3643955

We have recently found reason to believe that there may be life under the ground of Mars, but most likely it isn’t complex life at all, probably just a singular cell. That is, if it even exists.

Could Life Exist Deep Underground on Mars? | Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian

Cambridge, MA - Recent science missions and results are bringing the search for life closer to home, and scientists at the Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian (CfA) and the Florida Institute of Technology (FIT) may have figured out how to determine whether life is—or was—lurking deep...

www.cfa.harvard.edu

I think within the near future we will discover life on mars and it will be the most simple form of life possible, but still life.

Even though the universe is so vast that I have an incredibly hard time describing it to you in words, I think the cold truth may be that we’re the only intelligent life in the universe

View attachment 3643957

With the number of planets that exist, it seems that it should be impossible for earth to be the only place with intelligent life

But when you scale down the number of planets that have the necessary living conditions for life to exist as we know it, it’s way way less. Not to say that it’s a small number, but small compared to the total number of planets

Spoiler: “Habitable” planets

How many planets in our universe could support life?

We don't know the answer to how many civilizations might exist in the universe. But we do know the factors that allow life on Earth. Are there other planets that fit the bill? Oh yes indeed.

science.howstuffworks.com

My Final Thoughts

Theoretically, if there was other intelligent life in the universe, it’s not any more intelligent than us. If it was more advanced, it would have discovered us by now.
But then again, maybe it has already discovered us and we don’t know. So who really knows?

tags:
@loyolaxavvierretard
@goyimslayer
@Mess
@Surfsup
@2025cel

jai hind and shit my nigga